Neilsonbar said:
ok whoa whoa whoa whoa I've never seen this from here before, and realised today I forgot the pass to my old account I think the email was
[email protected] or one the planet ones I had, if you find it please can you tell me the password? - Dude, donations are willing charity I'm not going to strain myself extra in my job that's already highly demanding or add the burden of another on myself to give you fifty dang bucks?
Maybe you don't have any right to tell me what to do with my own money and how to budget our personal financial lives. Did you ever think about this? I'm not a damn coward if I say no I don't want to give you my money, it's not yours to begin with man and you say it's for the gods like the christian churches. If high priestess maxine says the demons and demonesses are returning soon then what good is money going into this anyways?
Donations are not charity when you receive inordinate amounts of spiritual knowledge. The Christian church gives nothing. Of course, you are free to understand none of this, and nobody forces you for anything. I expect 99% of people to deny certain subjects, as I know I live on a planet with literal primates.
If certain amounts look scary to you, like 50 bucks [personally, I see these as that even if I make a lemonade stand, I could make this contribution - each to their own].
Only if I had the same thoughts, there would be nothing at all. Certain people like myself have goals and visions for the Joy of Satan to expand globally, and this is beyond any of that you say. In regards to it "Going to the Gods", it is never said so. The work that it produces however, is for them.
No arrival of anything is going to happen at this rate, for one, because most people are fast asleep, for two, the internal work that needs to be done is prohibited by foolishness.
Neilsonbar said:
If you couldn't be self relying then you probably should downsize or get more people to run the storages. I'm not giving you a single cent just for challenging my property like this and calling me all these bad things if I don't because that's not donating, that's psychologicaly extorting me.
it made me feel like crap but then i got angry that you're doing this. would you call me owardly for not giving my energy too or something isn't that what's going to be our future currency?
it made me feel like crap but then i got angry that you're doing this. would you call me owardly for not giving my energy too or something isn't that what's going to be our future currency?
You are hallucinating and lying at this point. Nobody beat you out of anything. The level of pathetic lying in your reply is off the charts.
Are you a cowardly billionaire or millionaire, and are you afraid to give something, which is what the category describes above as cowardly?
In this case, please do not send anything. These are the two categories that have been called cowardly. And yes, from your message, it seems like your hands are shaking over nothing.
Neilsonbar said:
sorry if I'm wrong I dont remember if it was you or someone else that said that. I'm directing my rtrs on you from now on because something's wrong with you high priest when you start saying this sort of stuff I think you need help because you've begun acting like a christian I been noticing, mostly with donations. you literally just made a guide on how to donate just the other week why do you need money that badly man?
You are having a tantrum to the point you don't even know if I said things or not, or what I said, regardless, feel free to curse me.
Neilsonbar said:
I think you need to slow down and take a deep breath, there's money workings so why dont you or all of us together just do that instead? we can do a money ritual to help fund the websites. our protections rituals work don't they? so a money working should work just as well too, this way we dont get too depressed or exhausted for you as well with the rtr ritual timings when we do extra. Are father satan and the demons and demonesses not supporting you for the websites? why not it seems like they should you said.
Imagine if literally Pericles or someone else in this world, did only sit on a fucking rock and ask help from the Gods, and not from his people that are considered too, if anything, their physical incarnations.
How many a Great Athens anyone would have, wouldn't it be... As we all know, everything great in this world was merely built by prayer and came out of thin air.
The fact one has to relate basic laws of the universe for what is literally life itself, and what is observable in the world, is really showing the miserable level that the enemy has put us in.
It is truly painful to read replies like this. The only pleasure that could balance this out is to get a backfire when you try to curse me, for literally trying to help you, when there is literally zero obligation for me to do so from any material standard.
Young Faith said:
This is the first time I've ever said this, but I have something against this post.
I can't help but to think about the request for donations, I've never seen that here, ever.
And, I don't know, I've never liked when someone asks for money, especially if it's done in a guilt-tripping way like this (or at least this is how it feels to me).
Recently I promised to myself that I shall not believe everything I see/read like a Christian would, and this is the first time I don't appreciate a post.
I mean, I absolutely agree with the rest of the post (about how intentions are useless against actions), I just don't feel good about the fact that the first example was donating money.
I completely understand why the JoS would need money, there are a lot of JoS websites and good hostings aren't free.
But HPHC if there is someone here who have the spiritual capabilities of gathering a lot of money to ensure the JoS is thriving, that's most certainly you.
In my opinion, donations from the rest of us should be a help and not a duty, especially if we're talking about newbies, ESPECIALLY in this economy.
I can see how more experienced SS are more expected to donate.
I just don't like the execution of this post, and I'll be more than happy to be proved wrong with good arguments.
Actually, I hope to be wrong/missing something.
I have trust issues after seeing how many HPs have been kicked out.
All of what you write is mostly projected fears which I unfortunately am noticing are present in people because of financial woes, or in particular, because you have suspicious thoughts.
I am shocked at both the unwillingness of some people to assume ANY responsibility for this, and I am also shocked at the help and generosity of many others.
I will of course answer your concerns.
I am a High Priest. My life is not exactly devoted or meant to be devoted in doing certain things that people think I must do, rather, I have to serve the community and the Gods, and not the shekel. To create inordinate amounts of wealth, I have to work for that particular purpose. Doing so, sacrifices for other areas.
Regardless, I have taken endless responsibilities for a very long time to compensate on the lack of abilities and willingness of others. Clearly, this ongoing trend will continue, and in essence, I will remain in this condemnation for a long time as it's part of my choice to create something of substance for others.
No matter what "I" do, or not do, what is important is however for everyone to wake up to the fact that they too have responsibility towards themselves and the Gods. Most people are literally sleeping.
I have literally people here who tell me useless drivel about the Gods, as if Babylon or Persia or Egypt was literally created out of a rainbow fart, and not by collective labor and power projected by people, that the Gods have assisted and guided us to do.
This is how it happened. This is reality and life.
Personally, I been all the way from learning about 12 subjects ranging from programming to law, in order to defend this place sufficiently and this might look like a God-like situation, which of course, only prompts people to say: Do more of this, so that we do nothing [and therefore YOU carry us to where we need to be].
The above, is a longterm catastrophic approach to matters, simply because it procures wrong consciousness such as that everyone else will do everything for you. As much as I would be willing to do this, there are only 24 hours in a day.
The Joy of Satan exists because of people who DO NOT think in this way. In other words, for anything to grow in this world, people have to take initiative and do things - be this help towards something, volunteering, monetary, or otherwise.
The most important thing one can do is volunteer time. Statistically, 99% of people do not do this. But 100% of people ask for Great Babylon to be created.
Therefore, I illustrate to you what needs to be done for this, and I am only confronted with irrationality and fear.
Then I have to bring to your attention that as a generation that is here to make a change, you too, have a part of responsibility into this. I am already doing beyond the maximum myself for a long time, only seeking to expand on what "Maximum" means.
I will not mention further things I have given as I desire to retain silence, but if there are donators in this place, I am certainly on the top three myself by far. People close to me know this.
Lastly, just to be clear: I do not care what anyone might or might not do. One has to understand about their OWN decisions. If I was in your position [where I have been, years ago], I would have donated and have done so, having probably the same amount of strange thoughts like you. Because I was a retarded Christian when I joined, I even wondered why a Donation button still existed and had the stupidest thoughts about the subject. Regardless, I did what I considered noble at the time.
What is of any particular concern is understanding. Statistically, 99% of people do literally nothing. Except of maybe have irrational demands and so on.