The Gods #77121 How can you dispute these claims

[AskSatanOperator]

Hello I have been an atheist girl a very long time I don't believe in God's and this video pretty much sums my views,

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

Hello I have been an atheist girl a very long time I don't believe in God's and this video pretty much sums my views,

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

Hello.

The video you shared with us is over an hour long.
I would like to answer you well and then watch it slowly.
If you give me a week maximum I will work on it.
Maybe less time is needed, but very often I am used that commenting on such videos that last even 10 minutes takes several hours to do it well.
So in a week you will definitely get my answer.
Please check this topic next week. Thank you!!!

- The Symmachos of Zeus

 

[Hs666]

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God cannot be understood by the human being who has not achieved a certain spiritual growth.

“Logic” cannot reach him. Science and humanity at this time are very far from understanding, partly because of the enemy and its system.

 

[Hárbarðr]

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

Hello,

I believe you are mistaken. There are no "religious" people here, in the way atheists mean it. There are occultists/esotericists/spiritualists, which are a completely different thing than religious people. Just because they talk about "Gods" doesn't mean they are the same or the believe the same things or have the same worldview as xians or Muslims, for example.

I didn't watch the 1 hour long video, but I'm familiar with most atheist talking points which even though they are good against religion, they are irrelevant against spirituality/occultism because it's a completely different thing.

I agree with the text in the thumbnail "Religion runs on ignorance". Please read our main site and you will see we are entirely different from mainstream religions since it's mostly based on experience and knowledge (much like ancient initiatory Mystery Schools) instead of "faith":

Temple of Zeus

Spirituality#Religion
Occultism#Religion

Religion=made up human rules and books that you need to have blind faith in, all designed to control people.
Spirituality=connecting with higher beings and truths and unlocking and empowering parts of your soul by yourself, without depending on others or on "faith".

 

[AFODO]

I haven't watched the video but our Gods are extra-terrestrial beings, and the existence of extra-terrestrial beings are one of the most likely true theory in cosmology.

As for the spiritual side of the world, people can experience it empirically, we don't have completely proof of it scientifically yet, but it's also that a lot of modern science is just theory and not experienced empirically. So what is the more real? Something that you can experience but not prove in numbers, or something that you can prove in numbers but there is no empirical evidence?

It's just that people have no definite way of advancing spiritually because they are not Zevists. As a Zevists however you'll experience "energy" within weeks, you'll have no doubt about the existence of the spiritual world within months, and you'll have no doubt about the existence of the Gods and about anything the ToZ says within years.

 

[WoadWarrior]

I watched the video he dosen't really make any points, he just says science has buried the belief in these beings but does not expand upon it, he even references Ares, in what manner has science in any way disputed the existence of Ares?

He makes good arguments against monotheism but his arguments against pantheism fall into "well most people dont believe in them" he also erroneously chalks up the decline in Pagan beliefs as something "science" did when it reality it was a large generational long series of genocides and cultural erasure that caused this to happen, it wasnt science that made charlamagne butcher pagans, it was not science that caused muslims to slaughter arab pagans, science did not cause the northern crusade.

The decline of Paganism and the rise of scientific query are in fact completely unrelated in fact scientific thought was at its zenith before the renaissance during the dominance of Paganism, it was after the rise of the abrahamics that science was tossed aside and the dark ages formed, the evolution of science and the decline of paganism are not even correlated to one one another let alone there being a causation.

 

[Henu the Great]

Hello,

I believe you are mistaken. There are no "religious" people here, in the way atheists mean it. There are occultists/esotericists/spiritualists, which are a completely different thing than religious people. Just because they talk about "Gods" doesn't mean they are the same or the believe the same things or have the same worldview as xians or Muslims, for example.

I didn't watch the 1 hour long video, but I'm familiar with most atheist talking points which even though they are good against religion, they are irrelevant against spirituality/occultism because it's a completely different thing.

I agree with the text in the thumbnail "Religion runs on ignorance". Please read our main site and you will see we are entirely different from mainstream religions since it's mostly based on experience and knowledge (much like ancient initiatory Mystery Schools) instead of "faith":

Temple of Zeus

Spirituality#Religion
Occultism#Religion

Religion=made up human rules and books that you need to have blind faith in, all designed to control people.
Spirituality=connecting with higher beings and truths and unlocking and empowering parts of your soul by yourself, without depending on others or on "faith".

Christianity and the ilk simply made the connotation of religion something poisoned. Yes, Zevism is a religion. A modern representation of the original religion of mankind with the aim of restoration of it at the present moment.

 

[OttoHart]

For typical arguments against "God", the Divine Mind, Unmoved Mover, etc., which we do believe in, there are philosophical arguments to argue for its existence, as well as against. Have fun with ChatGPT discussing it if you're into that, but it's basically just waffling considering the fact that the Divine Mind doesn't care if you believe in it, and one of the things meditation will give you over time is a personal experience of this, which pales in comparison to any semantic arguing.

As for our Gods, the situation is more complex than "man in the sky". They are advanced aliens who communicated with humanity by "wearing masks" that represent universal concepts and forces.

