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SeerOfSS

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So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...
 
Additives are not the issue. Alcohol is a drug and is no good no matter how/where/by whom it is made. Meditate and do yoga you'll feel a million times better than what the liquid jew does to you. Compared to effects of consistent power meditation, even after a slight bit of progress, alcohol brings one down. It feels shitty to drink because it dulls the spiritual energies. And why would you want to ruin a meal with that shit tasting stuff? Nobody likes the taste of any form of alcohol the first time, aside from maybe some premixed stuff that has a ton of sugar and flavourings in it. They like the effects of the drug and they delude themselves into liking the taste either by association or as an excuse to get the effects. And it would likely take you years of total commitment, growing your own grapes, trial and error, etc etc to MAYBE make a wine that isn't absolute garbage to those who drink the stuff.
Yes it's your choice but so is a lot of dumb shit.
 
SeerOfSS said:
Way_Seeker666 said:
Additives are not the issue. Alcohol is a drug and is no good no matter how/where/by whom it is made. Meditate and do yoga you'll feel a million times better than what the liquid jew does to you. Compared to effects of consistent power meditation, even after a slight bit of progress, alcohol brings one down. It feels shitty to drink because it dulls the spiritual energies. And why would you want to ruin a meal with that shit tasting stuff? Nobody likes the taste of any form of alcohol the first time, aside from maybe some premixed stuff that has a ton of sugar and flavourings in it. They like the effects of the drug and they delude themselves into liking the taste either by association or as an excuse to get the effects. And it would likely take you years of total commitment, growing your own grapes, trial and error, etc etc to MAYBE make a wine that isn't absolute garbage to those who drink the stuff.
Yes it's your choice but so is a lot of dumb shit.

Ahh... Big disappointment.

I guess this will be another thing I will not see an answer to.

'Yes it's your choice but so is a lot of dumb shit." guess can't be helped, not many can speak without adding attacks to others.

Oh well.. Will wait a little longer then will delete the post.

I did answer you and what I said is the truth. If you take that as an attack you are either ridiculously sensitive or the alcohol has a hold on you and you can't handle being told it's no good.
You can choose to drink, or do drugs, or drive intoxicated, or have unprotected sex, or a thousand other dumb things. The fact that it's your choice doesn't remove the consequences and all I did was point those out.
It seems you were looking for validation instead of reality. That isn't going to happen here.
 
The real answer on this, is that alcohol is deemed unacceptable as general advice on this forum because in good conscience, how could we promote such use? Knowing the negative effects? However the reality is a little different. If a person drinks a glass of wine with dinner or has a beer after a long day of work or on a hot summers day, what is the problem? There isn’t one. No drunkenness results from it and it’s just a drink at that point. When people get drunk this is whole other issue. Even Mageson said once the reason he doesn’t drink is cause he tells us not to. But acknowledged that in reality he could have a drink from time to time and it wouldn’t be a problem. But in his role as a leader here he must set the example. So he doesn’t drink.

If you wish to make your own wine for private responsible consumption, that’s your choice if you’re an adult. You don’t need to ask us here for permission.
 
Way_Seeker666 said:
SeerOfSS said:
Way_Seeker666 said:
Additives are not the issue. Alcohol is a drug and is no good no matter how/where/by whom it is made. Meditate and do yoga you'll feel a million times better than what the liquid jew does to you. Compared to effects of consistent power meditation, even after a slight bit of progress, alcohol brings one down. It feels shitty to drink because it dulls the spiritual energies. And why would you want to ruin a meal with that shit tasting stuff? Nobody likes the taste of any form of alcohol the first time, aside from maybe some premixed stuff that has a ton of sugar and flavourings in it. They like the effects of the drug and they delude themselves into liking the taste either by association or as an excuse to get the effects. And it would likely take you years of total commitment, growing your own grapes, trial and error, etc etc to MAYBE make a wine that isn't absolute garbage to those who drink the stuff.
Yes it's your choice but so is a lot of dumb shit.

Ahh... Big disappointment.

I guess this will be another thing I will not see an answer to.

'Yes it's your choice but so is a lot of dumb shit." guess can't be helped, not many can speak without adding attacks to others.

Oh well.. Will wait a little longer then will delete the post.

I did answer you and what I said is the truth. If you take that as an attack you are either ridiculously sensitive or the alcohol has a hold on you and you can't handle being told it's no good.
You can choose to drink, or do drugs, or drive intoxicated, or have unprotected sex, or a thousand other dumb things. The fact that it's your choice doesn't remove the consequences and all I did was point those out.
It seems you were looking for validation instead of reality. That isn't going to happen here.

No you didn't answer my question.
What i seek you cant give me for you don't it.

Also what you said is all common, things I already knew about it for i have read about it before as I stated it.

