A Question On Our Gods' History

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

First of all, I want to apologize if this question has been answered already a number of times. I tried to look for the answers with the Forum Search method but there's just too many mentions of the same words in other unrelated topics, so here we are.

I've been reading the JoS several times, and there are still pages I don't completely understand. As soon as I stumbled upon the JoyOfSatan website in 2002 (I got there looking for real information on Telekinesis, my all time favorite ability one could say), and after the initial surge of happiness KNOWING I was finally Home, I began reading about the Demons. Somehow, I didn't read much about Satan, as I already felt Him as a Father and didn't need much more to know I could trust Him completely.
So I read about Demons and got mind blown at how amazing and different they were, and how much we could learn from them, and even befriend them.
But something I really never understood, so I'm asking you today because it's one of the few doubts I have.

This is not in any way a doubt that would possibly lead me away from Spiritual Satanism, actually it's exactly the opposite, as (long story short) 1) the RTRs have caused me to feel more of my upper chakras 2) I used this slight advantage in order to find out who my Guardian is in a way I haven't done before (so no beginner's pendulum, no "guessing", no "look for the same dominant Element" for once, just plain feeling) 3) and I started having very very brief visions of shapes and colors I can't yet understand, a "tingling" when I asked if Raum (pendulum called Him Chnum back in 2003) was my Guardian and this morning I had a dream about Phenex/Phoenix (I've had a bunch of visions of actualy phoenix birds in 2013 after I had my first encounter with Haures, and somehow always thought these 'phoenix' birds were Hers).

This intro (sorry for the lenghty intro) just to say that I started questioning myself and how much I actually know about Demons, wishing to be able to understand more and trust them more than I already do (I feel that I only trust them in a "theoretical" way, not being able to summon yet, just reading about them and loving them, and I want to learn how to trust them in a "practical" way, speaking with them, working with them, being directed to success faster than just shooting in the dark with my meditations and trying to understand without a Guide).

So here's the question, sorry if it's stupid:
I keep reading of how JoS members (in the first years of JoS website existence) have "freed" Demons, so much that our Gods looked weaker to some and physically different but "bolted wings after being freed", as HP Maxine mentions.
So why did our beloved Gods (being Gods, much more powerful than we are) needed being freed? And why by us weaker beings? What has happened to them that has made them weaker and in need of help?

I guess I don't know much about our history, just the guidelines I can read in the JoS, I always postponed understanding these questions until I could have summoned my Guardian properly and asked Him/Her, but now, in the face of all that's been happening, I feel it's more important to know just how much we can, or "I" can, help our Gods, what I can do to ensure they never get weakened again, how I can ensure we are ONLY rising from this point forward, not falling back one single step.

What exactly happened in our past?

I can feel how the Demons are trying to toss me a line in order for me to grab on and work with them, but it's a long shot for now, I'm still not strong enough, open enough, and I REALLY want to boost myself (in relative safety, but I don't mind dangerous energies, like Elements or more if possible) in order to at least get close to one of the Gods and work my way up, doing something useful for them and us while on Earth.

I'm already doing RTRs of course, that goes without saying, but it doesn't feel like much. I could be doing more. I just need the guidance so many have already had.

Thanks for reading these rants.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

 

[Sabazios]

First of all, I want to apologize if this question has been answered already a number of times. I tried to look for the answers with the Forum Search method but there's just too many mentions of the same words in other unrelated topics, so here we are.

I've been reading the JoS several times, and there are still pages I don't completely understand. As soon as I stumbled upon the JoyOfSatan website in 2002 (I got there looking for real information on Telekinesis, my all time favorite ability one could say), and after the initial surge of happiness KNOWING I was finally Home, I began reading about the Demons. Somehow, I didn't read much about Satan, as I already felt Him as a Father and didn't need much more to know I could trust Him completely.
So I read about Demons and got mind blown at how amazing and different they were, and how much we could learn from them, and even befriend them.
But something I really never understood, so I'm asking you today because it's one of the few doubts I have.

This is not in any way a doubt that would possibly lead me away from Spiritual Satanism, actually it's exactly the opposite, as (long story short) 1) the RTRs have caused me to feel more of my upper chakras 2) I used this slight advantage in order to find out who my Guardian is in a way I haven't done before (so no beginner's pendulum, no "guessing", no "look for the same dominant Element" for once, just plain feeling) 3) and I started having very very brief visions of shapes and colors I can't yet understand, a "tingling" when I asked if Raum (pendulum called Him Chnum back in 2003) was my Guardian and this morning I had a dream about Phenex/Phoenix (I've had a bunch of visions of actualy phoenix birds in 2013 after I had my first encounter with Haures, and somehow always thought these 'phoenix' birds were Hers).

This intro (sorry for the lenghty intro) just to say that I started questioning myself and how much I actually know about Demons, wishing to be able to understand more and trust them more than I already do (I feel that I only trust them in a "theoretical" way, not being able to summon yet, just reading about them and loving them, and I want to learn how to trust them in a "practical" way, speaking with them, working with them, being directed to success faster than just shooting in the dark with my meditations and trying to understand without a Guide).

So here's the question, sorry if it's stupid:
I keep reading of how JoS members (in the first years of JoS website existence) have "freed" Demons, so much that our Gods looked weaker to some and physically different but "bolted wings after being freed", as HP Maxine mentions.
So why did our beloved Gods (being Gods, much more powerful than we are) needed being freed? And why by us weaker beings? What has happened to them that has made them weaker and in need of help?

I guess I don't know much about our history, just the guidelines I can read in the JoS, I always postponed understanding these questions until I could have summoned my Guardian properly and asked Him/Her, but now, in the face of all that's been happening, I feel it's more important to know just how much we can, or "I" can, help our Gods, what I can do to ensure they never get weakened again, how I can ensure we are ONLY rising from this point forward, not falling back one single step.

What exactly happened in our past?

I can feel how the Demons are trying to toss me a line in order for me to grab on and work with them, but it's a long shot for now, I'm still not strong enough, open enough, and I REALLY want to boost myself (in relative safety, but I don't mind dangerous energies, like Elements or more if possible) in order to at least get close to one of the Gods and work my way up, doing something useful for them and us while on Earth.

I'm already doing RTRs of course, that goes without saying, but it doesn't feel like much. I could be doing more. I just need the guidance so many have already had.

Thanks for reading these rants.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

I suppose that the term used ''freed" the Gods, actually means that back then the possibility to communicate with the Gods was not existent, due to the long period of jewish subversion( of our cultures and replacing it with their filth, xianity and pisslam) in which the enemy(and it s sheeps) have cursed the Gods, blasphemed this world and put it into a "box", their matrix, in which we couldn t communicate with the Gods. This is more like a speculation of mine because I also had this question many times, and I believe I ve read something about it here on the forums back when I joined.

 

[13th_Wolf]

First of all, I want to apologize if this question has been answered already a number of times. I tried to look for the answers with the Forum Search method but there's just too many mentions of the same words in other unrelated topics, so here we are.

