Ors666 said:
Nice.
StraitShot47 said:
Shael said:
You explained it very clearly, and there were no misunderstandings about your post when I wrote my message.
You are taking things into ridiculous extremes, and present it here in a way that directly offends and alienates entire groups of people for no reason other than you being paranoid and feeling the need to be imposing on other people's lives. You need to take a moment and detach yourself from the normies you live around. Don't equate people here with the same stupidity that those normies may have.
The statement of "we need more white children in order to support our race" is NOT synonymous with "every white person on the planet should be forced or severely socially pressured into having children, regardless of what they want".
For example, if that person you referenced wants to not have kids until the world is in a situation that's better for raising a child, then this is a completely normal and respectable decision. If a gay person wants to stick with their partner and not find a man/woman/sperm-donation in order to raise a kid, then that also is a very normal decision. In fact, most likely a very high percentage of third-sex people would never want to find a partner they are not attracted to for the sole purpose of bearing children.
There are tons more examples, and even in the case of a straight white couple that is financially well off, it still wouldn't be right to attempt to force them into having kids. In 90% of cases, after an environment is created where they can raise kids comfortably, they will end up wanting to have children by themselves anyways.
Whites if possible should have as many kids as they can support or tolerate.
If, for some reason, a white on our side doesn't want kids for any reason then they have to be completely committed to the cause. It should then be that satanic white's duty to fight with the same ferocity to save our planet that our enemy instills. If not exceed the pressure of the enemy.
Our enemies are numerous and wake up every day with new innovations on how to destroy whites. If it is not possible for a white to have kids, then it is that white's duty to match that ferocity spiritually and physically.
A pack, a pride, a group of any particular Animal who is threatened by enemies won't just laze about. All those who are able will fight for the survival of their group. Maybe an enemy bird comes into a bird's nest and tries stealing the eggs or young baby birds - will the parents/group who look after that nest and those eggs/birds just sit back and say "The enemy is too big; I refuse to help"? No wonder Nietzsche said, "Even now, too, man is more ape than any ape".
ShadowTheRaven said:
Jack said:
Do you think humans are displaying self suicidal behavior since thousands of years because they have free will ?? Free will and free thought both are earned,not inherent in humans. And by humans, i mean normal humans who are completely behest on their automatic thought patterns .
I think you're forgetting that people who have free will are still susceptible to brainwashing. If I tell someone to kill themselves, and go on a self-deprecating streak of addiction and degeneracy, are they going to do as I command? No they aren't, so they have to be controlled through subconscious means. I.e
brainwashing
I think this is not quite your point, but I'll still say it anyway.
Well, there is Void Meditation, and other meditations to defend oneself in some ways, but then there are more things - and some of these things, done more - which are needed so that we can then become less and less susceptible to brainwashing. The Mind has many 'levels' and 'degrees' and 'amounts', etc., of consciousness. Depending which 'level', 'degree', 'amount' we are in at present, will depend on what, and how much, stuff influences us. Like I said
here,
When I was a christian, in all moods and levels of consciousness, I used to praise the jew-on-a-stick a lot, all the time, in more or less everything I did - eating, before sleeping, waking up, watching TV or film, being guilty while/after masturbating, seeing something nice or cool, playing games, listening to music, etc., etc., etc. All of these are different moods and levels of consciousness. In some games, I could become so engrossed in them that I could lose myself in them, but I'd still be praising the kike-on-a-cross. A time after I left that evil, and after I had dedicated here, I noticed it still trying to happen a bit. It didn't happen a lot of the time, but if I was gaming, for example, being lost and engrossed in it, the thought came out of nowhere. Cleaning out the crap and bad energies and things must go in all moods and levels of consciousness. Like the never-ending machines seen in a dimention on the Astral realm.
