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One Wire Phenomenon said:
Hornet666 said:
One Wire Phenomenon said:
Took me half an hour to do the fRTR and the Tetragramaton,i timed it.

Thanks for the help i appreciate it.

Yeah I usually take that long too. The quickest I was able to do it was15 minutes. Only because I turned up to work early. So I had about 30 mins before start time. I decided right I'll have a crack and see how quick I can do it. My pronunciations are spot on with the guttural parts too. So I quickly rushed through it at my quickest pace. And I try very hard to make my pronunciations sound fluent. But when I rushed through it I probably sounded more like Donald duck getting strangled trying to do it too fast...I'm a quality over quantity type guy. So I just try to do it to the best of my ability. Not the fastest

I do the fRTR with Maxine's voice. I press play and as she says it i say it,then after that i press on the screen to do the count down,then again play and say it with her,then on the screen and so it goes until im done.

Do you think its fine if i do it that way?
Im fucking fast like that and my voice resonates with hers perfectly if i do a lot of reps.

Another question if one is disturbed while doing the fRTR and is forced to talk to another person then when that person leaves can i continue doing the ritual?
And the same question for the Tetragramaton?
I did i fRTR then i got half way with the Tetragramaton when my nephew walked in and spoke to me i had no other choice but to reply him. He then left and i continued and finshed the Tetragramaton. Is this fine or do i have to start over? Please tell me someone because it happens quite often and i have been wondering about it for some time now.
 
Hornet666 said:
Yeah I usually take that long too. The quickest I was able to do it was15 minutes. Only because I turned up to work early. So I had about 30 mins before start time. I decided right I'll have a crack and see how quick I can do it. My pronunciations are spot on with the guttural parts too. So I quickly rushed through it at my quickest pace. And I try very hard to make my pronunciations sound fluent. But when I rushed through it I probably sounded more like Donald duck getting strangled trying to do it too fast...I'm a quality over quantity type guy. So I just try to do it to the best of my ability. Not the fastest
We are not created equals by any means. Things that play a role in this are among others what is a persons first language and if the person is multilingual or not, and how talented in that area overall. Better linquistic skills equate to faster rtrs, I think. That does not mean it has to be fast. As long as there is strong intent, vibrations, visualisation and the direction of energy then it's good stuff regardless if it takes 10, 20 or 30 minutes to complete.
 
One Wire Phenomenon said:
One Wire Phenomenon said:
Hornet666 said:
Yeah I usually take that long too. The quickest I was able to do it was15 minutes. Only because I turned up to work early. So I had about 30 mins before start time. I decided right I'll have a crack and see how quick I can do it. My pronunciations are spot on with the guttural parts too. So I quickly rushed through it at my quickest pace. And I try very hard to make my pronunciations sound fluent. But when I rushed through it I probably sounded more like Donald duck getting strangled trying to do it too fast...I'm a quality over quantity type guy. So I just try to do it to the best of my ability. Not the fastest

I do the fRTR with Maxine's voice. I press play and as she says it i say it,then after that i press on the screen to do the count down,then again play and say it with her,then on the screen and so it goes until im done.

Do you think its fine if i do it that way?
Im fucking fast like that and my voice resonates with hers perfectly if i do a lot of reps.

Another question if one is disturbed while doing the fRTR and is forced to talk to another person then when that person leaves can i continue doing the ritual?
And the same question for the Tetragramaton?
I did i fRTR then i got half way with the Tetragramaton when my nephew walked in and spoke to me i had no other choice but to reply him. He then left and i continued and finshed the Tetragramaton. Is this fine or do i have to start over? Please tell me someone because it happens quite often and i have been wondering about it for some time now.
Yes, you can continue from where you were. Being interrupted is not perfect, but it still works and it still counts. It is best to finish the rest of it.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
One Wire Phenomenon said:
One Wire Phenomenon said:
I do the fRTR with Maxine's voice. I press play and as she says it i say it,then after that i press on the screen to do the count down,then again play and say it with her,then on the screen and so it goes until im done.

Do you think its fine if i do it that way?
Im fucking fast like that and my voice resonates with hers perfectly if i do a lot of reps.

Another question if one is disturbed while doing the fRTR and is forced to talk to another person then when that person leaves can i continue doing the ritual?
And the same question for the Tetragramaton?
I did i fRTR then i got half way with the Tetragramaton when my nephew walked in and spoke to me i had no other choice but to reply him. He then left and i continued and finshed the Tetragramaton. Is this fine or do i have to start over? Please tell me someone because it happens quite often and i have been wondering about it for some time now.
Yes, you can continue from where you were. Being interrupted is not perfect, but it still works and it still counts. It is best to finish the rest of it.