Ares, for example, since he is mentioned in this video, represents the active masculine principle represented in Martian energy. Whether this is an "archetype concept" as an atheist would put it or a real metaphysical force is, again, waffling. It exists in some form. Is it this force talking to us when we work with Ares? No, it is an advanced alien that lives in multiple planes of existence due to His advanced consciousness, with mastery over this force, teaching us about this force through playing the role of it.

Aliens are not "definitively proven", but none of us who have had experiences with the Gods need "proof" of this kind, real proof comes from experience of walking the path, and practicing the practices. We do not have a truth claim slapped in some random book and call it a day, we are a path based on personal experience.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Here's a general tip: very few people have the time or patience to watch 1 hour long YouTube videos just to answer a question. Next time you ask something like that it's better to post the main points such a video makes here instead of the whole video. More people will reply if you write just the main points.

Any video over 5-10 minutes long is boring and not many people can watch it.

 

[Demonic Tech]

...Is it this force talking to us when we work with Ares? No, it is an advanced alien...

Hello there, just bringing up a thing I've read in the forums years ago: Ares, who is Andras, was an Ancient Human from Earth before becoming a God (so technically not an alien).
I have no clue as to if this information is still valid, I actually would love to know if anyone can confirm!

But yeah Alien or Human, your point is the same, and it's a great point at that.
I'm just taking the chance to bring up this bit.

 

[OttoHart]

Hello there, just bringing up a thing I've read in the forums years ago: Ares, who is Andras, was an Ancient Human from Earth before becoming a God (so technically not an alien).
I have no clue as to if this information is still valid, I actually would love to know if anyone can confirm!

But yeah Alien or Human, your point is the same, and it's a great point at that.
I'm just taking the chance to bring up this bit.

I wasn't sure if Ares was a Demigod or a full Nordic, but yes, the point still stands.

 

[Darkwanderer80]

I didn't see the entire video but think about this, laurence m krauss is a jew, it's a know strategy they lead opposition so if people believe in nothing it's great for them it disarms people spiritually while they go on cursing goyim

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

Hello,

I believe you are mistaken. There are no "religious" people here, in the way atheists mean it. There are occultists/esotericists/spiritualists, which are a completely different thing than religious people. Just because they talk about "Gods" doesn't mean they are the same or the believe the same things or have the same worldview as xians or Muslims, for example.

I didn't watch the 1 hour long video, but I'm familiar with most atheist talking points which even though they are good against religion, they are irrelevant against spirituality/occultism because it's a completely different thing.

I agree with the text in the thumbnail "Religion runs on ignorance". Please read our main site and you will see we are entirely different from mainstream religions since it's mostly based on experience and knowledge (much like ancient initiatory Mystery Schools) instead of "faith":

Temple of Zeus

Spirituality#Religion
Occultism#Religion

Religion=made up human rules and books that you need to have blind faith in, all designed to control people.
Spirituality=connecting with higher beings and truths and unlocking and empowering parts of your soul by yourself, without depending on others or on "faith".

We also are scientists basically.

In the same way one can develop their bodies and use them to do any sort of thing.

We know how to use the mind, how to manipulate frequencies, such as those emanated by emotions, those generated by colors, geometry and much more.

These aren't mere beliefs, but techiques, and everything is provable by science.

Certain mantras and allegories are based on quantum phisics for example.

And this knowledge of occultism shaped the world and the conceptions of humanity, that even after the dark ages of christianity (enemy tool of submission and repression of humanity) managed to survive.

You can see them in grammar, languages and ethymologies, way to say things and human conceptions. "Open your eyes" was born from occult, if do it occultly, you lined up yourself to know and understand, allegorically the opening of the so-called 3rd eye.

Even "go fuck yourself" was born out of this. That was related to "Maithuna", and to gain the benefits of sane sexual activity and all it's outcomes. This survived as an insult "hey you are not thinking straight, what's wrong with you, have some sex and come back with a better mentality"..

You can see occult in money, in their symbols, you can see it in medical sectors and hospitals. You can see it in space too, all the things are tended to be called with Ancient Greek names related to mithology.
From planets to satellites.

Even the concept of hierarchy, which is everywhere. You see it as someone on top and someone down. But why? Why not someone on right and someone on left, or viceversa?

The conception derived from occult, and it was rooted in the minds of humanity.

All the symbols, allegories and pratices are based on quantum phisics, and are aimed to reach a certain goal.

This is like opening a door, than in the most majority of cases, you then have to act and walk pass that door to manifest. But if it is closed you can't pass. Hope you get what I mean.

What we call Truth and God is the perfect system of things for the universe, and all that exists. This is about growth, justice, eliminating obstacles (ignorance and others), marvels beyond imaginations and much more.

As the body have a consiousness and many "invisible" layers in it, such as what we call soul, to live and exists.

Also the universe have one, and this is Zeus, that represent the Truth.

You can imagine it also as the brain of the universe in a sense. Brain is 1 and the center is 1, but it as many parts in it and many layers. These in regard of the universe are the other Gods.

You can also see it as a Sun with his rays.

