Dahaarkan said:
Karnonnos said:
If we went by your logic we'd be praising glorious commissars, Indonesian factory workers and Congolese child miners as the greatest society can ever offer. After all, we of privilege in the West simply couldn't do without their baseline contributions and resource extraction. All day every day people must praise that, the basics of existence. No amount of praise is ever enough right?
Not necessarily the greatest, but should be up there as the more respected in society, because they are literally toiling away their lives to provide you with essential things that you need to survive and live.
Respected fine - but why should they be
more respected'? Westerners after being subjected to the worst industrial slavery of any place in the world and re-incarnating since moved past this about 100 years ago, complex beings in complex societies have more complex needs and functions. Now for the sin of this in the estimation of the jew, we are subjected to constant judgements about this and how we 'deserve nothing', in addition to the memory of this industrial slavery being wiped out of existence, because 'muh poor africans, mother africa, dey gave us everything'.
Most of these people if they came to the West would start tyrannizing us and treating us [not jews] like shit regardless of their suffering and giving us what we need to survive, especially if gibesmedats and kill whitey fo' mo' money was waved in their face. And traitors of all classes here would side with them because "they suffered so much compared to us, we exploited them and they gave us everything we haaaaaave, the least we can do is give them our country
" [even though "we" built everything fucking here and the IDEAS and machinery they use to create and do anything higher-level in the first place]
People do not necessarily learn from suffering. So I will give them some respect for what is owed them, but I would rather be fucking dead than prostrate and bend the knee. It is no better than doing so for a spoiled, specifically pampered footballer, who also 'bend the knee' for such people and their considerably wealthier compatriots of the 'diaspora' with every advantage a modern westerner has in the most ritualised manner possible in every stadium across Europe because um, some mean people are racist or something.
I would bend for a farmer from my country - but a farmer from my country
IS PART OF A HIGHLY SPECIALIZED, EUGENICALLY SELECTED CASTE WHO BENEFITTED FROM ENDLESS LAND ACQUISITIONS IN THE 19TH-20TH CENTURIES, EMPLOYING OTHER PEOPLES LABOR, TECHNOLOGICALLY ENDOWED, etc. Not a Zimbabwean tiller. The difference is, I don't see any pejoratives in the allcaps part of my statement.
It is what it is, and part of what is so offensive about the vegan scum trying to outlaw farming is that a lower caste of resentful filth are trying to project rules onto something higher than them. It is not 'poor little farmers being oppressed by powerful vegans
' it's a group of subhumans [puffed up with titles of questionable quality like "university student"] picking on what is exceptional, irreplacable and unique because their jew handlers gave them the green light to do so and at the core of it all, they are cowards. No different from monks of the 4th century who also attacked farmers because "the end is high, the world is over". These freaks are likely to some degree reincarnations or genetic offspring of this anyway.
The simple fact is anyone can be a Zimbabwean tiller, anyone can be a factory worker (speaking as someone who yes, WORKED IN A FACTORY MYSELF), anyone can be a 'streamer' and anyone nowadays (certainly not four decades ago) who is in the average range of intelligence (let's say above 85 IQ) can be a 'university student', or even be the professor of some shit subject like 'LGBT Afrikan@ Studies'.
Not everyone can be a pro footballer, not everyone can be an artist, and definitely not everyone can be a Western farmer either. This is what Lunar Dance meant. The jew categorizes all three of these as 'bourgeois superexploiters' (as the jewish soul can do none of these) and every single one of these in a communist regime is brutally destroyed immediately. As Pol Pot's regime said (this sentence is an expression of jewish hopes and dreams about ruining each and every specialized caste of Gentiles, these castes being what Hitler pointed out in Mein Kampf as constituting
a master race instead of one of slaves), "to destroy you is no loss, to preserve you is no gain."
Out of the three, if people choose to hate farmers in the Western world (actual horrors of the meat industry aside) and continue to worship someone as talentless as Drake or repugnant and shrill as Beyonce - once again, this is their own issue caused by being immature and naive at the soul level at best, retarded at worst. The jew itself can only do so much, even with curses, before someone willingly becomes an eager lapdog or program themselves to 'deserve less'. If a jew tells someone to jump off a cliff are they going to do it?
Struggle and toil is one thing and that in itself is why some attributes of third worlders have an edge, even admirable qualities (like the fact they haven't been convinced to castrate themselves like idiot westerners), but suffering alone is NOT, NEVER WILL BE virtuous in itself, and it does not make them more worthy of praise than us or a footballer. To suffer is an xian 'virtue' and nothing more.
Dahaarkan said:
Why are you so strongly against poor workers being given the respect, pay and praise that they rightfully deserve?
