About Your First Saturn Return [Updated - How To Manage This And The Good News]

[Dhruv11]

Mine sucked the rooster however I think I blazed a trail for the next batch to go through a corridor if you will

 

[Artoria Pendragon]

Hi Edward,

Please when you find the time can you comment more on the Tibetan book of the dead. How do the beings that come in the bardo state relate to the Satanic gods do you think?

Do any of the early / authentic Buddhist practices relate to the Satanic ones. I remember they have some thorough practices for dream yoga.

Hail Satan!

I would like to comment on something that many people fail to grasp in the whole story of all sorts of Saturn transits and "hard times", as it is subtle and one must be able to spot.

Reading the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which I highly recommend to everyone to read after years and decades of daily power meditations and yoga practice, I realize how much the Watcher shapes this world, and how much the whole world is an illusion, but not in the sense that it doesn't exist, but that it is born by illusion. That is, born of the quantum state, born of our mind, of the very process of Observation. And it would be all right if it were born only by our pure Satanic mind, but we live not detached from our species, race, planet, etc., which is what gives birth to samsara.

I don't want to talk here about my own experience with various transits of Saturn through natal planets, nor do I recommend it to anyone, as an experienced astrologer can reconstruct a chart and get the person based on such info. I will only cite some subtle point from my experience of transiting Saturn to an important chart point. Again, it is quite useless to give details here, since everyone has them different anyway, the point is that this transit filled with power a mass of illusions and inadequate expectations of oneself, what one's earthly self should or should not be (from the perspective of the last idiot), generated above all by an extreme lack of understanding of oneself and ignorance of one's own nature.

In Saturn moments, the problems that come out are not those that we are obligated to experience, but often those that we are not in any way karmically obligated to experience, but are generated by our own imagination, such as unjust and inadequate expectations or demands on ourselves. Very often one expects to be astonishingly successful in a profession which is not suited to them or in a relationship which is obviously not suited to them. And the transit of such a planet can give this expectation a power that can only increase the illusion and imagined grief of the mismatch between the illusion and the reality. Saturn tends to push one against reality - everyone on the English forum has already said that. But what is left out a bit, in my opinion, is that if one refuses to let go of one's false attachments, this transit can fill these attachments with power, which then flows back into the path that one has chosen for oneself.

The worst thing is if our illusions, for example, inadequate career expectations and blaming ourselves for not making a career, or similar inadequate expectations in other areas, resonate with the illusions of the crowd and the people with whom we are karmically bound. For example, when parents push a child (and he pushes himself, because "it's cool") in a direction that is not appropriate for him, and when the illusion is shattered by the reality that " it might be cool" but it is still not appropriate for him, the false dreams of all involved crumble with the corresponding consequences. But it rests on nothing but the cretinism of all those involved, who, without understanding the subject, have gone there and imagined things about it that are not in it.

This is a very good example, for it is characteristic of the average idiot to judge things before he knows anything about them, filling himself with more and more cognitive distortions, and whole false worlds created in his head. And this false world is projected into the REAL world, and this is what is scary. Man begins to act as if he were living in his world of illusions and dreams, and once in the real world, he instinctively tries to adjust it to them, creating them, although he DOES NOT have to create them and go through all their known consequences - "known," since the quality of these expectations is loosy to say the least. Your expectations are what you eat, watch, read, and perceive in all sorts of ways. Look at what children are "fed" every day.

In this example, the child did not have to go through all the heartache of not conforming to some, to put it mildly, underdeveloped, mediocre and infantile "image" that he made up for himself based on who knows what. He came up with all his own "cools" and "greats" etc. He comes from a completely different unknowable world of his own Soul through many reincarnations, and this true world has nothing in common with the limited ego, made of dung, which he created for himself during his little time in this jewtrix. Even 100 years is not long enough for a capsule slave to get anything worthwhile out of his mind. It's a great opportunity to reflect on how we create expectations, egos (i.e., our image of who we are and what we really want) and all ideas about the world in general.