I know this is complex, but as you see, it's based on science, and not on superstitions, lies and other bullshit.
Biblical cults (so called religions) are just tools of slavery created to enslave humanity at all leves, these aren't related in any way to anything divine.

Zevism isn't about that, here you find Truth, Knowledge and the Divine in his real form. We advance both techonology and both spiritualy, and these goes hand to hand.

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

We also are scientists basically.

In the same way one can develop their bodies and use them to do any sort of thing.

We know how to use the mind, how to manipulate frequencies, such as those emanated by emotions, those generated by colors, geometry and much more.

These aren't mere beliefs, but techiques, and everything is provable by science.

Certain mantras and allegories are based on quantum phisics for example.

And this knowledge of occultism shaped the world and the conceptions of humanity, that even after the dark ages of christianity (enemy tool of submission and repression of humanity) managed to survive.

You can see them in grammar, languages and ethymologies, way to say things and human conceptions. "Open your eyes" was born from occult, if do it occultly, you lined up yourself to know and understand, allegorically the opening of the so-called 3rd eye.

Even "go fuck yourself" was born out of this. That was related to "Maithuna", and to gain the benefits of sane sexual activity and all it's outcomes. This survived as an insult "hey you are not thinking straight, what's wrong with you, have some sex and come back with a better mentality"..

You can see occult in money, in their symbols, you can see it in medical sectors and hospitals. You can see it in space too, all the things are tended to be called with Ancient Greek names related to mithology.
From planets to satellites.

Even the concept of hierarchy, which is everywhere. You see it as someone on top and someone down. But why? Why not someone on right and someone on left, or viceversa?

The conception derived from occult, and it was rooted in the minds of humanity.

All the symbols, allegories and pratices are based on quantum phisics, and are aimed to reach a certain goal.

This is like opening a door, than in the most majority of cases, you then have to act and walk pass that door to manifest. But if it is closed you can't pass. Hope you get what I mean.

What we call Truth and God is the perfect system of things for the universe, and all that exists. This is about growth, justice, eliminating obstacles (ignorance and others), marvels beyond imaginations and much more.

As the body have a consiousness and many "invisible" layers in it, such as what we call soul, to live and exists.

Also the universe have one, and this is Zeus, that represent the Truth.

You can imagine it also as the brain of the universe in a sense. Brain is 1 and the center is 1, but it as many parts in it and many layers. These in regard of the universe are the other Gods.

You can also see it as a Sun with his rays.

I know this is complex, but as you see, it's based on science, and not on superstitions, lies and other bullshit.
Biblical cults (so called religions) are just tools of slavery created to enslave humanity at all leves, these aren't related in any way to anything divine.

Zevism isn't about that, here you find Truth, Knowledge and the Divine in his real form. We advance both techonology and both spiritualy, and these goes hand to hand.

Check also our Ethics in regard of Truth.

The Temple of Zeus Ethics

 

[Hárbarðr]

We also are scientists basically.

In the same way one can develop their bodies and use them to do any sort of thing.

We know how to use the mind, how to manipulate frequencies, such as those emanated by emotions, those generated by colors, geometry and much more.

These aren't mere beliefs, but techiques, and everything is provable by science.

Exactly.

Atheists go to xian forums and debate xians and destroy them, but they don't know much about other religions, not to mention anything about other esoteric/occult/spiritual paths outside of mainstream religions. So, they assume they all are like xianity and they think they can use the same arguments that they use against xians and "own" them, so to speak.

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

Hello I have been an atheist girl a very long time I don't believe in God's and this video pretty much sums my views,

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

UP
*sorry I was forgetting that I have to send the reply tomorrow. Tomorrow morning I start working on it

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

I answered you here finally:

Do the Gods exist?

So, about the video in this thread: https://ancient-forums.com/threads/77121-how-can-you-dispute-these-claims.300038/ 1) Things are already organized in themselves; a God embodies the way the All is organized because God is all This is different from God creating the planets and aligning them...

ancient-forums.com

 

[Alexandros Iowno [TG]]

I do not have time for the video, but all religions in the world should be attacked, the only good things they have done are natural reflections of the ancient past material they stole and basic human nature. True religion has never been attempted at massive levels, that is core spirituality and science of all existence. Word "religion" in the mass mind has been hijacked and destroyed, simplified, we either restore "it" or move past it, one must go deep in Temple of Zeus and all will be clarified.

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

Hello I have been an atheist girl a very long time I don't believe in God's and this video pretty much sums my views,

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

I invite you to try our meditations
You shall surely feel its power and you will see Satan power when you meditate on him when done respectfully
You can start with the 40 days power by our Head High Priest HoodedCobra 666

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

Hello I have been an atheist girl a very long time I don't believe in God's and this video pretty much sums my views,

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

It's Iike everyone here decided we not going to watch this 1 hour long vid
Why don't you try make bullet piont of what the video has said then you could've worked from there

 

[Hárbarðr]

It's Iike everyone here decided we not going to watch this 1 hour long vid
Why don't you try make bullet piont of what the video has said then you could've worked from there

The meme writes itself.