Divine Feminine- what do you think it means?

[Soul Wings]

Lately, I am seeing a lot of media surrounding the divine feminine and what they think it means. A lot of crap from xianity and muslims.
Masculine = doing. Feminine = being.
A lot of women giving dating advice to other women to be passive and allow the man to approach, otherwise he will be in his "feminine energy" (passive).
To believe themselves so valuable that their time and energy is worth the man covering for entirely. If a man doesn't pay for you he doesn't believe in your worth.

I am unsure what to think on these matters because personally, I believe if I had never approached a man myself, I wouldn't have dated anybody in my life, or dated somebody that I wanted to. Most men you approach as a woman will say yes. Most men will pay half (or even in full) if you ask. Most guys that have approached me, I would not date.

I am also not entirely a traditionalist and not dating to start a family, I expect my man to ideally cover half expenses and half chores. As well as handle other things in life maturely. I expect him to have ambition, and other positive things, just as I do.

When I picture the Gods, they do not stand idly by and wait for good things. They take charge of their reality and we follow their lead.

What do you think? Do you agree, disagree? What is your personal experience with this?

 

[Korpi]

This may help.

On Women and Goddesses - HP. Hoodedcobra666
Goddesses; Lies; Feminism - Lydia [JG]

 

[Shadowcat]

This dating advice is simple cookie-cutter nonsense that wants to make one size fit all, based on an unnatural idea of sameness. First off the human soul regardless of whether being man or woman possesses masculine and feminine energy and some will be more organically dominant in one energy than the other and will usually attract someone else who is the opposite. Some women prefer what would be called a traditional feminine dating role while others do not fit so well into this. Men, depending on their own elemental makeup may or may not prefer this. Some find it refreshing and attractive if a woman takes initiative. It depends on the person.

 

[Epiphany]

Lately, I am seeing a lot of media surrounding the divine feminine and what they think it means. A lot of crap from xianity and muslims.
Masculine = doing. Feminine = being.
A lot of women giving dating advice to other women to be passive and allow the man to approach, otherwise he will be in his "feminine energy" (passive).
To believe themselves so valuable that their time and energy is worth the man covering for entirely. If a man doesn't pay for you he doesn't believe in your worth.

I am unsure what to think on these matters because personally, I believe if I had never approached a man myself, I wouldn't have dated anybody in my life, or dated somebody that I wanted to. Most men you approach as a woman will say yes. Most men will pay half (or even in full) if you ask. Most guys that have approached me, I would not date.

I am also not entirely a traditionalist and not dating to start a family, I expect my man to ideally cover half expenses and half chores. As well as handle other things in life maturely. I expect him to have ambition, and other positive things, just as I do.

When I picture the Gods, they do not stand idly by and wait for good things. They take charge of their reality and we follow their lead.

What do you think? Do you agree, disagree? What is your personal experience with this?

I think new age dating advice tries to assign alot of flowery language to behaviors & principles that do not necessarily mean what they think it means.

When I think of "divine feminine", I think of the energy that I felt when I did Astarte's ritual. Soft, kind, receptive, magnetic, inviting, gentle, graceful, loving and refined. Maternal. I think it's fair to say that the energy of Ares' ritual could be considered divine masculine. Honorable, dignified, secure, strong, steady, motivating, driven, guiding. Paternal. Especially considering that Astarte is Venus, and Ares is Mars. I believe the signs these planets are dignified in also reflect different parts of the spectrum of femininity and masculinity.

This dating advice is simple cookie-cutter nonsense that wants to make one size fit all, based on an unnatural idea of sameness. First off the human soul regardless of whether being man or woman possesses masculine and feminine energy and some will be more organically dominant in one energy than the other and will usually attract someone else who is the opposite. Some women prefer what would be called a traditional feminine dating role while others do not fit so well into this. Men, depending on their own elemental makeup may or may not prefer this. Some find it refreshing and attractive if a woman takes initiative. It depends on the person.

