Dr. Phil on Posession

[Sundara]

In this video, Dr. Phil works with someone claiming to be possessed and spiritually raped, etc.. I think this is a very useful tool for those that have come on here with these experiences and Dr.Phil goes on about this in a wonderful way. She is clearly somewhat shocked at the end because her previous intentionally or unintentional beliefs were deconstructed. She appears offended she does not want to say that she has perhaps been wrong her whole life about understanding herself. The people surrounding her condoned it. They also don’t want to face what the actual problem is. Dr. Phil starts by saying a part of him believes her, so as to actually work her out of her delusions.


There’s other more blunt ways that can be done but overall I think this is really worth sharing.

https://youtu.be/0U3u06n9wWs

The comments are helpful as well. Her experiences with herself are real in her mind, but it’s something she is allowing and creating. A person can in fact stop this garbage completely. They just have to admit it.


Taking accountability goes for all parts of ourselves. No one is going to actively try to rescue most people from delusions unless they want to be. If I were talking to her I’d simply say you’re making it up, and it’s all in your head. If you believe you’re possessed and that holy water will have the effect it has been taught to you as, you can easily create that experience in your mind. A part of me would also want to slap her and tell her to shut up and get over it, that would be effective in the moment and probably not wrong. But fewer long term results.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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These types of problems usually involve deep problems and cannot be resolved by just one session of treatment, especially not a Dr. Phil one. The same goes for just simply slapping the person or whatever. If it was that easy, then it would be part of the treatment protocol.

Most likely, brutalizing a person with mental issues will just cause them to run away, so I am not following your full strategy here.

A lot of these issues are beyond the scope of what the world can currently provide. If anyone is dealing with these types of people, then get them medical help, but otherwise move on. They may most likely require a full Satanic treatment center, which does not yet exist.

 

[Karnonnos [JG]]

A lot of this Dr Phil stuff is staged with actors as well, I don't trust anything from the oprah media empire (Ellen degenerate, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, ((bhad bhabie)), ((suze orman)) etc.) as Oprah simply does everything for money and is supposedly a whacko xian who picks fights with others about their diets not being 'biblically correct' behind the scenes. She also at the start of her career pushed a lot of the Satanic panic bullshit then went full nu-ager in the 2000s.

In 1980, Canadian psychiatrist Lawrence Pazdar published Michelle Remembers, a supposed account of repressed memories drawn up through hypnosis. In the book, his patient (later spouse) Michelle Smith claimed that their treatments had uncovered repressed memories of her parent's involvement in a "satanic cult." Michelle alleged that not only had she witnessed sacrifices of human infants, but that she herself had been subjected to horrific torture, abuse, and even possession by Satan. The book earned Pazder and Smith a $100,000 hard-cover advance, $242,000 for paperback rights, royalties, and a potential movie deal.

BULLSHIT WARNING: In late 1983, the McMartin family, owners of a California preschool, were accused by a parent of molesting children under their care. In 1984, seven McMartin family members and staff were charged with 115 counts of child abuse, later expanded to 321 counts of child abuse involving 48 children. During the trial, accusations were made that the alleged abuses were "satanic" in nature. Claims that the abusers had dressed as ministers or Santa Claus to help cover up their abuse were mingled with even more outlandish stories involving hidden tunnels under the preschool, and claims that one of the abusers possessed the power of flight. In the aftermath of the charges and the publicity that surrounded them, more than 100 other preschools faced similar accusations. The organization "Believe the Children" was formed to promote the theory of ritual satanic abuse happening across the nation, particularly in preschools and similar facilities.

