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Jrvan

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In the soldier sense. I don't personally believe that everyone needs to be excessively strong or have a thick skin, or be a certain way at all, in order to be useful. I don't believe in the military approach (of creating soldiers who can take on anything) being applied everywhere. It's good for the military, but not necessarily everywhere else. There are different classes of people in society who will contribute different things to society in their own way. It's also not the goal of every single individual to achieve the Magnum Opus in this lifetime, and many people still desire to be here and contribute in their own ways to the JoS. Everyone is at their own level and will grow at their own pace.

This is my opinion. There are other opinions that everyone needs to be toughened up like soldiers for various reasons according to the opinion holders. I am making this thread to get an idea of the general consensus and what people think and how they feel towards this question/topic. Anyone can comment here with their thoughts. I would prefer to remain hands off with this discussion if possible so please take advantage of this thread if you wish to discuss amongst yourselves, or even just leave your thoughts. This isn't about who is wrong or who is right in regards to this. I only am seeking to gauge what exists in people's minds as their own visions for the future of JoS.
 
Being strong is for a self purpose, not for usefulness or anything external. It is also a consequence of being invested and advancing in this path, becoming strong.

The solider parallel is done out of sympathy with our spiritual war, internal war and much more. A level of acquired discipline, sense of duty and motives are needed to actually persevere. Yes you definitely are not obliged to be in such way, as well as you are not obliged to become a God, as you are not obliged to be happy in your life.

Being strong means a loyal approach to one self, a serious approach to life and a real conscious path you take.

There's also a delimitation, from us here and the people outside. Not everyone is cut for this path, even thought everything is possible to them, exactly the weak spectrum of existence in them makes them unable to partake.

So yes if anyone wants a direct answer concerning real advancement in this path, yes you need to become strong. Not to your subjective view of it, that is filtered by society standards and other bullshit, but by a factual ability to overcome things.

In this path you overcome yourself, your flaws. You overcome your karma and also other kinds of them. In this path you fight the enemy, which is something of real importance. In this path you overcome death and this dimension of revelation.

For all of the above, you must not fear and you can't be weak. Weak doesn't mean emotion or anything of this sort, but can tell an inability of success solely by the individuals volition, such as not even carrying their weight around.

If the above is not understood, please ask as I can extend and explain. It is very possible these things are not understood simply because the mind juxtaposes the general meaning to the specific one.
 
Does everyone have to be a tough nut that won’t crack under extreme torture, go through navy seal training, be hot muscular military personnel? No.

Does everyone have to have the strength to stand and speak for themselves, pull themselves together, and take the hard path when needed? Yes. Even if their profession is being a babysitter.
 
jrvan said:
In the soldier sense. I don't personally believe that everyone needs to be excessively strong or have a thick skin, or be a certain way at all, in order to be useful. I don't believe in the military approach (of creating soldiers who can take on anything) being applied everywhere. It's good for the military, but not necessarily everywhere else. There are different classes of people in society who will contribute different things to society in their own way. It's also not the goal of every single individual to achieve the Magnum Opus in this lifetime, and many people still desire to be here and contribute in their own ways to the JoS. Everyone is at their own level and will grow at their own pace.

This is my opinion. There are other opinions that everyone needs to be toughened up like soldiers for various reasons according to the opinion holders. I am making this thread to get an idea of the general consensus and what people think and how they feel towards this question/topic. Anyone can comment here with their thoughts. I would prefer to remain hands off with this discussion if possible so please take advantage of this thread if you wish to discuss amongst yourselves, or even just leave your thoughts. This isn't about who is wrong or who is right in regards to this. I only am seeking to gauge what exists in people's minds as their own visions for the future of JoS.

Our circumstances are a bit different right now in these decades. Every single one of us needs to be as strong as they possibly can in every way. Why? Because we are at literal war. And the stronger the soldiers, the easier the battle will be for them. Not to mention that if you combine the amount of people who are dedicated satanists their numbers wont even exceed 1% of the population of this earth which is all the more reason for us to get absolutely stronger every day and advance and empower ourselves to make up for the people who haven't joined yet or will never join.