I also realised one quite recently, as well. I thought I got rid of them all, but a small thing I say sometimes about when I like something or enjoy something, I said randomly, out of the blue. It's something I hadn't said in ages, but then I said it recently, my immediate, knee-jerk response to saying that was to praise jewsus straight after. I nearly did, but I managed to catch it in time. Like I said - I thought I got rid of all of them, but then there is that one. I still don't think I have quite got rid of that yet, but most of the jewsus-praisings-in-everything-I-was-ever-doing are gone.
My point is that while we might Void-out things (and this can also be done without Void meditation, but that makes it harder), there are still deeper levels of conscience, more subtle-ness - and some of these are parallels, I think I have also noticed. i.e. While we might think, "Now, this Void has managed to clean-up this level of my thoughts", we might not realise that, as I have noticed, there, on this same level, is/might be something 'over there'; hence why I use the term "degrees", as well - on different 'levels', I have found, there are still different 'degrees' within these 'levels'. (Maybe it is our perspective - panoramic, 360-degrees of perspective on/in each 'level'.) On the top-most 'level' of our current progress and abilities, one might agree, it is smaller - like a pyramid point. The reason it is 'smaller' is because we have just reached there and we haven't done much there yet; and any enemy influences and crap energies haven't done much to hinder us yet. So while we reach that height, the usual low or lower-level/low or lower-vibration crap of existence, doesn't go up to the point (nearly literal point); the lower vibrations of existence, on the lower 'levels'/dimensions, only mess-up the lower-ness, the base, the grounding foundations. Once we reach higher vibrations/'levels'/dimensions, the base should be, before that time, more clean and protected, so the lower-ness, in terms of vibrational existence and also in terms of brainwashing in our Minds, would be protected. A lot of people don't think in deeper and higher terms/thoughts/consciousness, so they also are able to be influenced easier; they stay blinkered in their current height or depth, their current 'leve' of thinking and consciousness, so anything outside of this can influence them.
It is still possible to be influenced/brainwashed if one has free will and choice, but each time we have a defence post an enemy comes; then we have a couple of guards at the post, more enemies come; then we have a few more guards, then more enemies come; ... then we have a castle, and a large batallion comes; then we have higher walls; then the enemy brings ladders; then we build traps, then the enemy builds counter-traps; then we upgrade to a citadel, then the enemy employs counter-citadel measures... Each amount, level, ability, degree, thing can be overcome if we allow it to be. As said - Satan could be not-the-most-powerful; there could exist a being, or beings, much more powerful than He; and also as said - there is no such thing as "absolute power". Some of those 'without' might be able to think for themselves, but that all depends on their Soul, their upbringing and influences/environment, past-life things, Astrology, etc.
Ors666 said:
StraitShot47 said:
Whites if possible should have as many kids as they can support or tolerate.
If, for some reason, a white on our side doesn't want kids for any reason then they have to be completely committed to the cause. It should then be that satanic white's duty to fight with the same ferocity to save our planet that our enemy instills. If not exceed the pressure of the enemy.
Our enemies are numerous and wake up every day with new innovations on how to destroy whites. If it is not possible for a white to have kids, then it is that white's duty to match that ferocity spiritually and physically.
The enemy is here temporarily, Satan has the true power over our planet and the enemy knows that. Being a God also means relying on yourself, hence why we are here working ourselves.
Yes, but National Socialism is like the example of Animals I gave in packs, prides, groups above. We are to help the community, the civilisation, the Race and Humanity as a whole, then the galaxy and the entire Universe - in (why not!) different 'levels', 'degrees' and 'amounts', again. SS and NS go hand-in-hand or hand-in-glove.
Zeffie of the Wind said:
ShadowTheRaven said:
I think you're forgetting that people who have free will are still susceptible to brainwashing. If I tell someone to kill themselves, and go on a self-deprecating streak of addiction and degeneracy, are they going to do as I command? No they aren't, so they have to be controlled through subconscious means. I.e brainwashing
People with free will are not susceptible to brain washing. To have free will is to be outside the control of others.