(My note: The enemy pushed this bullshit cuz they knew the truth was only a few years away)

In 1988, NBC aired the prime time special "Devil Worship: Exposing Satan’s Underground," hosted by ((Geraldo Rivera)). Pete Roland, a Carl Junction, MO teenager charged alongside two others in the 1987 murder of a classmate, was interviewed due to the allegedly Satanic nature of his crime. Over the course of the film, ((Rivera)) alleged that thousands of children were being sacrificed by Satanic cults in the US every year, and that metal music and marijuana were in part responsible for leading many teenagers to Satanic worship and horrific crimes. "Exposing Satan's Underground" became the highest rated television "documentary" aired up to that point. In the years that followed, hundreds of documentaries like it aired on every major network. In 1989, Oprah Winfrey featured Michelle Smith and Laruel Rose Willson, another author of a Satanic ritual abuse survivor memoir, on her program, uncritically warning her millions of viewers about the danger that Satanic cults posed to their children.

https://www.senate.mo.gov/LegislativeLibrary/Panic.html

If this individual has a real problem, a lot of this seems to be tied into attention seeking and dependency behavior. Who is easier to blame for one's problems than Satan? We even see this here.

 

[Sundara]

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These types of problems usually involve deep problems and cannot be resolved by just one session of treatment, especially not a Dr. Phil one. The same goes for just simply slapping the person or whatever. If it was that easy, then it would be part of the treatment protocol.

Most likely, brutalizing a person with mental issues will just cause them to run away, so I am not following your full strategy here.

A lot of these issues are beyond the scope of what the world can currently provide. If anyone is dealing with these types of people, then get them medical help, but otherwise move on. They may most likely require a full Satanic treatment center, which does not yet exist.

I would not literally slap her. Yes, she would need further help - good observation. It’s not implied she wouldn’t. But it’s a step to her helping herself. Even therapists and people who provide treatment cannot help or treat anyone if they are capable but not willing to help themselves. The woman is capable, fully capable. And, she had a breakthrough at the end. So now, she is capable of seeking further help. She is a very coherent and capable person, just doesn’t want to recognize that. Her delusions, believe it or not, are very simple looking at it from the outside. It’s the same as people who have had fake Tourette’s for YEARS from TikTok, and as soon as it is properly explained they’re suddenly cured. Her family here has told her this is all valid and they seem to ride off of it. Whatever she is dodging or gaining from these delusions, I do honestly think if we were talking about this literal person, yeah it is technically her who allows this to continue despite her history, at least subconsciously. I know that is sore to say. People with certain mental illnesses can take accountability and it can change their life. This to me is no different than reptilian delusions and other attacks.

For people that I care for I’ve gone about helping them in a similar fashion, but being more direct like this would’ve been more beneficial at times. Except so as to not disgrace valid spiritual experiences it’s a tough thing, it’s like walking on eggshells. I’ve talked a LOT of people out of delusions in my life, or have at least tried. Kind ways mostly, except when I’m literally attacked. They’ve been from a lot of different backgrounds, just out of free will, I’m aware that casual cruelty is not usually effective. But if I have to be that harsh person, I can be extremely harsh.

I can tell at this point what to condone for someone and leave versus what to help them see. Better at least. Sometimes people just are the way they are but I can tell that this is not true to this persons personality they’ve buried in fear and anxiety. I’ve never brutalized anyone who is mentally ill, except for when it has put me in direct harm. On a daily basis people find I’m the only one they can turn to or trust with severe issues, and I am happy they can rely on me too. At some point a person has got to be just more direct. In life I’ve been placed in this sort of helper or rock position even for people who are violent, and this didn’t effect me the way it would effect other people. I’m not talking about on here I’m talking about in real life.


Helping at a distance is nice though. It’s true to my own nature and less personal. I get very creative in resolving issues. If it fails, I try again. This is a really effective video for people to watch and consider who actually want help getting negative experiences to end, they could take something from it if they’re willing to consider another perspective.

 

[Sundara]

A lot of this Dr Phil stuff is staged with actors as well, I don't trust anything from the oprah media empire (Ellen degenerate, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, ((bhad bhabie)), ((suze orman)) etc.) as Oprah simply does everything for money and is supposedly a whacko xian who picks fights with others about their diets not being 'biblically correct' behind the scenes. She also at the start of her career pushed a lot of the Satanic panic bullshit then went full nu-ager in the 2000s.