With the decline of enlightenment, people's "egos" and expectations are becoming more and more primitive, flat, vulgar, just look at what young generations are trying to look like. People are paying with their lives and health for what is literally built on complete crap. The latter is precisely the worst part, when our cretinous illusions can resonate with the same and worse in other, even bigger cretins whose cretinism is already a danger to society. And that's when the Observer effects the observed, when the Observer changes reality. This happens when many energies from many different directions are grasped and become enough powerful to be realized in an event.

But this event was NOT meant to happen. Saturn itself has nothing to do with a particular cesspool in a particular head, but it can give it power. So many precisely undesirable things happen because of the condensation of the wrong way of thought of many people. For example, the pisslamic crowd. Its power can theoretically disintegrate someone, even if they do not share pisslam themselves. But a person of faith has a much better chance of getting caught up in it, because he communicates in pisslamic communities, he opens up and trusts them, since he does not initially think of himself as something deeply separate from them, and does not intentionally try to fence himself off from them in any way. This is only one reason in a million that lies on the very surface of his mind.

To return to my example, after a couple of years of Saturn hitting an important point, I could not understand how I could even care about things of zero or negative importance that under any other circumstance I would not even notice. We have to concentrate on the important and meaningful things and constantly bring our consciousness back to them, which is what the Void Meditation teaches us. It was pure cognitive distortion: I put together things that were in no way connected in reality, instead they were connected in a false world that I thought was real, but which was not. And all that I experienced was generated only by the laws of this very false world, and had absolutely nothing to do with my development or with my situation at the time. And it could only have been made worse by other inhabitants of a similar false reality (because there are whole groups of people who populate similar false realities, which do not make the last any less false, but can ruin lives quite badly by the attempts of these sleepwalkers to implement their laws).

The saddest outcome and the real hellfire as it was symbolically called in Ancient texts is when these somnambulists are so oblivious to the fact that they live in a dream that they fanatically put into practice all the madness that the enemy creates in their imaginary worlds. The enemy long ago learned to take advantage of this property of the human psyche, and these people literally sleepwalk, destroying everything in their path.

This is where all the concepts of maya, samsara (dream world), Bardo, etc. come from, the point of which is to remind man that everything he creates and experiences in his mind is only his own creations and illusions, mistakes, cognitive distortions, and that all our spiritual practice is aimed at purifying the mind so that it can perceive reality in its true forms. Because going astray creates the most terrible of illusions - that the latter is reality itself, as a result of which one is trapped within its boundaries. So this Saturn transit has the power to saturate these so-called boundaries, for Saturn loves boundaries, and it is important to detach from them during this period.

Lastly, I can't not mention how it has been perverted by the jews. Our imagination is not evil, as the witch hunt portrays it. Nor is everything that goes on in it. On the contrary, it is the most important source of knowledge of the world, the discovery of its higher laws, it drives geniuses and builds civilizations. It is the Satanic part in us, and like everything the jews lack and envy, they try to pervert it and make it serve their end. Just as the mind of a savage gives birth to cannibalism, the mind purified and freed from the shackles of false notions gives birth to cosmic empires. Imagination is Satan's greatest gift, and its deliberate abuse is the greatest crime.

 

[Edward Lonsa]

Hi Edward,

Please when you find the time can you comment more on the Tibetan book of the dead. How do the beings that come in the bardo state relate to the Satanic gods do you think?

Do any of the early / authentic Buddhist practices relate to the Satanic ones. I remember they have some thorough practices for dream yoga.

Hail Satan!

As it is said in The Book of the Dead itself, these entities has not only nothing to do with personal Gods (except they may be called after them) but there is actually a statement in mostly every page there, that these entities are the representatives of the own mind of the meditator. They are within his own lokaloka (legendary mountains "restricting one's world") meaning the limitations of his own mind. This is quantum truth: we see and live in a world created by our won Observation, i.e. that one we can see and receive. When we meditate our capability of receiving or observing grows and we can enter different worlds and different parts of this world.

