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GoldenxChild1

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I started a Mars square today. About half way through I got tongue tied on BHAUMAYA. Basically what happened was instead of going BBBBAAAHHH I went BBBBUUU, but I stopped immediately when I realized my error and did it as instructed.

To be clear I was like "AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BUUU- stop and redo to - BHAUMAYA SVAHA

It still felt powerful when I continued but idk.

Any help would be great so i don't risk wasting time.
 
Hs666 said:
If you have not programmed energy, wait a few hours, and restart. Otherwise it is neccesary to start the work again.

Oh wow I'm surprised, it was a such a small mistake. Your absolutely positive? I never actually finished the mispronunciation.

That sucks, it was a for health too.
 
Hs666 said:
If you have not programmed energy, wait a few hours, and restart. Otherwise it is neccesary to start the work again.

I guess there is always next week
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
I started a Mars square today. About half way through I got tongue tied on BHAUMAYA. Basically what happened was instead of going BBBBAAAHHH I went BBBBUUU, but I stopped immediately when I realized my error and did it as instructed.

To be clear I was like "AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BUUU- stop and redo to - BHAUMAYA SVAHA

It still felt powerful when I continued but idk.

Any help would be great so i don't risk wasting time.

You didn't ruin it as long as you didn't say AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BHAUMAYA.. BHAUMAYA SVAHA.

BUHH or any random word does not disrupt a Square (as long as it isn't also AUM, KRAAM, KRIM, KRAUM, SVAHA, NAMAH or some other planet name repeated, obviously).
 
Karnonnos said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I started a Mars square today. About half way through I got tongue tied on BHAUMAYA. Basically what happened was instead of going BBBBAAAHHH I went BBBBUUU, but I stopped immediately when I realized my error and did it as instructed.

To be clear I was like "AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BUUU- stop and redo to - BHAUMAYA SVAHA

It still felt powerful when I continued but idk.

Any help would be great so i don't risk wasting time.

You didn't ruin it as long as you didn't say AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BHAUMAYA.. BHAUMAYA SVAHA.

BUHH or any random word does not disrupt a Square (as long as it isn't also AUM, KRAAM, KRIM, KRAUM, SVAHA, NAMAH or some other planet name repeated, obviously).

BY THE GODS my GD was right. I thought I was talking to myself. No, on my word, it was Buu--stop and correct to Bhaumaya svaha
 
Karnonnos said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I started a Mars square today. About half way through I got tongue tied on BHAUMAYA. Basically what happened was instead of going BBBBAAAHHH I went BBBBUUU, but I stopped immediately when I realized my error and did it as instructed.

To be clear I was like "AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BUUU- stop and redo to - BHAUMAYA SVAHA

It still felt powerful when I continued but idk.

Any help would be great so i don't risk wasting time.

You didn't ruin it as long as you didn't say AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BHAUMAYA.. BHAUMAYA SVAHA.

BUHH or any random word does not disrupt a Square (as long as it isn't also AUM, KRAAM, KRIM, KRAUM, SVAHA, NAMAH or some other planet name repeated, obviously).

Bro you are the MAN. The GOAT. I was so scared that I might suck at squares, because my tongue or throat flubbles around at times so I thought sqaures would be hard for me to do. Thank you for this answer, now I can raise energies with my squares in peace. YOU THE MAN BRO. You killed my doubts.
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
Hs666 said:
If you have not programmed energy, wait a few hours, and restart. Otherwise it is neccesary to start the work again.

Oh wow I'm surprised, it was a such a small mistake. Your absolutely positive? I never actually finished the mispronunciation.

That sucks, it was a for health too.

Yes, i'm sure. My advice is to repeat today vibration a few hours later.

Focus is very important in this work.
 
Karnonnos said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I started a Mars square today. About half way through I got tongue tied on BHAUMAYA. Basically what happened was instead of going BBBBAAAHHH I went BBBBUUU, but I stopped immediately when I realized my error and did it as instructed.

To be clear I was like "AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BUUU- stop and redo to - BHAUMAYA SVAHA

It still felt powerful when I continued but idk.

Any help would be great so i don't risk wasting time.

You didn't ruin it as long as you didn't say AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BHAUMAYA.. BHAUMAYA SVAHA.

BUHH or any random word does not disrupt a Square (as long as it isn't also AUM, KRAAM, KRIM, KRAUM, SVAHA, NAMAH or some other planet name repeated, obviously).
It is good to know
 
Hs666 said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
Hs666 said:
If you have not programmed energy, wait a few hours, and restart. Otherwise it is neccesary to start the work again.

Oh wow I'm surprised, it was a such a small mistake. Your absolutely positive? I never actually finished the mispronunciation.

That sucks, it was a for health too.

Yes, i'm sure. My advice is to repeat today vibration a few hours later.

Focus is very important in this work.

I didnt mess up the square according to Karnonnos, and I trust his judgement. Also, I believe my GD gave me the go ahead . I already completed day two.

I agree, focus is important for squares.
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
I didnt mess up the square according to Karnonnos, and I trust his judgement. Also, I believe my GD gave me the go ahead . I already completed day two.