If we werent at war then what you say would be applicable. But sadly we are at war and apparently we are still going to be at war for the next ten or twenty years until the enemy has been defeated completely and permanently. Until then each one of us must sscrifice their time and energy daily for Father Satan's cause.
 
CaspianTheDreamer said:
jrvan said:
In the soldier sense. I don't personally believe that everyone needs to be excessively strong or have a thick skin, or be a certain way at all, in order to be useful. I don't believe in the military approach (of creating soldiers who can take on anything) being applied everywhere. It's good for the military, but not necessarily everywhere else. There are different classes of people in society who will contribute different things to society in their own way. It's also not the goal of every single individual to achieve the Magnum Opus in this lifetime, and many people still desire to be here and contribute in their own ways to the JoS. Everyone is at their own level and will grow at their own pace.

This is my opinion. There are other opinions that everyone needs to be toughened up like soldiers for various reasons according to the opinion holders. I am making this thread to get an idea of the general consensus and what people think and how they feel towards this question/topic. Anyone can comment here with their thoughts. I would prefer to remain hands off with this discussion if possible so please take advantage of this thread if you wish to discuss amongst yourselves, or even just leave your thoughts. This isn't about who is wrong or who is right in regards to this. I only am seeking to gauge what exists in people's minds as their own visions for the future of JoS.

Our circumstances are a bit different right now in these decades. Every single one of us needs to be as strong as they possibly can in every way. Why? Because we are at literal war. And the stronger the soldiers, the easier the battle will be for them. Not to mention that if you combine the amount of people who are dedicated satanists their numbers wont even exceed 1% of the population of this earth which is all the more reason for us to get absolutely stronger every day and advance and empower ourselves to make up for the people who haven't joined yet or will never join.

If we werent at war then what you say would be applicable. But sadly we are at war and apparently we are still going to be at war for the next ten or twenty years until the enemy has been defeated completely and permanently. Until then each one of us must sscrifice their time and energy daily for Father Satan's cause.

I didn't want to be quoted, but to contribute to the discussion I will say this: I think that kind of militant attitude that creates a certain atmosphere can ironically backfire. It's also the expectation that some push on others from a feeling of desperation that can be very damaging to the cause. It's kind of paradoxical. If we expect everyone to be soldiers (especially automatically) then it can potentially drive others away who could be helpful to the cause in other ways.

Even in the military, they have specialists working for them like engineers who may or may not ever touch the front lines, but they and their skillsets are nevertheless needed. They also contract civilians from society to build things for them like weapons, vehicles, armor, etc...

Weakness and strength are sliding scales, and a fiery passionate type who is already high up on the scale saying "war, war, war" will ironically defeat their own cause with the drill sergeant style by pressuring those who are lower on the scale, and writing them off as weak and worthless.

I find myself really liking NakedPluto's way of putting it with his balanced reply. He emphasized the importance of strength in a general sense for the ones who are invested in advancement on a personal level, and didn't say anything about how this fits into a community structure. Since you replied to me, I'll say I think even people who aren't invested in themselves as much as others on a person level might still have important things they can give to the whole. That's how I view it.
 
Pammy said:
1)Does everyone have to be a tough nut that won’t crack under extreme torture, go through navy seal training, be hot muscular military personnel?

2)Does everyone have to have the strength to stand and speak for themselves, pull themselves together, and take the hard path when needed? Yes. Even if their profession is being a babysitter.
1)Yes
2)Yes
 
jrvan said:
In the soldier sense. I don't personally believe that everyone needs to be excessively strong or have a thick skin, or be a certain way at all, in order to be useful. I don't believe in the military approach (of creating soldiers who can take on anything) being applied everywhere. It's good for the military, but not necessarily everywhere else.