In 1980, Canadian psychiatrist Lawrence Pazdar published Michelle Remembers, a supposed account of repressed memories drawn up through hypnosis. In the book, his patient (later spouse) Michelle Smith claimed that their treatments had uncovered repressed memories of her parent's involvement in a "satanic cult." Michelle alleged that not only had she witnessed sacrifices of human infants, but that she herself had been subjected to horrific torture, abuse, and even possession by Satan. The book earned Pazder and Smith a $100,000 hard-cover advance, $242,000 for paperback rights, royalties, and a potential movie deal.

BULLSHIT WARNING: In late 1983, the McMartin family, owners of a California preschool, were accused by a parent of molesting children under their care. In 1984, seven McMartin family members and staff were charged with 115 counts of child abuse, later expanded to 321 counts of child abuse involving 48 children. During the trial, accusations were made that the alleged abuses were "satanic" in nature. Claims that the abusers had dressed as ministers or Santa Claus to help cover up their abuse were mingled with even more outlandish stories involving hidden tunnels under the preschool, and claims that one of the abusers possessed the power of flight. In the aftermath of the charges and the publicity that surrounded them, more than 100 other preschools faced similar accusations. The organization "Believe the Children" was formed to promote the theory of ritual satanic abuse happening across the nation, particularly in preschools and similar facilities.

(My note: The enemy pushed this bullshit cuz they knew the truth was only a few years away)

In 1988, NBC aired the prime time special "Devil Worship: Exposing Satan’s Underground," hosted by ((Geraldo Rivera)). Pete Roland, a Carl Junction, MO teenager charged alongside two others in the 1987 murder of a classmate, was interviewed due to the allegedly Satanic nature of his crime. Over the course of the film, ((Rivera)) alleged that thousands of children were being sacrificed by Satanic cults in the US every year, and that metal music and marijuana were in part responsible for leading many teenagers to Satanic worship and horrific crimes. "Exposing Satan's Underground" became the highest rated television "documentary" aired up to that point. In the years that followed, hundreds of documentaries like it aired on every major network. In 1989, Oprah Winfrey featured Michelle Smith and Laruel Rose Willson, another author of a Satanic ritual abuse survivor memoir, on her program, uncritically warning her millions of viewers about the danger that Satanic cults posed to their children.

https://www.senate.mo.gov/LegislativeLibrary/Panic.html

If this individual has a real problem, a lot of this seems to be tied into attention seeking and dependency behavior. Who is easier to blame for one's problems than Satan? We even see this here.

That’s another but separate thing to be aware of. The people themselves are not actors but are paid and convinced to be there. Situations are dramatized, and Dr. Phil himself is also an actor with somewhat of another professional background. But images being painted and shows can be useful in illustrating a point to someone. People should definitely be aware of that when they watch these shows, and you’d think that’s just obvious at some point. The point I’m trying to make with these post is a completely different topic than the jew run anti-gods agenda overall.

 

[Sundara]

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These types of problems usually involve deep problems and cannot be resolved by just one session of treatment, especially not a Dr. Phil one. The same goes for just simply slapping the person or whatever. If it was that easy, then it would be part of the treatment protocol.

Most likely, brutalizing a person with mental issues will just cause them to run away, so I am not following your full strategy here.

A lot of these issues are beyond the scope of what the world can currently provide. If anyone is dealing with these types of people, then get them medical help, but otherwise move on. They may most likely require a full Satanic treatment center, which does not yet exist.

And yes maybe also saying literally “it’s in your head and you’re making it up” is too brutal of an approach, which I haven’t typically said to many people. But that more just reflects a current feeling of mine. That’s what I would FEEL like saying at this point. I haven’t said that to many satanists at least. We can always be better. Anyway, it’s really not that deep of an issue. If a person is labeled as having too deep of issues or a problem is SO SERIOUS, and it’s portrayed in a horrendous way that just winds up validating their own already poor complex about whether or not they have any control over their issues. I think it’s always best to say a person CAN recover, be believed in, and can handle honesty. And that it’s not as difficult as they may think.

