Energy work is underrated

[SATANAS_SUPREME666]

Hi,

In this post I wish to say one thing that just doesn't sit right with me. And that is energy work being underrated.

I see some people saying things like "magic and runes can only help so much, if you have an issue in your life you need to directly solve that issue" or treating magick as some sort of secondary supportive factor in achieving our goals.

I completely disagree with this mindset not only because it contradicts my experience but it also wasn't ever written anywhere on the JoS page and I think its the result of people being weak at magick as beginners and therefore claiming that magick is not as powerful as it actually is.

My experience has been the opposite. Let's say a person is suffering from a lack of happiness. There are two ways of solving this.

One is a direct form of advice which is "Learn to live and enjoy the present moment" and the other is vibrating runes, mantras, magick.


In my experience the latter works so much better, whenever I vibrate a solar or sacral mantra, I experience more pleasure, fun and happiness in my life compared to simply following the first advice.

Whilst I don't disagree with directly targeting the issue, I think people should never treat magick as a "secondary" supportive factor. Its power is limitless. Its as powerful as you are and as weak as you are.


Of course in the beginning, our manifestations and magick are weal without training so I can see why someone might claim magick is weak.


But it really isn't. As you grow more powerful, you'll easily be able to turn your life around and you shouldn't limit yourself with this attitude of "magick and runes can only do so much".

There is no limit to what magick can do. Absolutely not. If something is not working => that means it needs more energy. With enough energy any magickal effort can be realized.

 

[Henu the Great]

It's not being underrated just because those who essentially are still beginners say so.

 

[Hs666]

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It is necessary to act, to make it work. If "magic" did not act, in your feminine part, you would have no real results.

During the manifestation phase, rituals, spells, a positive effect on work, and "Feeling" that "grows" the desire, the will, to get there.

The "magic" will lead you to take the necessary action. But if you bring resistance, such as not acting, this can lead to failure. The opposing force generated by your will (Third chakra), can thwart the work. Therefore, it is recommended to believe and have no doubts.

Action will "facilitate" the work.

Which is also connected to your third chakra. This chakra is, the powerhouse of one's power, connected to the will. The whole soul is "connected" to this chakra. The stronger that chakra is the faster your soul will advance.

No action no result. Magic has limits, and it is not unlimited. It is "connected" to how things work. There are certain laws present that cannot be "passed." To always be happy is not possible, to never fail is not possible, because the laws of duality are "present."

You cannot, eat the Sun, or go live in it, you can have great power, but you will still fail, no magic can do it.

Action = Consequence, is another law present here. "Stagnation" can be a symptom of any "blockage," karma or energetic opposition disturbing the work.

 

[AFODO]

We often say that if you 100% want to solve something in life, you need both spiritual and physical effort which is true.

If we assume that we are Gods than we can of course manifest billions of dollars in a week but we aren't delusional and we say things according to our mortal limitations.

Energy can only do so much for us, because we aren't that powerful. Hence some advanced people can manifest and experience things that would be considered as fantasy, but take in account that the universe has laws, and also that energy can only do so much even for Satan, and collectively all the Gods, hence the enemy exists.

 

[SATANAS_SUPREME666]

It is necessary to act, to make it work. If "magic" did not act, in your feminine part, you would have no real results.

During the manifestation phase, rituals, spells, a positive effect on work, and "Feeling" that "grows" the desire, the will, to get there.

The "magic" will lead you to take the necessary action. But if you bring resistance, such as not acting, this can lead to failure. The opposing force generated by your will (Third chakra), can thwart the work. Therefore, it is recommended to believe and have no doubts.

Action will "facilitate" the work.

Which is also connected to your third chakra. This chakra is, the powerhouse of one's power, connected to the will. The whole soul is "connected" to this chakra. The stronger that chakra is the faster your soul will advance.

No action no result. Magic has limits, and it is not unlimited. It is "connected" to how things work. There are certain laws present that cannot be "passed." To always be happy is not possible, to never fail is not possible, because the laws of duality are "present."

You cannot, eat the Sun, or go live in it, you can have great power, but you will still fail, no magic can do it.

Action = Consequence, is another law present here. "Stagnation" can be a symptom of any "blockage," karma or energetic opposition disturbing the work.

Yea well I think this is wrong for example take a Venus square for beautification.

It will make your face beautiful but you did not go to the plastic surgeon, you didn't really do much for your face apart from the Venus square and affirming that it made you beautiful.
Here there is no "action" apart from magick. It literally changed your face without action.

 

[SATANAS_SUPREME666]

And I think its case dependant. Action is not always neccassary, sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It also depends on what affirmation you used.

 

[SATANAS_SUPREME666]

It is necessary to act, to make it work. If "magic" did not act, in your feminine part, you would have no real results.

During the manifestation phase, rituals, spells, a positive effect on work, and "Feeling" that "grows" the desire, the will, to get there.