Okay thank you very much
 
I got_abs said:
I started doing FRTR,its been 4 days. There are 22 letters to be reversed. I wanted to ask that can i break down FRTR? Like reverse 11 letters and then take a break of 1-2 hrs and reverse another 11. It takes me around 40-45 min to do the entire FRTR in one sitting. Its all good now but in future as summers are approaching i wont be able to go up on terrace where i do my FRTRs.Now in winters its easy to go up because of winters itself ofc,"i m sitting in sun abosrobing vitamin D" and all excuses but i cant give the same excuse in 40 degrees celcius. Ahhhh the thing is im only 19 i just turned 19, though i dedicated at age of 14 ish. So,i have a personal room but doing the vibrations it will ofc reach the ears of my parents. Though they know i meditate but i dont want them to hear vibrations and ask me anything about my meditations.I want to keep things as low key as possible. To them i meditate like,a person just and closes his eyes and stares into darkness of his eyelids and all the modern age meditations crap.
I do 5 sessions of meditations,that is around 3-5 hrs of meditations daily FRTRs including and 2 of the sessions i go and do them on terrace. If its an option to break up the letters in sets of 11-11 i will be able to adjust rtrs in my regular meditations session as i stay awake till 2 am meditating and it will be really easy for me to adjust FRTR in that.

Also,i m working on someone lets just say to bring someone in my life. I kept astrology in mind and start on waxing moon on cancer when it wasnt void,this year. So which way will be quicker? 1.Working on other person's aura to bring that person to me (you know putting the green aura around that person while in trance and stating the affirmation)
OR 2.Affirmating and programming my own aura to bring that person to me. Which one would work quicker? been almost a month i m doing 108 affirmation everyday to bring that person to me.

Thanks for helping me in advance.
HAIL SATAN!

First of all, about the fear of being overheard, you can very well have some music playing to confuse what sounds come out of your room. It doesn't have to be metal or something you can sing along that will probably distract you, but you can use anything instrumental from movies or videogames to help you focus AND cover the sound (you STILL want to hear yourself, don't drown out your voice).

As for the duration, it baffles me that anyone would need 40 minutes for a single FRTR unless they're doing like.. 36+ reps for each letter or more. IF you're vibrating them too long (like you vibrate a Rune) then don't. You can just speak the words (although vibration technically has more power) and it will only take maximum 10 minutes or less. When we didn't do the Tetra together with the FRTR I was able to do a full one while I drove from home to work in 10 and something minutes, just to squeeze one more in every day. But even now it doesn't take my anywhere more than say 10-15 minutes.

Something I found out in my first months experimenting with the FRTR everyday, is that the quick repetition of the letters (say 9 reps of the same word/letter in ONE breath) would STILL have a lot of impact on me. The quick repetition was almost like it was stacking up power in order for me to quickly build a good defense against the jewish curse and a great offense to rip it open the moment I was being neared by anything jewish.

Doing it vibrated, like with one long breath for each one of the 9 repetition for EACH word will more than likely tired you out quickly and there will be a lot of yawning during your FRTR... not because you're getting sleepy or bored, but because your face and jaw muscles will need to re-oxygen more often as you're using than more than if you were speaking. I find yawning to be really irritating during rituals, almost signifying I don't really believe in what I'm doing, which is definitely not the case.

Try speaking the words, like 9 in one long breath, that should be comfortable (I mean like... BREATH. Speak clearly VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT... BREATH... FUHT-FUHT-FUHT.. and so on.. got it?).

I hope that helps, it would definitely shorten your FRTR time by a lot and you can surely use the rest of that time for another one or two rituals. I do the 42 names RTR daily in the morning now and I'm starting to add more as soon as I see I can juggle the time efficiently.

Personally, I'd fill half my day with rituals and RTRs if I could, they've been doing SO freaking much I can't even quantify it anymore.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
I got_abs said:
I started doing FRTR,its been 4 days. There are 22 letters to be reversed. I wanted to ask that can i break down FRTR? Like reverse 11 letters and then take a break of 1-2 hrs and reverse another 11. It takes me around 40-45 min to do the entire FRTR in one sitting. Its all good now but in future as summers are approaching i wont be able to go up on terrace where i do my FRTRs.Now in winters its easy to go up because of winters itself ofc,"i m sitting in sun abosrobing vitamin D" and all excuses but i cant give the same excuse in 40 degrees celcius. Ahhhh the thing is im only 19 i just turned 19, though i dedicated at age of 14 ish. So,i have a personal room but doing the vibrations it will ofc reach the ears of my parents. Though they know i meditate but i dont want them to hear vibrations and ask me anything about my meditations.I want to keep things as low key as possible. To them i meditate like,a person just and closes his eyes and stares into darkness of his eyelids and all the modern age meditations crap.
I do 5 sessions of meditations,that is around 3-5 hrs of meditations daily FRTRs including and 2 of the sessions i go and do them on terrace. If its an option to break up the letters in sets of 11-11 i will be able to adjust rtrs in my regular meditations session as i stay awake till 2 am meditating and it will be really easy for me to adjust FRTR in that.

