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The Phantom Stranger said:

These concepts you are arguing about, like the status of Satan or the ability to travel through time, are all ones in which none of us have a full idea of the subject. Our priesthood has the intuitive ability to communicate with the Gods and better comprehend these topics, however, and this should be respected.

Although that doesn't mean they are perfect, their words should be taken as the leading advice on these subjects. With that in mind, I don't think you are in a position to really make overarching judgements about HPHC. Pointing out the contradiction and how it has confused you is fine, but assuming that logic and advancement don't align, or that this false notion applies to HPHC, is not right to do.

I think recently you have come off as pretty argumentative recently, which by itself is fine, but there also has to be an awareness that forcefulness does not always equal knowledge. For example, maybe you have silenced AFODO in this conversation, but you could still be wrong in an objective manner.
 
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The Phantom Stranger said:
Outdated? Really?

I don't know how to say this, but that statement of HPHC makes zero logical sense.

You said that HPHC said that Satan was #1 and that the universe was infinite. This makes no logical sense at all.

In an infinite universe, there would be infinite beings, it would be impossible to even know if there was a #1 most powerful person.

And this continues many times with HPHC.

It doesn't matter how advanced you are, logic cannot be thrown out the window.

These concepts you are arguing about, like the status of Satan or the ability to travel through time, are all ones in which none of us have a full idea of the subject. Our priesthood has the intuitive ability to communicate with the Gods and better comprehend these topics, however, and this should be respected.

Although that doesn't mean they are perfect, their words should be taken as the leading advice on these subjects. With that in mind, I don't think you are in a position to really make overarching judgements about HPHC. Pointing out the contradiction and how it has confused you is fine, but assuming that logic and advancement don't align, or that this false notion applies to HPHC, is not right to do.

I think recently you have come off as pretty argumentative recently, which by itself is fine, but there also has to be an awareness that forcefulness does not always equal knowledge. For example, maybe you have silenced AFODO in this conversation, but you could still be wrong in an objective manner.

Brother hi ....I have asked some very important questions with respect to my natal chart in your mail ....Please do reply ...Only from your replies in mail ,would I be able to take the right solution
 

@Phantom Stranger:
Don't be so quick to form opinions. Much of what is given has been written so the masses can understand it. As you advance more and communicate with the Gods clearly and become wiser, you will be given more knowledge from them.

Satan is the highest and most important, for us here on Earth (and other areas related or not related to us). That's all that matters to us.

@Afodo:
HPS Maxine was more advanced than she let on. When she created the JoS, she did it all herself (except for a very few parts by others), so she had to get some things from grimoires without verifying fully from the Gods as to their accuracy. She had no time to do any more than she did, as she also had a full time job and a family to care for.
 
Satan is God. Satan is not just a God, Satan is the God of Gods, he is the consciousness of this Universe and there is no one above him. I'm guessing some people don't understand this, Satan is not just "one of the Gods", and just another entity in the Universe.

Once one understands how supreme and powerful all the other Gods are, and they are all loyal to Satan, they will get some understanding out of all of this. Just who Satan was, is and will always be.
 
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@Phantom Stranger:
Don't be so quick to form opinions. Much of what is given has been written so the masses can understand it. As you advance more and communicate with the Gods clearly and become wiser, you will be given more knowledge from them.

Satan is the highest and most important, for us here on Earth (and other areas related or not related to us). That's all that matters to us.

@Afodo:
HPS Maxine was more advanced than she let on. When she created the JoS, she did it all herself (except for a very few parts by others), so she had to get some things from grimoires without verifying fully from the Gods as to their accuracy. She had no time to do any more than she did, as she also had a full time job and a family to care for.

Satan is the God we devouted our lifes and souls to. We Dedicated to Father Satan.
We ride together, we die together.
No matter what other Beings are out there.
 
Henu the Great said:
Is_that_so said:
Can Y-Y-Y-AH-AH-AH-U-U-U-U-M-M-M-M be used for both heart and sixth?
Yaum is for the sixth chakra. It was ascribed to the heart charka previously before an update.



