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FancyMancy

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Before I ask my questions, let me say - don't be upset. I am not being a dick or anything; if you choose to be upset by my questions, then you need to grow up.

  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.
  • I suppose my idea that I had for this - if it is the same, which I think it is - was a bad idea. Is FancyMancy shit, or did someone steal his idea and not credit him?

Let's hear (read) it.

Thanks.
 
FancyMancy said:
Before I ask my questions, let me say - don't be upset. I am not being a dick or anything; if you choose to be upset by my questions, then you need to grow up.

  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.
  • I suppose my idea that I had for this - if it is the same, which I think it is - was a bad idea. Is FancyMancy shit, or did someone steal his idea and not credit him?

Let's hear (read) it.

Thanks.

A1. Everone here is guided by Satan, so it is not too far to name it Ask Satan.

A2. You don´t need a email to use Ask Satan. We should be grateful that it was developed.

The only negative I see in it, is that if you want to reply in annonymous way to your own question you have to make another topic and link the old and new one by telling people.
 
FancyMancy said:
  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.


  • It's a fancy-mancy (pun intended) way of saying "Ask questions about Satan(ism)". Don't take it too literally. Unless you're autistic and can't help but take things literally.
 
FancyMancy said:
Before I ask my questions, let me say - don't be upset. I am not being a dick or anything; if you choose to be upset by my questions, then you need to grow up.

  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.
  • I suppose my idea that I had for this - if it is the same, which I think it is - was a bad idea. Is FancyMancy shit, or did someone steal his idea and not credit him?

Let's hear (read) it.

Thanks.

So basically, you are upset because your suggestion didn't get approuved by the clergy and now you want to destroy the other idea who is way more anonymous than your was?

I understand that Satan is not really replying to people asking Ask-Satan Operator, it should be Ask-JoS Operator, but it still got approuved by the clergy.

You don't want people to get upset by making a thread pointing out that you are upset that your idea didn't get approuved because of the lack of anonymity (you were asking people to email you their question with their email adress).

Have a nice day
 
FancyMancy said:
Let's hear (read) it.

How you haven't been banned from these forums all these years is a miracle.

You're just here for attention and I highly doubt you're even an SS to begin with, even though you sometimes make normal SS posts.
Maybe everyone else will want to throw fire at me for saying this to you, but I see through your bullshit. You have the mentality of the average internet/forums troll, and you constantly and subtly make troll posts on the forums while trying to bring attention to yourself and seem like an intelligent and respectable member when in reality you're not and I doubt that you are as well.

Many people here that are more perceptive and notice these things would agree with me, but I know most would not 'just because' you've been around for so long and seem like a real JoS member. That's fine with me. They can have they're own opinions but so can I. I shouldn't be talking about others on the forums like this and I usually keep far away from starting or participating in any drama or arguments with people here, but I will call people out on bullshit if I constantly see it happening.
 
Can someone with actual knowledge give me an on-topic answer to my OP, please, even if you are scrambling to come up with a defensive reason instead of holding your hands up and saying, "Oh, shit. We forgot about that", or "We saw it and stole it and didn't credit you for your idea", or "Well, you're not trusted because...", etc.? Thanks in advance.

To those who were respectful and thought with their Brains instead of with their emotions - thanks. I appreciate your input.

Masterj810610 said:
So basically, you are upset because your suggestion didn't get approuved by the clergy and now you want to destroy the other idea who is way more anonymous than your was?

I understand that Satan is not really replying to people asking Ask-Satan Operator, it should be Ask-JoS Operator, but it still got approuved by the clergy.

You don't want people to get upset by making a thread pointing out that you are upset that your idea didn't get approuved because of the lack of anonymity (you were asking people to email you their question with their email adress).

Have a nice day
Who said I am upset? Who said I want to destroy it? Don't put words in my mouth, thanks. How is this more anonymous? Anyone can use a disposable email address, or just create a new one, post the question, then forget about their new email account.