I think we need to specify
how much free will. In general terms, replies can be generalised, but if 100% free will - then I still don't think that exists. Like I said - the only true free will a person has is if they are the highest authourity; there is always hierarchy, rules, laws, conditions, etc. We can't all be on top, can we? Perhaps, things would rotate to give us all the opportunity to be on top, but then, with new Babies being born all the time, it would become more and more increasingly longer before each person has their chance; and with the politics, policies, etc., of things, it just would become way too much. way too messy, and things just wouldn't work; so only if we work to
become top can we
be (on) top. If I have good or evil autonomy, will others accept that?! No - even if I have genuinely-good automony, others (surely) would be at the very least very cautious of me and my actions, beliefs, intentions, etc. It really is contextual - if we have free will, then we could go against Satan, but then He would make sure that we would be punished; hence, no free will - or no absolute, 100% (or 666%!) free will. It depends. Just like there is no such thing as "absolute power", I don't think (so far) that there are any absolutes in life. The jew has jewed our thinking, that a jew false-god is absolute. I don't think everything is absolute automatically - we
make things absolute. We were born once upon a Physical time and Spiritual time. We can only make us absolute by becoming immortal - but then, if it bleeds, it can be destroyed (or
if it bleeds, we can kill it).
Take the Human Body, for example - all bits and pieces are required for each to function, and further, the Soul and Mind need to be healthy and strong, as well. If one part of us 'decided' to overpower the rest, say the heart and lungs decided to take-in and pump too much oxygen, causing hyperoxia, then things would not be good. Yes - there needs to be balance, and so there needs to be balance in society, civilisation, etc., as well - "free will" is an absolute term. Dare I say "equal opportunity" instead?! Again - that term is also an absolute. A Baby cannot take Satan's place. We're like those 2-D plastic picture puzzle games, where you have squares and a picture and you have to shuffle the tiles one-by-one to make it work properly so we can see the picture. We all 'have to', or perhaps we
have to, work together, with each other. 100% free will doesn't exist; if one steps out of line, then... If one decides to go help the jew, because muh free will, then... If one White SS decides to not have White Babies to help save the White Race while it is facing extinction, then... "What? You said I have free will. I still love you and things, but I just wanted to help the jew for this reason and that excuse. I still support your Cause, though." Yep!
Jack is right in this sense in that people aren't born with free will. One is still under the influence of karma via planetary placements, karma inherited from ones parents, and racial karma. To obtain free will one must cleanse themselves of dross and raise ones consciousness through spiritual discipline and acquisition of knowledge. The normal person is part of the borg or rather part of the jewish spell. On top of that one is under the influence of nature's laws. Through ignorance one remains chained. Through knowledge one learns how to achieve freedom. Through spiritual discipline one takes the steps towards freedom. With the Gods one truly obtains freedom. True freedom is not inherent, it is earned.
Automonic freedom to do as one wishes - either (whatever we choose to define as) "good" or "bad"? Of course not. Some would take, and I expect have taken, this too literally. I do think, quite strongly - I feel - that it is important to try not to use absolutes in things. "We have freedom! Satan stands for freedom! I will go and do X and yay!" Yeah. That's going to happen...
ShadowTheRaven said:
Zeffie of the Wind said:
People with free will are not susceptible to brain washing. To have free will is to be outside the control of others. Jack is right in this sense in that people aren't born with free will. One is still under the influence of karma via planetary placements, karma inherited from ones parents, and racial karma. To obtain free will one must cleanse themselves of dross and raise ones consciousness through spiritual discipline and acquisition of knowledge. The normal person is part of the borg or rather part of the jewish spell. On top of that one is under the influence of nature's laws. Through ignorance one remains chained. Through knowledge one learns how to achieve freedom. Through spiritual discipline one takes the steps towards freedom. With the Gods one truly obtains freedom. True freedom is not inherent, it is earned.