This has been discussed many times but still it's good to get confirmation.

The list above should be correct, right?

SWP
 
How should I get started in Spiritual Satanism? I read several articles here and on JoS, but I didn't understand where I should start, maybe with the Commitment to Satan?
 
Is there an mp3 of Shattering jewish protection ritual? The pronunciation guide at the bottom could be improved!
 
I hate to rehash a question that's probably been asked ad naseum, however it is something that's really been bothering me lately.

I'm curious about how the people we live with and interact with daily can inhibit our spiritual progress? Is it possible to overcome this without completely detaching yourself from these people?

I ask because I live with chiristards (the woke kind) who on one hand are kind, fairly bright and well rounded people but on the other live to die (eat, sleep, repeat), pray every meal, sing gospel songs randomly, probably pray for me, etc.

I feel a bit concerned that there may be a greater spiritual warring aspect when living in these environments and I wonder if there is a way to effectively overcome it without having to move somewhere else.

The later option certainly would be better, but in my rather complicated situation these people are the best I've got; a lesser of two evils so to speak.

Thanks for your time.
 
Abxxx said:
How should I get started in Spiritual Satanism? I read several articles here and on JoS, but I didn't understand where I should start, maybe with the Commitment to Satan?
Yes, firstly dedicate then start meditating and do the rtrs. For starting with meditation, begin with the 40 days program by HPHC
 

I cannot imagine exactly how your situation looks like but to a certain degree I can relate. My opinion on this is that both sides can be better off from having a practicing SS in the house.

They will be far better than living without your positive influence and example and you can, if the right approach and attitude is adopted, also benefit from their presence just as an athlete benefits from putting on weights before training (you know the wrist and ankle weights and there's also a weighted vest). Your patience, your skill in dealing with spiritually less developed people and other aspects can be strengthened due to your spending time with them.

The down side is that they're under the influence of enemy programs which can lead to some unwanted conflict and situations but it shouldn't be too drastic. Try and remember that they can't pull you down much and that in an indirect way you're helping them.

This is all until you can be in a place of your own which is of course a much better option.

SWP
 
sublimestatanist said:
I hate to rehash a question that's probably been asked ad naseum, however it is something that's really been bothering me lately.

I'm curious about how the people we live with and interact with daily can inhibit our spiritual progress? Is it possible to overcome this without completely detaching yourself from these people?

I ask because I live with chiristards (the woke kind) who on one hand are kind, fairly bright and well rounded people but on the other live to die (eat, sleep, repeat), pray every meal, sing gospel songs randomly, probably pray for me, etc.

I feel a bit concerned that there may be a greater spiritual warring aspect when living in these environments and I wonder if there is a way to effectively overcome it without having to move somewhere else.

The later option certainly would be better, but in my rather complicated situation these people are the best I've got; a lesser of two evils so to speak.

Thanks for your time.
Keeping energies high, aura or protection, cleaning of aura, and setting clear boundaries in your mind, and also between people goes a long way. It is such a long way that there is nothing to worry about. Those people are weaklings, after all.
 
How clever or stupid would it be to distribute leaflets with the JoS URL in my area? (And maybe a short description).*

*Assuming that no one finds out whose been distributing the leaflets.


Is it a case of ‘people will find JoS on their own when they’re ready - without need for a leaflet’?

Or can leaflets be a net benefit to JoS’ expansion?
 
Hi.

From the forums I found out that there are multiple earth-like planets in the Milky Way. Each harbour their own race of humans and whatnot.


Question is; how does astrology work on different planets?
Do they use the same constellations as us (Aries, Taurus, etc.) but different planets (instead of Mars & Venus, etc.)?

Or do they use different constellations as well?


Also, humans on this earth have 7 chakras - each ruled by a planet in our solar system.
What about the humans in solar systems with less or more planets than what we have? Do their amount of chakras vary accordingly? (More planets in their solar system = more chakras for them??).