 

[xlnt]

That's all from me in this thread.

 

[GoldenxChild1]

Aren't you some jew?

 

[Henu the Great]

Aren't you some jew?

I think the statements of not feeling okay about bashing jews and not needing to meditate to be a SS speak for themselves regardless of OPs origins.

 

[Nameless One]

In this video, Dr. Phil...

I stopped reading right here. "Dr." Phil is a horrible man-hating feminist cuck. He is known to gaslight and scold men who are abuse victims and coddle women, literally for doing the same things as men, or even admitting of abusing men:

https://shrink4men.com/2011/01/24/dr-phil-and-domestic-violence-he-just-doesnt-get-it/

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

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This kind of shitposting reflects poorly upon the forum and our public image in general.

You can get the point you're trying to make across in a much more mature and concise manner, without all the crap speech which should remain in lower internet dens like 4chan, reddit or youtube comment sections.

Not Satan's Temple.

Imagine a prospective person comes here to see what this is all about, and they see this crap?

Even if your intention is good, you should realize how the way you write reflects upon the JoS as a whole.

Don't bring this nonsense shitposting speech here.

Hail Satan!

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

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Don't ignore what I wrote to you, as this is quite important for you to reflect upon.

Someone being a known infiltraitor does not mean we should lower ourselves to similar levels of behavior to answer these.


A simple reply such as

"Sundara is a known infiltraitor, why are her posts still approved?"

Or

"This thing is a known infiltraitor, no point discussing anything with this creature."

Rather than the as you agreed it was, shitposting you wrote in reply.

There are better ways to go about this, than to shitpost in such a manner, even as a joke to make a point.


Just so it is clear, I don't defend sundara in this, I am well aware on what she is.

Her being an infiltrator has nothing to do with what I wrote, it applies in general.

Hail Satan!

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

This is the final post I will make in this topic. Sundara has been exposed as a blatant traitor and slanderer of the Gods and our forums, and their posts are still getting approved, and they are getting engagement from people in Satan's forums. I disregard your point that my shitpost is a bad reflection of the forums. Sundara is still posting at Ancient Forums. That is the disgrace.

I will not reply to you if you reply to me, I will literally pretend that it doesn't exist. I will be a brick wall as far as this subject goes. That is how we should treat degenerates like Sundara. I am deadly serious.

You are one of the people here I look up to. I will continue talking to you in other topics in these forums as if this conversation never happened.

I have watched countless dumspterfire threads here. Everyone keeps making the same mistake of giving the trolls, traitors and infiltrators (or people that attempt to infiltrate or think that they are infiltrating) engagement. Everyone spends their time arguing with their points. I absolutely intend to set an example that the bullshit of people who have been blatantly exposed as traitors and subversives needs to be completely ignored.

The OP will not succeed in sowing division. You are at risk at falling for their trap by criticizing my post. I will help you by ending this post, as my point has been made.

I now solemnly swear before Satan and the powers of Hell, that I will not reply to any more posts that you make in this specific topic, or that have anything to do with this specific topic, even if it is in other topics. I will also not reply to anyone else if they make similar posts to yours trying to make the same point you did.

Case closed. I will interact with you in the rest of the forums as if this topic never happened, you and I both know that is the best move.

Hail Satan!

We have to consider also the chance that she's a gentile. On which:

Regardless of the attacks, as it seems, and if one truly judges, in time, Sundara seems to have bad mental health problems.

So it does not pose any damage to let her speak, further the attacks have no value but be reflective of a real problem rather than hate, vicious attack and so on.

First times it happened, it suited the immediate reality for us to think this is some jew with attacks, but honestly reading all what she writes now, the nonsense and the bigger pictures, she is not an enemy but a person with problems that needs care.

One would ask how much discriminant value one possesses with such problems, and the answer is that it is limited.