Adding onto this I think if there is genuine desire, especially on the part of women, then they will pursue a man. This could be in a direct or indirect way. Being feminine doesn't have to mean making men put in all the effort. One could be initiating, or one could be inviting. Both are active forms of pursuing a partner, only different approaches - electric or magnetic.

But I also think that the nature of the sexes is such that men will be resentful if they tend to take the backseat and women will be resentful if they tend to have to take the lead. Exceptions to this are uncommon.

 

[TheWhiteGiant]

This may help.

On Women and Goddesses - HP. Hoodedcobra666
Goddesses; Lies; Feminism - Lydia [JG]

Hello.
If im not mistaken, HP also wrote a similar post back in the old forums about divine masculinity, and also one or two on homosexuals. Do you have them? I can't seem to find them.
Would appreciate it if you can send me a link.

 

[Korpi]

Divine Masculinity - HP. Hoodedcobra666
How To Be A Man? - It's Actually Rather Simple [Update: Working Out?] - HP. Hoodedcobra666
To Young Men In The Forum - HP. Hoodedcobra666

 

[TheWhiteGiant]

Divine Masculinity - HP. Hoodedcobra666
How To Be A Man? - It's Actually Rather Simple [Update: Working Out?] - HP. Hoodedcobra666
To Young Men In The Forum - HP. Hoodedcobra666

Thank you very much.

 

[Missrainbow]

Lately, I am seeing a lot of media surrounding the divine feminine and what they think it means. A lot of crap from xianity and muslims.
Masculine = doing. Feminine = being.
A lot of women giving dating advice to other women to be passive and allow the man to approach, otherwise he will be in his "feminine energy" (passive).
To believe themselves so valuable that their time and energy is worth the man covering for entirely. If a man doesn't pay for you he doesn't believe in your worth.

I am unsure what to think on these matters because personally, I believe if I had never approached a man myself, I wouldn't have dated anybody in my life, or dated somebody that I wanted to. Most men you approach as a woman will say yes. Most men will pay half (or even in full) if you ask. Most guys that have approached me, I would not date.

I am also not entirely a traditionalist and not dating to start a family, I expect my man to ideally cover half expenses and half chores. As well as handle other things in life maturely. I expect him to have ambition, and other positive things, just as I do.

When I picture the Gods, they do not stand idly by and wait for good things. They take charge of their reality and we follow their lead.

What do you think? Do you agree, disagree? What is your personal experience with this?

We believe men and women have both energies.Both masculine and feminine.You can read it in the library section.
What social media is talking about is extremely unattractive and stupid.

Women should not ever get angrywomen should not votewomen should not have a right to get divorceRape should be allowed in marriagewomen should not workWomen should not have sex before marriage Women should not be smart Women should not be strongWomen should not talk Women should not wear pantsNo abortion rights even if you may die during giving birth or were rapedAll you have to do is to smile pretty and shut up

These stupid things are not femininity.These things are just worthlessness.Femininity doesnt mean be worthless and weak and stupid.

I believe there is a lot of useful and amazing sermons about this in Joy Of Satan's library section that could be more useful than what we can tell you.

 

[ScienceSerpent]

Interesting and helpful insights, everyone. I have made the mistake of false ideas in the past (trying to be "feminine" or thinking I was transgender because I couldn't keep myself in that box).

I was wondering, though, is it sometimes that "like attracts like" in relationships, that some people are attracted to those with a similar polarity of "masculine/feminine" (regardless of the sexes of the individuals)?

 

[Shadowcat]

Lately, I am seeing a lot of media surrounding the divine feminine and what they think it means. A lot of crap from xianity and muslims.
Masculine = doing. Feminine = being.
A lot of women giving dating advice to other women to be passive and allow the man to approach, otherwise he will be in his "feminine energy" (passive).
To believe themselves so valuable that their time and energy is worth the man covering for entirely. If a man doesn't pay for you he doesn't believe in your worth.

I am unsure what to think on these matters because personally, I believe if I had never approached a man myself, I wouldn't have dated anybody in my life, or dated somebody that I wanted to. Most men you approach as a woman will say yes. Most men will pay half (or even in full) if you ask. Most guys that have approached me, I would not date.