I guess I should've been more clear on my question, then again I didn't think you would be assuming things. (About me)

Its not about pointing out things. Its about how you word things.
No not saying be careful and no not saying don't do it but like you said there is also consequences.

Oh thank you for telling me how I feel. I didn't know you where me.

Yes your so right I was looking for validation especially here in the group.
(Understand sarcasm, I hope)

Where did I say anything like that?
Did I say anything about I in it? Or you read it and assumed and or put the words in there?

Again you didn't answer my question and what you said is already known. (No I'm not a know at all, that's why I'm asking a question.)
 
SeerOfSS said:
Way_Seeker666 said:
SeerOfSS said:
Ahh... Big disappointment.

I guess this will be another thing I will not see an answer to.

'Yes it's your choice but so is a lot of dumb shit." guess can't be helped, not many can speak without adding attacks to others.

Oh well.. Will wait a little longer then will delete the post.

I did answer you and what I said is the truth. If you take that as an attack you are either ridiculously sensitive or the alcohol has a hold on you and you can't handle being told it's no good.
You can choose to drink, or do drugs, or drive intoxicated, or have unprotected sex, or a thousand other dumb things. The fact that it's your choice doesn't remove the consequences and all I did was point those out.
It seems you were looking for validation instead of reality. That isn't going to happen here.

No you didn't answer my question.
What i seek you cant give me for you don't it.

Also what you said is all common, things I already knew about it for i have read about it before as I stated it.

I guess I should've been more clear on my question, then again I didn't think you would be assuming things. (About me)

Its not about pointing out things. Its about how you word things.
No not saying be careful and no not saying don't do it but like you said there is also consequences.

Oh thank you for telling me how I feel. I didn't know you where me.

Yes your so right I was looking for validation especially here in the group.
(Understand sarcasm, I hope)

Where did I say anything like that?
Did I say anything about I in it? Or you read it and assumed and or put the words in there?

Again you didn't answer my question and what you said is already known. (No I'm not a know at all, that's why I'm asking a question.)


You asked if it's ok, I advised you that alcohol is toxic garbage and you're better off without it. You spazzed out because you didn't get a yes like you wanted, and took offence to my wording. Now you're sapzzing out more in a childish over reaction to having your actions pointed out.
You can drink. You don't need anyone's permission. But if you ask a question it should be because you want the truth, not because you want a specific answer IE validation.
 
SeerOfSS said:
So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...
If you throw yourself into a fire, then that is the same as someone else throwing you into a fire. Homemade or factory-manufactured, alcohol is still poison, but each individual decides to drink it or to not drink it. In the future when the jew puts soldiers on drugs by a tube into their nose which is connected to a pouch of powder, people will be asking the same question but about that.
 
SeerOfSS said:
So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...
I will speak to you from personal experience. The same rule applies to every product, higher price = higher quality. If you buy the product from a certified company, the added substances are safe and are used for the preservation of the product. The situation changes for cheap products, they are corrupted in content with a cheap substitute and therefore are of poor quality. If you want to produce it yourself, it will be of high quality but also the price will be high, hard work the land, water, insecticides, time. Find out and see if you can afford it. You can buy land but you can't buy time. If you are employed full time, it will be very difficult but not impossible. All in all, it is cheaper to buy it.

I don't know if it is necessary to consume alcohol but it should not be abused with anything. Sugar is essential for the body, it is the main source of energy for all cells but if it is abused with sugar, it can lead to deadly consequences. But alcohol has no nutritional or useful and necessary role in any way and for anything for the body. Alcohol is only a medium strength sedative drug, not to be underestimated. And it is used for fun and relaxation. Wine and beer also have other properties while spirits such as vodka for example are distilled water and 35-45% alcohol. I don't know what humanity will do with alcohol in the future but cigarettes must be prohibited. Smoking has no beneficial effect on the body, on the contrary it is only harm and destruction. And the harder drugs must of course be prohibited.
 
I really cant say this is something that was totally prohibited in all ways all the time in the ancient times cause we all know it wasnt.

If it was something new though it totally would not be legal at all and for good reason.

If your going to do it here is some advice. Check your chart if you have anything around 25 degrees of fixed signs avoid this like the plague. Also if you have a genetic tendency towards problems with this avoid it as well.

I do have something important at 25 degrees Aquarius which on the JOS fixed stars and degrees site clearly says is a degree of alchoholism. I also as well have a genetic tendency towards problems with alchohol that I was told many times when I was younger. I should have listened to this I started using this and had many problems with it. I withdrew from it physically at least 5 or 6 times. I could not control how much I drank a lot of the time if I started. I also was way more moody and argumentative when using it. Even a few days after.

So this is just my thoughts on this obviously I am not going to use it again. If you use it anyways and are aware of something like what I said with yourself it's on you your problems dont complain later about it cause you did it to yourself.