Also Book of the Dead shows the process of purification and different states of the mind: you may observe beneficial things but if you do not follow the truth and do not understand it fully, and if your energies fall into more ignorant states you may observe and feel worse and frightening things because these are energies of lower spheres of the mind, i.e. the world (since the mind is the world, the last is the emanation of the first - see above). It is not off-topic to this thread and very much related to what we were speaking here about Saturn, because Saturn is exactly what changes from frightening to beneficial with purification of the mind and Saturn is what is really very related to what was written there about these entities. For example, they have some "fury" entities there.

In this regard it is very notable to remember that Saturn is a part of our soul, our Base Chakra, bone system etc, it is our soul and body, our natal chart and fate. Purification of the soul is purification of Saturn, or Saturnine soil as they called it in books into purified gold or "silver powder" to further cleanse all other parts by it.

Dream yoga is real. Since dreams are also in the mind as well as any other part of the so called observed universe (that's why it is called observed) you can manage it as you do with your body in actual yoga, thus relaxing, "stretching" and training your mind not different to how you relax, stretch and train your body in physical yoga. Thus you "stretch" your observed world and can go to any place and time you want. Most people are too tired and they just rest and let their mind relax and stray. But this relaxation may also be used for advancement.

This last paragraph was my own opinion, advanced SS may pour more light on the dream theory.

 

[Artoria Pendragon]

Thank you, this is very interesting

Buddha never speaks of the satanic gods does he?

So the dietes in Buddhism - are they all aspects of the mind?

On the whole, would you suggest any other Buddhist books to read? Or Buddhist practice to practice?

Thanks Edward
Hail Satan!

quote="Edward Lonsa" post_id=387512 time=1662828310 user_id=504]

Hi Edward,

Please when you find the time can you comment more on the Tibetan book of the dead. How do the beings that come in the bardo state relate to the Satanic gods do you think?

Do any of the early / authentic Buddhist practices relate to the Satanic ones. I remember they have some thorough practices for dream yoga.

Hail Satan!

As it is said in The Book of the Dead itself, these entities has not only nothing to do with personal Gods (except they may be called after them) but there is actually a statement in mostly every page there, that these entities are the representatives of the own mind of the meditator. They are within his own lokaloka (legendary mountains "restricting one's world") meaning the limitations of his own mind. This is quantum truth: we see and live in a world created by our won Observation, i.e. that one we can see and receive. When we meditate our capability of receiving or observing grows and we can enter different worlds and different parts of this world.

Also Book of the Dead shows the process of purification and different states of the mind: you may observe beneficial things but if you do not follow the truth and do not understand it fully, and if your energies fall into more ignorant states you may observe and feel worse and frightening things because these are energies of lower spheres of the mind, i.e. the world (since the mind is the world, the last is the emanation of the first - see above). It is not off-topic to this thread and very much related to what we were speaking here about Saturn, because Saturn is exactly what changes from frightening to beneficial with purification of the mind and Saturn is what is really very related to what was written there about these entities. For example, they have some "fury" entities there.

In this regard it is very notable to remember that Saturn is a part of our soul, our Base Chakra, bone system etc, it is our soul and body, our natal chart and fate. Purification of the soul is purification of Saturn, or Saturnine soil as they called it in books into purified gold or "silver powder" to further cleanse all other parts by it.

Dream yoga is real. Since dreams are also in the mind as well as any other part of the so called observed universe (that's why it is called observed) you can manage it as you do with your body in actual yoga, thus relaxing, "stretching" and training your mind not different to how you relax, stretch and train your body in physical yoga. Thus you "stretch" your observed world and can go to any place and time you want. Most people are too tired and they just rest and let their mind relax and stray. But this relaxation may also be used for advancement.