I've been reading the JoS several times, and there are still pages I don't completely understand. As soon as I stumbled upon the JoyOfSatan website in 2002 (I got there looking for real information on Telekinesis, my all time favorite ability one could say), and after the initial surge of happiness KNOWING I was finally Home, I began reading about the Demons. Somehow, I didn't read much about Satan, as I already felt Him as a Father and didn't need much more to know I could trust Him completely.
So I read about Demons and got mind blown at how amazing and different they were, and how much we could learn from them, and even befriend them.
But something I really never understood, so I'm asking you today because it's one of the few doubts I have.

This is not in any way a doubt that would possibly lead me away from Spiritual Satanism, actually it's exactly the opposite, as (long story short) 1) the RTRs have caused me to feel more of my upper chakras 2) I used this slight advantage in order to find out who my Guardian is in a way I haven't done before (so no beginner's pendulum, no "guessing", no "look for the same dominant Element" for once, just plain feeling) 3) and I started having very very brief visions of shapes and colors I can't yet understand, a "tingling" when I asked if Raum (pendulum called Him Chnum back in 2003) was my Guardian and this morning I had a dream about Phenex/Phoenix (I've had a bunch of visions of actualy phoenix birds in 2013 after I had my first encounter with Haures, and somehow always thought these 'phoenix' birds were Hers).

This intro (sorry for the lenghty intro) just to say that I started questioning myself and how much I actually know about Demons, wishing to be able to understand more and trust them more than I already do (I feel that I only trust them in a "theoretical" way, not being able to summon yet, just reading about them and loving them, and I want to learn how to trust them in a "practical" way, speaking with them, working with them, being directed to success faster than just shooting in the dark with my meditations and trying to understand without a Guide).

So here's the question, sorry if it's stupid:
I keep reading of how JoS members (in the first years of JoS website existence) have "freed" Demons, so much that our Gods looked weaker to some and physically different but "bolted wings after being freed", as HP Maxine mentions.
So why did our beloved Gods (being Gods, much more powerful than we are) needed being freed? And why by us weaker beings? What has happened to them that has made them weaker and in need of help?

I guess I don't know much about our history, just the guidelines I can read in the JoS, I always postponed understanding these questions until I could have summoned my Guardian properly and asked Him/Her, but now, in the face of all that's been happening, I feel it's more important to know just how much we can, or "I" can, help our Gods, what I can do to ensure they never get weakened again, how I can ensure we are ONLY rising from this point forward, not falling back one single step.

What exactly happened in our past?

I can feel how the Demons are trying to toss me a line in order for me to grab on and work with them, but it's a long shot for now, I'm still not strong enough, open enough, and I REALLY want to boost myself (in relative safety, but I don't mind dangerous energies, like Elements or more if possible) in order to at least get close to one of the Gods and work my way up, doing something useful for them and us while on Earth.

I'm already doing RTRs of course, that goes without saying, but it doesn't feel like much. I could be doing more. I just need the guidance so many have already had.

Thanks for reading these rants.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

I think the reason why some of the demons appeared like that to Maxine and others back then was cos of a few reasons. The first I'll say, is that she did state that in her early days in Satanism she and others thought that the Demons were as portrayed by the mass media back then the whole beastly red horn bs thing. I imagine even after seeing Satan whenever that was, it must of taken a while to realise when interacting with the minor demons like Bes and so forth who do actually look likewise to those types of imagery- that the Gods were Nordic looking. Those freeing rituals I'm guessing occurred in covens within that similar time frame and so when you have a combination of different people with these assumptions doing a unique breakthrough type of working, their own minds are going to crossover and impose a view of the demons there based on those deceptions as they were doing the working.

The second reason I think they appeared like that is more to do with the Gods concerning the curses of the jew. A number of the Demons are human or part human and some of them are even according to sources here living underground in Tibet and the last time they had strong contacts with our physical forces was during the National Socialist expeditions and dealings with them in the 1930's and 40's(I imagine when Hitler was taken in a Vimana that the Gods in general were doing a sort of evacuation of other ascended beings on Earth that were better off elsewhere from Earth) Aside of that, these curses were seriously strong and going back centuries, not too long ago in the divinatory reading of things for the premonition prone- there was little chance of us winning unless humanity showed they actually seriously cared about Satan and our Gods- which is what Maxine proved to them by doing what she did. This probably restored a lot of their heart and faith in us and what we are capable of separate from their interference and will of made them feel proud of us. Pride is of Light, and the Solar Plexus chakra the powerhouse of the Soul. After years of spirit abuse at the hands of idiots the Gods had a reason to feel proud of us again and fight off the temporary plague instead of just leaving us to our fates and moving on like one moves on from a dying relative for example. If you visit a friend and they just abuse you and steal your money to spend on drugs, are you just gonna keep falling for it and allowing yourself to fall into chaos with them? This is the Gods we are talking about, and much of humanity had forgotten the Demons weren't unlimited tanks of cotton candy these kinds of people can just go and suffocate on. In summation the dominance of the enemy back then and the enemy grid severely weakened the subtle image of the Gods at that time

The third reason is that the Gods might of wanted to have done that to show them that what they did was helpful and as an example to use for their own personal development. The wings of the soul for example, they invoke great emotion in people of freedom and liberty and are a diagram for all Satanists interested in what Satan is really about. It's likewise to people interested in mythology like spriggans, vampires and all sorts of things like that which are allegories that children and those of a receptive mind will be attracted to and probably interpret as real. That event as a whole with the freeing of the demons probably gave the creation of the JoS a hell of a lot of useful subtle energy on top of what the gods influenced then on from it. The guardian demons and the soul's wings are what people in the beginning here I noticed, who were a bit deluded on the yahoo groups, were really interested in and drawn in by. Of course those types who wanted to be babied around by the gods and have magical wings XD. But even then, with those people that was where the humble beginnings of this organisation I guess had come from. Now its gonna start getting more serious about the reality of the planet's situation.


For your question relating to "what exactly happened in our past?" to look into it yourself, a rule would be that this is just paganism's details that survived through the middle ages- that is OUR past in recent times. You can observe it from reading any history and filtering it from the xian philosophies and events. You can observe the pagan inflections of your history in your immediate family, even if you are American. American culture was built from the ground up on Satanic values nevermind what the likes of Roosevelt tried and failed to put into the well. If you are European it goes without saying, but for both cases if your surrounding community and/or family is particularly xian then that is another issue and problem. You can still go to things like local libraries and whatnot (not at the moment lol) but also literally just the internet. The internet that came around in the 90's is OUR history as humanity as if the guy who made it for his office originally decided to go and sell it to jews for a quick buck- it would be a different situation. Because he let it go open source, we have the situation today- the internet and social media is what has caused all the news nowadays to be as retarded and "podcast-y" as it is for example. That wouldn't of happened without it. Mainstream media is not long away from going bankrupt, and if we come around to the limelight too soon we'll probably give them enough fuel actually to fuck around for a few more years like the circus it is. Nevertheless, this whole world situation and the constantly shifting modern culture that has no trends, people earning money in online jobs and markets and other shit, this is caused by the WWW= The 666 in numerology/gematria. The same 666 that you used to post this can show you what exactly has happened in our past, on top of that it is a case of your own mind and compulsions. If I didn't have the internet personally, I'm not sure where I would be today as I care a lot about history and the education system in my country led me to end up in drugs so without the internet to teach me the true history I sought it would be a shitty situation for me and everyone likewise. People didn't become 100% literate to end up in further jewish lies, Nietzsche as one example would be astonished by the internet.

"God" is observable in a lot of men and women even now. They might not be the Gods, but they have their own history and they are your people. Unless it is given by the HP's or you commune with the Gods of their history themselves, you'll never know the God's history totally just yet and you would be pissing in the wind. With questions that are intensive and deep it is usually always a case for patience. Like a child who wonders why older people have certain things about their body like facial hair or breasts, they'll figure it out as they age patiently.

 

[Eihwaz]

For what I understood our side lost a battle, then the demons had part of their soul imprisioned and were abused by mainstream magicians until Maxine and other people freed them in ritual.

I don't really know why they had to be freed by humans, but I assumed it had something to do with their physical distance from the Earth.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

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[MercuryWisdom]

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[darkmonkey666]

First of all, I want to apologize if this question has been answered already a number of times. I tried to look for the answers with the Forum Search method but there's just too many mentions of the same words in other unrelated topics, so here we are.

I've been reading the JoS several times, and there are still pages I don't completely understand. As soon as I stumbled upon the JoyOfSatan website in 2002 (I got there looking for real information on Telekinesis, my all time favorite ability one could say), and after the initial surge of happiness KNOWING I was finally Home, I began reading about the Demons. Somehow, I didn't read much about Satan, as I already felt Him as a Father and didn't need much more to know I could trust Him completely.
So I read about Demons and got mind blown at how amazing and different they were, and how much we could learn from them, and even befriend them.
But something I really never understood, so I'm asking you today because it's one of the few doubts I have.

This is not in any way a doubt that would possibly lead me away from Spiritual Satanism, actually it's exactly the opposite, as (long story short) 1) the RTRs have caused me to feel more of my upper chakras 2) I used this slight advantage in order to find out who my Guardian is in a way I haven't done before (so no beginner's pendulum, no "guessing", no "look for the same dominant Element" for once, just plain feeling) 3) and I started having very very brief visions of shapes and colors I can't yet understand, a "tingling" when I asked if Raum (pendulum called Him Chnum back in 2003) was my Guardian and this morning I had a dream about Phenex/Phoenix (I've had a bunch of visions of actualy phoenix birds in 2013 after I had my first encounter with Haures, and somehow always thought these 'phoenix' birds were Hers).

This intro (sorry for the lenghty intro) just to say that I started questioning myself and how much I actually know about Demons, wishing to be able to understand more and trust them more than I already do (I feel that I only trust them in a "theoretical" way, not being able to summon yet, just reading about them and loving them, and I want to learn how to trust them in a "practical" way, speaking with them, working with them, being directed to success faster than just shooting in the dark with my meditations and trying to understand without a Guide).

So here's the question, sorry if it's stupid:
I keep reading of how JoS members (in the first years of JoS website existence) have "freed" Demons, so much that our Gods looked weaker to some and physically different but "bolted wings after being freed", as HP Maxine mentions.
So why did our beloved Gods (being Gods, much more powerful than we are) needed being freed? And why by us weaker beings? What has happened to them that has made them weaker and in need of help?

I guess I don't know much about our history, just the guidelines I can read in the JoS, I always postponed understanding these questions until I could have summoned my Guardian properly and asked Him/Her, but now, in the face of all that's been happening, I feel it's more important to know just how much we can, or "I" can, help our Gods, what I can do to ensure they never get weakened again, how I can ensure we are ONLY rising from this point forward, not falling back one single step.

What exactly happened in our past?

I can feel how the Demons are trying to toss me a line in order for me to grab on and work with them, but it's a long shot for now, I'm still not strong enough, open enough, and I REALLY want to boost myself (in relative safety, but I don't mind dangerous energies, like Elements or more if possible) in order to at least get close to one of the Gods and work my way up, doing something useful for them and us while on Earth.

I'm already doing RTRs of course, that goes without saying, but it doesn't feel like much. I could be doing more. I just need the guidance so many have already had.

Thanks for reading these rants.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

I think the reason why some of the demons appeared like that to Maxine and others back then was cos of a few reasons. The first I'll say, is that she did state that in her early days in Satanism she and others thought that the Demons were as portrayed by the mass media back then the whole beastly red horn bs thing. I imagine even after seeing Satan whenever that was, it must of taken a while to realise when interacting with the minor demons like Bes and so forth who do actually look likewise to those types of imagery- that the Gods were Nordic looking. Those freeing rituals I'm guessing occurred in covens within that similar time frame and so when you have a combination of different people with these assumptions doing a unique breakthrough type of working, their own minds are going to crossover and impose a view of the demons there based on those deceptions as they were doing the working.

The second reason I think they appeared like that is more to do with the Gods concerning the curses of the jew. A number of the Demons are human or part human and some of them are even according to sources here living underground in Tibet and the last time they had strong contacts with our physical forces was during the National Socialist expeditions and dealings with them in the 1930's and 40's(I imagine when Hitler was taken in a Vimana that the Gods in general were doing a sort of evacuation of other ascended beings on Earth that were better off elsewhere from Earth) Aside of that, these curses were seriously strong and going back centuries, not too long ago in the divinatory reading of things for the premonition prone- there was little chance of us winning unless humanity showed they actually seriously cared about Satan and our Gods- which is what Maxine proved to them by doing what she did. This probably restored a lot of their heart and faith in us and what we are capable of separate from their interference and will of made them feel proud of us. Pride is of Light, and the Solar Plexus chakra the powerhouse of the Soul. After years of spirit abuse at the hands of idiots the Gods had a reason to feel proud of us again and fight off the temporary plague instead of just leaving us to our fates and moving on like one moves on from a dying relative for example. If you visit a friend and they just abuse you and steal your money to spend on drugs, are you just gonna keep falling for it and allowing yourself to fall into chaos with them? This is the Gods we are talking about, and much of humanity had forgotten the Demons weren't unlimited tanks of cotton candy these kinds of people can just go and suffocate on. In summation the dominance of the enemy back then and the enemy grid severely weakened the subtle image of the Gods at that time

The third reason is that the Gods might of wanted to have done that to show them that what they did was helpful and as an example to use for their own personal development. The wings of the soul for example, they invoke great emotion in people of freedom and liberty and are a diagram for all Satanists interested in what Satan is really about. It's likewise to people interested in mythology like spriggans, vampires and all sorts of things like that which are allegories that children and those of a receptive mind will be attracted to and probably interpret as real. That event as a whole with the freeing of the demons probably gave the creation of the JoS a hell of a lot of useful subtle energy on top of what the gods influenced then on from it. The guardian demons and the soul's wings are what people in the beginning here I noticed, who were a bit deluded on the yahoo groups, were really interested in and drawn in by. Of course those types who wanted to be babied around by the gods and have magical wings XD. But even then, with those people that was where the humble beginnings of this organisation I guess had come from. Now its gonna start getting more serious about the reality of the planet's situation.