I am also not entirely a traditionalist and not dating to start a family, I expect my man to ideally cover half expenses and half chores. As well as handle other things in life maturely. I expect him to have ambition, and other positive things, just as I do.

When I picture the Gods, they do not stand idly by and wait for good things. They take charge of their reality and we follow their lead.

What do you think? Do you agree, disagree? What is your personal experience with this?

We believe men and women have both energies.Both masculine and feminine.You can read it in the library section.
What social media is talking about is extremely unattractive and stupid.

Women should not ever get angrywomen should not votewomen should not have a right to get divorceRape should be allowed in marriagewomen should not workWomen should not have sex before marriage Women should not be smart Women should not be strongWomen should not talk Women should not wear pantsNo abortion rights even if you may die during giving birth or were rapedAll you have to do is to smile pretty and shut up

These stupid things are not femininity.These things are just worthlessness.Femininity doesnt mean be worthless and weak and stupid.

I believe there is a lot of useful and amazing sermons about this in Joy Of Satan's library section that could be more useful than what we can tell you.

There is also a specific sermon that talks about the Ida and pingala polarities of the human soul (masculine /feminine) and how some women are naturally more of a pingala nature and some men more of an Ida nature.

It will not always correlate with their courting or sexual behaviors or preferences but 90 to 95 percent of the time it does. In other words masculine women will want femininity. If she is straight she will want a feminine man or if she is bi she will prefer femininity in both sexes most of the time. Vice versa for men. The preferences and manifestations of this can range widely. The love life and daily life can be different too.

It's insane how xtian programming has brainwashed people so much. If it weren't for it I would have discovered and accepted certain things about me much sooner and I might have been saved alot of head and heartache. I grew up always having a predominant masculine disposition and it is also to be heard in my voice and seen in my face. I felt naturally attracted to feminine men most of the time.

There came a time however (and a certain someone was no help...) Where I felt pressured from several sources including myself to present and act more feminine. I thought I was supposed to and I thought this made me happy , also because I thought it would attract they type of man i for a time thought i wanted as a result (someone not so feminine but I clashed with them always, crushes and even an ex. Due to being too "manly"). I felt that this was expected of me and I had to live up. I tried growing my hair longer to hide my strong jawline and broad shoulders....and did so poorly. It didn't hide my harsh facial features either. And no matter what I failed hard at coming across as naturally feminine even in my voice, getting mistaken for "sir". 100 percent of the time.

People even when I dressed and tried to act feminine commented on how manly my face looked or how i behaved. It got to the point where i felt such self hatred and useless as a female and even had fleeting thoughts of just wanting to ...be gone. It hurt that bad. I wanted to go to the point almost of changing my voice with surgery. I realized after a time that I was trying to be something I was not and it was making me go insane almost.

After a sun square in the spring for self awareness and identity a massive manifestation happened. Something I have actually been quite preoccupied with. I realized something about me and my own preferences and my own natural tendencies and as a result I stopped trying to hide the things I should have just been amplifying. I have always had dominant pingala energy and this even manifests in my appearance. As comfortable and happy as I am with my female body and always will be, i can now also accept and be happy that this is naturally also part of me...and the people i do feel attracted to that have what I lack will like me back for it too. This revelation has helped me accept myself on another level and several sermons that relate to such topics that I found also were a huge help.

If you are a masculine female or a feminine man don't have self hate. There are people who will be attracted to you and want to be around you because you have things they don't and vice versa. Just like any other person. You are who you are and discovering the dominant polarity of your soul is like learning weather you are born left or right handed. It also doesn't make you homo or bi automatically but if this is one of the natural manifestations in you organically this is totally fine too, as long as you aren't making a point to follow some degenerate fad.

Look at trans people for example. *Cough* jewish shit.

They are even a statement in it self that the opposite gender is some how "wrong" for having more of the other energy which is of course nonsense. (and even goes against most queer views about not conforming to gender as it is LOL muh wrong body and cut muh dick off cus men are supposed to be men and women supposed to be feminine! Wat??) Ye insane much.