Good luck.
 
Way_Seeker666 said:
SeerOfSS said:
Way_Seeker666 said:
I did answer you and what I said is the truth. If you take that as an attack you are either ridiculously sensitive or the alcohol has a hold on you and you can't handle being told it's no good.
You can choose to drink, or do drugs, or drive intoxicated, or have unprotected sex, or a thousand other dumb things. The fact that it's your choice doesn't remove the consequences and all I did was point those out.
It seems you were looking for validation instead of reality. That isn't going to happen here.

No you didn't answer my question.
What i seek you cant give me for you don't it.

Also what you said is all common, things I already knew about it for i have read about it before as I stated it.

I guess I should've been more clear on my question, then again I didn't think you would be assuming things. (About me)

Its not about pointing out things. Its about how you word things.
No not saying be careful and no not saying don't do it but like you said there is also consequences.

Oh thank you for telling me how I feel. I didn't know you where me.

Yes your so right I was looking for validation especially here in the group.
(Understand sarcasm, I hope)

Where did I say anything like that?
Did I say anything about I in it? Or you read it and assumed and or put the words in there?

Again you didn't answer my question and what you said is already known. (No I'm not a know at all, that's why I'm asking a question.)


You asked if it's ok, I advised you that alcohol is toxic garbage and you're better off without it. You spazzed out because you didn't get a yes like you wanted, and took offence to my wording. Now you're sapzzing out more in a childish over reaction to having your actions pointed out.
You can drink. You don't need anyone's permission. But if you ask a question it should be because you want the truth, not because you want a specific answer IE validation.

Please go away, I already made my point you didn't answer what im looking for and you are oblivious to what I was getting at.
 
Eric13 said:
The real answer on this, is that alcohol is deemed unacceptable as general advice on this forum because in good conscience, how could we promote such use? Knowing the negative effects? However the reality is a little different. If a person drinks a glass of wine with dinner or has a beer after a long day of work or on a hot summers day, what is the problem? There isn’t one. No drunkenness results from it and it’s just a drink at that point. When people get drunk this is whole other issue. Even Mageson said once the reason he doesn’t drink is cause he tells us not to. But acknowledged that in reality he could have a drink from time to time and it wouldn’t be a problem. But in his role as a leader here he must set the example. So he doesn’t drink.

If you wish to make your own wine for private responsible consumption, that’s your choice if you’re an adult. You don’t need to ask us here for permission.

Thank you for the info, there's a few things there I did not know.
That will help me on some things I'm pondering.
 
Master said:
SeerOfSS said:
So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...


I will speak to you from personal experience. The same rule applies to every product, higher price = higher quality. If you buy the product from a certified company, the added substances are safe and are used for the preservation of the product. The situation changes for cheap products, they are corrupted in content with a cheap substitute and therefore are of poor quality. If you want to produce it yourself, it will be of high quality but also the price will be high, hard work the land, water, insecticides, time. Find out and see if you can afford it. You can buy land but you can't buy time. If you are employed full time, it will be very difficult but not impossible. All in all, it is cheaper to buy it.

I don't know if it is necessary to consume alcohol but it should not be abused with anything. Sugar is essential for the body, it is the main source of energy for all cells but if it is abused with sugar, it can lead to deadly consequences. But alcohol has no nutritional or useful and necessary role in any way and for anything for the body. Alcohol is only a medium strength sedative drug, not to be underestimated. And it is used for fun and relaxation. Wine and beer also have other properties while spirits such as vodka for example are distilled water and 35-45% alcohol. I don't know what humanity will do with alcohol in the future but cigarettes must be prohibited. Smoking has no beneficial effect on the body, on the contrary it is only harm and destruction. And the harder drugs must of course be prohibited.
 
Master said:
SeerOfSS said:
So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...

I will speak to you from personal experience. The same rule applies to every product, higher price = higher quality. If you buy the product from a certified company, the added substances are safe and are used for the preservation of the product. The situation changes for cheap products, they are corrupted in content with a cheap substitute and therefore are of poor quality. If you want to produce it yourself, it will be of high quality but also the price will be high, hard work the land, water, insecticides, time. Find out and see if you can afford it. You can buy land but you can't buy time. If you are employed full time, it will be very difficult but not impossible. All in all, it is cheaper to buy it.

I don't know if it is necessary to consume alcohol but it should not be abused with anything. Sugar is essential for the body, it is the main source of energy for all cells but if it is abused with sugar, it can lead to deadly consequences. But alcohol has no nutritional or useful and necessary role in any way and for anything for the body. Alcohol is only a medium strength sedative drug, not to be underestimated. And it is used for fun and relaxation. Wine and beer also have other properties while spirits such as vodka for example are distilled water and 35-45% alcohol. I don't know what humanity will do with alcohol in the future but cigarettes must be prohibited. Smoking has no beneficial effect on the body, on the contrary it is only harm and destruction. And the harder drugs must of course be prohibited.