I agree, focus is important for squares.

Yes. But in this way, the power of work is decreased. This work, is advanced, beacuse it is not easy, as it seems.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
As long as you did everything correctly the correct number of times, you are good. You can ignore any extra sound you did by accident. It will work perfectly fine. You don't have to wait any time or start over.

Thanks Ol
 
Karnonnos said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I started a Mars square today. About half way through I got tongue tied on BHAUMAYA. Basically what happened was instead of going BBBBAAAHHH I went BBBBUUU, but I stopped immediately when I realized my error and did it as instructed.

To be clear I was like "AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BUUU- stop and redo to - BHAUMAYA SVAHA

It still felt powerful when I continued but idk.

Any help would be great so i don't risk wasting time.

You didn't ruin it as long as you didn't say AUM KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BHAUMAYA.. BHAUMAYA SVAHA.

BUHH or any random word does not disrupt a Square (as long as it isn't also AUM, KRAAM, KRIM, KRAUM, SVAHA, NAMAH or some other planet name repeated, obviously).

If I'm using a square let's say...

Can I separately still use the planet mantras for strengthening chakras outside of the square simultaneously?
Like let's say I do a Mars square for strength...

But I also simultaneously use only the word BHAUMAYA 50 reps to strengthen my sacral everyday... is that okay? Not the full square mantra, just that one word.
 
The Phantom Stranger said:
If I'm using a square let's say...

Can I separately still use the planet mantras for strengthening chakras outside of the square simultaneously?
Like let's say I do a Mars square for strength...

But I also simultaneously use only the word BHAUMAYA 50 reps to strengthen my sacral everyday... is that okay? Not the full square mantra, just that one word.

Yes, you can do that. I did that with BUDHAYA x 40 for one purpose and the Mercury Square for another purpose at the same time.

Just don't add AUM, the seed mantras or NAMAH or SVAHA afterwards when vibrating the planet name. If you do that then the Square is ruined.
 
Karnonnos said:
Yes, you can do that. I did that with BUDHAYA x 40 for one purpose and the Mercury Square for another purpose at the same time.

Just don't add AUM, the seed mantras or NAMAH or SVAHA afterwards when vibrating the planet name. If you do that then the Square is ruined.

I was told that I can still use the single planetary words like BHAUMAYA on sacral chakra even if the planet is in its detriment or fall. Why is this allowed for the single words, but not for the full square?

Aren't the planetary words also affected by planet positions?
 
The Phantom Stranger said:
I was told that I can still use the single planetary words like BHAUMAYA on sacral chakra even if the planet is in its detriment or fall. Why is this allowed for the single words, but not for the full square?

Aren't the planetary words also affected by planet positions?

The Squares, including the shorter Saturn and Jupiter Squares (do not be fooled by their length), summon truly gigantic amounts of energy, with the fall and detriment being applied in antagonism to where the planet is comfortable, this can go seriously wrong due to the way things function on that level of power.

AUM, SVAHA and NAMAH all have very distinct functions in terms of how the energy is applied. The seed mantras also add a a significant amount of power, but the shortened version without them still summons two thirds to three quarters of that gargantuan level of energy.

The planet name alone, just like SURYA, has power but is nowhere near that strong. It's the same reason why a match stick failing and a rocket failing with the wrong type of support (Astrologically or otherwise) is going to have different outcomes. Using the full mantra without the Square, however, is somewhere inbetween.

I should also add that any idiot acting as if Tropical Astrology is 'wrong' and that Sidereal is valid for these purposes is going have a pretty nasty experience sometimes starting what they think is a planet in domicile when it is actually in fall or detriment...
 
Karnonnos said:
The Phantom Stranger said:
I was told that I can still use the single planetary words like BHAUMAYA on sacral chakra even if the planet is in its detriment or fall. Why is this allowed for the single words, but not for the full square?

Aren't the planetary words also affected by planet positions?

The Squares, including the shorter Saturn and Jupiter Squares (do not be fooled by their length), summon truly gigantic amounts of energy, with the fall and detriment being applied in antagonism to where the planet is comfortable, this can go seriously wrong due to the way things function on that level of power.

AUM, SVAHA and NAMAH all have very distinct functions in terms of how the energy is applied. The seed mantras also add a a significant amount of power, but the shortened version without them still summons two thirds to three quarters of that gargantuan level of energy.

The planet name alone, just like SURYA, has power but is nowhere near that strong. It's the same reason why a match stick failing and a rocket failing with the wrong type of support (Astrologically or otherwise) is going to have different outcomes. Using the full mantra without the Square, however, is somewhere inbetween.


Brother I failed mars square two times but I will begin again around Nov 14th when Moon enters scorpio and waxing, which should be double boost right because Mars is also in scorpio?

I have this anxiety I feel when doing squares, thinking back it seems like, doing squares brings all dirt to the surface that's why I feel anxiety. The anxiety goes something along "The square is not working, the pronounciation is wrong" - etc etc those kinds of thoughts enter my mind

Right now I'm having anxiety because the last time when I stopped after some reps in using the Mars square, thoughts like "The square doesn't work/Mars square is cancelled" kept plaguing me, and I wonder if this worked as an unwanted affirmation or directing of energy.