 

[Soul Wings]

Huh, I had a similar experience growing up actually. I guess you could have called me a tomboy?
Forcing myself to do anything I didn't want to do never worked out for me well either. I did however pick up some new skills associated with femininity like makeup and it's incredibly powerful/transformative. I can use it for magic work (glamour) as well.
I just think people are so much hotter when they accept who they are and are so genuine to that. I bet you are a force to be reckoned with

 

[Missrainbow]

Lately, I am seeing a lot of media surrounding the divine feminine and what they think it means. A lot of crap from xianity and muslims.
Masculine = doing. Feminine = being.
A lot of women giving dating advice to other women to be passive and allow the man to approach, otherwise he will be in his "feminine energy" (passive).
To believe themselves so valuable that their time and energy is worth the man covering for entirely. If a man doesn't pay for you he doesn't believe in your worth.

I am unsure what to think on these matters because personally, I believe if I had never approached a man myself, I wouldn't have dated anybody in my life, or dated somebody that I wanted to. Most men you approach as a woman will say yes. Most men will pay half (or even in full) if you ask. Most guys that have approached me, I would not date.

I am also not entirely a traditionalist and not dating to start a family, I expect my man to ideally cover half expenses and half chores. As well as handle other things in life maturely. I expect him to have ambition, and other positive things, just as I do.

When I picture the Gods, they do not stand idly by and wait for good things. They take charge of their reality and we follow their lead.

What do you think? Do you agree, disagree? What is your personal experience with this?

We believe men and women have both energies.Both masculine and feminine.You can read it in the library section.
What social media is talking about is extremely unattractive and stupid.

Women should not ever get angrywomen should not votewomen should not have a right to get divorceRape should be allowed in marriagewomen should not workWomen should not have sex before marriage Women should not be smart Women should not be strongWomen should not talk Women should not wear pantsNo abortion rights even if you may die during giving birth or were rapedAll you have to do is to smile pretty and shut up

These stupid things are not femininity.These things are just worthlessness.Femininity doesnt mean be worthless and weak and stupid.

I believe there is a lot of useful and amazing sermons about this in Joy Of Satan's library section that could be more useful than what we can tell you.

There is also a specific sermon that talks about the Ida and pingala polarities of the human soul (masculine /feminine) and how some women are naturally more of a pingala nature and some men more of an Ida nature.

It will not always correlate with their courting or sexual behaviors or preferences but 90 to 95 percent of the time it does. In other words masculine women will want femininity. If she is straight she will want a feminine man or if she is bi she will prefer femininity in both sexes most of the time. Vice versa for men. The preferences and manifestations of this can range widely. The love life and daily life can be different too.

It's insane how xtian programming has brainwashed people so much. If it weren't for it I would have discovered and accepted certain things about me much sooner and I might have been saved alot of head and heartache. I grew up always having a predominant masculine disposition and it is also to be heard in my voice and seen in my face. I felt naturally attracted to feminine men most of the time.

There came a time however (and a certain someone was no help...) Where I felt pressured from several sources including myself to present and act more feminine. I thought I was supposed to and I thought this made me happy , also because I thought it would attract they type of man i for a time thought i wanted as a result (someone not so feminine but I clashed with them always, crushes and even an ex. Due to being too "manly"). I felt that this was expected of me and I had to live up. I tried growing my hair longer to hide my strong jawline and broad shoulders....and did so poorly. It didn't hide my harsh facial features either. And no matter what I failed hard at coming across as naturally feminine even in my voice, getting mistaken for "sir". 100 percent of the time.

People even when I dressed and tried to act feminine commented on how manly my face looked or how i behaved. It got to the point where i felt such self hatred and useless as a female and even had fleeting thoughts of just wanting to ...be gone. It hurt that bad. I wanted to go to the point almost of changing my voice with surgery. I realized after a time that I was trying to be something I was not and it was making me go insane almost.