Mm.. Based on what I know the higher quality is only on the fruit. Other wise everything else is the same. Sulfate added, acid added, and few other things. To control the alcohol level and the yeast along with clearing out the wine and such.

None the least things to think about on what you said.

As for making it, its actually just as easy as making bread. Of course with buying all the stuff.
None the least putting it together is easy, its time that it needs a lot of it.

Mm.. The sedative part makes sense.. Which brings me another question. Based on some info I found. Alcohol was created before christianity.
Though was that only for pharmacy?

I mean now vodka is also or can be at least used as a cleaner on a wound...

The future of it, is something I would like to know...
None the least agree with the ban on many things cigarettes one of them.

Though with a ban... As history has shown it may not work.. Or would it be very different with it...

Anyways thank you, that helps me.
 
slyscorpion said:
I really cant say this is something that was totally prohibited in all ways all the time in the ancient times cause we all know it wasnt.

If it was something new though it totally would not be legal at all and for good reason.

If your going to do it here is some advice. Check your chart if you have anything around 25 degrees of fixed signs avoid this like the plague. Also if you have a genetic tendency towards problems with this avoid it as well.

I do have something important at 25 degrees Aquarius which on the JOS fixed stars and degrees site clearly says is a degree of alchoholism. I also as well have a genetic tendency towards problems with alchohol that I was told many times when I was younger. I should have listened to this I started using this and had many problems with it. I withdrew from it physically at least 5 or 6 times. I could not control how much I drank a lot of the time if I started. I also was way more moody and argumentative when using it. Even a few days after.

So this is just my thoughts on this obviously I am not going to use it again. If you use it anyways and are aware of something like what I said with yourself it's on you your problems dont complain later about it cause you did it to yourself.

Good luck.

Thanks for the point out, I already had my chart done. So I know the out come of it. None the least if I have a sip its a shot of wine lol.. Once a blue moon or when I'm really stressed.

The alcohol, it made you aggressive from my understand on read your reply.
Witch makes me think, is that do to the past sense its different for everyone.
For me it makes me more tired and wanting to sleep but if I drink a lot (keep in mind that's more before the group and one slip up after the group do to other factors)
It really shakes me up and its a feeling I hate like I have no complete control of my self but never drunk till passed out.

One of my family is an alcohol, friendly guy really is but cant go without drinking and my uncle found him before passed out on his floor.

Anyways that is history that is annoying.

None the least, new things to think about also.
Thanks
 
SeerOfSS said:
you didn't answer what im looking for

Der der wittle wun, daz OK, hav a dwink to feewl betta. Of coz iz OK to dwink, jus wike yoo wunt.

There's the answer you want. Coddled and validated like a baby.

Don't tell me from behind your haze of denial that I'm oblivious. I answered straight to the core of your question and you got upset because you didn't want the truth you wanted to be told "yes it's ok".

This seeking of validation, and unwillingness to consider personal shortcomings that are pointed out to you is nothing but weakness and will only stand in your way. Get real and grow instead of wasting your time with pointless nonsense. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to get a point across to you, for your own good.
 
SeerOfSS said:
slyscorpion said:
I really cant say this is something that was totally prohibited in all ways all the time in the ancient times cause we all know it wasnt.

If it was something new though it totally would not be legal at all and for good reason.

If your going to do it here is some advice. Check your chart if you have anything around 25 degrees of fixed signs avoid this like the plague. Also if you have a genetic tendency towards problems with this avoid it as well.

I do have something important at 25 degrees Aquarius which on the JOS fixed stars and degrees site clearly says is a degree of alchoholism. I also as well have a genetic tendency towards problems with alchohol that I was told many times when I was younger. I should have listened to this I started using this and had many problems with it. I withdrew from it physically at least 5 or 6 times. I could not control how much I drank a lot of the time if I started. I also was way more moody and argumentative when using it. Even a few days after.

So this is just my thoughts on this obviously I am not going to use it again. If you use it anyways and are aware of something like what I said with yourself it's on you your problems dont complain later about it cause you did it to yourself.

Good luck.

Thanks for the point out, I already had my chart done. So I know the out come of it. None the least if I have a sip its a shot of wine lol.. Once a blue moon or when I'm really stressed.

The alcohol, it made you aggressive from my understand on read your reply.
Witch makes me think, is that do to the past sense its different for everyone.
For me it makes me more tired and wanting to sleep but if I drink a lot (keep in mind that's more before the group and one slip up after the group do to other factors)
It really shakes me up and its a feeling I hate like I have no complete control of my self but never drunk till passed out.

One of my family is an alcohol, friendly guy really is but cant go without drinking and my uncle found him before passed out on his floor.

Anyways that is history that is annoying.

None the least, new things to think about also.
Thanks

I also have reason to suspect this isnt the only lifetime I had problems with it. I will say people probably really are better off without this at all.

It creates a really sad hopeless desperate feeling both in this life and my recent past one withdrawaling from this and having to have it etc. In fact that was such a traumatic thing it was the only strong past life memory I had at all most this life till recently when I meditated. Except this life I didnt really have anyone to talk to during it unlike last one. It was the same kind of feeling this time though.

If you drink to much for a while it really will mess up your mental state to the point you may even have to take something just to get off it or it could be really dangerous. This really is a bad drug not to mention it has a really low vibration.

Why is your history annoying anyways. You probably should remember stuff like this if you dont want to repeat the same mistakes again. The way you are talking about this and not really wanting to give it up is the same kind of thing I was talking about with me and I knew I had a problem until this year actually with it. It kind of was the last thing for me to give up.

Even if you dont drink for awhile and are not physically dependent at the moment you still can have a problem and junkey thinking as they call it.
 
slyscorpion said:
SeerOfSS said:
slyscorpion said:
I really cant say this is something that was totally prohibited in all ways all the time in the ancient times cause we all know it wasnt.

If it was something new though it totally would not be legal at all and for good reason.

If your going to do it here is some advice. Check your chart if you have anything around 25 degrees of fixed signs avoid this like the plague. Also if you have a genetic tendency towards problems with this avoid it as well.

I do have something important at 25 degrees Aquarius which on the JOS fixed stars and degrees site clearly says is a degree of alchoholism. I also as well have a genetic tendency towards problems with alchohol that I was told many times when I was younger. I should have listened to this I started using this and had many problems with it. I withdrew from it physically at least 5 or 6 times. I could not control how much I drank a lot of the time if I started. I also was way more moody and argumentative when using it. Even a few days after.

So this is just my thoughts on this obviously I am not going to use it again. If you use it anyways and are aware of something like what I said with yourself it's on you your problems dont complain later about it cause you did it to yourself.

Good luck.

Thanks for the point out, I already had my chart done. So I know the out come of it. None the least if I have a sip its a shot of wine lol.. Once a blue moon or when I'm really stressed.

The alcohol, it made you aggressive from my understand on read your reply.
Witch makes me think, is that do to the past sense its different for everyone.
For me it makes me more tired and wanting to sleep but if I drink a lot (keep in mind that's more before the group and one slip up after the group do to other factors)
It really shakes me up and its a feeling I hate like I have no complete control of my self but never drunk till passed out.

One of my family is an alcohol, friendly guy really is but cant go without drinking and my uncle found him before passed out on his floor.

Anyways that is history that is annoying.

None the least, new things to think about also.
Thanks

I also have reason to suspect this isnt the only lifetime I had problems with it. I will say people probably really are better off without this at all.

It creates a really sad hopeless desperate feeling both in this life and my recent past one withdrawaling from this and having to have it etc. In fact that was such a traumatic thing it was the only strong past life memory I had at all most this life till recently when I meditated. Except this life I didnt really have anyone to talk to during it unlike last one. It was the same kind of feeling this time though.

If you drink to much for a while it really will mess up your mental state to the point you may even have to take something just to get off it or it could be really dangerous. This really is a bad drug not to mention it has a really low vibration.

Why is your history annoying anyways. You probably should remember stuff like this if you dont want to repeat the same mistakes again. The way you are talking about this and not really wanting to give it up is the same kind of thing I was talking about with me and I knew I had a problem until this year actually with it. It kind of was the last thing for me to give up.

Even if you dont drink for awhile and are not physically dependent at the moment you still can have a problem and junkey thinking as they call it.

Can not disagree, or at least massive control.
Then again its hard to say, i know this much though. At the moment alcohol is the escape from the unhappy life for many.
Bars and such do fantastic around that.

Mm.. On your experience sounds like back then the alcohol may had also been a way to escape whatever was done.
(I'm just thinking aloud on based what you said though)

Based on the info that alcohol predates (unless the info I found is false) Christianity. It may have been a substance that was used to distance everyone and create an aggressive group that killed and kept drinking. (Of course that may have been brought up already, have not found that info in the group yet, so still looking, if its true or me jist thinking to hard)

Alcohol withdrawal is a big part of alcoholic's and taking meds for it help.
My family member tried the med but still drank with it from what I recall at least.

Its annoying because it's a past that should not have been there.
None the least me talking about is an understanding of what else to learn for other reasons, (((( are you asking or stating I have a hang up of alcohol or that I'm looking for it?))) when I was alot your and start drinking here and there it was only for a little then I went to sleep or went to the bathroom first lol)

The think about alcohol though its also used in culinary, of course the alcohol part is evaporated from it so only the wine flavor is left.
So that is another reason be something to see how it changes with it.


Not sure what you mean about junkey thinking on this case. It may come to me after I submit this though or not...mm...

Mm... Would ask more and talk more about this but I got enough info and the rest I will look other places, will be wiser.

Thanks
 
1 or 2 glasses of wine with dinner is a lot.... at that rate it's not going to be the additives but the amount of alcohol that does you harm
If you want to go for homemade wine, all you have to do is take some homemade fruit juice, throw yeast in, and wait a few months (open it once a day to let all the air from fermentation out in the first few weeks).
 
SeerOfSS said:
slyscorpion said:
SeerOfSS said:
Thanks for the point out, I already had my chart done. So I know the out come of it. None the least if I have a sip its a shot of wine lol.. Once a blue moon or when I'm really stressed.

The alcohol, it made you aggressive from my understand on read your reply.
Witch makes me think, is that do to the past sense its different for everyone.
For me it makes me more tired and wanting to sleep but if I drink a lot (keep in mind that's more before the group and one slip up after the group do to other factors)
It really shakes me up and its a feeling I hate like I have no complete control of my self but never drunk till passed out.

One of my family is an alcohol, friendly guy really is but cant go without drinking and my uncle found him before passed out on his floor.

Anyways that is history that is annoying.

None the least, new things to think about also.
Thanks

I also have reason to suspect this isnt the only lifetime I had problems with it. I will say people probably really are better off without this at all.

It creates a really sad hopeless desperate feeling both in this life and my recent past one withdrawaling from this and having to have it etc. In fact that was such a traumatic thing it was the only strong past life memory I had at all most this life till recently when I meditated. Except this life I didnt really have anyone to talk to during it unlike last one. It was the same kind of feeling this time though.

If you drink to much for a while it really will mess up your mental state to the point you may even have to take something just to get off it or it could be really dangerous. This really is a bad drug not to mention it has a really low vibration.

Why is your history annoying anyways. You probably should remember stuff like this if you dont want to repeat the same mistakes again. The way you are talking about this and not really wanting to give it up is the same kind of thing I was talking about with me and I knew I had a problem until this year actually with it. It kind of was the last thing for me to give up.

Even if you dont drink for awhile and are not physically dependent at the moment you still can have a problem and junkey thinking as they call it.

Can not disagree, or at least massive control.
Then again its hard to say, i know this much though. At the moment alcohol is the escape from the unhappy life for many.
Bars and such do fantastic around that.

Mm.. On your experience sounds like back then the alcohol may had also been a way to escape whatever was done.
(I'm just thinking aloud on based what you said though)

Based on the info that alcohol predates (unless the info I found is false) Christianity. It may have been a substance that was used to distance everyone and create an aggressive group that killed and kept drinking. (Of course that may have been brought up already, have not found that info in the group yet, so still looking, if its true or me jist thinking to hard)

Alcohol withdrawal is a big part of alcoholic's and taking meds for it help.
My family member tried the med but still drank with it from what I recall at least.

Its annoying because it's a past that should not have been there.
None the least me talking about is an understanding of what else to learn for other reasons, (((( are you asking or stating I have a hang up of alcohol or that I'm looking for it?))) when I was alot your and start drinking here and there it was only for a little then I went to sleep or went to the bathroom first lol)

The think about alcohol though its also used in culinary, of course the alcohol part is evaporated from it so only the wine flavor is left.
So that is another reason be something to see how it changes with it.


Not sure what you mean about junkey thinking on this case. It may come to me after I submit this though or not...mm...

Mm... Would ask more and talk more about this but I got enough info and the rest I will look other places, will be wiser.

Thanks
The effects of alcohol on the body


Prolonged alcohol consumption can cause liver cells to lose their regenerative abilities and can cause cirrhosis.

The effects of alcohol on the body are innumerable and depend above all on ethanol, a psychoactive drug that causes many side effects that seriously alter the body. In this case, the amount of alcohol ingested plays a very important role, as well as the circumstances. If you ingest alcohol on a full stomach, the effects on the body are less. Conversely, if taken on an empty stomach, the effects are far greater. How does alcohol affect the body? The effects of alcohol on the body are of various kinds, since at first it produces a great feeling of satisfaction and cheerfulness, but later it generates blurred vision and serious coordination problems. Cell membranes cannot hold back the passage of alcohol which, finding itself in the blood, spreads to most of the tissues that make up the body. Excessive alcohol consumption makes it easy to lose lucidity and, if consumed in really exaggerated quantities, alcohol poisoning could even lead to death.

This is because a high percentage of alcohol in the blood could cause cardiorespiratory arrest or death from asphyxiation caused by vomiting. After ingesting alcohol, it can take thirty to ninety minutes to reach the blood. At that moment the sugars found in the blood are reduced, causing severe weakness and fatigue. This happens because alcohol accelerates the transformation of glycogen into glucose, which is eliminated more quickly. The stages of ethyl poisoning The effects of alcohol are many and their severity depends on the quantities ingested. Ethyl poisoning is divided into phases: The first is characterized by euphoria, excitement, disinhibition and impulsiveness. The second is that of intoxication: when the body is not used to alcohol, the nervous system is affected, the ability to coordinate movements and balance is lost, often causing falls. Alcohol also causes depression and loss of heat by the body. The third is the hypnotic phase, characterized by much confusion, irritability, restlessness, sleep, nausea, vomiting and headache. The fourth phase is "anesthetic", characterized by strong amazement, meaningless words are said, lucidity is considerably reduced, muscle strength is lost, the urge to urinate is not controlled, it is difficult to breathe. The fifth phase is the one that leads to death: you go into cardiovascular shock, breathing stops and you die. The effects of alcohol on the body The effects of alcohol consumption on the body are many, in the short or long term, and damage many organs.

 To the brain and nervous system Frequent alcohol consumption severely damages brain function. In the first place the emotions, causing sudden mood swings, motor skills are altered making it difficult to pronounce words and causing loss of balance and slowness in movements. It can alter the action of neurotransmitters, modifying their structure and function. This causes several consequences: limited ability to react, slow reflexes, inability to coordinate movements, tremors and hallucinations. Self-control is lost, memory, ability to concentrate and motor functions are severely impaired. All these effects of alcohol cause a great deal of behavioral disturbances and motor accidents that have caused the deaths of a considerable number of people around the world. Alcohol causes severe damage to brain cells, as well as to peripheral nerves; such damage can be permanent. Alcohol can also cause a reduction in vitamin B1, resulting in Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome, which causes the alteration of feelings, thoughts and memory.

Most people who drink alcohol frequently have difficulty sleeping. These people also tend to isolate themselves from the work and family environment, often abandoning the family, divorcing and losing their jobs; all this can degenerate into a deep depression which, in most cases, culminates in suicide. Most of these effects of alcohol occur based on the quantity and frequency with which it is ingested. In very high doses it is possible to go into a coma; in the event that alcohol consumption is exaggeratedly high, very serious mental alterations and permanent brain damage occur. There are periods of anemia, with memory changes for a few minutes or hours or even days. To the heart and respiratory system Increases cardiac activity. The consumption of very high doses can increase blood pressure and arterial pressure, causing damage to the heart muscle following the toxic effect of alcohol. The heart muscle becomes weak and, as a result, the ability to pump blood decreases. Peripheral vasodilation occurs, which causes redness in the skin and an increase in its surface temperature.

To the digestive system: stomach, pancreas, liver and esophagus All gastric disorders are due to the fact that ethanol erodes and irritates the gastric mucosa. This is heartburn, which can increase if you drink more alcohol together. Alcohol increases the production of gastric acid, causing irritation and inflammation in the stomach walls. This condition can cause ulcers and internal bleeding that can be fatal. High alcohol consumption can cause cancer of the stomach, larynx, esophagus and pancreas. It can cause esophagitis, or inflammation of the esophagus, as well as bleeding esophageal varices. Acute pancreatitis occurs, which is severe inflammation of the pancreas that can lead to death. Pancreatitis can also be chronic and cause permanent intense pain. The consumption of alcohol can lead the person to suffer from type II diabetes, with all the serious consequences that this disease causes to those who suffer from it. The organ in charge of metabolizing alcohol is the liver: liver enzymes transform alcohol first into acetaldehyde and then into acetate and other compounds. The process is very slow, so liver tissue damage occurs. Due to hepatic cellular irritation and inflammation, this condition can often degenerate into alcoholic hepatitis. The liver can be affected by first turning into fatty liver, later suffering from possible hepatitis, then again cirrhosis and finally the formation of liver cancer. Damage to this organ can also cause jaundice, or the yellow color of the skin, a yellowish color of the sclera (white part of the eye) and the accumulation of fluids in the limbs.

Renal function is severely impaired, as the levels of the antidiuretic hormone that causes dehydration are reduced. Alcohol provides a large amount of calories with a very low nutritional value, prevents the absorption of some minerals and vitamins, eliminates appetite and, therefore, causes malnutrition. To the blood It prevents the production of white and red blood cells. When there is not enough red blood cells to carry oxygen, megaloblastic anemia occurs. To the immune and reproductive system Lack of white blood cells damages the immune system, thus increasing the risk of contracting bacterial and viral infections. Decreases sexual desire. It can cause infertility and erectile dysfunction. To pregnancy and the fetus Drinking alcohol during pregnancy can cause fetal alcohol syndrome in the fetus. The symptoms of this pathology concern growth retardation, alteration of the craniofacial features, cardiac, hepatic, renal and ocular malformations. The greatest damage occurs in the central nervous system of the fetus, which can present marked mental retardation. Alcohol dependence syndrome or alcoholism This, associated with the large amount of symptoms and diseases associated with it, is by far one of the most serious effects of alcohol.

