Dahaarkan said:
[...] instructing an advanced AI to create something based on someone else's imagination [...]
Ho? You want to laugh it off and insult me? Do you have any idea what I've been doing these last three years? I've been watching you and a bunch of others shit up this place on and off every week and every month and I sat there, silently venting over a bunch of inhumane and unfair crap that was said over the years, I still held myself down while meditating 4-6 hours a day, every single day, I never stopped.
Besides the fact that I take my enormous time when I write replies. I like to be as detailed as possible to show my argument. If i spent all day, every day like some of you do on the forums, I wouldn't just have no time to meditate, i wouldn't have time to appreciate what little life has left to offer me. So yes I need the break, the drama you and others bring to these golden halls is suffocating me and harming my relationship with Satan. I don't want to feel that negativity ever again, so if i have to actually sit down and reason with you why, of all the people in this forum, I sincerely dislike you the most. That's because I want the point to be seen, not just by you, but by those you are harming with your behavior.
Do you know why I don't bother to voice my opinion on most matters? Because I am a very upfront and argumentative person with a lot of imagination. I don't have very kind things to say to a lot of people here, and I also don't want to get in the way either. My restraint is with good intent and with Satan in mind. This action has taught me some measure of patience and to trust some, less others. Maybe some self-restraint would do you good too?
Today, however, by being allied to this monstrosity and hand waving our concerns away, you are thereby effectively attacking the artistic integrity of others with reckless disregard for our collective passion. That includes musicians, actors and writers. These are all being automated too in eventuality. By welcoming this affront to humanity, you are insulting a whole swathe of people with your callous and total disrespect for the effort it took for them to reach their levels. You demonstrate that you would sooner kiss jewish ass in a VR AI stimulation cuck pod than motivate your brothers and sisters in Satan to reach better artistic heights, regardless of what they choose to pursue art in, with reason of course.
You certainly wouldn't have been batting away any of the other responses that went against your ideals of being meritless and of laziness, assuming you we're planning to be honest about authentic art in any capacity, you weren't. After all that might explain why you have no concept of the differences between what amounts to a
pointliner on a piece of paper and a
glorified rgb-light-spinning photocopying machine (BRRRRRRRRR): in other words
you don't know what the creative process is or is about.
Like every other normie out there, you are too dazzled by the wording of the program "artifical intelligence". It's not, you input a prompt and it lifts up an algorithm that sources instructions from a library of stolen artwork. Yes, some of us are aspiring artists and/or professional artists and this absolutely affects us. Instead of discussing ways to combat or go around this corrosion, you very clearly would rather directly attack the creative drive and spirit of SS by posting this jewish cringe. Saying that we are unreasonable for finding any discomfort in any of it.
No amount of auto-generated word salads, synthetic imagery or beeps and boops that derive from HUMAN WORK AND PASSION will ever match up logically, emotionally or spiritually, not even to a fucking banana strapped to a wall: ie show
YOUR work, not the work of
OTHERS (or of a lifeless, soulless automaton). Writers still write, musicians still make music and artists will still make art. Theirs will always have a derivative value, either monetarily or often for nostalgic purposes. The quality of the art isn't what sells the most either, its the value you present with that art.
You like fallout? See this example : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tXzbCVL8Q8
The artwork here is helping evoke what the music is about. Without our memory, experiences and to an extent our imagination (read: the person, not the machine), the sounds that evoke old 80's nostalgia would be an elusive idea to us and so it wouldn't make much sense. This is what gives meaning to this visual art and that specific genre of music. That then becomes a value to those who feel nostalgic about this specific brand of music or brand of art (old movie posters for example). This value is then attached to the art itself which is what helps it be spread everywhere or be bought by people who find an incentive to invest in that piece of art.
That is usually the reason why good artists can and can't make money and inversily bad artists can and can't make money. It just depends on their timing and how they present their material, what are they trying to communicate? What are they trying to evoke? The jewish corporations funding this attack on human emotion are doing this to streamline their production pipeline, their customers are deranged normies who can't put the phone down from gacha games and they need to sell more easily produced anime "waifus". This was never about "artistic freedom", just pure jewish greed masked under "technological advancement" shared freely to blow competition out of the water, they don't care if its easily produced and neither do their customers. Calarts wasnt working out, its time to stupidify high fidelity.
This AI ART software, that you call a "tool" simply takes away the ceiling of quality, bringing it back down beneath ground zero, into the gutter, reducing any potential that level of skill had to almost nothing. Because now everyone can just copy paste someone's work by mixing and matching someone else's work together into an unholy abomination. You are literally, either accidentally or willingly, vouching for the destruction of artistic authenticity. Artistic authenticity also is a layer of truth about seeking to become a better version of yourself, in this case, artistically. You'd want to strive to reach that level of artistic capability and you'd look up to the more capable artists. Just like how we look up to the gods and strive to reach their heights. You are now removing (or at least promoting the removal of) that from the table and making an already almost entirely sterile humanity suck even more ass than it could possibly suck at. At least, regarding art.
Printing/copying with an automaton labeled "ai" will just destroy the value of high visual fidelity (at first, then the rest as it becomes "better"). But don't worry because all of your complaints about artists making art you don't find "truly artistic" will become meaningless, because now there's just going to be even more of that garbage, everywhere. While the artists that stay take the time to evolve around this roadblock, you will be engrossed in this judaized world of synthetic sensories that mean ultimately nothing of true value to humanity. When you see someone tell you that ai wont replace human art, this is what they refer to in concept.
This notion that old artists supposedly would have been using such a "tool" to do their art is totally twisted, lets assume that's the case and they ONLY have access to AI ART (as it is now on 11/16/2022) and nothing else, that means they know art as traditional painting. You ignore the current reality that everyone can now do this for free at no cost or merit (besides having a decent gpu for rendering time). Which means that in such a fairy-tale setting of yours, the old artist would cease to be relevant, nobody would have displayed his art today (historically) and nobody would have fucking cared. Do you know why nobody would have cared back then, like today? Because most people are extremely shallow and most people want to survive, they would have stolen their ideas and made it impossible for the old artist to be recognized due to all the noise (productions) created by everyone else, you know since its
"MoRe AcCeSsIbLe".
This
would be an artist's tool if it allowed you, the artist (a person), to be able to modify it into speeding up your pipeline with
strictly your own art. But instead of this happening, artists are having their work being put inside the program's library (with each new release of SD for example its growing at an alarming rate) without their consent and now anyone who uses this are at huge copyright risks. Any potential you are aspiring to with this "tool" is therefor instantly lost. Its just a glorified photocopier that will get thrown into the copyright landfill, where it belongs. If they make a version where they let you designate where it forks the art from (so you compile
strictly your own art and fork others at your own risk inside your own "ai" art tool or don't be a cheating scumbag) then I will be in agreement that it can be a useful tool for the artist.
But now i need you to stop dreaming about this false reality and wake up to the fact that this is not happening. Especially because you have to factor something really important, you and i are not the only people alive and aware of this tool and you and I (well i dont know about you) might be honest about our intentions, they are not. So unless there are stringent regulations for this (which is coming and many communities and websites ban ai art for obvious reasons that shouldn't be lost on anyone), this is going to blow up in everyone's faces who are using this with the intent to resell the work of others. Deservingly so, either way it goes for allowing this to exist.
We're supposed to alleviate our addictions, not make them worse by relying on automatons to create our passions for us to experience. You draw from the shoulder, not the robot. Pen and Paper -> Tablet -> Self-Control. THAT is the difference. You should be inspiring others to do art, not tell them their progress is fruitless because your coomer friends showed you AI ART "will replace artists" and then laugh at anyone who feels any ounce of discomfort over this.
You basically pretended to feign interest in a discussion about art so that you could spew your pre-packaged nonsense that came from degenerates on 4chan/reddit/twitter (the asshole of the internet). Open your web browser and type "ai art theft", educate yourself and stop trying to convince me this jewish pipe dream is anything but another facet of corrosion on society.
This attempt to cloak this thread under the veneer of ostensibly seeking for a mature discussion about AI "art" which is just a derivative of literal thieves and coomers running around damaging authentic art as a whole is absolutely the most disgusting and vile thing i have ever seen someone post on this entire forum. You can pretend you are the authority on this subject all you want with your lame bait drama, but its not fooling me at all and I see right through you, troll.
We are not thieves here.
Peace.
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Some links of relevant interest :
https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/09/16/1059598/this-artist-is-dominating-ai-generated-art-and-hes-not-happy-about-it/
https://kotaku.com/ai-generated-art-ban-anime-convention-los-angeles-1849788219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6HAsaDwzrI
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2022/10/thief-steals-genshin-impact-fan-art-using-ai-demands-credit-from-creator/
https://kotaku.com/ai-art-dall-e-midjourney-stable-diffusion-copyright-1849388060
https://news.yahoo.com/getty-images-ai-generated-content-ban-153337930.html
https://www.techspot.com/community/topics/ai-generated-images-are-drawing-bans-from-some-art-communities.276995/
https://mindmatters.ai/2019/10/why-ai-art-is-not-art/
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