For your question relating to "what exactly happened in our past?" to look into it yourself, a rule would be that this is just paganism's details that survived through the middle ages- that is OUR past in recent times. You can observe it from reading any history and filtering it from the xian philosophies and events. You can observe the pagan inflections of your history in your immediate family, even if you are American. American culture was built from the ground up on Satanic values nevermind what the likes of Roosevelt tried and failed to put into the well. If you are European it goes without saying, but for both cases if your surrounding community and/or family is particularly xian then that is another issue and problem. You can still go to things like local libraries and whatnot (not at the moment lol) but also literally just the internet. The internet that came around in the 90's is OUR history as humanity as if the guy who made it for his office originally decided to go and sell it to jews for a quick buck- it would be a different situation. Because he let it go open source, we have the situation today- the internet and social media is what has caused all the news nowadays to be as retarded and "podcast-y" as it is for example. That wouldn't of happened without it. Mainstream media is not long away from going bankrupt, and if we come around to the limelight too soon we'll probably give them enough fuel actually to fuck around for a few more years like the circus it is. Nevertheless, this whole world situation and the constantly shifting modern culture that has no trends, people earning money in online jobs and markets and other shit, this is caused by the WWW= The 666 in numerology/gematria. The same 666 that you used to post this can show you what exactly has happened in our past, on top of that it is a case of your own mind and compulsions. If I didn't have the internet personally, I'm not sure where I would be today as I care a lot about history and the education system in my country led me to end up in drugs so without the internet to teach me the true history I sought it would be a shitty situation for me and everyone likewise. People didn't become 100% literate to end up in further jewish lies, Nietzsche as one example would be astonished by the internet.

"God" is observable in a lot of men and women even now. They might not be the Gods, but they have their own history and they are your people. Unless it is given by the HP's or you commune with the Gods of their history themselves, you'll never know the God's history totally just yet and you would be pissing in the wind. With questions that are intensive and deep it is usually always a case for patience. Like a child who wonders why older people have certain things about their body like facial hair or breasts, they'll figure it out as they age patiently.

I remember back in the 90s the enemy was pretty much taking over earth completely. I was quite spiritually open as a kid and lost a lot of it till more recently. The fear energy and darkness around earth was horrible and energy of everything. I wouldn’t doubt if they had this place sealed off astrally from the Gods and this ritual in freeing them was working with them to break through this binding and allow them to interact fully with us.

The other thing you have to realize is power. Notice how the enemy can do less and less with little power and while they are not fully exposed in the physical on the astral they have little power.

Maybe what Maxine and others were doing was giving the Gods power in the form of energy so they could do more on earth and influence it again. I would not doubt if the enemy had earth so badly they didn’t have any or much power to influence this plane. Don’t know how that works but it appears now the enemy instead will be at that point very soon.

For what I understood our side lost a battle, then the demons had part of their soul imprisioned and were abused by mainstream magicians until Maxine and other people freed them in ritual.

I don't really know why they had to be freed by humans, but I assumed it had something to do with their physical distance from the Earth.

Vibration probably matters way more than physical distance. Earth and Hell are not close. Interesting enough I had a dream where someone was trying to explain that to me not sure why. I think certain things have to have some sort of power or footing in another world to influence it like a side in a battle. There has to be an opening to our dimension for lack of a better world portal.

That may be what that ritual was about and doing. This is my thoughts.

 

[Blackdragon666]

Binding works to prevent a person from doing something. IMO, the jews bound the Gods to prevent them influencing events on earth while they went on a rampage.

Our Gods have been living in other worlds out there comfortably. The bindings of the enemy only worked here on earth. This reminds me of that story on JoS of a deluded mage who summoned Bune and she toyed with him before finally telling him she couldn't help him with his financial needs as she didn't have power over finances at the time.

The Gods were bound to not be able to have much power here on earth. So that the jews would have their chance to cause degeneracy among humans.

It's like how you can place bindings in your house to for example keep anyone from entering a certain room.

When you have hundreds of millions of Gentiles directing hatred energy at you for centuries, which is used to bind you, even as a God it will have effect to a certain extent. It didn't work entirely as the Gods still interfered in one way or another, cursing the Jews and providing help at crucial points in our history.


The jews are such pieces of shit, it's Gentiles who had to provide the energy to bind the Gods. Fucking annoying low lives.

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

I suppose that the term used ''freed" the Gods, actually means that back then the possibility to communicate with the Gods was not existent, due to the long period of jewish subversion( of our cultures and replacing it with their filth, xianity and pisslam) in which the enemy(and it s sheeps) have cursed the Gods, blasphemed this world and put it into a "box", their matrix, in which we couldn t communicate with the Gods. This is more like a speculation of mine because I also had this question many times, and I believe I ve read something about it here on the forums back when I joined.

That's also another question that rises from thinking hard enough about all this that we know came to be: how exactly did HP Maxine, and anyone else that has or might have done the same, get started in the first place? I asked myself this so many times I decided it'll be one of the first things I'll ask the Gods when I can make a decent contact and hold a conversation.

Your "box" theory seems valid to me, especially while I think of how the RTR seems to pierce through this stupid jooish veil and lead to more astral experiences than I've ever been able to get to, but it still won't answer how it all started, without knowledge, without JoS to read from or RTRs to make things easier. Unless HP Maxine is already something much closer to a Demoness herself, which knowing how powerful and experienced she is, really wouldn't surprise me that much. I'll always be extremely grateful to her and every step forward towards the Gods and Father Satan that I make are because of her incredible work.

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

there was little chance of us winning unless humanity showed they actually seriously cared about Satan and our Gods- which is what Maxine proved to them by doing what she did. This probably restored a lot of their heart and faith in us and what we are capable of separate from their interference and will of made them feel proud of us. Pride is of Light, and the Solar Plexus chakra the powerhouse of the Soul. After years of spirit abuse at the hands of idiots the Gods had a reason to feel proud of us again and fight off the temporary plague instead of just leaving us to our fates and moving on

I know that due to my current inability to speak with the Gods at will, all I can do is follow logic and try to understand what may be right. But your explanation sounds pretty convincing to me. One thing I very often think to myself is that "I want to make Satan and the Demons proud of me", which is still very much a long shot due to my lack of experience and power and openness, but it resonates with me. Makes me feel like I am on an existing right track, not just an imaginary, delusional one.
I feel that to make them proud would be to deserve what Father Satan had intended for us since the beginning.
(To be perfectly honest, and please don't refrain from telling me I am a complete idiot should you feel like that.. sometimes I even thought that this 'condition' could possibly be a test, to see if we still rise in the face of a constant danger, threat, manipulation, and if we make it past a certain level, perhaps a level that we can reach by ourselves before the Gods come back and help us raise by annihilating the enemy and ensuring we, deserving children, survive and thrive and join our beloved creators. Again, sorry if this sounds ...I don't know. Extremely far fetched or a lack of ..faith? I find it to be such a stupid xian word, honestly.)

The "Pride" (the "Sin of Pride".. lol, everything good is a sin to a fool) then could possibly just be one of the keys we need to obtain in order to let the Gods know we learned our lesson and are ready for more. That's one way I can possibly think of, at least. Never thought of it in these exact terms, though, but your reply made me wonder about this possibility.

Thank you for taking the time to explain your understanding of things so in detail, I hope I can learn by myself soon enough as well.

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

For what I understood our side lost a battle, then the demons had part of their soul imprisioned and were abused by mainstream magicians until Maxine and other people freed them in ritual.

I don't really know why they had to be freed by humans, but I assumed it had something to do with their physical distance from the Earth.