After a sun square in the spring for self awareness and identity a massive manifestation happened. Something I have actually been quite preoccupied with. I realized something about me and my own preferences and my own natural tendencies and as a result I stopped trying to hide the things I should have just been amplifying. I have always had dominant pingala energy and this even manifests in my appearance. As comfortable and happy as I am with my female body and always will be, i can now also accept and be happy that this is naturally also part of me...and the people i do feel attracted to that have what I lack will like me back for it too. This revelation has helped me accept myself on another level and several sermons that relate to such topics that I found also were a huge help.

If you are a masculine female or a feminine man don't have self hate. There are people who will be attracted to you and want to be around you because you have things they don't and vice versa. Just like any other person. You are who you are and discovering the dominant polarity of your soul is like learning weather you are born left or right handed. It also doesn't make you homo or bi automatically but if this is one of the natural manifestations in you organically this is totally fine too, as long as you aren't making a point to follow some degenerate fad.

Look at trans people for example. *Cough* jewish shit.

They are even a statement in it self that the opposite gender is some how "wrong" for having more of the other energy which is of course nonsense. (and even goes against most queer views about not conforming to gender as it is LOL muh wrong body and cut muh dick off cus men are supposed to be men and women supposed to be feminine! Wat??) Ye insane much.

Exactly Shadowcat Im happy you could find this place

I believe because of abrahamic shit every woman is suffering.People think women who are naturally smart should pretend to be stupid.
I personally get so much hate when I outsmart other people and the last thing they can say is that you dont have any femininity
We have an idiot in our relatives who has been trying to get me married since I was 15 because she thinks when a girl is smart she will be out of control and bring shame to her family.

She is as stupid as a potato and is living a happy life because of that
Now if I want to screw this bitch everyone will play "not so feminine and polite" card for me.

 

[Henu the Great]

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Now that you have figured yourself out I am pretty confident you have no trouble finding a suitable partner, much less if you decide to use magick for that goal as well.

 

[Shadowcat]

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Now that you have figured yourself out I am pretty confident you have no trouble finding a suitable partner, much less if you decide to use magick for that goal as well.

Thank you henu . Work in progress.

 

[Shadowcat]

Huh, I had a similar experience growing up actually. I guess you could have called me a tomboy?
Forcing myself to do anything I didn't want to do never worked out for me well either. I did however pick up some new skills associated with femininity like makeup and it's incredibly powerful/transformative. I can use it for magic work (glamour) as well.
I just think people are so much hotter when they accept who they are and are so genuine to that. I bet you are a force to be reckoned with

That's exactly how I grew up.
I do wear some minimal make up and sometimes nail polish but for the most part I'm butch af :lol:

Make up is nice in good taste and should be used to enhance not hide. I talked to a girl not too long ago who looked beautiful at first glance but her face was caked in foundation. Sure enough it hid alot of sun damage. IPL ftw .

 

[General Yeager]

Divine Feminine and Masculine are just concepts that are allegories used to explain a Spiritual process.

It is basically the explanation of Duality and the Union of Opposites. Ida and Pigala ,Right brain and left brain ,Shiva and Shakti ,Energy and Consciousness. And an infinite number of things.

They don't refer to actual males and females. The Ancient peoples just took the very basic act of Sex between a man and a woman and used it to explain the Yogic process.

You can only be Divine by Yogic processes and not anything else.

Basic Masculinity and Femininity are social behaviors associated with the different genders because of their differences. They just refer to averages and not absolutes.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

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Now that you have figured yourself out I am pretty confident you have no trouble finding a suitable partner, much less if you decide to use magick for that goal as well.

Thank you henu . Work in progress.

I remember you mentioned to have a relationship with a demon couple?

 

[Shadowcat]

Now that you have figured yourself out I am pretty confident you have no trouble finding a suitable partner, much less if you decide to use magick for that goal as well.

Thank you henu . Work in progress.

I remember you mentioned to have a relationship with a demon couple?

Noooo. I've never been polyamorous. I did a ritual to asked to be brought up for a Demon that I then attempted to relate to. Then something happened and I thought it was them showing themself to me in a different way. But this was simply minds way of showing me something that was suppressed and always there...although I do believe the Gods might have helped lead me to this, as before I started to notice something something happened the night before. And I wondered if it had to do with the ritual I had done. As if I was being shown the answer to something that I myself wasn't recognizing.