This last paragraph was my own opinion, advanced SS may pour more light on the dream theory.
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[Artoria Pendragon]

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Hail Satan!


quote="Edward Lonsa" post_id=387512 time=1662828310 user_id=504]

Hi Edward,

Please when you find the time can you comment more on the Tibetan book of the dead. How do the beings that come in the bardo state relate to the Satanic gods do you think?

Do any of the early / authentic Buddhist practices relate to the Satanic ones. I remember they have some thorough practices for dream yoga.

Hail Satan!

As it is said in The Book of the Dead itself, these entities has not only nothing to do with personal Gods (except they may be called after them) but there is actually a statement in mostly every page there, that these entities are the representatives of the own mind of the meditator. They are within his own lokaloka (legendary mountains "restricting one's world") meaning the limitations of his own mind. This is quantum truth: we see and live in a world created by our won Observation, i.e. that one we can see and receive. When we meditate our capability of receiving or observing grows and we can enter different worlds and different parts of this world.

Also Book of the Dead shows the process of purification and different states of the mind: you may observe beneficial things but if you do not follow the truth and do not understand it fully, and if your energies fall into more ignorant states you may observe and feel worse and frightening things because these are energies of lower spheres of the mind, i.e. the world (since the mind is the world, the last is the emanation of the first - see above). It is not off-topic to this thread and very much related to what we were speaking here about Saturn, because Saturn is exactly what changes from frightening to beneficial with purification of the mind and Saturn is what is really very related to what was written there about these entities. For example, they have some "fury" entities there.

In this regard it is very notable to remember that Saturn is a part of our soul, our Base Chakra, bone system etc, it is our soul and body, our natal chart and fate. Purification of the soul is purification of Saturn, or Saturnine soil as they called it in books into purified gold or "silver powder" to further cleanse all other parts by it.

Dream yoga is real. Since dreams are also in the mind as well as any other part of the so called observed universe (that's why it is called observed) you can manage it as you do with your body in actual yoga, thus relaxing, "stretching" and training your mind not different to how you relax, stretch and train your body in physical yoga. Thus you "stretch" your observed world and can go to any place and time you want. Most people are too tired and they just rest and let their mind relax and stray. But this relaxation may also be used for advancement.

This last paragraph was my own opinion, advanced SS may pour more light on the dream theory.
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[Dragonheart666]

Additional information and FAQ



Yes, you can of course do any of the following to help out the Saturn Transit manifest better: Sun Square, Jupiter Square, Cleaning or any meditation that deals with mitigating energies. This is mostly work that affects the energy. The real solution to experience this in the best way, is to actually have rectified as much as possible before this, to have cleaned the soul. And even then, workings to help around with this transit are necessary. Then, we also have the patience and necessary life assessments one might have to make for this energy to be expressed correctly.



Yes, thank you for this, I should have been more specific. In certain occasions, Saturn can come to bring things to a closure, ie, closure of the previous aspect of life, and waking up or coming into terms with a new life with new possibilities. A change of lifepath and added responsibilities for this lifepath might as well emerge, and it might not be "negative", yet, it can all be based on a deep inner and outer change.



It will help tremendously, but it will not negate the, let's say, "disciplinary" aspect of Saturn. You will experience way less negativity especially compared to what certain people might. The AOP is helpful against ALL negative forces, including what could be considered negative from this transit.



Yes, most definitely the Saturn Return can cause this, PROVIDED, one has toiled and built a foundation before. If this is not present, Saturn can come here and push someone to make this happen or to come face to face with the issue. The more one is accepting, the better, and it can also have a propelling effect for those who have sat themselves down and worked hard for an outcome in life.

Your mentality is very correct and Saturn respects a correct mentality.



We have had a long conversation with HPS Maxine on this. Certain people, when they do the Saturn Square, they have very good effects in their life, improved structure, and they can use this beneficially. Others however, might experience a temporary increase of negativity.