Then how come robots aren't considered to have free will? They're not under the influence of planetary placements because quite frankly they don't even have consciousness. To not have free will is to be a mindless automaton, and therefore become very predictable. Predictable as in "You know what I'll be doing 3 hours, 52 minutes, and 48 seconds after this reply gets approved"
One might say that there is pseudoautonomy - or pseudo-free-will. It all depends. I don't think there is anything -
anything - which is absolute. The closest we can have and do is to increase 'absolutality'. Even in the Gods and Goddesses' cases. They have civilisations, structure, power, influence, authourity, opinions, agreed-upon behaviours/actions, etc., etc., etc. These did not exist there prior to Them forming them. (Some)Rules and laws, are not found in Nature. Absolute-ality is (dare I say, more in the hopes of stirring some thought and a reaction)
a social construct!. If not social, then authouritative - good or evil authouritative, but I meant Those with Power and Authourity, as opposed to Draconian dictatorship. We have to keep
doing to
make. In this sense 'absolute-ality' sort-of exists, not as an absolute, but a continual work in progress, endlessly, forever, eternally. Perhaps this is also what Hitler meant by "the eternal struggle". One might say that me saying that "I am going to do it forever" is an absolute. Yes. That is context. However - even if so, there is still the minutest possibility of an iota of a chance that something, or some things, could happen to undermine that eventaually.
Even if this pseudoabsoluteality is not 100% precisely, but something more like 99.9999 recurring percent, there is still that smallest bit of possibility things could be undone. I think, as I said, we only have pseudo-absolute-ality. We just have to keep going and going and never stopping - but in a different way (I hope I am not being too nonsense here), with one God's/Goddess's 99.9999recurring%, and another God's/Goddess's 99.9999recurring%, these overlap, and Their respective ever-increasing, ever-continual work and advancement just builds it all up stronger. Like bricks in a building, overlapping and becoming taller and stronger. Eventually, as is experienced, things stop seeming to work - the too-great a height of the building would be a problem with winds, planes, spaceships, comets/meteors - we then learn to have stronger things on top of it, better materials and structures, other meditations/higher numbers of vibrations, etc.
Aquarius said:
ShadowTheRaven said:
And he's off, ladies and gentlemen, congratulations Jack, you've just admitted you're part of the borg. How? You say free will doesn't exist, which makes you part of a borg. A hivemind. In other words, you've just discredited nearly every teaching on this forum which is reliant on free will.
Shadow tell me where your free will is when you are always kept back from your own negative thoughts about yourself? We do have free will in a sense, but we don't in another sense, true free will comes from spiritual elevation, when you will rise the kundalini and obtain a super consciousness, you think someone with a risen kundalini has negative thoughts about themselves and can''t do correct life decisions?
Again - I ask "Whence cometh rights"? How far does
I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own Nature go before it turns into
but he who opposes me will regret it sorely? If I am of Satan and help, support and include myself in His Cause and His Side, then how much, if at all, can I go to my own Planet, build-up my own civilisation to build spaceships, go to another galaxy and conquer the reptillians' galaxy and claim it as my own, then in good or evil ways do my own things in my own galaxy - and decide and define what is "good" and what is "evil" either in my own area or in everywhere?
As long as I don't do things against Satan/His Side/His People (who, therefore are my people), I can do
whatever the fuck I want, good or evil, in my own realm and domain? (Are we "allowed" our own domain? I recall (although inaccurately, as per the sheer numbers) the amounts of legions of Spiritual entities the Gods and Goddesses have under them. If they've been around, say Azazel, for 60 thousand (Earth) years+, how come they don't have many,
many more than that?)
Is the dedication a contract?! Are we under obligations?! Because of the importance of how things are, I would say that yes, we are for now - but since the Universe is a very big place and a very eternal existence, we would be under this contract and these obligations forever. We don't just join the Army to lol about. We join so that we can go and do the jew's dirty laundry and kill other Goyim for teh l0lz of the jew, whether we know and realise that or not. That's an obligation. When an enemy bird comes and attacks our nest, eggs and birdlings, we shouldn't just sit back and enjoy it for teh l0lz bcs reaz0ns. If Satan has won already, then we can all stop fighting. Oh, no. I didn't just say that! :roll: