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[Ol argedco luciftias]

Hello all, this time, I'm writing about something that has been inderectly sort of thrown in my face by my mother from time to time.

She complains that ever since I was born, she has been experiencing nightmares about death, plague, and many other horrors every night, and it has become a common thing.

Is there anything I could do to help her? Thank you in advance.

She needs to remove whatever bad energies that are attached to her. Like the Returning Curses.

 

[zzzz]

- For reasons of safety, I assume people have to maintain an effort to stay invisible when doing *extra Work against the enemy.
Asmodeus already said we're invisible to the enemy, but, how invisible is this invisibility specifically? Is Iss & Void Meditation enough to stay 100% invisible in every dimension?

- If not; how many dimensions are there? What are they called? What makes a dimension 'higher' or 'lower'?
What must one do to stay do to stay 100% invisible in all of them, to a point where the enemy will always know 0? [if possible/feasible]

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

- For reasons of safety, I assume people have to maintain an effort to stay invisible when doing *extra Work against the enemy.
Asmodeus already said we're invisible to the enemy, but, how invisible is this invisibility specifically? Is Iss & Void Meditation enough to stay 100% invisible in every dimension?

- If not; how many dimensions are there? What are they called? What makes a dimension 'higher' or 'lower'?
What must one do to stay do to stay 100% invisible in all of them, to a point where the enemy will always know 0? [if possible/feasible]

Don't worry about things that are not important. Work on your soul, work with the Gods, and don't worry about anything else.

As your soul improves and strengthens, your consciousness expands and you naturally begin to understand all of these things. The improved understanding you will automatically gain by just working with the Gods is more than anything that we can say to you that you are not ready to understand.

 

[mstrach02]

Merhaba demonları çağırdım ancak olumlu sonuç alamadım,furfuru çağırma ritüel yaptım gelmedi gelmemesinin sebebi nedir? Kendimi nasıl koruyabilirim

 

[Viego]

Merhaba demonları çağırdım ancak olumlu sonuç alamadım,furfuru çağırma ritüel yaptım gelmedi gelmemesinin sebebi nedir? Kendimi nasıl koruyabilirim

Her şeyi mükemmel yapmış olmanız, başarının kaçınılmaz olarak garanti edildiği anlamına gelmez, onu görememenizin/hissedememenizin nedeni farklı nedenlere bağlı olabilir, ya henüz yeterince güçlü değilsinizdir ya da belki de o anda gelmek için zamanınız olmamıştır, bu olabilir, çok açık fikirli olmalısınız ve istediğiniz kişiyle bağlantı kurmaya çalışmalısınız, korunmak için meditasyon yapabilirsiniz, bu büyümeyi ve korunmayı kolaylaştırır

 

[mstrach02]

Her şeyi mükemmel yapmış olmanız, başarının kaçınılmaz olarak garanti edildiği anlamına gelmez, onu görememenizin/hissedememenizin nedeni farklı nedenlere bağlı olabilir, ya henüz yeterince güçlü değilsinizdir ya da belki de o anda gelmek için zamanınız olmamıştır, bu olabilir, çok açık fikirli olmalısınız ve istediğiniz kişiyle bağlantı kurmaya çalışmalısınız, korunmak için meditasyon yapabilirsiniz, bu büyümeyi ve korunmayı kolaylaştırır

Teşekkür ederim yorumun için

 

[Viego]

Teşekkür ederim yorumun için

Rica ederim kardeşim.

 

[Darkspirit]

Merhaba demonları çağırdım ancak olumlu sonuç alamadım,furfuru çağırma ritüel yaptım gelmedi gelmemesinin sebebi nedir? Kendimi nasıl koruyabilirim

Writing in English will allow more people to help you, as it is the English Forum.

 

[zzzz]

Is it necessary for us to build underground cities, and/or moon/mars colonies? (to continue humanity in case of cataclysms like supervolcanos, ice ages, asteroids, nukes, etc).

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Is it necessary for us to build underground cities, and/or moon/mars colonies? (to continue humanity in case of cataclysms like supervolcanos, ice ages, asteroids, nukes, etc).

I don't think it is necessary.

 

[AFODO]

Is it necessary for us to build underground cities, and/or moon/mars colonies? (to continue humanity in case of cataclysms like supervolcanos, ice ages, asteroids, nukes, etc).

Yes I think so.
We are on the doorstep of a nuclear war, it is reasonable to find a place, or build one where you can hide. If things gets worse, I will start stocking up can foods and such.

 

[Viego]

Having some other places colonized it's defensibly not a bad idea, but then again human race is so dumb that if we colonize mars It wont surprise me that earth and mars will go to war sooner or later and nuke the shit of each other , although we can invest those resources on here, personally I think colonizing some other planets will be good but without the God's wont surprise me if the humans will go extinct regardless of how much planets they colonized

 

[zzzz]

Thanks for inputs. I see mixxed answers.

Part of me believes that we don't need underground cities or space colonies, because part of me believes the Gods would interveine and prevent a cataclyscm from happening in the first place.

Then another part of me believes that the Gods wouldn't intervene, and would leave it up to us to save ourself. Because I remember hearing about Atlantis and how they were advanced spiritually & technologically, yet they still nuked themselves to oblivion - and the Gods didn't do anything to stop it from happening. I wonder if the civilisation would still be around today if they had underground cities and/or space colonies that would support human, animal, and plant life (in living and/or frozen/dormant states) for centuries or milleniums until earth surface is habitable again.

I wonder if the story of Atlantis (if I know it correctly) implies that the Gods won't save our assess all the time, and that our survival from cataclysms depends on our own level of preparation.


If the implication is true, I personally want to develop ideas that'd continue our civilisation in the face of any natural and/or man-made disaster.

I have to know for sure though if the impliaction is true or false. Obviously itd be a waste of time developing ideas if the Gods have us covered this time.


Also another thing, making underground cities and colonizations is just a 'Physcial' means of defence against catclysm. Theres a possibility that we're safe by just taking 'Spiritual' action instead.

Like instead of doing gigatons of excavation, I heard its possible to; shift the tracjectory of inbound asteroids, to prevent yellowstone or any supervolcano from erupting, to remotely disarm enemy nukes, etc etc All by just MEDITATING on it. Is that true? Even if it is, is it still a good idea to have shielded underground structures or not?



Theres so many ways of looking at this situation and I don't know which way is right and wrong. It'd free me to allocate time/energy on the most important/relevant things if I knew the right answers. I'd chat to my GD directly instead of yap on forums but I genuinely have sissy non-existent clairaudience/voyance abilities at this point of incarnation. Relying on forums for answers. (Yes, I won't stop trying to develop the psychic abilities regardless).

 

[zzzz]

Is a human capable of having a Satanic Soul (or any soul at all) if the human was made by mixing sperm & egg cells in a lab and growing it in an artificial non-biological womb?

Is a human capable of having a Satanic Soul (or any soul at all) if the human was cryogenically frozen then thawed back to life after 10,000 years?


(Assuming the technology is possible).

 

[zzzz]

I have a best friend named Joe. We want to stay friends, but Joe's other best friend (andropod) want me and Joe to separate. Whats the most effective magick/spells/rituals I can do to stop the andropod from wanting to separate me and my best friend? Or to even get the andropod to start helping/encouraging me & Joe's connection [optional]?

Is Eykur enough or??? I want something potent.

 

[EveronK]

I have a question about the complete meditation of the chakras; is it mandatory to perform the breathing techniques?
That's all.

 

[Viego]

I have a question about the complete meditation of the chakras; is it mandatory to perform the breathing techniques?
That's all.

Nothing is mandatory but it would be best if you use them and do as described , later on you can experiment and do some other things yourself but first do it well and see how it works.

 

[Viego]

Atlantis

Do you really think that you would find the truth on average websites about the Atlantis ? If they were so superior it would not make sense for them to nuke themselves , that's lies.
They were facing something beyond their own control , something on a natural-universal scheme, something that was impossible for them to stop , that's what happen.

 

[zzzz]

Do you really think that you would find the truth on average websites about the Atlantis ?

bro the info i said abt atlantis came from JoS forums itself, from a post by HP Hoodedcobra. quit bashing me bro. if u dunno the answer to the question then allow it.

 

[zzzz]

Do you really think that you would find the truth on average websites about the Atlantis ?

In regards to if this has previously repeated, Azazel told me: "Atlantis". It has happened before, so when humans will celebrate that they are the "first" to actually move towards disaster out of greed or foolishness, they might not be the first. Azazel mentioned Atlantis over the fact that this was an inconceivably advanced civilization, yet, certain factors from out there can end things quickly if they get out of hand.

And no, AI won't really win over a solar storm or anything of the likes - foolishness will remain locked inside our little confine that we call earth or our solar system, nobody is allowing foolishness to flow outwards.