If the Square of Saturn is to be used, it's to be used with a very positive and proper affirmation, and everyone has to try it and see how it goes. We have had mixed input from users of the Saturn Square, simply because of how most people "deal" with Saturn based on their nature. In no case we had "very bad" things however, and in more cases, we had very good outcomes, mostly however of a steady and slow manifestation such as grounding or a more concrete outlook of life.



Absolutely. This is a very correct approach with this.



2-3 degrees is the orb where this will be felt the tightest, but the large orb is 7 degrees. When above 3 degrees, the effects will be subtler.



Saturn as retrograde can have a sense of inner structure or a private inner structure, that might come in clashes with the external environment during this transit. But to know exactly how this might play out, you have to watch for the patterns of your life [ie, were you about to get married or get a job abroad, for example?] and to also look at the native house of your Natal Chart and where Saturn is seated.





Yes, Saturn can really have effects like this. As thus, the post for people who are about to undergo this. If it's behind you, that's very good news.



All of your reply is really in depth and very much on the point. Yes, Saturn can come as a little "Grim Reaper" that forces assessments in life. If one for example had audacious dreams about their next years [that they never followed through with] or they never had anything, Saturn can come and put all of this to the challenge, forcing people to finally make a proper adjustment so they can progress in life in a more "realistic" fashion.


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Since many of you are a younger generation of SS, those of you around 27-30, might experience within the next years your first Saturn Return. Effects might be already a little felt for some.

You must know, that this is a violent transitory aspect, which, no matter what you have succeeded at, it will come to test it all. It's not a very positive time for a person. Certain other aspects and transits can help you, but this one is still a very tough one.

One must keep in mind, that no matter what they see, they have around as much time as their first Return. This transit can make you feel as you have been useless, done nothing, or all things in your life have been mistakes, bringing with it a lot of other negative events. The house in which Saturn is seated in your Natal Chart, can be indicative on what this is going to hit mostly.

Many people due to lack of life experience, or not understanding how life works, are very quick to judge themselves harshly and negatively. You'll go through hard times in life, that is life.

There are also many people who just run from what is perceived as "negative" or "trying". This aspect will hit hardest on these people, and from there on, it depends on how these people will go about managing this.

One more category of people is those who keep trying to do the best and planning out for the future. Generally, this transit comes to make you look back and front in the same time: What you have done, what you could have done better, and what you can do better off in the future in your life.

This, again, depends strongly on the houses in which the transit is taking place into, but this can also be an overall theme in your life during this transit. The more spiritual work one has done, and the wiser one is, these outflows of Saturn can be mitigated to some extent.

Emotional pain, garbage, misfortune, or all sorts of other negativity might be consistent with this transit, and look like it is taking too much on you, same as external events. It's very rare that one experiences this transit without a lot of opposition, so feeling like you are being opposed by the world or very negative, is also likely to happen.

For these transits, one must definitely keep meditating. Accepting Saturn's lessons [not destruction, the LESSONS], can be crucial. For example, Saturn might make you depressed over certain things that you can fix, and you must look behind the causes of said negativity or opposition to try to address it, where this is possible. This transit needs to be made a lesson out of.

In regards to how to manage this, one should keep their soul clean [cleaning etc], control the mind [void meditation is crucial at all points in life] and doing what is necessitated of them from their meditation program, which is in accordance to advancement. It's also always good to not allow your energies to drop [ie, to keep constant on meditation] as Saturn can have an effect of being more difficult to control when things are out of order or when you are a bit down.

Lastly, no matter what, one must know: IT WILL PASS! If you are of the category that experienced this in an easy way, that is a very good indicator you have been managing life properly, but still, this aspect will enforce re-assessments.

One must also bear closely at heart, that the Gods are going to be with you and support you, and that you are not alone in this situation. Additionally, a transit that negative won't occur for at least 7 or 14 years, and the second return will take approximately anywhere from 27 to 30 years. In other words, you have little to worry about after this first transit where Saturn is concerned, and the good times are going to be ahead after this very negative transit leaves you.

-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666

I never knew about this before. And I wish to know more about it. Thank you for sharing this information HP HC