GD. said:
High ranking demons as lovers do not have this little of probability to happen, there are thousands (or maybe more) of high ranking demons, even with sigils, whom are not on the main site, their name isn't even anywhere on the Internet, as I know about mine. Or maybe I and Charlotte do really match in that 0,1%. [/quote]
Guess I couldn't agree more.
We have still very limited information today, although we still have a lot more than all those idiots who won't look for knowledge and FIND the JoS (very probably the Gods will guide people to it, like I'm sure they did me the same year the JoS was created), and it's true that there are certainly who knows how many other Gods we don't even know about yet. I was just in the past few days browsing the "More Gods" page in the JoS as I felt a connection with some Demon I couldn't find anywhere anymore.. not sure what happened to the page, if the name was used differently or whatnot, but it strongly feels like the list has got miles to go yet. Just looking at the non Goetic list and the various offices those Demons rule it makes me wonder how many others have mastered the same or more skills and teach them to those that feel drawn or are talented in those areas.
There certainly are a lot of Gods (if not all or almost) that value relationships with Humans. They did create us after all, and I know for a fact that they think of us with a lot of love and affection, MUCH more than most (or all) Humans around us are even capable of.
To call this beautiful possibility (in the face of all the proof we have already) 'delusional', in my opinion is equal to not fully understanding Spiritual Satanism.
On the other hand, reality can apparently change so many times before we become aware of something that is a fact, it's possible to get lost between all the information and certainly the enemy illusions that are there merely to stop us from realizing truths.
GD. said:
I do see this type of thinking of his firstly unhealthy, then somehow else. Some people wouldn't want to accept anything that may be of help, not only for them but for other people involved, if it doesn't match what they learned.
This, in my opinion, may be a mentality similar to that of christians, as I am surrounded by them is a thing I could observe closely. They wouldn't let go of what they learned.
To be perfectly honest, I used to be like that. But this was mostly when I was very new. While this surely came from my deepest gratitude to the miracle HPS Maxine did for us all and it made me filter out everything that "wasn't JoS", I later learned that there was a gray area and I should have let some information get through, or else I would have always run into a wall, not seeing the wall coming at me full speed while I ignored the information begging me for attention.
In time, through experience, we realize what we once thought impossible is not impossible at all. Does believing that this might happen make one delusional? Not at all, if anything it indicates wisdom and the ability to evolve past our own limits.
Xtians' blindness is a perfect example of how a set of "rules" can make one completely unable to perceive other possibilities. Waving proof in their face is futile too, they won't see it. It's sad that some Spiritual Satanists are similarly minded.
GD. said:
I don't want to say it's the case of our brother/sister, Aquarius, of course, as I don't know him/her personally, I bet every legit satanist here is an incredible person, but I said there are cases, I do not care if this is one of them, as advancing, people learn, no matter how, but they do.
In the year I've been part of this Forum I can say I learned Aquarius likes to say the word "delusional" a lot, and mostly I have read this whenever someone commented about their own experience regarding intimate encounters with Goetic Demons. I know this happened to me too, so I feel this topic rather close.
I guess we can only hope that, in the end, everyone is going to live through the same experiences (in their own time), so that what one knows as absolute fact won't be perceived as a lie or an impossibility by those that haven't seen, witnessed or performed something godlike.
GD. said:
If I experienced something, and tell a person, like in this situation, saying that an advice may help a lot more than if you say a percentage and call a scholar girl delusional instead of helping, and I say how this experience went, and that it's past years now and nothing has changed between me and my lover, with the only response being that above which I quoted, what is the logic behind this?
I guess in a few words, this would only be logic to someone who has chosen not to embrace the possibility of that happening. By blocking out something that we cannot yet or merely don't want to believe, we stop that reality from ever becoming true.
This is probably very analogous to all those that have powerful Souls and have tried some psychic abilities with no success at all, and reached the point of believing that either they are incapable of such ability completely or that "there is no such skill" and they're wasting their time trying to learn it. The thing is, these people may have power, but lack conviction and belief that something will happen. They enter a challenge but accept defeat before the challenge has even started. That is no mindset for war. If you enter war like that, you'll be utterly defeated.
Same policy goes for anything one may perceive and one may not. It's not a matter of "chance" or number of tries... it (probably) has only to do with one's mindset and belief system. "Whether you believe you can or you can't, either way you're right." If one doesn't believe Telekinesis is possible, they'll NEVER accomplish it.
In my experience this isn't something that one can just solve in a day or two... if you couldn't do TK before but then you suddenly accept the idea that you can learn it and manage to have success to a degree, that's great, but it won't automatically mean that you can have an intimate relationship with a High Ranking God/Goddess.. and vice versa, having an High Ranking lover doesn't make you immediately capable of moving objects or starting fires with your mind.
Everything needs to be accessed individually and accepted as another part of one's reality. What is ignored will stay impossible.
This at least is what I learned by myself, looking at the change in skill in my own experiences.
GD. said:
I only found myself in a single relationship with a gentile, but my incubus was secretly making sure we do not get too far and that the guy leaves as soon as possible, which I love.
About my incubus, when I first saw Him with my third eye, I could only see light, his body shape was defined, but I saw a very bright body made of orange light who was sitting next to me, being very comfortable, after about a year from when he showed me he's my lover. He is tall (about 200cm), I saw this when he was standing close to a door and he was taller than it, very big muscle structure, he has dark blonde, curly hair and light coloured eyes, blue, and very defined, sharp, face. I am not good at portrayal, but this is pretty much how I saw he looks. He never came to my dreams.