Is that even a thing? Can humans be on a home-planet with like 20 other planets in its’ solar system? Or do all the other human-inhabited planets have about the same number of planets as we do?


And on that note, do their planets have the same energy as our ones? For example, are there solar systems with an absence of malefic planets? Or must every human-inhabited planet be in a solar system with planets thats have the same energies as our ones?

Is there a solar system where there are like 2 or more of a kind of planet? For example, does a solar system with 2 Saturn-like planets (2 greater malefics) and 3 Jupiter-like planets (3 greater benefics) exist?

Is there a solar system with 2 or more ‘earths’ both inhabited by its native humans?

Do such variation exist or must a solar system meet certain strict criteria in order to harbour indigenous humans?



How does astrology work in places outside of our own? 💀
 
a very important help I need ..I am basically studying computer science ..i have to study all topics only from different websites ..when studying a particular topic many other links either related to that topic or other topic links are also present in the same website url link either in the right or left or front or bottom /..Those other links present in the same website link really brings me some kind of overwhelming ..what should I do to ignore those other links present in the same website link .which meditation or technique will help me to only focus on the stuff that I am studying totally ignoring other links in the same webpage ..My focus should only be on what I am studying ..how do I really do this??
 
when I do affirmation ,,which of the method is correct " The energy of raum is permanently removing my negative karma in a a very beneficial and healthy way for me now and forever "

or " The energy of raum is permanently removing my negative karma in a a very beneficial and healthy way for me"

my question is when using eternally or permanently do you need to use Now and forever at the end or when using eternally or permanently no need to use now and forever "?
 
phi3.14infinity said:
a very important help I need ..I am basically studying computer science ..i have to study all topics only from different websites ..when studying a particular topic many other links either related to that topic or other topic links are also present in the same website url link either in the right or left or front or bottom /..Those other links present in the same website link really brings me some kind of overwhelming ..what should I do to ignore those other links present in the same website link .which meditation or technique will help me to only focus on the stuff that I am studying totally ignoring other links in the same webpage ..My focus should only be on what I am studying ..how do I really do this??

Overall meditation should help this. When you meditate, focus only on meditation.

Dopamine detox also help. You are only clicking on these links because the current one do not gives you enough detox and you are craving some more sensation.

Less mobile phone, especially apps like tiktok, instagram, facebook, reddit, and anything like this. And more void meditation, or simply, put more effort in your meditations.

If it's a link that can be actually interesting and worth to see, than click on it with your scroll button, so it opens it in another tab, to save it for a bit later.

phi3.14infinity said:
when I do affirmation ,,which of the method is correct " The energy of raum is permanently removing my negative karma in a a very beneficial and healthy way for me now and forever "

or " The energy of raum is permanently removing my negative karma in a a very beneficial and healthy way for me"

my question is when using eternally or permanently do you need to use Now and forever at the end or when using eternally or permanently no need to use now and forever "?

The second one is better, permanent means forever.

sola said:
How clever or stupid would it be to distribute leaflets with the JoS URL in my area? (And maybe a short description).*

*Assuming that no one finds out whose been distributing the leaflets.


Is it a case of ‘people will find JoS on their own when they’re ready - without need for a leaflet’?

Or can leaflets be a net benefit to JoS’ expansion?

Not that bad of an idea, but do it safely. You can't just assume that nobody will find out
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=89008&p=460267&hilit

Yes, it is beneficial.


There is 8 planets in our solar system and not 7.

Mercury 1
Venus 2
Earth 3
Mars 4
Jupiter 5
Saturn 6
Uranus 7
Neptune 8

And there are also smaller or "dwarf planets"

Ceres
Orcus
Pluto
Haumea
Quaoar
Makemake
Gonggong
Eris
Sedna

Every children of the Gods have the same chakras, every of them have 7 main.
The planets give off different energies because they have different materials in them. In other solar systems, there are different planets with different energies.

They may have more or less planets, they most probably call them differently. Neither is our planets are perfect, some of them rules more than one chakra or something, it doesn't work like 1 planet - 1 chakra.