In the past when i did this ritual when I got something mixed up withy guardian (which happened for a different reason entirely although at first misinterpreted) I had a recurring dream with a woman holding me. Something in my mind in the dream and when I woke felt like being told "this is more suited to you" but I bulked at it at first. I remember looking at Satan's sigil as I woke repeating frantically I'm not gay I'm not gay! Looks like I lied to myself. 99% anyway. 1 percent of men can be the exception. But most of them are gay.

The Gods know us better than ourselves. Satan will not pair us with someone who he knows will probly not match us or he might want us to become more aware of certain aspects of ourselves first which makes us even better in the long run if we are actually to have something like this so that we may contemplate much better what we want and need when enough dross clears.

This felt like the answer to my ritual when I asked to be brought up for a Demon. The answer is not always a default yes. And for good reason.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Thank you henu . Work in progress.

I remember you mentioned to have a relationship with a demon couple?

Noooo. I've never been polyamorous. I did a ritual to asked to be brought up for a Demon that I then attempted to relate to. Then something happened and I thought it was them showing themself to me in a different way. But this was simply minds way of showing me something that was suppressed and always there...although I do believe the Gods might have helped lead me to this, as before I started to notice something something happened the night before. And I wondered if it had to do with the ritual I had done. As if I was being shown the answer to something that I myself wasn't recognizing.

In the past when i did this ritual when I got something mixed up withy guardian (which happened for a different reason entirely although at first misinterpreted) I had a recurring dream with a woman holding me. Something in my mind in the dream and when I woke felt like being told "this is more suited to you" but I bulked at it at first. I remember looking at Satan's sigil as I woke repeating frantically I'm not gay I'm not gay! Looks like I lied to myself. 99% anyway. 1 percent of men can be the exception. But most of them are gay.

The Gods know us better than ourselves. Satan will not pair us with someone who he knows will probly not match us or he might want us to become more aware of certain aspects of ourselves first which makes us even better in the long run if we are actually to have something like this so that we may contemplate much better what we want and need when enough dross clears.

This felt like the answer to my ritual when I asked to be brought up for a Demon. The answer is not always a default yes. And for good reason.

As I me, the gods sent me signals for a long time that a certain person she was not suitable for me as a couple and now I have been confirmed that I have a soulmate of past lives, but I also have to solve blockages and problems of self -esteem, for example I have never seen myself attractive.

 

[Shadowcat]

Divine Feminine and Masculine are just concepts that are allegories used to explain a Spiritual process.

It is basically the explanation of Duality and the Union of Opposites. Ida and Pigala ,Right brain and left brain ,Shiva and Shakti ,Energy and Consciousness. And an infinite number of things.

They don't refer to actual males and females. The Ancient peoples just took the very basic act of Sex between a man and a woman and used it to explain the Yogic process.

You can only be Divine by Yogic processes and not anything else.

Basic Masculinity and Femininity are social behaviors associated with the different genders because of their differences. They just refer to averages and not absolutes.

Look up and read "sexuality and the metaphysical" in Satan's Library.

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

You cannot make ants behave like birds. You cannot make a mushroom behave like a tree. You cannot make a horse behave like a human. You may do these things for 5 minutes, but in the end, each and everyone of humans on this planet, even if in death, will touch and revert back to what they instinctually are.

You cannot cheat nature or lie for too long to her, as she will teach back and show you.

Femininity has vectors and is archetypal and ever-lasting in the portrayal of and in nature, as well as masculinity.

If and what one lacks inside of them as instinct, what one chooses to do with their faculty of freedom and choice, what one receives back from nature and reacts, is their imprint and decision. But behind all of these, some forces are ever-lasting, that can be used and be made in forms and individual existences. Yet always about the core and never too far away.

First, people have to become humans so we judge nature justly and then we might get a glimpse of divine, hoping we will not be blinded away by the grace of it.