Also,i m working on someone lets just say to bring someone in my life. I kept astrology in mind and start on waxing moon on cancer when it wasnt void,this year. So which way will be quicker? 1.Working on other person's aura to bring that person to me (you know putting the green aura around that person while in trance and stating the affirmation)
OR 2.Affirmating and programming my own aura to bring that person to me. Which one would work quicker? been almost a month i m doing 108 affirmation everyday to bring that person to me.

Thanks for helping me in advance.
HAIL SATAN!

First of all, about the fear of being overheard, you can very well have some music playing to confuse what sounds come out of your room. It doesn't have to be metal or something you can sing along that will probably distract you, but you can use anything instrumental from movies or videogames to help you focus AND cover the sound (you STILL want to hear yourself, don't drown out your voice).

As for the duration, it baffles me that anyone would need 40 minutes for a single FRTR unless they're doing like.. 36+ reps for each letter or more. IF you're vibrating them too long (like you vibrate a Rune) then don't. You can just speak the words (although vibration technically has more power) and it will only take maximum 10 minutes or less. When we didn't do the Tetra together with the FRTR I was able to do a full one while I drove from home to work in 10 and something minutes, just to squeeze one more in every day. But even now it doesn't take my anywhere more than say 10-15 minutes.

Something I found out in my first months experimenting with the FRTR everyday, is that the quick repetition of the letters (say 9 reps of the same word/letter in ONE breath) would STILL have a lot of impact on me. The quick repetition was almost like it was stacking up power in order for me to quickly build a good defense against the jewish curse and a great offense to rip it open the moment I was being neared by anything jewish.

Doing it vibrated, like with one long breath for each one of the 9 repetition for EACH word will more than likely tired you out quickly and there will be a lot of yawning during your FRTR... not because you're getting sleepy or bored, but because your face and jaw muscles will need to re-oxygen more often as you're using than more than if you were speaking. I find yawning to be really irritating during rituals, almost signifying I don't really believe in what I'm doing, which is definitely not the case.

Try speaking the words, like 9 in one long breath, that should be comfortable (I mean like... BREATH. Speak clearly VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT-VAHT... BREATH... FUHT-FUHT-FUHT.. and so on.. got it?).

I hope that helps, it would definitely shorten your FRTR time by a lot and you can surely use the rest of that time for another one or two rituals. I do the 42 names RTR daily in the morning now and I'm starting to add more as soon as I see I can juggle the time efficiently.

Personally, I'd fill half my day with rituals and RTRs if I could, they've been doing SO freaking much I can't even quantify it anymore.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
You should not do the 42 rtr if its not on the schedule. Only the F-rtr and tetra for now.
 
luis said:
You should not do the 42 rtr if its not on the schedule. Only the F-rtr and tetra for now.

Is that somehow going to be counter productive? :/ The ritual description says it can be done anytime, I really don't think we can do 'too much' of an RTR, especially in this phase of the war. Besides, I have started to benefit from it, getting better dreams and messages from my Guardian, which I couldn't get to before. Still hazy and not the easiest to interpret, but there's definitely been a positive change, even in my FRTR+Tetra quality, I've been feeling the enemy lessening in power and panicking at the effect. That's something wonderful if you ask me.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:

HPHC, can you help settle this? Good or not to use a usually scheduled RTR outside of the scheduled time? Thanks.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
luis said:
You should not do the 42 rtr if its not on the schedule. Only the F-rtr and tetra for now.

Is that somehow going to be counter productive? :/ The ritual description says it can be done anytime, I really don't think we can do 'too much' of an RTR, especially in this phase of the war. Besides, I have started to benefit from it, getting better dreams and messages from my Guardian, which I couldn't get to before. Still hazy and not the easiest to interpret, but there's definitely been a positive change, even in my FRTR+Tetra quality, I've been feeling the enemy lessening in power and panicking at the effect. That's something wonderful if you ask me.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:

HPHC, can you help settle this? Good or not to use a usually scheduled RTR outside of the scheduled time? Thanks.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
It says like that because when the rituals were made we did not have a schedule and we could do the whenever. Now everytime we asked Hoodedcobra666 said we should just do the Frtr and tetra. Doing an rtr alone is not as powerful when done as a group, you better give all the energy to the frtr and tetra.
 
luis said:
It says like that because when the rituals were made we did not have a schedule and we could do the whenever. Now everytime we asked Hoodedcobra666 said we should just do the Frtr and tetra. Doing an rtr alone is not as powerful when done as a group, you better give all the energy to the frtr and tetra.