They are just influencing us, and some of them influence specifically a chakra because that's how they vibrate, but neither are the planets based off of our chakras or vice versa.
 
AFODO said:
phi3.14infinity said:
a very important help I need ..I am basically studying computer science ..i have to study all topics only from different websites ..when studying a particular topic many other links either related to that topic or other topic links are also present in the same website url link either in the right or left or front or bottom /..Those other links present in the same website link really brings me some kind of overwhelming ..what should I do to ignore those other links present in the same website link .which meditation or technique will help me to only focus on the stuff that I am studying totally ignoring other links in the same webpage ..My focus should only be on what I am studying ..how do I really do this??

Overall meditation should help this. When you meditate, focus only on meditation.

Dopamine detox also help. You are only clicking on these links because the current one do not gives you enough detox and you are craving some more sensation.

Less mobile phone, especially apps like tiktok, instagram, facebook, reddit, and anything like this. And more void meditation, or simply, put more effort in your meditations.

If it's a link that can be actually interesting and worth to see, than click on it with your scroll button, so it opens it in another tab, to save it for a bit later.

phi3.14infinity said:
when I do affirmation ,,which of the method is correct " The energy of raum is permanently removing my negative karma in a a very beneficial and healthy way for me now and forever "

or " The energy of raum is permanently removing my negative karma in a a very beneficial and healthy way for me"

my question is when using eternally or permanently do you need to use Now and forever at the end or when using eternally or permanently no need to use now and forever "?

The second one is better, permanent means forever.

sola said:
How clever or stupid would it be to distribute leaflets with the JoS URL in my area? (And maybe a short description).*

*Assuming that no one finds out whose been distributing the leaflets.


Is it a case of ‘people will find JoS on their own when they’re ready - without need for a leaflet’?

Or can leaflets be a net benefit to JoS’ expansion?

Not that bad of an idea, but do it safely. You can't just assume that nobody will find out
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=89008&p=460267&hilit

Yes, it is beneficial.


There is 8 planets in our solar system and not 7.

Mercury 1
Venus 2
Earth 3
Mars 4
Jupiter 5
Saturn 6
Uranus 7
Neptune 8

And there are also smaller or "dwarf planets"

Ceres
Orcus
Pluto
Haumea
Quaoar
Makemake
Gonggong
Eris
Sedna

Every children of the Gods have the same chakras, every of them have 7 main.
The planets give off different energies because they have different materials in them. In other solar systems, there are different planets with different energies.

They may have more or less planets, they most probably call them differently. Neither is our planets are perfect, some of them rules more than one chakra or something, it doesn't work like 1 planet - 1 chakra.

They are just influencing us, and some of them influence specifically a chakra because that's how they vibrate, but neither are the planets based off of our chakras or vice versa.

brother thanks a VERY VERY LOT for answering me ..how to do dopamine detox ??so when affirming raum or anything ..u do not have to use permanently and "now and forever" in the same affirmation sentence right???I mean if u say permanently no need to use now and forever right??and also what is the solution for unwanted intrusive thoughts??
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
There's a lot of new people here, even more quests now than registered users! And each one of you has questions. In the past, when people had questions here, they would usually start a new topic just for that one question. So there was a lot of repetition of the same topics being made to ask the same questions, and it's hard to look through them all. Searching for topics to see if a question was already asked doesn't always work, and it's too much work than it should be. We're trying to teach as many people as possible whatever they need to know to succeed, so we need a system that's the easiest it can be. Since most of you are new here, we can't expect you to have the time to read through all the years of posts that you weren't here for. It's our job here to give you whatever you need to know in the simplest most effective way.

So everybody ask your questions here so we can answer them. New people come here to learn. And if you don't see your question here yet, then you ask it and it gets answered. We will do our best to give everyone the most perfect answers. This topic becomes like an encyclopedia of all the information in one easy place for everyone to find. You'll find answers to questions that you didn't even think of asking. This is the most perfect way to teach the biggest amount of people everything they need to know.