The "magic" will lead you to take the necessary action. But if you bring resistance, such as not acting, this can lead to failure. The opposing force generated by your will (Third chakra), can thwart the work. Therefore, it is recommended to believe and have no doubts.

Action will "facilitate" the work.

I'm trying to understand what you think here. Do you think Magic makes you take action in the physical world to achieve your goals? Is that what you're saying? Then what was the purpose of magic at all anyways? Why not just take action without the magic? Doesn't this make magic redundant from this perspective?

What's the difference here between someone who does not know about magic and takes action and someone who does know and use magic whilst also taking action?

 

[SATANAS_SUPREME666]

Yea well I think this is wrong for example take a Venus square for beautification.

It will make your face beautiful but you did not go to the plastic surgeon, you didn't really do much for your face apart from the Venus square and affirming that it made you beautiful.
Here there is no "action" apart from magick. It literally changed your face without action.

Besides, none of this explains my personal experience as with my example above

When I increased my sun energy, life become more fun and interesting. My life was the same as before, same activities, yet those same activities were now more lively and fun than before. I didn't take any other "action"

So this idea that action is 100% neccassary is wrong.

 

[Havoc]

Besides, none of this explains my personal experience as with my example above

When I increased my sun energy, life become more fun and interesting. My life was the same as before, same activities, yet those same activities were now more lively and fun than before. I didn't take any other "action"

So this idea that action is 100% neccassary is wrong.

My experience with magic is that it has the power to transform the soul and body of the practicing mage, it enables self mastery over your feelings, experiences and thoughts in a way that simply taking the action doesn’t.

But I’d describe myself as intermediate as I think most people are, most people who have to ask questions about a working are not super advanced so telling them to back up a spell with acting is a good idea, someone powerful enough to physically do things isn’t going to ask about how it works or need advice so nobody is going to say to just do the magic to someone not that powerful.

I’m vary hopeful that magic do amazing things for us and would love to hear about any progress you make.

The example you gave about the sun square falls under soul transformation rather then physical action so it doesn’t prove you can just cast a spell and not do anything.

 

[WiseDragon]

You are right, Magic can be very powerful, but in my opinion many people think it's a substitute to physical work and action. But it's not a substitute, it's an addition. In many cases for the best results you actually have to combine your spiritual energies with concrete actions. Does this mean that Magic alone is worthless and unnecessary? No, not at all.

For example it's extremely common for people to start studying Magic thinking that somehow their spells are going to make them extremely wealthy without them having to do anything at all in terms of actual work. This is not realistic. Let's say two persons do the same spell with the same amount of power to get wealthy. The person who will also work hard, study, seek opportunities and so on will have 10 times the results that the other person who just did the spell without doing anything concrete had.

Same with an healing working for example. If you assist your Magic with the right kind of treatment, herbs, medicines etc. you will have much better results instead of using Magic alone.

Lastly mentioning your own example to make yourself happy sure you can use energy work, but if your actions are not good and lead you to a depressing life, your spell will only help so much, maybe it will make you a bit less depressed. Instead if you coordinate your spell with your actions it will be much more powerful.

 

[luis]

It's case by case. For example let's say you do a spell to attract the perfect partner, you still need to take action, you can't expect to fall in your lap. Action is more or less needed, generalizing is never good but its not a bad advice to take some action.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Physical and spiritual are both equally required. If either one is missing, the person will fail.

 

[Yurei]

If I were to do a Gebo working or Venus square to attract an ideal partner, I would still need to go outside and find her, the working would make it more likely for us to cross paths.

 

[Hs666]

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I had sent the response, but it seems that something went wrong, you will have a "double" response in case of bugs or whatever.

The problem is that you, you focus on the conscious action(Male part), and consider only that as the "only action".

During the day and over the course of your life, your "feminine part" the one that is not "visible" performs "actions" that you are not conscious of doing.

The difference is the "same" as us and the gods. They can create a city only by thought, we cannot. An advanced SS can manifest simply by will without using mantras, runes or squares.

In drastically advanced states, the female part becomes conscious, merges with the male part, and manifestation will be immediate, and all "mechanisms" will be "seen, "understood."

A normal person cannot "affect" the feminine part, which is responsible for manifestation, as we do. This has to do with "how things work."

Action = Consequence, is a law present in this life that cannot be hacked in any way. As explained above.

Magic "uses" natural mechanisms to make changes, ordinary people have neither knowledge nor power to do this. In a minor way they can do it, but in a very limited way and it will be in accordance with their astrological alignments.

Taking your example, when you perform, the square of Venus, and become "beautiful," during the process you will have exeugitated actions that will bring about this, otherwise it would not manifest. The actions performed are not necessarily "seen" by you on a conscious plane(masculine part), because it acts on an "Unconscious" plane(feminine part).

When a transit affects a person, until it manifests the person will have to take "actions," but when this happens, this is not seen, but the "unconscious" part will respond through "actions" to align with the influence.

You will see the result at the conscious level when already the action of the feminine part has already performed its "actions." This is also related to duality, and creation, "linked" to the number 2.