Can't wait for the JoS to be updated.. there's more and more stuff coming up that's either a paradox or simply outdated knowledge that's clearer now, years after. Even information about some of our Gods' multiple names, as I see it's asked a lot on this forum.
Hopefully this gets done soon.. :/ but then again, I'm not as advanced or experienced to know how busy an High Priest is during an average day, especially now with all that's constantly happening.

So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
Have you tried RAUM-meditation? It's pretty strong boost, I must say. Reserve at least 25 minutes for it though.
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
luis said:
It says like that because when the rituals were made we did not have a schedule and we could do the whenever. Now everytime we asked Hoodedcobra666 said we should just do the Frtr and tetra. Doing an rtr alone is not as powerful when done as a group, you better give all the energy to the frtr and tetra.

Can't wait for the JoS to be updated.. there's more and more stuff coming up that's either a paradox or simply outdated knowledge that's clearer now, years after. Even information about some of our Gods' multiple names, as I see it's asked a lot on this forum.
Hopefully this gets done soon.. :/ but then again, I'm not as advanced or experienced to know how busy an High Priest is during an average day, especially now with all that's constantly happening.

So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
You could do the King and Queen meditation, the Raum meditation or the Merkaba if you are ready. As long as you keep doing the basic stuff its fine. You could unblock chakras that needed it with the thurisaz rune and you could fix health issues you may have or get rid of hung-ups, all of this is needed to advance.
 
Henu the Great said:
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
Have you tried RAUM-meditation? It's pretty strong boost, I must say. Reserve at least 25 minutes for it though.

Good call and yes, I just restarted doing it (although so far I never felt a thing from it before but I guess I should do it longer).

I just made it part of my daily routine so.. we'll see when it works. Thanks Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
Good call and yes, I just restarted doing it (although so far I never felt a thing from it before but I guess I should do it longer).

I just made it part of my daily routine so.. we'll see when it works. Thanks Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
Over the past 11 months I have done it thrice, and yesterday was the last time. I did the raum 13x which took me 13 minutes. :D After that 40x of the second part and that took me about the same. After that I did 18x surya with 9x affirmation for easy money just because I wanted to use that energy to something and it was that or cleaning. :D This was definitely the time that I got the best result from it due to doing the proper amount of vibratons patiently and I think daily cleaning has paid off also not to mention yoga.

I don't know how much time you have spent for it, but as with mantras usually slower results in more power. My torso and head was buzzing, and heart chakra got activated at the end. This is very new thing for me this life, but I will keep doing it occasionally for now, and maybe add it to daily routine later this year.

Are you doing kundalini yoga and hatha yoga daily?
 
Henu the Great said:
Over the past 11 months I have done it thrice, and yesterday was the last time. I did the raum 13x which took me 13 minutes. :D After that 40x of the second part and that took me about the same. After that I did 18x surya with 9x affirmation for easy money just because I wanted to use that energy to something and it was that or cleaning. :D This was definitely the time that I got the best result from it due to doing the proper amount of vibratons patiently and I think daily cleaning has paid off also not to mention yoga.

I don't know how much time you have spent for it, but as with mantras usually slower results in more power. My torso and head was buzzing, and heart chakra got activated at the end. This is very new thing for me this life, but I will keep doing it occasionally for now, and maybe add it to daily routine later this year.

Are you doing kundalini yoga and hatha yoga daily?

Three times and you got that much out of it? That's amazing result to me.. if the 13x only takes 13 minutes a day I strongly suggest you keep it up daily and see where it takes you. I still remember this dude months ago who said he used to vibrate RAUM for like 400 days and (because Raum is also a God who bestows the ability to speak with animals and understand them, AND HPS Maxine said that vibrating the Gods' names will somehow strengthen their abilities in you too) he got incredible results with wild animals (didn't get too specific as it's not exactly safe to speak too publicly with all the kikes spying on us, but the concept was an eye opener).

Yeah, I do daily (almost, I'm fixing that) Kundalini yoga and Hatha yoga.. they're something that I learned has way more benefits than advertised.
Also, but this I guess comes later, I read about Raja Yoga, which is basically the entire energetic/magickal part of Yoga, which is supposed to teach you and make you realize about your own "8 Siddhis". Look them up if you haven't.. some of them DO sound like a physical impossibility... then again, HPS Maxine did mention that "the mind can accomplish everything" (or something like this) and I don't really know how to quantify that. I've had one experience in this life that has changes all my view on what is possible physically and what isn't, and the outcome of that is that I don't believe we should limit our thinking because if not everything, then NEARLY everything is possible and can happen in an instant, as long as we direct the right energy, willpower, and do it properly.

Weird thought I just had...
Almost twenty years ago when I was just getting started with Spiritual Satanism I asked the pendulum about my Guardian's name and I initially got RAUM. Now I know he's not my Guardian, but I can't help thinking it might have been a clue to follow this meditation (I don't think the Raum Meditation was already out, it might have been a sign for me to pay attention to future meditations posted in the JoS).