I didn't say i was upset. I simply asked questions. The reason I said to not be upset with my questions, before I asked them, was because of how the replies would be. I also never said I am upset that my idea was not approved. I asked the questions what I asked. Don't try to put words in my mouth. Thanks.

I didn't say "email me your question my your personally-identifiable email address". Don't put words in my mouth. Thanks.


Betelgeuse said:
How you haven't been banned from these forums all these years is a miracle.
What does that have to do with my questions? Why should I be banned? Because I used to be a christian and I accepted every single thing I was told, and that now I play Devil's Advocate and people like you hate that so that means I should be banned? Is that why I should be banned? Like I said in my OP - don't get upset. I knew how replies would be. I had the guts to ask it anyway. I don't shy away. If I am to be banned, then why don't you work your way up to the top and ban me? This thread is not about me being banned.

You're just here for attention
Am I? Can you prove that?

and I highly doubt you're even an SS to begin with
Your doubts are irrelevant and mean nothing to me. If you are in doubt, then ask Satan (pun not intended) directly, and see what the answer is.

even though you sometimes make normal SS posts.
I'm sorry I can't be a good little sheep christian, bleating along like everyone else. I am sorry I can think for myself. I am sorry I do think for myself.

Maybe everyone else will want to throw fire at me for saying this to you, but I see through your bullshit. You have the mentality of the average internet/forums troll, and you constantly and subtly make troll posts on the forums while trying to bring attention to yourself and seem like an intelligent and respectable member when in reality you're not and I doubt that you are as well.
So I'm not intelligent and you doubt I am? So which is it? Am I not, or do you not think I am? Also - your doubts are irrelevant and mean nothing to me. Ask Satan directly.

Many people here that are more perceptive and notice these things would agree with me, but I know most would not 'just because' you've been around for so long and seem like a real JoS member. That's fine with me. They can have they're own opinions but so can I.
So 1) I am not intelligent, 2) you doubt I am intelligent, 3) you have an opinion I am not intelligent. OK, so... can you answer my on-topic questions in the OP? Thanks, or no thanks?

I shouldn't be talking about others on the forums like this and I usually keep far away from starting or participating in any drama or arguments with people here, but I will call people out on bullshit if I constantly see it happening.
Constantly? I post bullshit every day, despite not posting every day? Can you be on-topic, or not?


It's amazing that the "Ask Satan" operator, any JGs, or HPHC - i.e. higher-trusted members/staff of the forum - don't reply, and I get insults and attacks by others. Me seeking attention or not is irrelevant. I had an idea a few years ago, and it was ignored; another had the same idea more recently and it was not ignored. Why? Thanks for exaggerating instead of explaining. If you want to say that I am upset about that, that I want to destroy it, that I want people's personal email addresses... then you need to read my questions instead of choosing what you think I am saying, what you want me to say.

With newbs coming here and seeing this shit, is it any wonder any of them leave; or a lot of lurkers don't join in the first place? The newbs tend to get hounded and accused and bullied. It's like in that episode of the Simpsons where Bart is asking the christian teacher questions and she gets more and more agitated; I have noticed that here a lot among a lot of members. If what we say is true, then playing Devil's Advocate is not only an idea; it is demanded. If we can be held up to scrutiny and if we can be accountable to the truth, then we shouldn't be drama queens when challenges are issued or questions are asked. "Is Satan really White?" "Why was my idea ignored but this current same one not?" Both are questions which should be answered, instead of drama and shit ensuing. "I disagree with something about the jew, that is is lazy, which was claimed on JoS; these are my own observations so I disagree". Instead of being mature and civil, drama shit happens - and this is the forum we want to bring to 1 billion people in 10 years? If you don't want drama, then don't do it or get involved in it; if you do, then you will continue to.