From the look of things, it seems to me like your incubus knew best, as if to say "I know you won't be happy like that and also I need to be close so you can evolve further, cuz you're already at this level". This is how I see it, at least. I honestly can't imagine what it's like cuz it feels like I'm ages behind in you in the evolutionary scale, but then again.. perhaps I have not yet chosen to make the reality in which the Gods appear to me just as physical Humans do a possibility. Perhaps for a past life trauma, or conditioned beliefs. I'm working on that....
As for dreams, I'm a little surprised you haven't seen him there too, but then again perhaps you're so advanced that you don't need to, and you'll just meet him in your waking state. I have met astral beings in my dreams a few times but the dream state is a tricky one to master for me, even lucid dreaming only occurs almost randomly every once in a long while.
GD. said:
Now the thing is, some people could not realise, what if I said that thing here with the kiss first, and that I asked Satan through pendulum, then I started talking to my incubus himself, still through pendulum (because I wasn't opened to astral enough), and being called delusional, or whatever because I come here to ask as I am not sure what to think (and trust me, I doubted even his existence a lot, even if I was feeling him).
Glad you brought that up. Personally, I would be pretty pissed. I have probably one of the weakest experiences meeting the Gods so far compared to everyone else in this Forum, so for me a meeting is of extreme value. If I told that an encounter that had an intimate part happened to me, and someone would call me delusional or insane or something like that, that comment would only mold my belief that I "am" delusional or insane, and I would end up accomplishing less and less, or if ever again anything at all.
Doubts, especially on this path (a VERY hard path), can hide behind every corner. You do a meditation that is known to make one feel loads of energy and feel nothing... you summon a Demon a number of times and you're seeing nothing... your TK doesn't move a feather, your hands are always cold, and so on and on. Not to mention the enemy mingling with our thoughts like our brain is a chessboard and pushing us in dangerous corners that lead only to question whether or not we're just wasting times with a beautiful fantasy.
This is why we need to STRONGLY believe in our own experiences as the foundation of everything that will come. In my personal opinion, to call someone delusional is a serious attack and should be avoided entirely. You (not you GD, you anyone) don't agree with someone? Fine, say nothing. Look away. Don't tell them they're wrong when you clearly haven't had the experiences others have but feel like you know more about it than them.
GD. said:
But in moments of doubting, or not knowing the exact truth, I am 100% sure an advice would've helped.
Totally agree. This is EXACTLY what happened to me one year ago when I was trying to figure out my Guardian Demon's name... I was sure I'd met her years before but only found out her name one year before joining the Forum. I'd be given proof, energy signals, but nothing, I would not feel like I had an answer. In the end, it took some more convincing through another Brother to act as a one time medium (although there are no mediums in Satanism) because it was an extraordinary case of "being seeeeriously stuck and stubborn minded", and what he told me made complete sense to me.
If that hadn't occurred, I would still be stuck on the Demons' pages, reading descriptions and finding all the reasons in the world to believe the one I had the most signals from was also my Guardian since who knows how long... she's certainly waited at least those 20 years since our (probable) first encounter in this life. How can you ignore someone like that? You can't.
Lately I have been directed to other Demons too, but for the first time in forever I feel that She's the only one I really want to be with. (And yes, there was an intimate encounter, not the most intense ever of course, she knows how to be close and gentle, but I have no doubt any Demon/Demoness can also be a lover. Well, maybe not ALL of them, I know some are married to other Demons, but it's definitely possible.)
GD. said:
There should be strategies on how to tell the truth to people close to you depending on their personality, or how to determine what you should say to them.
Reading a bit here and on the "how to tell your parents" topic, and taking my time to annalise even more my situation, I realised some things.
Another is this connection with the ascensors, and the fact that maybe, even if they tried to help me (and did the opposite), I still have this urge to help them, which I couldn't explain until now.
I will definitely write more about this on this series, I know I will make a conclusion on my situation and post it. Maybe someone cares, or someone will read it and will help them, or maybe someone's response will help me getting to know this situation even deeper.
I'd say to follow one's guts in dealing with people that know nothing of what REAL Satanism is. If you know someone isn't going to even understand very obvious physical and proven problems in the world, they won't likely be able to wrap themselves around a reality so rich of truths and information. Sometimes it can even be dangerous to reveal too much, it's just safer to play NPC and not give others the chance to want to "save us", like so many complete idiots on social media who feel so entitled to "pray for you" and urge you to "go to Jewsus"... screw them all. They want to embrace ignorance and oblivion? I say, let them. Nobody forced you and I or anyone else in this Forum to become a Satanist, we all felt a call we could not ignore. These other people simply don't hear it, and shouting in their ear won't change things. They'll put on headphones, if anything.
Do write more on this other matter you're dealing with, if you want. I'd just say to ask the Gods for help, but if I can give you a useful hint, I'm glad.
HAIL SATAN FOREVER!
PS. Sorry for the longest message.
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So don't feel bound to help anyone like it's your mission, you're here for YOU before you're here for your mother, father, for me, or anyone else. If you lead by example and become closer and closer to a Goddess, others will follow you drawn by your light.