Start by reading http://www.joyofsatan.org and http://www.kabbalahexposed.com these will answer many of your questions before needing to be asked. Then if you need more information or explaination you can come here. We have to concentrate the most important information in the easiest way for the most amount of people to learn.

Get everyone going on their own Satanic path as quickly and easily as possible. Because as a new member, it can take some people months or even years to figure out the foundation they need before they are even at a level where they are secure and confident on their path. So all of us who have already gone through this are here to give you the answers to get you set up and running. No wasted time, let the work that many of us have already personally done be the new foundation for all new people to start at! :D Our population is about growth! We take the resources from those who have worked hard before us and continue their work so those who come after us have an even easier time! Satanism is a very difficult path, but in many ways it doesn't have to be and shouldn't be. Make the whole system here perfectly efficient for training our family! Because the sooner you are set up and over the troubles of being a beginner, you are now sooner able to help everyone else!

We love answering questions here, let us help you!

what is the solution to destroy unwanted intrusive thoughts?
 
Powerofjustice said:
The Phantom Stranger said:

Outdated? Really?

I don't know how to say this, but that statement of HPHC makes zero logical sense.

You said that HPHC said that Satan was #1 and that the universe was infinite. This makes no logical sense at all.

In an infinite universe, there would be infinite beings, it would be impossible to even know if there was a #1 most powerful person.

And this continues many times with HPHC.

It doesn't matter how advanced you are, logic cannot be thrown out the window.

You are assuming that the Universe is infinite. I don't know how it works exactly but there is apparently a known "end" or "boundaries." Thoth teaches that the universe is triangular in shape.

I personally find this amusing more than anything and also pointless to ponder as the answer would be of no immediate benefit to me. Is the universe infinite? Will it end in a million years or tomorrow? I cannot possibly know. And in what way will the knowledge improve my life today?

I suggest you do what you know how to do (meditate) rather than ponder things that contribute nothing to your advancement.


Where can I find the sermons where it's written that the universe is triangular in shape?
 
WiseDragon said:
Satan is God. Satan is not just a God, Satan is the God of Gods, he is the consciousness of this Universe and there is no one above him. I'm guessing some people don't understand this, Satan is not just "one of the Gods", and just another entity in the Universe.

Once one understands how supreme and powerful all the other Gods are, and they are all loyal to Satan, they will get some understanding out of all of this. Just who Satan was, is and will always be.

This is the thing that I don't quite understand. If Satan is the consciousness of the universe then how come he and other Gods live on one of the planets in the Orion system? Can one be the consciousness of the universe and live on a celestial body at the same time?
 
Nero said:
Where can I find the sermons where it's written that the universe is triangular in shape?

It's an audio sermon by High Priestess Maxine. You can find it here Mind Over Body And Matter, I'm giving you the link to the whole article for context, but if you want to skip to what you're looking for, just search "Azazel’s statement to HPS Maxine".
 
Nero said:
WiseDragon said:
Satan is God. Satan is not just a God, Satan is the God of Gods, he is the consciousness of this Universe and there is no one above him. I'm guessing some people don't understand this, Satan is not just "one of the Gods", and just another entity in the Universe.

Once one understands how supreme and powerful all the other Gods are, and they are all loyal to Satan, they will get some understanding out of all of this. Just who Satan was, is and will always be.

This is the thing that I don't quite understand. If Satan is the consciousness of the universe then how come he and other Gods live on one of the planets in the Orion system? Can one be the consciousness of the universe and live on a celestial body at the same time?

Satan is a living body and soul. He is not a name for the entire universe's field of consciousness, but it is that his own consciousness has expanded far enough that he is able to connect into this entire field of consciousness. He did not start this way, but he has developed and advanced to gain these far reaching senses.
 
Powerofjustice said:
The Phantom Stranger said:

Outdated? Really?

I don't know how to say this, but that statement of HPHC makes zero logical sense.

You said that HPHC said that Satan was #1 and that the universe was infinite. This makes no logical sense at all.

In an infinite universe, there would be infinite beings, it would be impossible to even know if there was a #1 most powerful person.