A person with limited circumstances in life of a mental nature needs care not attacks.

Considering Sundara has also kids to take care of, I will choose to ignore all of the attacks, and try and let her be on a line of opening, so she may do in peace small meditations. Maybe this will help very much the situation.

With all of the above said, no - we don't need muh empathy for this neither anything else but only to not attack or be vicious about it. One cannot also trust in her and other things, but this can be dealt with a detachment and a firm judgment for the sake of a positive forward.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

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Read this too:

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=406026#p406026

You've been here for 2 years now. A certain level of maturity is expected.

I gave you my criticism, because you have the makings of a serious SS, therefore your aspirations too deserve to be higher.

Hail Satan!

 

[Sundara]

Slander the Gods? NEVER. Qouted the statement of Jews are irrelevant - once, yes. I know the reasons for that. Not needing to meditate? Never said that.

 

[Shadowcat]

Agreed, I just have one thing to say to the OP:

Cope. Seethe. Dilate. Didn't read + malding + ratio + walmart receipts + gope + not based and poop pilled + sponsored by Home Depot + Goatse + 7 Days Free + Nicholas Cage + Norwood 4 rage.

I'm shitposting to make a point that it's a waste of time to bother reading posts by exposed traitors. It's a waste of time to take them seriously, and it's a waste of our time for them to still be here. Any time someone like Sundara tries to act like they didn't literally turncoat and slander the Gods and our forums, what should really happen is they should get spammed with shitposts and anything that deflects whatever bullshit they're trying to pull.

I did not read any of Sundara's posts. I did not click on this topic to read Sundara's posts. I came here to drop a fat Canadian Fire Hydrant Repository and do the 4Chan dab, and schizo-post that Sundara is seething and coping, seething and coping. The only words I remember seeing are possession and Dr. Phil. We need to make it clear that degenerates like Sundara are not getting attention, and that we are not reading their posts. I will never give traitors any sincere and authentic engagement.

This is the only Dr. Phil episode worth watching.


With all that out of the way, wumbo skippy the chipmunk portable injection compstop coomlordaeron buddy boyo based and racing-streak pilled brutally turd-mogged by black metal screaming Japanese toilet sammy the skillful sock M72 LAW Call of booty 360 dolphin dive quickscope look at me i am sniper watch me lunge MLG.

VOE is right "shitposting" has no place in this forum. Remember also what I told you about your wording and how your message can be received. You will run into less resistance if you refine the way you bring across your points. For those who do not know, HP Cobra has given Sundara another chance here publicly in the forums some time ago. https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77301#p385381. I do not know how this still stands at this moment.

I gave some critique in the thread about what we would like to see from jos that actually should have fit in the critique thread that came later. I'll reiterate here that this is an example of how certain parts of the forum need to grow up. This shit has to go, as it indeed gives outsiders a bad image of JOS. Don't be a shitposter. If you are going to post something, make sure it is useful for everyone. Don't come here to constantly rant or post useless things, this isn't social media. It is a place to learn about the Gods and serious occult practices. It would also make me personally very happy to see everyone reacting more and engaging in useful topics instead of more so in drama threads.

People can make mistakes and get off track for whatever reason and find a way to fix themselves. Unless they time and time again betray trust and do significant damage to others there could be hope depending on the circumstance. Sometimes things happen and its part of human error.

I realized I was starting to police people too much when it came to catching would-be infiltrators when this is honestly a waste of time. It started especially when I ran into 2-3 so-called SS who turned out to be jews and I started to become hyperdefensive. It was a time waste for others as well. There is no point in this because jews will be rooted out in time always and they will never change no matter how many chances they are given. Time will show and speak for itself if it will show someone is a jew. Unless there is evidence of significant damage done or danger there is no use in screaming "fire."

 

[Sundara]

Agreed, I just have one thing to say to the OP:

Cope. Seethe. Dilate. Didn't read + malding + ratio + walmart receipts + gope + not based and poop pilled + sponsored by Home Depot + Goatse + 7 Days Free + Nicholas Cage + Norwood 4 rage.

