The Gods #77121 How can you dispute these claims

[AskSatanOperator]

Hello I have been an atheist girl a very long time I don't believe in God's and this video pretty much sums my views,

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

 

[Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN]

Hello I have been an atheist girl a very long time I don't believe in God's and this video pretty much sums my views,

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

Hello.

The video you shared with us is over an hour long.
I would like to answer you well and then watch it slowly.
If you give me a week maximum I will work on it.
Maybe less time is needed, but very often I am used that commenting on such videos that last even 10 minutes takes several hours to do it well.
So in a week you will definitely get my answer.
Please check this topic next week. Thank you!!!

- The Symmachos of Zeus

 

[Hs666]

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God cannot be understood by the human being who has not achieved a certain spiritual growth.

“Logic” cannot reach him. Science and humanity at this time are very far from understanding, partly because of the enemy and its system.

 

[Hárbarðr]

I would love to see any religious person take on this video.

Hello,

I believe you are mistaken. There are no "religious" people here, in the way atheists mean it. There are occultists/esotericists/spiritualists, which are a completely different thing than religious people. Just because they talk about "Gods" doesn't mean they are the same or the believe the same things or have the same worldview as xians or Muslims, for example.

I didn't watch the 1 hour long video, but I'm familiar with most atheist talking points which even though they are good against religion, they are irrelevant against spirituality/occultism because it's a completely different thing.

I agree with the text in the thumbnail "Religion runs on ignorance". Please read our main site and you will see we are entirely different from mainstream religions since it's mostly based on experience and knowledge (much like ancient initiatory Mystery Schools) instead of "faith":

Temple of Zeus

Spirituality#Religion
Occultism#Religion

Religion=made up human rules and books that you need to have blind faith in, all designed to control people.
Spirituality=connecting with higher beings and truths and unlocking and empowering parts of your soul by yourself, without depending on others or on "faith".

 

[AFODO]

I haven't watched the video but our Gods are extra-terrestrial beings, and the existence of extra-terrestrial beings are one of the most likely true theory in cosmology.

As for the spiritual side of the world, people can experience it empirically, we don't have completely proof of it scientifically yet, but it's also that a lot of modern science is just theory and not experienced empirically. So what is the more real? Something that you can experience but not prove in numbers, or something that you can prove in numbers but there is no empirical evidence?

It's just that people have no definite way of advancing spiritually because they are not Zevists. As a Zevists however you'll experience "energy" within weeks, you'll have no doubt about the existence of the spiritual world within months, and you'll have no doubt about the existence of the Gods and about anything the ToZ says within years.

 

[WoadWarrior]

I watched the video he dosen't really make any points, he just says science has buried the belief in these beings but does not expand upon it, he even references Ares, in what manner has science in any way disputed the existence of Ares?

He makes good arguments against monotheism but his arguments against pantheism fall into "well most people dont believe in them" he also erroneously chalks up the decline in Pagan beliefs as something "science" did when it reality it was a large generational long series of genocides and cultural erasure that caused this to happen, it wasnt science that made charlamagne butcher pagans, it was not science that caused muslims to slaughter arab pagans, science did not cause the northern crusade.

The decline of Paganism and the rise of scientific query are in fact completely unrelated in fact scientific thought was at its zenith before the renaissance during the dominance of Paganism, it was after the rise of the abrahamics that science was tossed aside and the dark ages formed, the evolution of science and the decline of paganism are not even correlated to one one another let alone there being a causation.

 

[Henu the Great]

Hello,

I believe you are mistaken. There are no "religious" people here, in the way atheists mean it. There are occultists/esotericists/spiritualists, which are a completely different thing than religious people. Just because they talk about "Gods" doesn't mean they are the same or the believe the same things or have the same worldview as xians or Muslims, for example.

I didn't watch the 1 hour long video, but I'm familiar with most atheist talking points which even though they are good against religion, they are irrelevant against spirituality/occultism because it's a completely different thing.

I agree with the text in the thumbnail "Religion runs on ignorance". Please read our main site and you will see we are entirely different from mainstream religions since it's mostly based on experience and knowledge (much like ancient initiatory Mystery Schools) instead of "faith":

Temple of Zeus

Spirituality#Religion
Occultism#Religion

Religion=made up human rules and books that you need to have blind faith in, all designed to control people.
Spirituality=connecting with higher beings and truths and unlocking and empowering parts of your soul by yourself, without depending on others or on "faith".

Christianity and the ilk simply made the connotation of religion something poisoned. Yes, Zevism is a religion. A modern representation of the original religion of mankind with the aim of restoration of it at the present moment.

 

[OttoHart]

For typical arguments against "God", the Divine Mind, Unmoved Mover, etc., which we do believe in, there are philosophical arguments to argue for its existence, as well as against. Have fun with ChatGPT discussing it if you're into that, but it's basically just waffling considering the fact that the Divine Mind doesn't care if you believe in it, and one of the things meditation will give you over time is a personal experience of this, which pales in comparison to any semantic arguing.

As for our Gods, the situation is more complex than "man in the sky". They are advanced aliens who communicated with humanity by "wearing masks" that represent universal concepts and forces.

Ares, for example, since he is mentioned in this video, represents the active masculine principle represented in Martian energy. Whether this is an "archetype concept" as an atheist would put it or a real metaphysical force is, again, waffling. It exists in some form. Is it this force talking to us when we work with Ares? No, it is an advanced alien that lives in multiple planes of existence due to His advanced consciousness, with mastery over this force, teaching us about this force through playing the role of it.

Aliens are not "definitively proven", but none of us who have had experiences with the Gods need "proof" of this kind, real proof comes from experience of walking the path, and practicing the practices. We do not have a truth claim slapped in some random book and call it a day, we are a path based on personal experience.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Here's a general tip: very few people have the time or patience to watch 1 hour long YouTube videos just to answer a question. Next time you ask something like that it's better to post the main points such a video makes here instead of the whole video. More people will reply if you write just the main points.

Any video over 5-10 minutes long is boring and not many people can watch it.