Instead of being capable of answering the questions I asked, you decide to be big and hard online because you can get away with it. You must have a rush of happy hormones flooding in your brain because of that. I, on the other hand, was asking questions so I could know the answers. If I am insecure or need validation from strangers on the Internet, then you think you need to go off-topic and create irrelevant drama shit. When your young Child/ren ask questions, do you go off on one being dramatic, or do you answer them truthfully and respectfully - despite if they throw tantrums every day? Why is it different both online in general and online on here, which we will show 1 billion people in 10 years, specifically? Thanks for nothing, other than this - at the very beginning of the OP I said to not get upset; thanks for proving me right. Now continue with the irrelevant drama shit instead of answering the questions. Thanks. By the way - no, I am not going to leave. Sorry to disappoint you.

Apparently, no-one is "allowed" to be proud in this place; everything that is posted that goes against what some might call doctrine is classed as shit-posting, drama, trolling, attention-seeking, etc. There is a long way to go before this forum looks decent for 1 billion people in less-than 10 years' time. I could have emailed HPHC or a JG and asked this privately, and I would have received a polite and mature answer. Instead... this. Great work.

To those who were respectful and thought with their Brains instead of with their emotions - thanks. I appreciate your input.

Can someone with actual knowledge give me an on-topic answer to my OP, please, even if you are scrambling to come up with a defensive reason instead of holding your hands up and saying, "Oh, shit. We forgot about that", or "We saw it and stole it and didn't credit you for your idea", or "Well, you're not trusted because...", etc.? Thanks in advance.
 
Where did I put.my emotions into this? Im not someone who participate into the Ask-Satan project.

You dont want anyone to answer with knowledge to this, you are only seeking for someone who will say "poor you".

Have a nice day
 
Betelgeuse said:
FancyMancy said:
Let's hear (read) it.

How you haven't been banned from these forums all these years is a miracle.

You're just here for attention and I highly doubt you're even an SS to begin with, even though you sometimes make normal SS posts.
Maybe everyone else will want to throw fire at me for saying this to you, but I see through your bullshit. You have the mentality of the average internet/forums troll, and you constantly and subtly make troll posts on the forums while trying to bring attention to yourself and seem like an intelligent and respectable member when in reality you're not and I doubt that you are as well.

Many people here that are more perceptive and notice these things would agree with me, but I know most would not 'just because' you've been around for so long and seem like a real JoS member. That's fine with me. They can have they're own opinions but so can I. I shouldn't be talking about others on the forums like this and I usually keep far away from starting or participating in any drama or arguments with people here, but I will call people out on bullshit if I constantly see it happening.

Why would he get banned?

If he is a dedicated Satanist or not. It doesn't matter at least he is an, A.P.P.(Axis Power Partner). At least he flows with Amalekian technologies and is Axis and NS/SS.

Whether dedicated or not. Some people want to be dedicated NS/SS just for the sake of it. Like I asked my friend over email. Are WE NPCs of our own world-view?

And his reply is we might very well be NPCs. Me because I'm dedicated for the sake of dedicated February 2004 you gave me the black candle and I dedicated. And you because you do meditations and it never works out. Whether it's fake or real whether JoS is a real organization or fake organization or controlled opposition or simply just a bunch of arm chair militarists, arm chair spiritualists, arm chair axis from the bygone era. We might very well be NPCs of our organization.

FancyMancy is just an a person who loves Axis technology, NS technology, SS technology. And wishes to become better. If this is some xtian the devil's sweet words lie to you. It's better to believe in this lie than believe in jesus coming down and making you suck his cock for every little thing.

It's like the Yao Ming meme. The women gives birth and she goes "Thank God" and Yao Ming doctors go "Yeah right bitch thank me bitch".