I'm shitposting to make a point that it's a waste of time to bother reading posts by exposed traitors. It's a waste of time to take them seriously, and it's a waste of our time for them to still be here. Any time someone like Sundara tries to act like they didn't literally turncoat and slander the Gods and our forums, what should really happen is they should get spammed with shitposts and anything that deflects whatever bullshit they're trying to pull.

I did not read any of Sundara's posts. I did not click on this topic to read Sundara's posts. I came here to drop a fat Canadian Fire Hydrant Repository and do the 4Chan dab, and schizo-post that Sundara is seething and coping, seething and coping. The only words I remember seeing are possession and Dr. Phil. We need to make it clear that degenerates like Sundara are not getting attention, and that we are not reading their posts. I will never give traitors any sincere and authentic engagement.

This is the only Dr. Phil episode worth watching.


With all that out of the way, wumbo skippy the chipmunk portable injection compstop coomlordaeron buddy boyo based and racing-streak pilled brutally turd-mogged by black metal screaming Japanese toilet sammy the skillful sock M72 LAW Call of booty 360 dolphin dive quickscope look at me i am sniper watch me lunge MLG.

VOE is right "shitposting" has no place in this forum. Remember also what I told you about your wording and how your message can be received. You will run into less resistance if you refine the way you bring across your points. For those who do not know, HP Cobra has given Sundara another chance here publicly in the forums some time ago. https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77301#p385381. I do not know how this still stands at this moment.

I gave some critique in the thread about what we would like to see from jos that actually should have fit in the critique thread that came later. I'll reiterate here that this is an example of how certain parts of the forum need to grow up. This shit has to go, as it indeed gives outsiders a bad image of JOS. Don't be a shitposter. If you are going to post something, make sure it is useful for everyone. Don't come here to constantly rant or post useless things, this isn't social media. It is a place to learn about the Gods and serious occult practices. It would also make me personally very happy to see everyone reacting more and engaging in useful topics instead of more so in drama threads.

People can make mistakes and get off track for whatever reason and find a way to fix themselves. Unless they time and time again betray trust and do significant damage to others there could be hope depending on the circumstance. Sometimes things happen and its part of human error.

I realized I was starting to police people too much when it came to catching would-be infiltrators when this is honestly a waste of time. It started especially when I ran into 2-3 so-called SS who turned out to be jews and I started to become hyperdefensive. It was a time waste for others as well. There is no point in this because jews will be rooted out in time always and they will never change no matter how many chances they are given. Time will show and speak for itself if it will show someone is a jew. Unless there is evidence of significant damage done or danger there is no use in screaming "fire."

These are all responses that in my eyes are a bit overkill. Yeah, no need to worry that much BUT - I just found something out - a little more or less than a year ago I was not able to sacrifice much sleep and I was having some trouble sleeping.

I decided to just go in and get something for it and I asked for nothing major. I was told it’s just like Benadryl. “No side effects and non addictive” They also gave me trazodone and I did not take that because I was aware that it is also used as an antidepressant. Let me clarify - this was a willing request of mine. I’m already aware of how bad benzodiazepines are so I generally stay away from those. Only took it once. I actually started taking hydroxyzine frequently around Jan. This year. There wasn’t a lot on the internet about it but now there is. It affects serotonin levels. I just looked it up. It created symptoms in me that were not natural to me. I did not feel like myself after months and I actually thought this was just me. I had no idea.

I haven’t taken it for months and so I decided to take it again the last few days and I feel like some of those weird symptoms are subtly there again. I think I finally figured out what happened at least as far as an extended period of anger. Some of that though, valid enough.

It was fine to have taken it off and on but I was taking this daily for about 4-5 months and in larger doses. I didn’t realize what it could do long term. I also liked it because it is an antihistamine and I this was the only thing that took my allergy symptoms down. So I stopped taking this basically cold turkey as well. Which also had an effect but that worked for me.