In the sense of being balanced, you would need to develop your earth and fire traits. Yet, this does not mean you shouldn't specialize yourself either. At the same time, you wouldn't bottleneck yourself by not having any other traits, either.

For example, there are demons called Watchers, which spy on the enemy. As a job, this sounds very yin heavy. Yet, if you "tested" their inherent fire or earth traits, they would be like 100,000x or whatever stronger than even our local militaristic people.

As far as self-sufficiency goes, Nauthiz creates this, and it does so by inducing a bit of stress or pressure. It is said that this sort of pressure forces the fastest amount of growth, so it would be very useful in its own right. This does not mean anyone needs to get hurt or maimed by undergoing this process, either, if you are referring to a heavy-handed military approach.
 
Jack said:
Pammy said:
1)Does everyone have to be a tough nut that won’t crack under extreme torture, go through navy seal training, be hot muscular military personnel?

2)Does everyone have to have the strength to stand and speak for themselves, pull themselves together, and take the hard path when needed? Yes. Even if their profession is being a babysitter.
1)Yes
2)Yes

Sorry, they don't accept people my size into the military. I did well in the written exam though. Took it for the sake of trying.

You may want a near-psychopath that will keep the secrets when the enemy got his pregnant wife and is willing to trade. You wouldn't want him or the boot camp commander to raise your children or take care of disabled/elderly people or provide psychological support to rape victims.

Civilization needs both type of people, cold steel and soft pillow. Everyone needs to be both to some extent or we would have psychopaths on one hand and the crybaby weaklings on the other hand. It's not wrong for someone to be a dominantly soft pillow as long as they have enough steel inside.
 
Pammy said:
Jack said:
Pammy said:
1)Does everyone have to be a tough nut that won’t crack under extreme torture, go through navy seal training, be hot muscular military personnel?

2)Does everyone have to have the strength to stand and speak for themselves, pull themselves together, and take the hard path when needed? Yes. Even if their profession is being a babysitter.
1)Yes
2)Yes

Sorry, they don't accept people my size into the military. I did well in the written exam though. Took it for the sake of trying.

You may want a near-psychopath that will keep the secrets when the enemy got his pregnant wife and is willing to trade. You wouldn't want him or the boot camp commander to raise your children or take care of disabled/elderly people or provide psychological support to rape victims.

Civilization needs both type of people, cold steel and soft pillow. Everyone needs to be both to some extent or we would have psychopaths on one hand and the crybaby weaklings on the other hand. It's not wrong for someone to be a dominantly soft pillow as long as they have enough steel inside.

Why do you want to join the military?
 
NinRick said:
Pammy said:
Jack said:
1)Yes
2)Yes

Sorry, they don't accept people my size into the military. I did well in the written exam though. Took it for the sake of trying.

You may want a near-psychopath that will keep the secrets when the enemy got his pregnant wife and is willing to trade. You wouldn't want him or the boot camp commander to raise your children or take care of disabled/elderly people or provide psychological support to rape victims.

Civilization needs both type of people, cold steel and soft pillow. Everyone needs to be both to some extent or we would have psychopaths on one hand and the crybaby weaklings on the other hand. It's not wrong for someone to be a dominantly soft pillow as long as they have enough steel inside.

Why do you want to join the military?

I didn’t want to join. I wanted to see if I’m capable of joining. I lack the physical strenght to do so. You can take the exam once or twice in your life, when you are 18-19 so I wanted to try my chance.
 
Not everybody is always needing to act in a strong way. But every person needs to have the full ability to be strong so it can be used when they are in a situation that needs it. This is with physical strength when they are in a situation to defend themselves and defend their families. And it also is with mental strength and confidence which is a requirement for everybody. Every person needs to have the ability to talk to other people, to be able to explain things, and to be able to speak in front of a crowd. Or to speak to important or high ranking people and explain things to them. I know that many people are shy about this and feel like they can't do it, and I also used to have some of that. But that shyness is removed by practicing and by talking with many people you gain the confidence and ability to talk to anybody. I think that this is the most important thing because it is the key to everything in your life. Do you want to gain something? Are you being treated unfairly and want something to change? For your job or for your life, do you need to get somebody to agree with you and allow you to do something? Then you need to be able to speak and clearly and logically explain the situation. And if you are correct and you have good reasons, you will often get what you need.