And this continues many times with HPHC.

It doesn't matter how advanced you are, logic cannot be thrown out the window.

You are assuming that the Universe is infinite. I don't know how it works exactly but there is apparently a known "end" or "boundaries." Thoth teaches that the universe is triangular in shape.

I personally find this amusing more than anything and also pointless to ponder as the answer would be of no immediate benefit to me. Is the universe infinite? Will it end in a million years or tomorrow? I cannot possibly know. And in what way will the knowledge improve my life today?

I suggest you do what you know how to do (meditate) rather than ponder things that contribute nothing to your advancement.

The universe is infinite. What Lady Maxine was describing there was the physical portion of it, which is finite because the concept of infinity doesn't exist in the physical realm YET. The spiritual realms are infinite in size, and they are eternal. That's where the akasha comes from, infinite in quantity and unevenly distributed throughout the universe.

In time, the Magnum Opus will be completed on a universal scale as well and the physical universe will be infinite and eternal as well. The Magnum Opus is not just for us. Every level of existence and consciousness has their own Magnum Opus to complete, and a different one becomes available once you complete it, as that is the nature of growth and evolution, moving from one level to the next.

Our job, other than ascending to immortality, is currently to destroy the enemy and then help our own planet reach her next level. The Sun is also heading toward his next level. That is why he's constantly refining hydrogen into helium.

The notion about the universe being infinite and eternal is in the Vedas and literally all Pagan/Satanic culture. Pondering these matters may not be of immediate benefit to you, but it can be useful for other people. It's by observing and pondering on how nature works that we understand it and can work alongside to improve ourselves, science and technology. If we didn't ponder about things, there would be no advancement in any areas.
 
Stormblood said:
The universe is infinite. What Lady Maxine was describing there was the physical portion of it, which is finite because the concept of infinity doesn't exist in the physical realm YET. The spiritual realms are infinite in size, and they are eternal. That's where the akasha comes from, infinite in quantity and unevenly distributed throughout the universe.

That makes sense, thank you.
 
Anunakovich said:
Is Baldur A Mitre ? Or is his son Forseti Mitra ?

That's it, definitely
Mitra is the light of the earth, Baldur, Azazel, Saturn
Earthly Laws, mathematics, therefore Balder is the father of the Forset god of earthly courts, because Mitra and Varuna, where Mitra rules over Kshatriyas, warriors and kings and the courts that apply to them
Varuna is the deity of the waters of heaven, the judge of the Brahmanas and priests monitors the spiritual laws, the dharma of the heavenly waters
Mitra behind the dharma of the earth's firmament
 
Hi !

Before discovering JoS, the vision I had about main entities managing the life on Earth come from F Bardon.
My cosmogonic model was :
  • Genii was the religiously called "angel" hierarchy and their counter hierarchy, the "demons" were not described because they can be dangerous.
  • Genii had created the four Elemental hierarchies, kind of sadly mortal though-forms to manage phenomena on Earth.
    Genii have no emotions and are not quadripolar.
  • There is also dead souls and human made though forms...
  • All these categories interact in our mind generating the though phenomena and vampire more or less us in this process.
  • Many are potentially dangerous in the sense that if you don't dominate them they will dominate you, positive or negative. Negative genii can influence us to sign a contract with not fun karmic consequences. Also Positive genii but in a painless way.
  • I associated YHWH, Satan and Saturn as the same cosmic guy and was not sure that Satan is Lucifer.

All was perfect for me then I discovered here that :
  • Our ancient Pantheon is a cosmic civilization leaded by Satan and able to enhance, civilize and educate us.
  • The YHWH side and its angels is in fact an association of concurrent civilizations having created our enemy the jew and headed by the greys to take over the Earth.

So...

What the genii are ?
They are an other civilization of "non-being" which organize conditions on a given planetary systems ?

What's the game beyond our human life ?
Concurrent races and their political tendencies are in concurrence in the cosmos, like animals on a planet ?