I'll definitely rewrite my training and add this one daily. Let's see what happens. Thanks for the feedback, Brother. :)

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Please do check your e-mail. Thanks Brother.

Thanks for the message. Replied.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
Henu the Great said:
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
Have you tried RAUM-meditation? It's pretty strong boost, I must say. Reserve at least 25 minutes for it though.

Good call and yes, I just restarted doing it (although so far I never felt a thing from it before but I guess I should do it longer).

I just made it part of my daily routine so.. we'll see when it works. Thanks Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

How do you NOT feel anything? If you don't feel anything, you're vibrating the mantras wrong. The mantras need to be at the frequency that makes your chakra vibrate. So, the R makes your muladhara chakra vibrate, the A your svadhisthana, etc.

This is mantra 101, explained in the very first meditation to open the soul (third eye). If you're not feeling the vibration in the chakras, then you need to adjust the frequency until you feel it, which can require a few tries.
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
Yeah, I do daily (almost, I'm fixing that) Kundalini yoga and Hatha yoga.. they're something that I learned has way more benefits than advertised.
I am now doing both daily because that's what is required. I used to skip days, and not do kundalini yoga much at all, but I fixed this ~1.5 months ago. I had to critically ponder what is important and what is not, and priotitize my usage of time. Doing both daily is not a problem in any way anymore.

Also, but this I guess comes later, I read about Raja Yoga, which is basically the entire energetic/magickal part of Yoga, which is supposed to teach you and make you realize about your own "8 Siddhis". Look them up if you haven't.. some of them DO sound like a physical impossibility... then again, HPS Maxine did mention that "the mind can accomplish everything" (or something like this) and I don't really know how to quantify that. I've had one experience in this life that has changes all my view on what is possible physically and what isn't, and the outcome of that is that I don't believe we should limit our thinking because if not everything, then NEARLY everything is possible and can happen in an instant, as long as we direct the right energy, willpower, and do it properly.
She is right. It's just that due to times being what they are it's very hard and arduous process to get to such a level. One more reason not to skip physical yoga. :D
 
Stormblood said:
How do you NOT feel anything? If you don't feel anything, you're vibrating the mantras wrong. The mantras need to be at the frequency that makes your chakra vibrate. So, the R makes your muladhara chakra vibrate, the A your svadhisthana, etc.

This is mantra 101, explained in the very first meditation to open the soul (third eye). If you're not feeling the vibration in the chakras, then you need to adjust the frequency until you feel it, which can require a few tries.

My strong lack of feeling was the number one reason for which I joined this Forum over one year ago. No matter what I did, RAUM, MerKaBa, even Elements most of the time, I would feel nothing or very, very faint energy, so faint that I often thought it would be my desire to feel it instead of actual energy.

I did begin to feel more after finally giving a serious effort to the Final RTR and I also felt something "start" in the muladhara after the first times I've done the three Serpent RTRs (Removing Curse, Removing Obstacles, Empowering for Gentiles), so I'm sure SOMETHING is working. Only the energy is generally still nothing compared to what others constantly describe. I started the Element absorption meditations HPS Maxine recommends to start with 2-3 breaths WITH the recommended amount of breaths, but had to raise the bar to a lot more than that before I'd definitely feeling something. Haven't really counted as I focus on the feeling, but I'm around 70 or 80, sometimes more as in terms of time I did some for one or two hours straight.

The only Element I felt and that gave me some problems (noticeable ones) was the only missing one from my chart, the other three are almost equally balanced and never gave me trouble at all.

Regarding adjusting the vibrations, that's exactly what I started doing. I begin the first RAUM (1st to heart) with a lower tone, and try the second RAUM (heart to crown) with a higher pitch that DOES some vibrating in the chakras...

I guess I'll follow your advice and try every single vibration and tone my voice can produce until I feel something in EACH chakra.
This is quite possibly my greatest and only problem in Spiritual Satanism. Feeling energy. If I did clearly, I have no idea how far I would go and how little that would take me, as I usually learn everything practical very quickly.

Thanks for the hint, Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Henu the Great said:
She is right. It's just that due to times being what they are it's very hard and arduous process to get to such a level. One more reason not to skip physical yoga. :D

THANK YOU. Most of the time when I bring this up or read about someone else saying it, people tend to dismiss something too.. you know.. "impossible?" as just that. It's too wonderful/fantastic/unheard of so it just can't be possible.

Well, fuck that thinking, I say. I trust HPS Maxine knows what is possible more than someone who's not even accomplished half what she's done in this life alone, so I'll believe her before dismissing anything.