I never said that they need to be worshiped like they are gods. But they should be given the respect and praise that is warranted for creating essential things. Treating laborers as the lowest in society when they are literally the reason you have food on the table is unjust.
You said the state needs to praise them endlessly [as if that even makes a difference to their lives] and cut out entertainers out of any praise whatsoever...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Dahaarkan said:
This is what pisses me off you do not have an issue with a farmer or factory worker who feeds thousands of people being poor and neglected by society, but I say one thing about retarded tiktokers and you have a meltdown. This to me just proves you are a consoomer and an addict raging because I talked shit about your drug.
I never said shit about fucking Tiktok retards being worthy of praise, I said about the relenting practice of attacking people with SKILLS that are in shorter supply due to the required complexity of a soul to accomplish these than the skill of working in a factory in a basic position. This mindset is exactly what led you into the AI and art bullshit.
Once again, if you are so pained by labor value 'exploitation' as you said in the other thread, I question why you defend Western farmers at all.
Dahaarkan said:
As usual, lots of accusations, and no quotes in which I said any of the above, all context hidden for the sake of argument, also as per usual. You really think you're pulling some shit like anybody buys any of your retarded lies and made up accusations.
EXACTLY what this entire thread is. You took her quote entirely out of the context she was typing it in (a week since she even typed it) and then layered in a bunch of accusatory silliness and smears about her being some neckbeard defending her OnlyFans habit, just because she took exception to you ranting about artists and sportspeople all the time.
If this was a thread quoting someone who was defending themselves playing 12 hours of video games every day, addicted to dogshit like Euphoria and wasting tens of thousands of dollars on porn [there are even posts like this that actually exist here], if it was a corrective like the one Lydia politely issued at people being influenced by TV and social media to think they're ugly and shitty [yes, such individuals need to shut this shit off and unlike Lunar Dance defending entertainers ONCE they keep talking about their complexes 24/7], it would be completely valid to some degree, but as it is, it's just a case of skewed accusations. You still didn't respond to what she said in this very thread either, but then we know it was only designed as a launchpad for the usual drama queen bullshit.
When did I or Lunar Dance ever say "POOR LABORERS SHOULD FUCKING DIE, I HAVE 300,000 STEAM HOURS AND I BOUGHT A BELLE DELPHINE VIP PASS, OOOH LAWD EVERYONE SHOULD LOVE FOOTBALLERS AND EVERYONE SHOULD FOLLOW ISLAND BOYS ON TIKTOK!! BILL GATES MASSA GON GIVE ME SOME SHILL COIN FOR THIS!"... yet from step one you pretended this was the case. This is not an argument style, this is the same type of circus hysterics and contortions along with 'you disagree with me therefore you love jews' to "win over the crowd" you repeatedly learned from your usual arguments with Jack and jrvan. Sophistry is BORING...
Every single SS that dares disagree with you is put on the same low tier of being a retard and a moron on the lowest possible level ever with 'something to hide' and the absolute worst of intentions and vices, as if you are judge jury and inquisitor or know anything about us (really you don't know shit), even someone as exceptional as NakedPluto [someone I would bend the knee to out of respect as this is earned, not given] was recently cross-examined with this dumb routine. All this hostile approach ever does is inflame topics to turn into hellscapes on minor points of disagreement.
I don't give a fuck if anyone 'buys' what I am saying, dumb little cliques either, I can't be bought. Scrutinizing the taste of the masses and what it will ultimately lead to is one thing, but if SOME SS want to wind themselves up so tightly they end up like Ghost or Aldrick or anyone from the neurotic psycho 'good old days' where they go outside and all they see,
ever, are jews, Greys, little blue gnomes and "degenerates" having too much fun with retard phenomena, ignoring those of exceptional talent, and then deciding that anyone suggesting integrating any level of fun unrelated to said phenomena (enjoying exceptional talent) into one's routine =
NEEDING CORRECTIVE STRUGGLE SESSION ASAP they can do that. Enjoy the 'great' results this will give you.
You can safely throw Tiktok in the trash, but I'm simply stating what the price of this approach of work, work, work and no winding down can be.
The rich certainly know how to have fun and put this into their routine. It's like when incels claim that 'rich Chads' don't know what masturbation is and would never play video games in any way whatsoever as all they're doing is fucking 10/10 women and checking their stock portfolio 24/7. Have any of them ever known a 'rich Chad'? This is not reality. No shit they work hard and have priorities unlike some FF14 addicted neckbeard, but they are not inhuman.
The symptom and the cause are being confused relentlessly with this logic. Someone with a disordered and resentful mind is prone to make skewed observations about someone who has more balance or ease in their soul in one area (wealth, looks) because they can't fathom where it comes from and what it produces.