He also further added that "We have tried many times to get this right" [implying we have wiped out almost totally ourselves before with this, but that we can get it right actually if we make sensible steps], and that this time we have one more opportunity to finally get it "right and safely".

hp says atlantis was advanced but still wiped most of theirselves out. so im tryna find ways for our civilisation today to not wipe most of theirself out as well.

 

[zzzz]

They were facing something beyond their own control , something on a natural-universal scheme, something that was impossible for them to stop , that's what happen.

yh. they were facing Something for sure. no doubt.

i dont want our civilisation to face what they did. im trying to find out how possible or impossible that is to accomplish for our current civilisation.

 

[zzzz]

yh. they were facing Something for sure. no doubt.

i dont want our civilisation to face what they did. im trying to find out how possible or impossible that is to accomplish for our current civilisation.

(wish i could edit posts and add more instead of make new posts) ((im seething rn and am not articulating properly)) (((soz mods that have to approve multiple posts instead of one))).

to be frank, i dont want to hear from anyone that its 'impossible'. only reply if you know its possible and can hint me in the right directions pls. i want to ensure our civilisation's survival no matter what cataclysms we might face.

 

[Henu the Great]

(wish i could edit posts and add more instead of make new posts) ((im seething rn and am not articulating properly)) (((soz mods that have to approve multiple posts instead of one))).

to be frank, i dont want to hear from anyone that its 'impossible'. only reply if you know its possible and can hint me in the right directions pls. i want to ensure our civilisation's survival no matter what cataclysms we might face.

Our survival is not dependent on whether we can dig a cave large enough or not...

And please calm down before posting. You'll do yourself and others a favor that way, trust me.

 

[zzzz]

Our survival is not dependent on whether we can dig a cave large enough or not...

And please calm down before posting. You'll do yourself and others a favor that way, trust me.

[...]

In my post which I've quoted ([...]), I've already acknowledged that 'a cave' isn't the only thing that our survival depends. To clarify, the question specifically is "is it worth making shielded underground cities and/or space colonies? or is that a waste of time?".

And yes I'm well aware that posting in a calm manner is a favor to myself & others. Still, it wouldn't hurt to implement the ability to edit posts. Even 'calm' users would favor from the ability to edit posts.

 

[Viego]

yh. they were facing Something for sure. no doubt.

i dont want our civilisation to face what they did. im trying to find out how possible or impossible that is to accomplish for our current civilisation.

I think they did not wished for that neither , nobody does , who would? That's crazy question in itself but I understand your concern , to be frank with you there's much more to be known, as far as I know there were some higher kind of creatures on earth before us, not the Atlantis and I don't know if those people were from before or after the Atlantis , on this I can just intuitively say a few things, they were not developed only technologically , the Atlantis civilization I mean, they were also spiritual beings such as us and they are still among us more then anybody thinks , there's chances that not all of them went "away" , I truly wonder how they were treating the nature and how they were operating things, indeed they were hugely developed , even the God's were looking upon them, some of us might have some of their genes in us , as for our own God's them come from Constelation Orion and they are Aliens , they do truly exist in the material realm as well. Look at this:

Do you see how Their own constellation of our God's look like? Nobody can fuck with them , looks like the strongest constellation that might be in the entire universe.

AI: "
That's a great question! The confusion arises because, although we see constellations as distinct patterns in the sky, they are actually made up of stars within our own galaxy, the Milky Way.

The Orion constellation is indeed a group of stars that appear close together from our perspective on Earth, but all of these stars are located within the Milky Way. Constellations are just apparent patterns; they aren’t physically connected structures, and the stars that make them up are at varying distances from us. However, they all belong to our galaxy.

There are galaxies, galaxy clusters, and other structures far beyond the Milky Way, which are much farther away. But Orion is a "local" constellation for us, composed of Milky Way stars located only a few hundred to a few thousand light-years from Earth."

The distance between our galaxy, the Milky Way, and the constellation Orion can’t be directly measured as if they were separate entities, because Orion is not a single object but rather a group of stars that are part of the Milky Way itself. The constellation Orion consists of stars at different distances from Earth, all located within our own galaxy.

Here are a few examples of stars in Orion and their approximate distances from Earth:

• Betelgeuse: about 642 light-years away.
• Rigel: around 860 light-years away.
• Bellatrix: approximately 240 light-years away.