I've been reading about Raja Yoga (forgot this name, just lately re-read the same VERY OLD book I first found this information in) when I was like 13 and immediately felt a strong connection with that information. I just knew it was legit and possible. Even if the "Siddhis" described defied what we're constantly led to believe as 'physical limitations'. Fuck limitations, this is Spiritual Satanism.
Isn't EVERYthing energy? Isn't "matter" energy as well? Well, then we can manipulate it in every way we can train ourselves to do so.

I don't believe anything is impossible anymore. Thanks for being smarted than most, Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
I don't believe anything is impossible anymore. Thanks for being smarted than most, Brother.
I don't know if it's the smarts or simply that I feel it in my unconcious that these things are real despite the times being like very uncouraging in terms of low vibration all over yet at the same time it's like I've seen it before, or have I? Heck, I just want to do my best to gain my past knowledge and ascend...

Never give up bro.
 
Henu the Great said:
I don't know if it's the smarts or simply that I feel it in my unconcious that these things are real despite the times being like very uncouraging in terms of low vibration all over yet at the same time it's like I've seen it before, or have I? Heck, I just want to do my best to gain my past knowledge and ascend...

Never give up bro.

Couldn't help but laugh, Brother.. for a moment there I felt as if this entry of yours could be something we'll find in the future, maybe a far one, and we'll laugh about ever "wondering" if our future present will be possible at all.

I do believe you've seen it before, as I feel very much the same. The proof I had in this life is simply one more drop to nourish the knowledge I already have.

Never give up, indeed, and be careful. I have a feeling these days are even harder for those who are advanced, attracting so much unwanted attention it makes some turn away from our path. See it before, and I know the enemy is certainly trying its best to do it again. Always be cautious, no protection is ever too much.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
 
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
I got_abs said:
I started doing FRTR,its been 4 days. There are 22 letters to be reversed.

Thanks for helping me in advance.
HAIL SATAN!

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Personally, I'd fill half my day with rituals and RTRs if I could, they've been doing SO freaking much I can't even quantify it anymore.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Yeah thanks a lot for the help brother I appreciate it.
 
luis said:
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
luis said:
You should not do the 42 rtr if its not on the schedule. Only the F-rtr and tetra for now.
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:

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HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
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Luis, one more question if you dont mind brother. Do you use any affirmation for cleaning the chakras ? and cleaning the aura? If yes then what are those? Or i dont need affirmation for cleaning aura? and only affirm for chakras?

What i do is i vibrate surya for 72 time (i will increase it soon) imagining myself in bright light (no affirmations)
And on chakras i vibrate raum on each for 9 reps (also no affirmation) do i need affirmation for this?

I m kind of confused for which things i need affirmations for and for which things i dont need.
 
I got_abs said:
luis said:
Satan_is_our_Father666 said:
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HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
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Luis, one more question if you dont mind brother. Do you use any affirmation for cleaning the chakras ? and cleaning the aura? If yes then what are those? Or i dont need affirmation for cleaning aura? and only affirm for chakras?

What i do is i vibrate surya for 72 time (i will increase it soon) imagining myself in bright light (no affirmations)
And on chakras i vibrate raum on each for 9 reps (also no affirmation) do i need affirmation for this?

I m kind of confused for which things i need affirmations for and for which things i dont need.
Every working needs affirmations. You could the returning curses 1 and 2. You dont need to do 216 reps if you can't, you can start with 72 or less. I suggest to stop that working and start the returning curses. If you dont want to do the returning curses you could restart the same working that you are already doing and add an affirmation for protection. For example:"In a positive way for me I'm always protected and free from negative energy". Just feel that your chakras, soul and aura are free from any negative energy and you'll be fine.
 
luis said:
I got_abs said:
luis said:
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Every working needs affirmations. You could the returning curses 1 and 2. You dont need to do 216 reps if you can't, you can start with 72 or less. I suggest to stop that working and start the returning curses. If you dont want to do the returning curses you could restart the same working that you are already doing and add an affirmation for protection. For example:"In a positive way for me I'm always protected and free from negative energy". Just feel that your chakras, soul and aura are free from any negative energy and you'll be fine.

Ohhh i understand it now,sorry if i ask stupid questions sometimes. I read a lot and then i get confused and my brain starts to demand every detail so i dont do anything wrong. Also if you are comfortable can you provide me with your email brother that way if i have any question i can ask you there and dont have to wait for approval of messages. It takes an entire day to get one question answered.
 
I got_abs said:
luis said:
I got_abs said:
Every working needs affirmations. You could the returning curses 1 and 2. You dont need to do 216 reps if you can't, you can start with 72 or less. I suggest to stop that working and start the returning curses. If you dont want to do the returning curses you could restart the same working that you are already doing and add an affirmation for protection. For example:"In a positive way for me I'm always protected and free from negative energy". Just feel that your chakras, soul and aura are free from any negative energy and you'll be fine.