The more I stay away from it the better I feel.
I actually DID tell cobra here that I had gotten this. Not that I had to.

I didn’t expect for this stuff make me outright feel suicidal after it had built up in my system. And then after coming off of it, worsening - and so no maybe my sentences aren’t as cohesive as they were or valuable to you. So I like that last paragraph.

I have never been mental, delusional, bipolar, ect. realistically. And hard circumstances have never even bothered me that much, at least not by societies definition, they usually just make me stronger. and so thank you guys for at least letting me talk this out even if it is amongst my own self mostly. But for your guys’ sake and clarity too.

I don’t think I would have actually seen this if I hadn’t but tipped off to be more safe. I’m sad that I’m just now seeing this as having as serious of effects as it has. Because as someone who knows themself… even I’m surprised.

There is a massive war on especially young people with the “mental health movement” and the promotion of psychedelics or pharmaceuticals, or pharmaceutical psychedelics as a cure for invisible or societally inflicted problems, and from doctors and even parents themselves. This medication wouldn’t have been an issue if I had only done it once or twice. Lesson learned. It probably wasn’t the car accident, it was definitely that.

So - less cohesive sentences, suddenly depressed, darker topics, anger and lower moods = serotonin depletion and loss of an ability to even determine the cause of this up until.. literally until hours ago re-researching this.

Now DESPITE THIS - I still stand by some of the info that I’ve said even if it was said in a very “bad” way. But since I’m just realizing this now - because even head injuries are not that serious - I mean they can be but mine was not that bad and I’ve had a lot of these and I always recover fine or don’t have my moods effected.

This medication is labeled as an antihistamine by the way. Or they sold it to me as this.

I have heard that anti depressants are some of the WORST things to take. Especially in a circumstance where it isn’t needed. And apparently this acts as an anti-depressant.

I’d honestly rather die with mental capacity than to succumb to this stuff. Doctors try to put people on these for EVERY minor issue. People just need to be themselves and be strong in that. I had noticed that when I was younger I could take anti depressants for just a couple months, have decent side effects and be fine. The older a person gets I think the more weak a mind gets or it doesn’t recover as quickly.

I’m not some out of control maniac or an addict. I was off by this for a minute.

And I think I already said, in reality I’ve been fine but others noticed just that being as low as I have been is not me. Obviously I’ve said stuff here I wouldn’t say to anyone else. Even under an influence.

There are still people here who cannot even understand the intelligence of actual animals so that is more alarming than my own behavior in my eyes. But - digress. Who knows. Things that affect serotonin are pretty serious. A multitude of factors can affect a persons clarity and mood.

And I’m not explaining this to appease anyone, build trust, or ask for some kind of “worthiness” tag.. It really has no emotional basis here but it is just to inform. This is obviously kind of scary that I am only just now able to see it and that that much self sight can be lost over such a thing.

And like I said, I promise nothing. Because the world is currently like a massive hurricane and Confucius say, shit happen. And if I get the pretend boot over this, do I care? Not literally. If it happens, it happens. That’s NOT what I care about or why I still post. Some sort of a reputation or fear of consequence or negative tag. But I DO care about proper information and the truth of all things. And other people. And how to be better.


“He who cannot obey himself will be commanded.” (Or labeled)
-Nietzsche. Natural law? I’m speaking for myself because it’s also the right thing to do. A person cannot do that if they do not know in the moment. But time gives way to most things.

My friends started warning me about pharmaceuticals MONTHS ago too, like right around this time, and I was like “YEAH guys I agree, this stuff is JUST an antihistamine though stop worrying about it” because I was still affected by it. It’s like a cloud of confusion. THEY noticed though, in hindsight.

Now that I KNOW that this is it though, I will try cease this stuff entirely. Instantly got some important input after telling others about this medication causing extreme depression. with similar experiences on a different platform. Just now. I haven’t been sold on any of the other plausible causes.

Now I hope this actually makes sense. Because this makes sense to me.