Don't know about the distance from Earth.. :/ and it just baffles me to think that some magicians or whoever else could possibly do something to weaken our Gods. I haven't really had much experience with them yet, but I always thought they'd be... pretty much undefeatable? And speaking of which, I also wonder.. what if something like that event, when/if they were weakened, could repeat itself?

Other than historical interest, I'm also asking because if there's anything I can do to help them I will. They are the best thing that ever happened to me (even though I'm not experienced almost at all) and I'll fight whatever's in the way to protect my beloved Gods.

 

[Seby]

By binding the Gods, the enemy only weakened Their influence on this world. The Gods were still capable to contact mankind, it just took more energy that was more useful when spent in fights against the reptards.

 

[Sundara]

First of all, I want to apologize if this question has been answered already a number of times. I tried to look for the answers with the Forum Search method but there's just too many mentions of the same words in other unrelated topics, so here we are.

I've been reading the JoS several times, and there are still pages I don't completely understand. As soon as I stumbled upon the JoyOfSatan website in 2002 (I got there looking for real information on Telekinesis, my all time favorite ability one could say), and after the initial surge of happiness KNOWING I was finally Home, I began reading about the Demons. Somehow, I didn't read much about Satan, as I already felt Him as a Father and didn't need much more to know I could trust Him completely.
So I read about Demons and got mind blown at how amazing and different they were, and how much we could learn from them, and even befriend them.
But something I really never understood, so I'm asking you today because it's one of the few doubts I have.

This is not in any way a doubt that would possibly lead me away from Spiritual Satanism, actually it's exactly the opposite, as (long story short) 1) the RTRs have caused me to feel more of my upper chakras 2) I used this slight advantage in order to find out who my Guardian is in a way I haven't done before (so no beginner's pendulum, no "guessing", no "look for the same dominant Element" for once, just plain feeling) 3) and I started having very very brief visions of shapes and colors I can't yet understand, a "tingling" when I asked if Raum (pendulum called Him Chnum back in 2003) was my Guardian and this morning I had a dream about Phenex/Phoenix (I've had a bunch of visions of actualy phoenix birds in 2013 after I had my first encounter with Haures, and somehow always thought these 'phoenix' birds were Hers).

This intro (sorry for the lenghty intro) just to say that I started questioning myself and how much I actually know about Demons, wishing to be able to understand more and trust them more than I already do (I feel that I only trust them in a "theoretical" way, not being able to summon yet, just reading about them and loving them, and I want to learn how to trust them in a "practical" way, speaking with them, working with them, being directed to success faster than just shooting in the dark with my meditations and trying to understand without a Guide).

So here's the question, sorry if it's stupid:
I keep reading of how JoS members (in the first years of JoS website existence) have "freed" Demons, so much that our Gods looked weaker to some and physically different but "bolted wings after being freed", as HP Maxine mentions.
So why did our beloved Gods (being Gods, much more powerful than we are) needed being freed? And why by us weaker beings? What has happened to them that has made them weaker and in need of help?

I guess I don't know much about our history, just the guidelines I can read in the JoS, I always postponed understanding these questions until I could have summoned my Guardian properly and asked Him/Her, but now, in the face of all that's been happening, I feel it's more important to know just how much we can, or "I" can, help our Gods, what I can do to ensure they never get weakened again, how I can ensure we are ONLY rising from this point forward, not falling back one single step.

What exactly happened in our past?

I can feel how the Demons are trying to toss me a line in order for me to grab on and work with them, but it's a long shot for now, I'm still not strong enough, open enough, and I REALLY want to boost myself (in relative safety, but I don't mind dangerous energies, like Elements or more if possible) in order to at least get close to one of the Gods and work my way up, doing something useful for them and us while on Earth.

I'm already doing RTRs of course, that goes without saying, but it doesn't feel like much. I could be doing more. I just need the guidance so many have already had.

Thanks for reading these rants.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

Great questions, When you get further into meditation, and the RTR’s (freeing yourself) you’ll be able to understand the astral much better.

Prior religious programming teaches us that “God” or “Gods” are to be impenetrable and all mighty, and yes the Gods of Hell are. They’re alive and infinitely powerful. BUT when there is a war amongst the heavens, because of astral parasites and enemy nordics, that’s power against power. Satan is the most powerful and the only way the enemies of Satan could achieve anything here on earth was due to the age of Pisces. They’d fucked up other planets in the past as well. They’re basically a virus to all living things. If you can understand natural viruses and parasites, it’s basically this same thing but on the astral.

They bound the gods from their connection to humans and the earth, through our chakras and an energy matrix, using our own powerful rituals in reverse to do so. We are connected to the Gods by blood, and by spirit. We can facilitate their connection to the planet. Just like the Jews facilitate the reptilian race to the planet. It’s a mass working of magic. As above so below. Put it into perspective though, their “reign” only lasted 2000 years and now they’re crumbling like the weak force they are. Satan’s reign is far more extensive and will always be. If we can get away from linear thinking and understand the astral, it makes more sense. Why this happened to begin with, when Satan advanced humanity and gave us free will, there was another side that wanted us
as slaves.

When the Gods were freed, they could be seen differently then versus now based on how well they could be seen through the matrix, this is one reason. Their power here had been fluctuating due to jewish curses, and I believe they had some kind of bind on them too. Not the same as ours due to their immortality, they couldn’t degenerate, they haven’t been damaged. They were merely stifled for a time. That doesn’t mean they themselves aren’t the most powerful. There’s been a block between them and humanity. The more free you become, like with the RTR’s, the more clearly you can see the Gods. The more advanced you are and the higher your vibration, then you can see them on a higher level and not the lower forms. There are different forms for different levels. Humans have this too. Sometimes our looks can change based on the astral level. Mine do, at least.

I don’t personally think that the Gods themselves were bound like us.

It’s mainly something inside of ourselves that can perceive the Gods differently at different times. When we clear our pathways and raise our levels, we can see and do more. We can see the truth and understand how this all happened. Regarding when they were freed and their blocks were removed, well I think Maxine has an incredibly powerful soul. I can see personally how and why with all of this, but this is a concept I have difficulty putting into words. Being on earth and having a Satanic soul, especially being reincarnated directly from the good times, we can facilitate this connection to the gods again working to reconnect them to us from the astral to the physical. What they she did was break those primary bindings on the Gods, the bindings were in this energy matrix, and then they were able to work with more of us, reach us. Ect. Now we are working on the rest of the matrix with the RTR’s and working on freeing the people.

I’m curious about more on this too, though. I think it’s something the Gods can help answer with advancement.

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

By binding the Gods, the enemy only weakened Their influence on this world. The Gods were still capable to contact mankind, it just took more energy that was more useful when spent in fights against the reptards.

The easy, short version (in the light of what I'm slowly coming to realize) is making more and more sense. Thank you for your reply.

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

Great questions, When you get further into meditation, and the RTR’s (freeing yourself) you’ll be able to understand the astral much better.