Ohhh i understand it now,sorry if i ask stupid questions sometimes. I read a lot and then i get confused and my brain starts to demand every detail so i dont do anything wrong. Also if you are comfortable can you provide me with your email brother that way if i have any question i can ask you there and dont have to wait for approval of messages. It takes an entire day to get one question answered.
Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.

About my email, the ones I use for these forums I don't check often, you better post a new topic if you need any information and/or look in the forum for the answers, there are many posts and your questions may have already be answered. I check the forum way more often than my email.
 
luis said:
Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.
It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/ThreeSteps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.
 
Henu the Great said:
luis said:
Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.
It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/ThreeSteps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.
 
luis said:
Henu the Great said:
luis said:
Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.
It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/ThreeSteps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

What confused me the most is when i look at aura cleaning and aura of protection topics in forums they have same affirmation,almost same. For example in AC people suggest to use "I m always safe protected and healthy in every way at all times"
Then gain, in AOP people suggested "At all times i m mentally physically safe secure protected and healthy in every way"
They almost same, so with both workings we are protecting ourselves and NOT GETTING RID OF NEGATIVE ENERGIES which are already there,right?

Shouldnt AC be like "In a really positive way,i m getting rid of all negative energies and my aura is free of all negative attatchments"
And aop be like "I m at all times mentally physically and spiritually safe secure protected and healthy in every way"

Also after cleaning my aura i also need to clean chakras separately? Though i do complete chakras meditation everyday.

So it will be like - 1.Clean aura with vibrations OR returning curses
2.Do AOP
3.Cleaning chakras with vibrations.
What i mean is cleaning the aura WILL IT NOT CLEAN MY CHAKRAS AS WELL? or i need another 9-12 of vibration on each chakras with affirmation at end
or i can add about chakras in AC affirmation? like after doing suryae 111 times and affirm "My aura and my chakras are completely free and getting rid of all negative energies in a really positive way for me"
 
luis said:
Henu the Great said:
luis said:
Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.
It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/ThreeSteps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.


Heres what i do everyday without skipping anything.

1st session :
Void meditation for 5-10 mins
Raise energies using Satanas - 24 times
use aum - 12 times
Do Crown,6th and throat chakra ( from complete chakra meditation)
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP (will add vibrations in this week,for now doing it normally as on on beginers meditation)

2nd session :
Hatha yoga
Foundation meditation (breathing in energies from sun)
Heart,solar chakra from complete chakra meditation
Raise energies
Planet mantra for achieving something - 12 times then affirmation 18 times

3rd session:
Kundalini
Sacral and base chakra (from complete chakra meditation)
Runes for the same goal which i mentioned in 2nd session then affirm 18 times
Trance practice
Void for 5 min

4th session:
Raise energies using satanas and vuh vah voh
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP

END of the day.

I will add meds such as single serpent raising and raum meditation soon and alternate the days like one day do complete chakra med all of them and next day single serpent and raum and meds such as these.
 
luis said:
Henu the Great said:
luis said:
Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.
It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/ThreeSteps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

That's because people are not used to using their brain to condense the information together. They are used to have it on a silver platter. That's not how life or Satanism work. One will get nowhere if they can stop and use their brain to elaborate information and apply it properly, not just absorb which is the stupidity taught in jewducational establishments.
 
Stormblood said:
luis said:
Henu the Great said:
It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/ThreeSteps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

That's because people are not used to using their brain to condense the information together. They are used to have it on a silver platter. That's not how life or Satanism work. One will get nowhere if they can stop and use their brain to elaborate information and apply it properly, not just absorb which is the stupidity taught in jewducational establishments.
But when we are trying to educate as many people as possible in a fast time, it ends up working better when it is simple enough for the least creative people to understand.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Stormblood said:
luis said:
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

That's because people are not used to using their brain to condense the information together. They are used to have it on a silver platter. That's not how life or Satanism work. One will get nowhere if they can stop and use their brain to elaborate information and apply it properly, not just absorb which is the stupidity taught in jewducational establishments.
But when we are trying to educate as many people as possible in a fast time, it ends up working better when it is simple enough for the least creative people to understand.
I agree with this. The easier it is the less mistakes they make. There are many young people discovering satanism, I was young when I found it and its normal to make these mistakes when you are young. Better to be clear as possible when you are teaching these powerful things. This is no math, raising energy and then do a wrong affirmation or no affirmation could create many problems.
 
I got_abs said:
luis said:
Henu the Great said:
It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/ThreeSteps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.


Heres what i do everyday without skipping anything.