The hope is that this list with all the serious damage and health problems that alcohol can cause will be of great help to those who cannot control the urge to drink; we hope that in this way these people are able to become aware of the gravity of the situation and that, at least, they ask for help from an expert. Alcoholism rather than a "vice", as it is defined by most people, is instead a serious health problem to pay attention to when you start to feel the desire to drink frequently. If you have a friend, family member or acquaintance with this problem, try to convince them to let themselves be helped and go to a rehabilitation center for alcoholics. In the future he will thank you for this: he will get rid of an innumerable amount of problems, both family and personal and, more importantly, he will solve serious health problems which, if not treated in time, can often be fatal.
 
SeerOfSS said:
slyscorpion said:
SeerOfSS said:
Thanks for the point out, I already had my chart done. So I know the out come of it. None the least if I have a sip its a shot of wine lol.. Once a blue moon or when I'm really stressed.

The alcohol, it made you aggressive from my understand on read your reply.
Witch makes me think, is that do to the past sense its different for everyone.
For me it makes me more tired and wanting to sleep but if I drink a lot (keep in mind that's more before the group and one slip up after the group do to other factors)
It really shakes me up and its a feeling I hate like I have no complete control of my self but never drunk till passed out.

One of my family is an alcohol, friendly guy really is but cant go without drinking and my uncle found him before passed out on his floor.

Anyways that is history that is annoying.

None the least, new things to think about also.
Thanks

I also have reason to suspect this isnt the only lifetime I had problems with it. I will say people probably really are better off without this at all.

It creates a really sad hopeless desperate feeling both in this life and my recent past one withdrawaling from this and having to have it etc. In fact that was such a traumatic thing it was the only strong past life memory I had at all most this life till recently when I meditated. Except this life I didnt really have anyone to talk to during it unlike last one. It was the same kind of feeling this time though.

If you drink to much for a while it really will mess up your mental state to the point you may even have to take something just to get off it or it could be really dangerous. This really is a bad drug not to mention it has a really low vibration.

Why is your history annoying anyways. You probably should remember stuff like this if you dont want to repeat the same mistakes again. The way you are talking about this and not really wanting to give it up is the same kind of thing I was talking about with me and I knew I had a problem until this year actually with it. It kind of was the last thing for me to give up.

Even if you dont drink for awhile and are not physically dependent at the moment you still can have a problem and junkey thinking as they call it.

Can not disagree, or at least massive control.
Then again its hard to say, i know this much though. At the moment alcohol is the escape from the unhappy life for many.
Bars and such do fantastic around that.

Mm.. On your experience sounds like back then the alcohol may had also been a way to escape whatever was done.
(I'm just thinking aloud on based what you said though)

Based on the info that alcohol predates (unless the info I found is false) Christianity. It may have been a substance that was used to distance everyone and create an aggressive group that killed and kept drinking. (Of course that may have been brought up already, have not found that info in the group yet, so still looking, if its true or me jist thinking to hard)

Alcohol withdrawal is a big part of alcoholic's and taking meds for it help.
My family member tried the med but still drank with it from what I recall at least.

Its annoying because it's a past that should not have been there.
None the least me talking about is an understanding of what else to learn for other reasons, (((( are you asking or stating I have a hang up of alcohol or that I'm looking for it?))) when I was alot your and start drinking here and there it was only for a little then I went to sleep or went to the bathroom first lol)

The think about alcohol though its also used in culinary, of course the alcohol part is evaporated from it so only the wine flavor is left.
So that is another reason be something to see how it changes with it.


Not sure what you mean about junkey thinking on this case. It may come to me after I submit this though or not...mm...

Mm... Would ask more and talk more about this but I got enough info and the rest I will look other places, will be wiser.

Thanks

We didnt have a fully spiritual society for a long time even with the Pagan religions being around in "ancient times" to be honest. Since the Jews have been here and probably their various curses and barriers and stuff that make it hard to know the full truth things were deteriorating.

Mainly it was the elites and upper class who were fully spiritual in the more recent ancient times it wasnt the average person still often. While it was still way better than now it was deteriorating slowly more and more with the enemy here.

That wasnt the Golden Ages doubt they had alchohol then.

So alchohol being around in what we know of as the ancient times doesnt mean it's good.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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