Is there a political goal at cosmic scale?
We could become highly advanced and immortal by ourselves after an innumerable and painful count of reincarnations with endless karmic constraints under the influence of the genii hierarchy and Satan has chosen to accelerate this process because we are interesting and could grow his side to promote evolution and freedom in the cosmos ?

What is your cosmogonic version ?
 
Besides EIS(ISA) which I'm not a big fan of using a binding, freezing rune on myself.

Is there any rune or mantra that can help with entering a trance?

It's not so much I can't enter a trance I've had drivers trance and perhaps while meditating very gentle trance that can't be felt.

I want to ask is there any way to sensitize the trance and aggrandize it?

Should ISA be used? Isn't it a malefic rune?

I guess doing 33 or 44 vibrations of ISA and programing it for void, stilling the mind using black energy would help.

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Also a short while back I did 10 ISA and it affected me made me a dull. Is there a specific reason why ISA image I had in mind glowed white while possessing a black aura. I thought the idea of color magick is to see the Rune in black.

Is that normal? Container of all colors.

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Finally exactly what is trance?

I'm not trying to sound silly. Does it mean my thoughts shut off? i.e. mental chatter/background music?

I can pause my mind for a solid second or two. But the music and chatter doesn't stop.

And yes I've done void or mindfulness or whatever you want to call it. But I don't exactly know what to do.

It seems like when I breath my mind fills up with chatter.

Is trance a silencing meditation? does trance = blank minded?

Also is vision a form of breaking void? If I see an image in my head forming while blank minded to the small bit that I can. Is that a violation of breaking void thus void = null?

What exactly precisely is void? i.e. total absolution of thought? Am I to be a blank-minded robot or is it more than that.

And yes as you can tell I posses very little trance and void self-experience.

Are there any besides JOS ways of trancing out? If my mind is very chatty, probably more so than other people.
 
Gear88 said:

When we describe these yin concepts (like trance or void), you are assuming that the yin element of these actions dominates or destroys any yang activity (like ceasing consciousness). This is not true at all.

In reality, each of these actions serves as a yin container/balancer to increase the potentiality of your yang activity to alter the fabric of reality.

Trance is simply a way to calm the body and mind, making it easier to interact with energy. This makes it easier to manifest changes, because the subconscious is more active.

The purpose of void is not for cessation of thought, but for controlling of thought. A physical analogy would be like if someone asked you to hold your hand still, to improve one's nimbleness. That doesn't mean you are going to turn into a zombie.

Void is an ongoing practice and is not made "null" just because you had 1 thought slip through out of many. Over time, you will get better and better. Just keep trying, rather than immediately assuming you had "failed".

If you don't want to use Isa, then Berkano can be used for inducing calm.
 
Can someone link me on how to use the forums properly so I don't have to reply with a whole quote etc

I can't find it.

Thx
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
Can someone link me on how to use the forums properly so I don't have to reply with a whole quote etc

I can't find it.

Thx
The forum guide topic is pinned on the first page of this subforum. And you can play around with posting in the preview mode to see how quoting and other features can be used.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Gear88 said:

When we describe these yin concepts (like trance or void), you are assuming that the yin element of these actions dominates or destroys any yang activity (like ceasing consciousness). This is not true at all.

In reality, each of these actions serves as a yin container/balancer to increase the potentiality of your yang activity to alter the fabric of reality.

Trance is simply a way to calm the body and mind, making it easier to interact with energy. This makes it easier to manifest changes, because the subconscious is more active.

The purpose of void is not for cessation of thought, but for controlling of thought. A physical analogy would be like if someone asked you to hold your hand still, to improve one's nimbleness. That doesn't mean you are going to turn into a zombie.

Void is an ongoing practice and is not made "null" just because you had 1 thought slip through out of many. Over time, you will get better and better. Just keep trying, rather than immediately assuming you had "failed".

If you don't want to use Isa, then Berkano can be used for inducing calm.