1st session :
Void meditation for 5-10 mins
Raise energies using Satanas - 24 times
use aum - 12 times
Do Crown,6th and throat chakra ( from complete chakra meditation)
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP (will add vibrations in this week,for now doing it normally as on on beginers meditation)

2nd session :
Hatha yoga
Foundation meditation (breathing in energies from sun)
Heart,solar chakra from complete chakra meditation
Raise energies
Planet mantra for achieving something - 12 times then affirmation 18 times

3rd session:
Kundalini
Sacral and base chakra (from complete chakra meditation)
Runes for the same goal which i mentioned in 2nd session then affirm 18 times
Trance practice
Void for 5 min

4th session:
Raise energies using satanas and vuh vah voh
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP

END of the day.

I will add meds such as single serpent raising and raum meditation soon and alternate the days like one day do complete chakra med all of them and next day single serpent and raum and meds such as these.
Make sure to not do too much, if you can't handle it or don't have time. Affirmation are important after you have vibrated a mantra or rune. Good luck with your meditations ;)
 
luis said:
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.
When I do not understand something right away I read it again, and again until I understand it. Sometimes I have to take time off to do something else, and come back later. That's how learning works. Confusion is a block that has to be overcome in order to advance.
 
Henu the Great said:
luis said:
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.
When I do not understand something right away I read it again, and again until I understand it. Sometimes I have to take time off to do something else, and come back later. That's how learning works. Confusion is a block that has to be overcome in order to advance.
I do the same but young people may not understand this and may not read the whole site for example.
 
I got_abs said:
luis said:
Henu the Great said:
It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/ThreeSteps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.


Heres what i do everyday without skipping anything.

1st session :
Void meditation for 5-10 mins
Raise energies using Satanas - 24 times
use aum - 12 times
Do Crown,6th and throat chakra ( from complete chakra meditation)
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP (will add vibrations in this week,for now doing it normally as on on beginers meditation)

2nd session :
Hatha yoga
Foundation meditation (breathing in energies from sun)
Heart,solar chakra from complete chakra meditation
Raise energies
Planet mantra for achieving something - 12 times then affirmation 18 times

3rd session:
Kundalini
Sacral and base chakra (from complete chakra meditation)
Runes for the same goal which i mentioned in 2nd session then affirm 18 times
Trance practice
Void for 5 min

4th session:
Raise energies using satanas and vuh vah voh
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP

END of the day.

I will add meds such as single serpent raising and raum meditation soon and alternate the days like one day do complete chakra med all of them and next day single serpent and raum and meds such as these.

Ahh,nvm haha i found my answer under "using planets for chakras" topic while browsing the forums randomly. When you dwell on a question your aura brings answers to you. Has happened to me many times. Anyways thanks a lot for the help brothers.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Stormblood said:
luis said:
Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

That's because people are not used to using their brain to condense the information together. They are used to have it on a silver platter. That's not how life or Satanism work. One will get nowhere if they can stop and use their brain to elaborate information and apply it properly, not just absorb which is the stupidity taught in jewducational establishments.
But when we are trying to educate as many people as possible in a fast time, it ends up working better when it is simple enough for the least creative people to understand.

At the expense of their mental growth. You cannot get to any high level with handouts from other people. One actually needs to understand what is going on. Even if someone were to post all the instructions for the Magnum Opus or for raising the kundalini tomorrow, most people who are not at the right level will gain little to nothing from that information, as they will not be able to apply properly due to lack of understanding and experience. And if they tried it they'd just end up opening the door to insanity and a lot of damage.

By giving people fish, you are not helping them. You need to teach them how to fish, if you want to help them. The JoS teaches how to fish. Doing the homework for other people is akin to babysitting. It does not help. If you see, most people are still asking the same thing as day one "What affirmation should i use?", "How many reps should I do?", "What sign should the Moon be in?", and "How do I make a working for this?". The same people over and over across the years still ask the same questions. Giving the answer hurts them in the long run.
 
Stormblood said:
At the expense of their mental growth. You cannot get to any high level with handouts from other people. One actually needs to understand what is going on. Even if someone were to post all the instructions for the Magnum Opus or for raising the kundalini tomorrow, most people who are not at the right level will gain little to nothing from that information, as they will not be able to apply properly due to lack of understanding and experience. And if they tried it they'd just end up opening the door to insanity and a lot of damage.

By giving people fish, you are not helping them. You need to teach them how to fish, if you want to help them. The JoS teaches how to fish. Doing the homework for other people is akin to babysitting. It does not help. If you see, most people are still asking the same thing as day one "What affirmation should i use?", "How many reps should I do?", "What sign should the Moon be in?", and "How do I make a working for this?". The same people over and over across the years still ask the same questions. Giving the answer hurts them in the long run.



You've been very wise lately Brother. I've been wanting to comment on this since I read it because it relates to me. I completely agree with this. I could of just done some critical thinking instead of making a recent post. My excuse is I didn't want to be like the people who start making up their own wild meditations or adding so many extra steps to the RTRs, for example. I should trust myself more and this post of yours gave me more motivation to do just that.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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