Prior religious programming teaches us that “God” or “Gods” are to be impenetrable and all mighty, and yes the Gods of Hell are. They’re alive and infinitely powerful. BUT when there is a war amongst the heavens, because of astral parasites and enemy nordics, that’s power against power. Satan is the most powerful and the only way the enemies of Satan could achieve anything here on earth was due to the age of Pisces. They’d fucked up other planets in the past as well. They’re basically a virus to all living things. If you can understand natural viruses and parasites, it’s basically this same thing but on the astral.

They bound the gods from their connection to humans and the earth, through our chakras and an energy matrix, using our own powerful rituals in reverse to do so. We are connected to the Gods by blood, and by spirit. We can facilitate their connection to the planet. Just like the Jews facilitate the reptilian race to the planet. It’s a mass working of magic. As above so below. Put it into perspective though, their “reign” only lasted 2000 years and now they’re crumbling like the weak force they are. Satan’s reign is far more extensive and will always be. If we can get away from linear thinking and understand the astral, it makes more sense. Why this happened to begin with, when Satan advanced humanity and gave us free will, there was another side that wanted us
as slaves.

When the Gods were freed, they could be seen differently then versus now based on how well they could be seen through the matrix, this is one reason. Their power here had been fluctuating due to jewish curses, and I believe they had some kind of bind on them too. Not the same as ours due to their immortality, they couldn’t degenerate, they haven’t been damaged. They were merely stifled for a time. That doesn’t mean they themselves aren’t the most powerful. There’s been a block between them and humanity. The more free you become, like with the RTR’s, the more clearly you can see the Gods. The more advanced you are and the higher your vibration, then you can see them on a higher level and not the lower forms. There are different forms for different levels. Humans have this too. Sometimes our looks can change based on the astral level. Mine do, at least.

I don’t personally think that the Gods themselves were bound like us.

It’s mainly something inside of ourselves that can perceive the Gods differently at different times. When we clear our pathways and raise our levels, we can see and do more. We can see the truth and understand how this all happened. Regarding when they were freed and their blocks were removed, well I think Maxine has an incredibly powerful soul. I can see personally how and why with all of this, but this is a concept I have difficulty putting into words. Being on earth and having a Satanic soul, especially being reincarnated directly from the good times, we can facilitate this connection to the gods again working to reconnect them to us from the astral to the physical. What they she did was break those primary bindings on the Gods, the bindings were in this energy matrix, and then they were able to work with more of us, reach us. Ect. Now we are working on the rest of the matrix with the RTR’s and working on freeing the people.

I’m curious about more on this too, though. I think it’s something the Gods can help answer with advancement.

The way you describe it makes a lot of sense actually. I guess I'm just not advanced enough yet to be able to tell these things for myself (I'm really still trying to figure myself out as "great successes" paired with "inability to feel anything for years" makes very little sense).

So the more energy levels I advance, the more I see from the Gods and what I see changes according to my perception of energy. That's very logical, I never thought I'd see different forms for the same being. Always just thought that they present themselves in ways the human will perceive them as more friendly or at least 'commonly thought of' (like seeing Father Satan as the pictures show Him), but there's a lot more I didn't realize... I hope the RTR pierces the curse on me and burns it completely, I'm sick of not being able to tell all this and being stuck in a mere physical dimension with little more than tingling pressure and super rare visions. Also, I made up my mind a lot ago on the fact that I would be asking Father for a Succubus wife (monogamous) and I can't do that until I have at least enough of a grip on energy and become a much better meditator.

 

[Sundara]

Great questions, When you get further into meditation, and the RTR’s (freeing yourself) you’ll be able to understand the astral much better.

Prior religious programming teaches us that “God” or “Gods” are to be impenetrable and all mighty, and yes the Gods of Hell are. They’re alive and infinitely powerful. BUT when there is a war amongst the heavens, because of astral parasites and enemy nordics, that’s power against power. Satan is the most powerful and the only way the enemies of Satan could achieve anything here on earth was due to the age of Pisces. They’d fucked up other planets in the past as well. They’re basically a virus to all living things. If you can understand natural viruses and parasites, it’s basically this same thing but on the astral.

They bound the gods from their connection to humans and the earth, through our chakras and an energy matrix, using our own powerful rituals in reverse to do so. We are connected to the Gods by blood, and by spirit. We can facilitate their connection to the planet. Just like the Jews facilitate the reptilian race to the planet. It’s a mass working of magic. As above so below. Put it into perspective though, their “reign” only lasted 2000 years and now they’re crumbling like the weak force they are. Satan’s reign is far more extensive and will always be. If we can get away from linear thinking and understand the astral, it makes more sense. Why this happened to begin with, when Satan advanced humanity and gave us free will, there was another side that wanted us
as slaves.

When the Gods were freed, they could be seen differently then versus now based on how well they could be seen through the matrix, this is one reason. Their power here had been fluctuating due to jewish curses, and I believe they had some kind of bind on them too. Not the same as ours due to their immortality, they couldn’t degenerate, they haven’t been damaged. They were merely stifled for a time. That doesn’t mean they themselves aren’t the most powerful. There’s been a block between them and humanity. The more free you become, like with the RTR’s, the more clearly you can see the Gods. The more advanced you are and the higher your vibration, then you can see them on a higher level and not the lower forms. There are different forms for different levels. Humans have this too. Sometimes our looks can change based on the astral level. Mine do, at least.

I don’t personally think that the Gods themselves were bound like us.

It’s mainly something inside of ourselves that can perceive the Gods differently at different times. When we clear our pathways and raise our levels, we can see and do more. We can see the truth and understand how this all happened. Regarding when they were freed and their blocks were removed, well I think Maxine has an incredibly powerful soul. I can see personally how and why with all of this, but this is a concept I have difficulty putting into words. Being on earth and having a Satanic soul, especially being reincarnated directly from the good times, we can facilitate this connection to the gods again working to reconnect them to us from the astral to the physical. What they she did was break those primary bindings on the Gods, the bindings were in this energy matrix, and then they were able to work with more of us, reach us. Ect. Now we are working on the rest of the matrix with the RTR’s and working on freeing the people.

I’m curious about more on this too, though. I think it’s something the Gods can help answer with advancement.

The way you describe it makes a lot of sense actually. I guess I'm just not advanced enough yet to be able to tell these things for myself (I'm really still trying to figure myself out as "great successes" paired with "inability to feel anything for years" makes very little sense).

So the more energy levels I advance, the more I see from the Gods and what I see changes according to my perception of energy. That's very logical, I never thought I'd see different forms for the same being. Always just thought that they present themselves in ways the human will perceive them as more friendly or at least 'commonly thought of' (like seeing Father Satan as the pictures show Him), but there's a lot more I didn't realize... I hope the RTR pierces the curse on me and burns it completely, I'm sick of not being able to tell all this and being stuck in a mere physical dimension with little more than tingling pressure and super rare visions. Also, I made up my mind a lot ago on the fact that I would be asking Father for a Succubus wife (monogamous) and I can't do that until I have at least enough of a grip on energy and become a much better meditator.

I think that’s a very wise decision, to wait and to get to know yourself. Gods as partners can be very wonderful but it’s serious and sacred. It becomes very... REAL. It can even get sad. You’ll experience a lot together though. Shit I know so many people who would just have this “yeah I win, I have a Goddess all to myself I’m the shit” mentality then regret it later. Not saying that’s you. Those people also aren’t satanists so.


I am personally truly non-monogamous and have been since I started even dating, young. I’ve been in monogamous relationships before.
Poly or open relationships to me are no less deep and sometimes far more deep. Maybe I’m a just a big sloppy slut :lol: (that word sucks for real tho) There’s a huge misconception about polyamory, that it’s not real love or that you won’t feel special or individual. It’s not about just sex, and I think it’s okay to truly be in love with more than one person. I’m talking about real love. Society just has a ways to go on this concept. Sometimes I settle into monogamous relationships. Both are great but in the grand scheme of infinity, it’s probably better to leave some doors open :lol:

Yes believe it or not, the more open we become the more logical we realize this all is. I’m glad that made sense for you, I’m sometimes hesitant to try and communicate experiences because it’s tough. Satanism is the most natural and simultaneously logical. Where freedom and imagination meet reality. Everyone is seeking magic in places they’ll never Satan guides without a book though, seriously. Find it. It’s literally right in front of us and within us, people just can’t see it yet.


The meditations Satan has brought forth, especially the RTR, lately I’ve felt so free. I can feel every positive emotion, laugh and cry more, see the beauty in everything around me. I am in a really pretty area though, so I’ll give it that. They also make me wanna have a massive orgy in the Rocky Mountains of Scandinavia, oiled up and on fire. The RTR’s are literally sexy as hell.

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

I think that’s a very wise decision, to wait and to get to know yourself. Gods as partners can be very wonderful but it’s serious and sacred. It becomes very... REAL. It can even get sad. You’ll experience a lot together though. Shit I know so many people who would just have this “yeah I win, I have a Goddess all to myself I’m the shit” mentality then regret it later. Not saying that’s you. Those people also aren’t satanists so.

I am personally truly non-monogamous and have been since I started even dating, young. I’ve been in monogamous relationships before.
Poly or open relationships to me are no less deep and sometimes far more deep. Maybe I’m a just a big sloppy slut :lol: (that word sucks for real tho) There’s a huge misconception about polyamory, that it’s not real love or that you won’t feel special or individual. It’s not about just sex, and I think it’s okay to truly be in love with more than one person. I’m talking about real love. Society just has a ways to go on this concept. Sometimes I settle into monogamous relationships. Both are great but in the grand scheme of infinity, it’s probably better to leave some doors open :lol:

Yes believe it or not, the more open we become the more logical we realize this all is. I’m glad that made sense for you, I’m sometimes hesitant to try and communicate experiences because it’s tough. Satanism is the most natural and simultaneously logical. Where freedom and imagination meet reality. Everyone is seeking magic in places they’ll never Satan guides without a book though, seriously. Find it. It’s literally right in front of us and within us, people just can’t see it yet.

The meditations Satan has brought forth, especially the RTR, lately I’ve felt so free. I can feel every positive emotion, laugh and cry more, see the beauty in everything around me. I am in a really pretty area though, so I’ll give it that. They also make me wanna have a massive orgy in the Rocky Mountains of Scandinavia, oiled up and on fire. The RTR’s are literally sexy as hell.

Guess some people like to keep their doors open and some close the door as soon as one partner enters their life. I'm one of the monogamous ones, always have been. I tried to live more on the edge, didn't work for me.. only I got really tired of human women's bullshit and lies and deception and decided I'll only date and marry a Demoness, that it's the only way I'll accomplish myself as someone's lover and husband.

And yeah, not one of those people who either brag or whatever and then end up regretting things... if I had a Demoness as a wife She would be all I love and cherish and take care of in the most affectionate and kind way. Maybe it's my inexperience talking, but I can't really imagine anything like that being 'sad'. Sad was the illusion I called love that I 'had' with human partners. That was sad and, in retrospection, pathetic. I'm glad I got dumped the last time by a human immature female. There won't be a next one.

For now I don't even know what Succubi look like. I had a vision the night I asked Father for one and it turned out to be a Goetic Demoness that came to me for reasons I still haven't understood, who also may be a Guardian to me. Don't know for sure yet, won't be writing anything in stone until I can mentally hold a conversation with a Demon/Demoness and ask them what the reason for the visit was.

I think I know, just a little, what you mean when you say people don't see where magic is. This 'physical' dimension is a farce, if one saw the energy of everything, constantly, the whole reality would look quite different and infinitely more possibilities would be noticed without even looking for them. I wonder when I will open my eye in such a way. The only times I can see Demons or any vision my eyes are shut, I see nothing in the physical world merged with the astral, it distracts me too much from whatever astral information I can get, and it's already very difficult just like that.

Glad the RTR gives you that effect. I need to work on it more, it felt more powerful in the past weeks, now it's not so strong to me.. also, I **MUST** use meditations that brutally activate head chakras. I get them to start like an engine sometimes, with little effort even. Then when I try something else, like chanting Demons names or void meditating waiting for some message, nothing.. can't even feel or just very slightly. :/

 

[Sundara]

I think that’s a very wise decision, to wait and to get to know yourself. Gods as partners can be very wonderful but it’s serious and sacred. It becomes very... REAL. It can even get sad. You’ll experience a lot together though. Shit I know so many people who would just have this “yeah I win, I have a Goddess all to myself I’m the shit” mentality then regret it later. Not saying that’s you. Those people also aren’t satanists so.

I am personally truly non-monogamous and have been since I started even dating, young. I’ve been in monogamous relationships before.
Poly or open relationships to me are no less deep and sometimes far more deep. Maybe I’m a just a big sloppy slut :lol: (that word sucks for real tho) There’s a huge misconception about polyamory, that it’s not real love or that you won’t feel special or individual. It’s not about just sex, and I think it’s okay to truly be in love with more than one person. I’m talking about real love. Society just has a ways to go on this concept. Sometimes I settle into monogamous relationships. Both are great but in the grand scheme of infinity, it’s probably better to leave some doors open :lol:

Yes believe it or not, the more open we become the more logical we realize this all is. I’m glad that made sense for you, I’m sometimes hesitant to try and communicate experiences because it’s tough. Satanism is the most natural and simultaneously logical. Where freedom and imagination meet reality. Everyone is seeking magic in places they’ll never Satan guides without a book though, seriously. Find it. It’s literally right in front of us and within us, people just can’t see it yet.

The meditations Satan has brought forth, especially the RTR, lately I’ve felt so free. I can feel every positive emotion, laugh and cry more, see the beauty in everything around me. I am in a really pretty area though, so I’ll give it that. They also make me wanna have a massive orgy in the Rocky Mountains of Scandinavia, oiled up and on fire. The RTR’s are literally sexy as hell.

Guess some people like to keep their doors open and some close the door as soon as one partner enters their life. I'm one of the monogamous ones, always have been. I tried to live more on the edge, didn't work for me.. only I got really tired of human women's bullshit and lies and deception and decided I'll only date and marry a Demoness, that it's the only way I'll accomplish myself as someone's lover and husband.

And yeah, not one of those people who either brag or whatever and then end up regretting things... if I had a Demoness as a wife She would be all I love and cherish and take care of in the most affectionate and kind way. Maybe it's my inexperience talking, but I can't really imagine anything like that being 'sad'. Sad was the illusion I called love that I 'had' with human partners. That was sad and, in retrospection, pathetic. I'm glad I got dumped the last time by a human immature female. There won't be a next one.