In summary, the constellation Orion is part of the Milky Way and is relatively close to us in galactic terms, at just a few hundred light-years away.

In my post which I've quoted ([...]), I've already acknowledged that 'a cave' isn't the only thing that our survival depends. To clarify, the question specifically is "is it worth making shielded underground cities and/or space colonies? or is that a waste of time?".

And yes I'm well aware that posting in a calm manner is a favor to myself & others. Still, it wouldn't hurt to implement the ability to edit posts. Even 'calm' users would favor from the ability to edit posts.

Ability to edit your own post is given as I've heard only when you become more older and experienced and with more impact , that's earned in time.

My whole point was that regardless if we do colonize other planet's and expand as a race, it is inevitable that every being is fated to destruction sooner or later , that's why our God's are the most badass because they are literally IMORTALS and with Power's beyond our ability to comprehend , honestly.

I understand your concern once again but I think if more people would wake up to such truth then humanity might have a bigger chance to evolve and make a greater world not for just a few but for everyone, that's why Aquarius Age we live in might do just that, great information's would be now accessible online , with the help of the God's , their guidance and protection and many things They do for us without asking nothing in return, that shows how much we are loved, even if sometimes we fuck up big times, they understand and probably look upon us like : He's so silly...lol . And then things go back on the path and on the track , I hope some of those information's fulfill your hunger for knowledge and feel free to ask anything, anytime . Asking it's good, more things can come up afterwards.

Our God's have had wars as well between them , there's many discussion about it and even in the Jos archives , one is free to believe as he fits and wishes from within his own perception and ration but some things are very common to every one and single of us , following the God's we can become as Them and not ever fail, we would be eternal , living the greatest civilization ever , in peace, harmony , everything fulfilled , can you imagine that they surpass Death itself? Such higher beings as our own God's there's none, Our's are not omnipotent or stuff such as the other religions try doing , we know there's no such thing as the most powerful being in the Universe , with the exception when there is and that's Father Satan, what many don't understand is that if Satan Wishes and He did Wished for us to become God's the moment he first created us then He could have had done so , and the war could have been avoided even or it would had ended up with the enemy destruction very long time ago but things happens with a reason , first and thermoset Satan knowing the Laws of Nature and being the Higher Being He knew that there must be a process , like a pregnant woman 9 months , point is that some things are let to happen , some are test's some are literal things going on and so on so forth , from all the Beings I have ever encounter , when you're summoning one of our own God's it truly feels like this:

go at 00:38 , I don't mean like the entire video in literal , I am only point out the Warrior kind of energy and vibe They all got , potent breath of eter , I just can't explain but our God's are not just Beings , they are ruling and at the same time are big CONCEPTS of many things , each one of Them such as Us their descendant's are unique in our own ways .

Me personally I always have liked God Sorath , not much is being said or talked about this God but He and God Abraxas are for me are the One of the most interesting one, about God BlackSun Sorath I like that he has this ability to close and identify the not only EGO but the consciousness in itself , imagine like our own mind is like a literal salami code in numbers such as 9629672136 , a huge length each number meaning something , being connected to something and overall identifying and exposing your literal being , like seeing yourself from a game developer , seeing your own code of how you function and the ability to absorb from the God's can make Us as Them , we just have to follow Them , be wise and evolve ourselves , nothing comes up for free, although they are Great and Benevolent They surely do not respect or like lazy asses.

We are the most humans beings , when someone is sad and having bad thoughts and lose hope they should always remained themselves how truly beyond Blessed we truly are to have encounter such God's , We are their Descendants and many have risen up there as God's themselves , although you're thinking about overall fate of our own specie and civilization you should view Life from a single life player point of view as well, even if things end up, no matter what or how , that do not mean you will be gone as well, you could have been thousands light years away chilling in other constelation's or even other galaxies , God Beelzebul is known as Being the Strongest God and Ruler of the Universe and being the representation of the greatest manifestation itself shows it all, but God Beelzebul has been traveling in the entire Universe , same as Father Satan, but Father Satan is more complex because He's not just a being he's somehow the literally all being's and all the Universe but beyond it, existing so far away, coming from some place which you could imagine as either a complete whiteness of nothingness from which everything has came in and settle into the "Universe" , I like to think and say that Dreams for instance are part of Father Satan realm , there anything can happen , there's no limits , that shows the highest point of creativity itself , there's many secrets and mysteries to be discovered , but as per our God's overall and God Beelzebul my point that I was about to make is that They traveled everywhere and have very good and strong alliances as well, They are travelers , Their technology is vast and They as only just Beings are powerful , could and surely travels only with their Own Mind's , when We contact and connect with them.

Strive to become a God, no matter what happens , you would be Eternal my friend.

 

[Minze666]

Is the 'k' in Munka supposed to be guttural, or not? On the site page where it's mentioned, Maxine says:

"This is pronounced 'MMUUUUUU-NNNN-YAH-KAH.' ... The above example for the pronunciation is 100% correct and works wonders."

So if I'm going with just the site, then the answer is no. But on the forums I've heard/seen people saying it's a guttural ch sound.

 

[Viego]

Is the 'k' in Munka supposed to be guttural, or not? On the site page where it's mentioned, Maxine says:

"This is pronounced 'MMUUUUUU-NNNN-YAH-KAH.' ... The above example for the pronunciation is 100% correct and works wonders."

So if I'm going with just the site, then the answer is no. But on the forums I've heard/seen people saying it's a guttural ch sound.

This is tougher to be explained , it all depends on each other native languages , for instance I have spelled it MMMMM UUUU NNNN IIIII KKKK AAAA but I'm Romanian native , my I is not the same as the English I , it would be good if we could do a section of vibrations for all the things not just the runes which we already do have same applies for some mantra's which we do have the vibration audio on the sites.

 

[zzzz]

I cast black magic on particular people. It can happen numerous times a day. It happens spontaneously (I can not hold it back / I can not contain it).

- How do I nullify the energy after it has been cast (during times like waxing moons, mars retrogrades, etc)?
- Also, if possible; how do I cast the energy but, instead of nullify it, I let it be dormant until I need it to be active? (Like casting black magic during mars retrograde, but letting the energy stay dormant until I need it to be active when the retrograde has ended- so a backfire doesn't occur).

I request to not be told to "learn to contain it", because I already know I should do that. I just want to know how to nullify and/or program it to be dormant in those spontaneous moments when I absolutely can not contain it.

 

[Minze666]

With a freeing ritual for negative karma, does it matter if you stipulate "in a healthy and positive way"? It feels grammatically superfluous when tacked on to an affirmation stated in the present tense.

I would affirm "I am totally and completely free of all negative karma that prevents me from being wealthy." Does anyone see what I mean? Does it matter for this kind of working? Would it be fine to leave that as is?

 

[AFODO]

Does it matter for this kind of working?

Yes, very much.

"I am totally and completely free of all negative karma that prevents me from being wealthy."

You can either attach "in a healthy and positive way for me", or "in the most beneficial way for me", or something like this. Whatever makes sense for you. But you should include a similar suffix.

 

[zzzz]

the pagan religions (hindu, norse, greek, roman, egyptian, sumerian, etc etc) each depicted our gods in different ways. why is this? why did each civilisation have a different depiction of the same god?

 

[JimboDivine]

I'm new to communicating with demons but so far when I have requested a demon to be present with me I have felt intense energy immediatly, tingles up my spine and in my faces cheeks. When I ask a yes/no question and ask for sign for a yes and sign for a no, I will recieve energy up my spine in response. However its very intense and short how long the communications last. It seems they dissappear as quickly as they appear. Anyone able to advice me on what this could mean?

 

[Karnonnos [JG]]

With a freeing ritual for negative karma, does it matter if you stipulate "in a healthy and positive way"? It feels grammatically superfluous when tacked on to an affirmation stated in the present tense.

I would affirm "I am totally and completely free of all negative karma that prevents me from being wealthy." Does anyone see what I mean? Does it matter for this kind of working? Would it be fine to leave that as is?

No. it's not superfluous because present tense is the basic structure for any verbal affirmation. The 'healthy' or 'best' part can make you avoid a lot of things that can cause serious destabilization, risk.

You can do your affirmation but it's going to give you a harder ride because this is like potentially (not NECESSARILY, just potentially) saying 'I'm totally free of it in a way that can be highly ruthless, life and death situations, make or break money NOW, etc'.

For many people, realistically, the 'easiest' route to being wealthy is being thrown into the frying pan. The frying pan may be far too hot for them or others around them to handle.

 

[serpentwalker666]

For many people, realistically, the 'easiest' route to being wealthy is being thrown into the frying pan. The frying pan may be far too hot for them or others around them to handle.

Could elaborate more on what you mean here or offer an example?

I feel it would be helpful for other members. This part really caught my eye for that reason.