As in, because I thought "The square doesn't work/Mars square is cancelled" so did this affirmation/thought make it so that the squares never work for me? Is that possible? Like you get what I mean, I affirmed/thought something I didn't want, will it be applied into reality? because my energies were raised even though I didn't finish the square, and since you said its a gargantuan amount of energy, even if only a fraction because I didn't complete it, does this mean I am barred from using squares? Would something like that be manifested from doubts?

Idk how to explain it well, but its just these doubts that plague me when doing squares.
 

Also does repeated invocation of an energy make it build up on your soul? Because HPS Maxine wrote to increase the elements just breathe in earth/air/water/fire/ether and either hold to progress fast, or breathe them out to progress slower but safer.

Does this apply to colour as well? Like repeatedly breathing in red, blue or orange? So will simply vibrating a square build its energy in me? Does it matter if I use the SVAHAH(spiritual) or NAMAH(material) version of square? Will both of them build their energy in me, same like breathing in elements?
 
The Phantom Stranger said:
Idk how to explain it well, but its just these doubts that plague me when doing squares.
You are likely not ready to begin working with squares, but if you insist on working with planetary energy, then the Mars mantra alone is an option as well.
 
Henu the Great said:
The Phantom Stranger said:
Idk how to explain it well, but its just these doubts that plague me when doing squares.
You are likely not ready to begin working with squares, but if you insist on working with planetary energy, then the Mars mantra alone is an option as well.

I feel like I can do it... With just enough motivation. Its not world shattering doubt.

Like kind of like void meditation, but like an itch is trying to distract you. So not too hard.
 
The Phantom Stranger said:
I feel like I can do it... With just enough motivation. Its not world shattering doubt.

Like kind of like void meditation, but like an itch is trying to distract you. So not too hard.
It is one thing wanting to do something, and another being capable of doing something. You are still a beginner in the areas of controlling your mind and working with magick (awareness). The smart move would have been to choose the mantra as a working from the get-go which means you would be on the fourth week of working at this moment instead of having doubts and issues related to emotional control and thus having to scrap the progress twice...

It might not be a world-shattering doubt, I agree, but here you are asking about the issue and having a stall in progress. There has to be confidence and willpower, not mere motivation. Motivation can act as a good stepping stone, but discipline is the result-bringer.

Regarding confidence. It comes as a result of practice while acquiring theoretical knowledge acts as a cornerstone. Preparation before action. And yes, mistakes happen and are allowed. Yet, at the same time, would it not be best to minimize them?

Other than planetary mantras, there exist also layers of other venues for personal development. Perhaps not as flashy and alluring for a newbie, but equally as important, if not more important, considering the dire need for the structure of construction and confidence as a result of knowing what and when to do. Without a foundation, it is not possible to build a lasting structure.

Food for thought.
 
Henu the Great said:
The Phantom Stranger said:
I feel like I can do it... With just enough motivation. Its not world shattering doubt.

Like kind of like void meditation, but like an itch is trying to distract you. So not too hard.
It is one thing wanting to do something, and another being capable of doing something. You are still a beginner in the areas of controlling your mind and working with magick (awareness). The smart move would have been to choose the mantra as a working from the get-go which means you would be on the fourth week of working at this moment instead of having doubts and issues related to emotional control and thus having to scrap the progress twice...

It might not be a world-shattering doubt, I agree, but here you are asking about the issue and having a stall in progress. There has to be confidence and willpower, not mere motivation. Motivation can act as a good stepping stone, but discipline is the result-bringer.

Regarding confidence. It comes as a result of practice while acquiring theoretical knowledge acts as a cornerstone. Preparation before action. And yes, mistakes happen and are allowed. Yet, at the same time, would it not be best to minimize them?

Other than planetary mantras, there exist also layers of other venues for personal development. Perhaps not as flashy and alluring for a newbie, but equally as important, if not more important, considering the dire need for the structure of construction and confidence as a result of knowing what and when to do. Without a foundation, it is not possible to build a lasting structure.

Food for thought.

Thank you for your answer.
 

Tbh I made the post so that Karnonnos can motivate me.

I think the solution is very simple, just believe that the square works and it will work. I don't need him to tell me that. But...

I just want to hear some words of motivation from him since I like him.

Because last time I quit sun square, someone here motivated me to do it, and I got back to it.

I'm a weird guy right 😂
 
The Phantom Stranger said:
Tbh I made the post so that Karnonnos can motivate me.

I think the solution is very simple, just believe that the square works and it will work. I don't need him to tell me that. But...

I just want to hear some words of motivation from him since I like him.

Because last time I quit sun square, someone here motivated me to do it, and I got back to it.

I'm a weird guy right 😂
Sounds like you lack willpower and discipline. Attributes that are generally associated with Saturn and Mars. Mind you, working with runes is a good alternative to planetary mantras for attaining a boost to these attributes. Willpower can be trained with single-pointed focusing practices, and and both of the above qualities can also be cultivated through other aspects of the 8-fold path, such as through Asanas.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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