For now I don't even know what Succubi look like. I had a vision the night I asked Father for one and it turned out to be a Goetic Demoness that came to me for reasons I still haven't understood, who also may be a Guardian to me. Don't know for sure yet, won't be writing anything in stone until I can mentally hold a conversation with a Demon/Demoness and ask them what the reason for the visit was.

I think I know, just a little, what you mean when you say people don't see where magic is. This 'physical' dimension is a farce, if one saw the energy of everything, constantly, the whole reality would look quite different and infinitely more possibilities would be noticed without even looking for them. I wonder when I will open my eye in such a way. The only times I can see Demons or any vision my eyes are shut, I see nothing in the physical world merged with the astral, it distracts me too much from whatever astral information I can get, and it's already very difficult just like that.

Glad the RTR gives you that effect. I need to work on it more, it felt more powerful in the past weeks, now it's not so strong to me.. also, I **MUST** use meditations that brutally activate head chakras. I get them to start like an engine sometimes, with little effort even. Then when I try something else, like chanting Demons names or void meditating waiting for some message, nothing.. can't even feel or just very slightly. :/

Awesome! Have you opened all of your chakras?

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

Awesome! Have you opened all of your chakras?

To be honest with you and give you the short answer, "I don't know". I've done all the awakening exercises multiple times, felt little to nothing at all and only lately I've started (since I begun the RTR routine in January) to feel my third eye and temples as working. Can't say if I have any advantage/skill from them yet as I haven't seen more than the super brief visions I usually do, so I don't know about the other chakras. I felt the second one when absorbing energy with my upper chakras and directing the energy there (even without directing it, I'd feel the second getting slightly more active). Felt the first clearly enough only once. Normally don't feel anything unless I pay particular attention to them and the sense of pressure makes itself known.

Hence, I still have a lot of work ahead of me.
The weird thing, though, I have some skills, some that I can use whenever, some that only worked on rare or unique occasions, and they suggest I have them all open because of the quality of things I caused to happen. I don't like to brag though, so as long as I don't understand exactly what and how I did and can repeat the thing on a whim, I'm not going to count some of them among my skills, just the easy ones.

 

[Sundara]

Awesome! Have you opened all of your chakras?

To be honest with you and give you the short answer, "I don't know". I've done all the awakening exercises multiple times, felt little to nothing at all and only lately I've started (since I begun the RTR routine in January) to feel my third eye and temples as working. Can't say if I have any advantage/skill from them yet as I haven't seen more than the super brief visions I usually do, so I don't know about the other chakras. I felt the second one when absorbing energy with my upper chakras and directing the energy there (even without directing it, I'd feel the second getting slightly more active). Felt the first clearly enough only once. Normally don't feel anything unless I pay particular attention to them and the sense of pressure makes itself known.

Hence, I still have a lot of work ahead of me.
The weird thing, though, I have some skills, some that I can use whenever, some that only worked on rare or unique occasions, and they suggest I have them all open because of the quality of things I caused to happen. I don't like to brag though, so as long as I don't understand exactly what and how I did and can repeat the thing on a whim, I'm not going to count some of them among my skills, just the easy ones.

That’s okay it’s not bragging, we all have capabilities, especially through Satan, and it’s important to recognize them and practice them. You may have opened everything and that’s a start, it’s a daily process. Learning out to feel the energy and chakras, control it, learning about what’s buried in your psyche, and most importantly controlling your mind are going to be your best friends. You’re going great though, especially if you’re new! Hail Satan!

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

That’s okay it’s not bragging, we all have capabilities, especially through Satan, and it’s important to recognize them and practice them. You may have opened everything and that’s a start, it’s a daily process. Learning out to feel the energy and chakras, control it, learning about what’s buried in your psyche, and most importantly controlling your mind are going to be your best friends. You’re going great though, especially if you’re new! Hail Satan!

I'm not really new but I feel that I have just started being as serious as I should have been from the start. Guess I didn't realize either what worked for me (there wasn't an RTR in 2002 yet unfortunately) and how much I was going to give to my own training in order to advance. Tried lots of things on multiple occasions, nothing worked until the RTR done for enough days in a row. Now I'm slowly but finally starting to see results. Vibrating Gods' names, doing more RTR, using Akasha as the "main element" in order to balance them all at once. It's getting me somewhere at last.

 

[GG Allin]

So here's the question, sorry if it's stupid:
I keep reading of how JoS members (in the first years of JoS website existence) have "freed" Demons, so much that our Gods looked weaker to some and physically different but "bolted wings after being freed", as HP Maxine mentions.
So why did our beloved Gods (being Gods, much more powerful than we are) needed being freed? And why by us weaker beings? What has happened to them that has made them weaker and in need of help?

"After the nuclear attack from the enemy the gods did back off to thear home planet. they were not physikally bound. the astral communication with them was permanently blocked/disturbed. this is like someone would call your phone every day . your phone wouldn´t work. HP Maxine and the others did break this. So we are again abel to communicate whith them more easy." Me

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21063&p=91463&hilit=gods+astral#p91463

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

"After the nuclear attack from the enemy the gods did back off to thear home planet. they were not physikally bound. the astral communication with them was permanently blocked/disturbed. this is like someone would call your phone every day . your phone wouldn´t work. HP Maxine and the others did break this. So we are again abel to communicate whith them more easy." Me

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21063&p=91463&hilit=gods+astral#p91463

Thanks for your answer. I guess the only time I'll really understand it is going to be when I'm able to hear it from a Demons' mouth but it makes pretty much sense for now. There's still so much I don't know or understand, and without Demons in my life to speak with the questions just pile up (especially cuz I'm someone who thinks and questions a lot lol).

 

[GG Allin]

"After the nuclear attack from the enemy the gods did back off to thear home planet. they were not physikally bound. the astral communication with them was permanently blocked/disturbed. this is like someone would call your phone every day . your phone wouldn´t work. HP Maxine and the others did break this. So we are again abel to communicate whith them more easy." Me

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21063&p=91463&hilit=gods+astral#p91463

Thanks for your answer. I guess the only time I'll really understand it is going to be when I'm able to hear it from a Demons' mouth but it makes pretty much sense for now. There's still so much I don't know or understand, and without Demons in my life to speak with the questions just pile up (especially cuz I'm someone who thinks and questions a lot lol).

I use for opening this:
Opening All The Psychic Centers
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=25007&p=112049&hilit=psychic+centers+opening#p112049
13 M sounds mittle head 13 M sounds 3rd eye
18 reps affirmation:
"In a positive and healthy way for me all my psychic centers are fully open, cleaned/purified [what ever you prefer], empowered."

 

[Satan_is_our_Father666]

I use for opening this:
Opening All The Psychic Centers
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=25007&p=112049&hilit=psychic+centers+opening#p112049
13 M sounds mittle head 13 M sounds 3rd eye
18 reps affirmation:
"In a positive and healthy way for me all my psychic centers are fully open, cleaned/purified [what ever you prefer], empowered."

Saved it all, thank you very much. I like the M sound a lot, also it's very easy to 'conceal it' when in public and I can use it at work unlike other mantras and names of our Gods which attract more attention.

HAIL SATAN!!!!