 

[Minze666]

No. it's not superfluous because present tense is the basic structure for any verbal affirmation. The 'healthy' or 'best' part can make you avoid a lot of things that can cause serious destabilization, risk.

You can do your affirmation but it's going to give you a harder ride because this is like potentially (not NECESSARILY, just potentially) saying 'I'm totally free of it in a way that can be highly ruthless, life and death situations, make or break money NOW, etc'.

For many people, realistically, the 'easiest' route to being wealthy is being thrown into the frying pan. The frying pan may be far too hot for them or others around them to handle.

Hopefully it gets added to the site soon. Seems a bit vital to still not be included. I'll do "In the most healthy and positive way for me, I am now totally and permanently free... "

 

[Henu the Great]

I'm new to communicating with demons but so far when I have requested a demon to be present with me I have felt intense energy immediatly, tingles up my spine and in my faces cheeks. When I ask a yes/no question and ask for sign for a yes and sign for a no, I will recieve energy up my spine in response. However its very intense and short how long the communications last. It seems they dissappear as quickly as they appear. Anyone able to advice me on what this could mean?

You have been in contact with a Demon, or other highly advanced being.

 

[WoadWarrior]

I'm new to communicating with demons but so far when I have requested a demon to be present with me I have felt intense energy immediatly, tingles up my spine and in my faces cheeks. When I ask a yes/no question and ask for sign for a yes and sign for a no, I will recieve energy up my spine in response. However its very intense and short how long the communications last. It seems they dissappear as quickly as they appear. Anyone able to advice me on what this could mean?

thats pretty much how I communicate my Guardian Demon.

 

[Karnonnos [JG]]

Hopefully it gets added to the site soon. Seems a bit vital to still not be included. I'll do "In the most healthy and positive way for me, I am now totally and permanently free... "

It is on the site.

Energy does not have the reasoning power as to *HOW* what you want is coming to you. Energy takes the path of least resistance, unless it is programmed. For example, many of you want more money. Don't just affirm: "Money is coming to me." This could manifest, if undirected, say on a job where you handle money, like a cashier for example, or through your paycheck, as usual. That is the easiest way. You have to further affirm: "Large amounts of free and easy money are coming to me." "This money is all mine to keep and spend as I wish." You should also affirm "in a very positive and happy way for me". You don't want a loved one to die and leave you an inheritance or get the money in a way that would be unpleasant. So your affirmation would go something like this: "Large amounts of free and easy money are coming to me. This money is all mine to keep and spend as I please. This money is coming to me in a very positive and happy way for me."

Affirmations should be repeated with intent, three to ten times or more, in your mind. You can also visualize energy as with step three, throughout the day and state your affirmations a few times to reinforce the working.

ALWAYS REMEMBER: ENERGY TAKES THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE AND DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO REASON.

Another example is weight loss. You don't want to wind up getting seriously ill, as this is one of the easiest ways to drastically lose weight. Your mind can do it for you when properly programmed, for example affirm: "I am losing weight in a very positive and healthy way for me."

With step three, you direct the energy. You do this through visualization. Energy using white magick should be visualized as a white-gold light, shining brilliant like the Sun. The white-gold is the astral energy that you infuse the intent of your visualizations with. This infuses energy into your working so that it manifests in the material world.

 

[Minze666]

It is on the site.

It's on that page, but not all. The inconsistency is what I personally believe lead to my confusion. The directions for the working omit it entirely.
There's also two different pages for the Lakshmi mantra that give two different versions of the mantra, different moon placements to start, and also omit the need to specify positivity.

Since I haven't been around as long I'm going mostly with what the site says and not community consensus arrived at on the forums.
I don't want to sound negative or critical and I think it's hard for me not to, and I dislike it, but I have to say that information on the site should be broadly consistent, for the sake of newcomers.

 

[Henu the Great]

It's on that page, but not all. The inconsistency is what I personally believe lead to my confusion. The directions for the working omit it entirely.
There's also two different pages for the Lakshmi mantra that give two different versions of the mantra, different moon placements to start, and also omit the need to specify positivity.

Since I haven't been around as long I'm going mostly with what the site says and not community consensus arrived at on the forums.
I don't want to sound negative or critical and I think it's hard for me not to, and I dislike it, but I have to say that information on the site should be broadly consistent, for the sake of newcomers.

That's why it is important to read through all of the material and use the required mental faculties to put two and two together. Very important and can not be stressed enough.