Physical strength is also very important. I do not see this only as how heavy of a thing can you pick up, but more importantly what skills do you have and what things you are capable of doing. Can you build and fix things? Can you do carpentery, plumbing, and electrical work? Can you work on and repair machinery, tools, and vehicles? Can you do soldering and repair electronics? Can you maintain, repair, modify, and improve every part of your home and all of the equipment that you own? All of these things are necessary for any grown person to be able to do. And if you are not physically strong enough to do something, then get family or friend to help you. But you should still understand how it works and what is to be done. None of these things are difficult and you don't need to be a professional at any of these things to understand them. Most of these things are actually very simple and you will learn quickly if you have somebody who can show you. Which is easiest if it is a family or friend showing you personally, but there are also good videos on youtube showing how to do all of these things. And the single most important thing everybody needs to be good at is cooking, because everybody needs to eat. If you can't cook anything, you basically deserve to starve. This is not as hard as it looks, just like all of the other things you just need to practice.

There are tools that everybody needs to have some experience and understand how to use safely and comfortably. One of them is guns. Rifles, shotguns, and handguns. Everybody needs to have some practice and some comfortability with using these. All of the common action designs and control configurations, you should know exactly what all of the controls do and how to use them. You should know how to take them apart, clean them, and put them back together. And you need to have practice to know what they feel like and be comfortable and controllable. Look at Ukraine, do you think most of those citizens have ever used a gun before? But when one is given to them and they are forced to use it, there can not be any confusion or ignorance on what to do.

Everybody should have the ability to protect themselves and their families. Guns are especially most important for all women to be skilled with, because a gun allows the woman to protect herself and protect her children. There are no borders anymore for any White country, and all are being flooded with worthless violent criminal rapist animals. They do not have morals and they do not care, they are very happy to do evil things. The amount of rape, assault, beatings, and murders are all going up enormously. And 100% of all women are required to have the ability to protect herself and protect her children, and the gun is the tool that makes her as strong as a man and allows her to have a fair fight. But it only works if she has practiced and is comfortable with it.

Another important thing about guns is everybody should have the knowledge and the ability to know how to fish, and also to know how to hunt. It looks like in America the entire food supply chain is in the process of collapsing and it is only going to get worse. You need the ability to get your own food if you want to survive. Be sure you follow all local and state laws about fishing and hunting, that you buy the licenses and permits for fishing and hunting, and that you follow all laws about limits and seasons. If you do not follow these limits, you will deplete the population of that animal too far and will only be starving yourself in the future. But practice these things, learn about them, and learn what equipment is required and how to use that equipment. Fishing is the best to be able to get enough food for a few days very easily, and hunting larger things can feed your family for even a year. The main structure of the food supply that is collapsing in America is the meat supply, and it will be very difficult and very expensive to find any meat. But hunting one whitetail deer every year can give you 100-200 pounds of meat. Get a deep freezer, and this can be enough to feed you for more than a year. If you hunt 3 or 4 which you are allowed to in most places, this will feed your entire family for more than a year and you will not need to spend any money on meat. Also a very great idea to have chickens if you can do this. All you have to do is give them some bugs to eat, and you get free eggs every day. An egg has most of the nutrients that your body needs.

Every person needs to have the ability to be self-dependent in as many ways as possible. We are not helpless babies. The entire existence of life is for the purpose of being able to sustain yourself, and be able to sustain your family. And if you are not able to do anything in life, if you can't even feed yourself like a surprising number of people can't, then why should you exist?
 