Very interesting thank you. I can't believe how much I overcomplicate things. I've lately been meditating quite a bit working on negative karma removal and cleaning/breathing energy protection i.e. basic aop/and runic protection, I recall you replying soon after starting off you should perform runic protection to offset negativity in a sharper way.

You have no FUCKING idea how succinct and dominating your message was. It hit me in such a profound way, that you basically blow my mind having been at this 20 years now. Even though I should have known better.

I overcomplicate tremendously, once again thank you.

The reason why void is the act of thought banishment a shortwhile back I began to work on my major chakras. And I had hallucinations basically I used ISA and it slowed me down a tad. I noticed one thought appear in my head didn't want to think of it and turned it into dust. I've never used hallucinogenic substances but the images I received I could recall the memory of that thought but the very image I couldn't formulate it back.

I knew that I blew up a thought and know the memory of it. But when it came to reform the thought I couldn't

I don't know if I should state Astro chart stuff, but my mind is very balanced despite being in 8th house leo i.e. Mercury.

So my Mercury is in the worst sign i.e. detriment. But despite possessing this mind as the astrologer and former website Wayman Stewart plus I recall searching a few astro sites.

My mind is balanced between logic and illogic and I can throw curve balls from right field at people. I posses such an odd mind linked to my emotions. I am Cancarian after all. My friend sometimes is in awe of my intuitive perceptive properties. I can formulate my own personal answers and self-analyze to give my feelings and thoughts.

That my mind is working in balance. That is why sometimes I speak and throw curve balls at people I talk to.

Anyways once again thank you. I feel much better contemplating your message.

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Also one more question. I use multi-rune vibrations. I vibrate(I prefer Gothic vibrations): Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan and then I used to use Aihwa(unites the energies harmoniously).

Is it wrong to unite the protective forces with Aihwa?

Or is it better to eliminate Aihwa and let them work in their own way?

i.e. Runic AoP
 
Henu the Great said:
Gear88 said:
Finally exactly what is trance?
This should help you as it contains the information you seek, and more.

Advancement and Meditation for Beginners Part 1 - https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=59214

Henu...WTF?! O.O Thank you!

My goodness I cannot believe I never ran into this sermon by Blitz, this should be stickied somewhere so people see. Once again Thank you!

BTW at Blitz or Henu, it states conscious breathing?

So is Blitz trying to state that mindfulness is a form of anti-meditation?

Mindfulness or breath awareness i.e. you focus on breathing without control.

Or is mindfulness something else? For the people who don't know mindfulness it's the basic buddhist meditation taught everywhere now a days especially.

Thank you Henu, I'm sorry for all my shit, I've been doing healing work and anti-negative karma and I'm trying to go slow. I keep hearing voices from time to time of take it slower instead of 10 FCM vibrations do 3-5 and I also get voices saying focus more on masculine chakra rather than upper do a little unbalance to help your soul out.

As Stormblood mentioned overgrounded > overcharged, sometime ago.

BTW I have one more question. The voices that I hear I did Akasha vibration and breath in akasha before vibrating for extra akasha. I used it to balance my body and I went into a state of breathing as if I've been drowning for like 30 seconds. Same thing happened when I did brown energy from the Earth up to my aura and soul and programmed it for grounding and centering.

Is it normal to experience a shock at grounding/centering?

The voices I hear state you've been so used to high chakras that your like a zombie and your body is dying for attention.

I'll admit I do ignore my physical vessel a lot, I'm mentally and spiritually intense.

I know imbalance is bad but my upper chakras are TOO overpowering the voice was like your female chakras are too active your like a new ager focus on the lower. When I pray to Satan for communicating with him I heard a voice saying focus on going slower your opening your soul to fast.

Is it okay to go a little slow with soul work and focus on cleaning, protection, purification, healing, and anti-negative karma before going in deeper for higher work?

I'm simply doing Clean/AOP/Healing Work/Anti-negative karma, general working every negative karma/EZ spin/ and H/K yoga.

Also the voices told me stop Merkaba and chakra spinning to the speed of light your blasting your soul too much and you need to go slow.

TL;DR: Is it okay to go slower and take your time?
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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