Pammy said:
NinRick said:
Pammy said:
Sorry, they don't accept people my size into the military. I did well in the written exam though. Took it for the sake of trying.

You may want a near-psychopath that will keep the secrets when the enemy got his pregnant wife and is willing to trade. You wouldn't want him or the boot camp commander to raise your children or take care of disabled/elderly people or provide psychological support to rape victims.

Civilization needs both type of people, cold steel and soft pillow. Everyone needs to be both to some extent or we would have psychopaths on one hand and the crybaby weaklings on the other hand. It's not wrong for someone to be a dominantly soft pillow as long as they have enough steel inside.

Why do you want to join the military?

I didn’t want to join. I wanted to see if I’m capable of joining. I lack the physical strenght to do so. You can take the exam once or twice in your life, when you are 18-19 so I wanted to try my chance.

Oh I see, you were just curious.

Well, strength is not only physical, while men are usually physically stronger, women tend to have much better intuition, openness and are more into witchcraft, as the feminine part of the soul is more developed.

Keep working on your physical strength of course, but more importantly, work on your spiritual strength, become a powerful witch. This is your natural strength.
 
It should be in everyone's interest to be as strong as possible since the connection between strength and joy is crystal clear.
This goes for all kinds of strength. But it's up to everyone how strong and thus how happy they want to be. Many people seem to choose drinking beer instead of doing yoga on a Saturday evening and thus choose to be way unhappier than they could have been, and that's a shame. Especially for them.
 
NinRick said:

Oh I see, you were just curious.

Well, strength is not only physical, while men are usually physically stronger, women tend to have much better intuition, openness and are more into witchcraft, as the feminine part of the soul is more developed.

Keep working on your physical strength of course, but more importantly, work on your spiritual strength, become a powerful witch. This is your natural strength.

Yes. Thanks. I'm very eager about this.
 
NinRick said:
Pammy said:
NinRick said:
Why do you want to join the military?

I didn’t want to join. I wanted to see if I’m capable of joining. I lack the physical strenght to do so. You can take the exam once or twice in your life, when you are 18-19 so I wanted to try my chance.

Oh I see, you were just curious.

Well, strength is not only physical, while men are usually physically stronger, women tend to have much better intuition, openness and are more into witchcraft, as the feminine part of the soul is more developed.

Keep working on your physical strength of course, but more importantly, work on your spiritual strength, become a powerful witch. This is your natural strength.

I've been prone to witchcraft since I was little, does that mean my feminine part is strong ? (Btw No I'm man.)

my physical body is very suitable for sports (but I wasn't doing much because I was hard) and my body index is a little too developed compared to my peers. so I'm much taller than them compared to them and I look more mature than them. So am I abnormal or advanced?

(I've been thinking about this a lot lately and it's making me mentally tired)
 
Baroness Blossom said:
NinRick said:
Pammy said:
I didn’t want to join. I wanted to see if I’m capable of joining. I lack the physical strenght to do so. You can take the exam once or twice in your life, when you are 18-19 so I wanted to try my chance.

Oh I see, you were just curious.

Well, strength is not only physical, while men are usually physically stronger, women tend to have much better intuition, openness and are more into witchcraft, as the feminine part of the soul is more developed.

Keep working on your physical strength of course, but more importantly, work on your spiritual strength, become a powerful witch. This is your natural strength.

I've been prone to witchcraft since I was little, does that mean my feminine part is strong ? (Btw No I'm man.)

my physical body is very suitable for sports (but I wasn't doing much because I was hard) and my body index is a little too developed compared to my peers. so I'm much taller than them compared to them and I look more mature than them. So am I abnormal or advanced?

(I've been thinking about this a lot lately and it's making me mentally tired)

Most men who are here are more intuitive then the average man. Our feminine sides and parts of the soul are much more developed than that of the regular human.

I was trying to say that women are by default more intuitive than men, generally speaking.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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