Fancy is just sick and tired of the lies and degeneration and the collapse of society from judeo-bolshevism it's much like Salty Crackers despite people saying he is controlled opposition or slaty jew or salty matzo. He was a lefty of the judeo-bolsheviks. And now he is right wing when in reality if he were in a Axis/NS society he'd be considered Conservative of the Pagan/Satanic/Nazi religion with liberalism to fight against the lefties and righty of the enemy. In other words we are Triple-A(Against All Authority), we are both left and right we are both conservative and leftists i.e. revolutionaries, reactionaries, and proactivnaries. And we use both sides against both sides of the enemy. We strike through in schwerepunket down the middle kesselschlacten the right and the left and beat them down from X/Y/Zed in 360 degrees as within as without and as below and as above to dominate against the cuckservatives mostly republicucks and christ cucks who love a hard life and don't understand socialism from German Satanic Nazi socialism. And fight the liberal enemy hostile communist dupes both are dupes and capitalism is communist dupism of sacrosanct big loan capital. But the communists are more dupes.

Think B'Nai/Beijing O'Biden and his cucking towards china let us cuckinstein berg and stein cuck towards communism.

FancyMancy is simply a brain with skin. I would wager Fancy should incorporate more right brain emotional attributes like his message he states use logic instead of emotion. Emotion is logic, use logic and emotion both at the same time.

Like my astro chart states my Mercurial property throws a curve ball from right field and people go WTF is going on.

Sometimes emotion is more logical than that. FancyMancy just wants to be an NS/SS personnel and probably has things like for example someone says do XYZ meditaiton. That is nice but your just a human suggesting something you don't know.

Or for example a Yogi going I do these asana. What if there is a being of higher power that goes you can hatha yoga for 40 minutes and perform 15 minute savasana with these asanas do it for 3 years straight program the yogic energy to clean/purify your nadis or to ground you and center you and then after those three years I'll talk to you as you the asanas need a change.

These asanas are specific for you and not for anyone else in general they are okay and can be good but these are specific to you.

I don't want to sound like Depeche mode or Marilyn Manson personal jesus song. But personal NS/SS Soldier, Hellghast, or Wolfenstein Spiritual Death Squad or a personal entity teaching.

I believe it was either HP.Cobra or someone replying to HP.Cobra and they said JoS is highly experimental we experiment and test and do scientific principles some people do a meditation and shit hits the fan some do something or maybe nothing happens.

If Fancymancy wishes to be dedicated NS/SS/Axis and simply be a personnel of ours then so be it. He's just a humble National Socialist like George Lincoln Rockwell states.

Maybe Fancy did meditations and it didn't work out. Or he doesn't like it or he needs the Gods to mass pump this.

It's sorta like me. Why do stuff when no one does it. No one does yoga, no one talks NS, no one does power meditation, no one meditates, no one does anything we do except maybe 3% of the population of the World.

In India the stuff we talk about is completely missing from the population. It's like the old kung fu joke that Chinenesium and other Asianesium people use martial arts technologies. Maybe like 79% probably know jack shit, they probably don't even know how to throw a fist or maybe grab a gun or a weapon and stomp your ass with it.

Sheer fact is I don't know why people bother attacking FancyMancy. He's funny I'm not the biggest fan of British people due to their arrogant hateful behvior towards many others. But at least FancyMancy is a regular Mighty Boosh. Boosh, Boosh, Boosh, Mighter than a Boosh.

Fancy is just triple A just be glad he seeks the truth and eats and drinks from the same fountain and tree of knowledge.

Why are you harping on your own NS/SS personnel?
 
FancyMancy said:
why don't you work your way up to the top and ban me?

Careful now.

The planets are aligning quite nicely for me and my future here. Also have a Crowned Prince willing to teach and guide me now, as well as my GD. Not joking around.


Its late in the evening here and currently time for me to do my daily reps for a 40 day working, over half way done with it so far, so I'm not wasting my time writing some long winded post and giving you the attention that you're starving for. Just felt like calling out a few things about you here. Clench your fists, stomp around like a child and get over it and put it in the past. If you were legit then you would have left a simple reply to my own instead of quoting every little statement inside of my reply and adding your own questions to them for me to answer. Your actions and reactions to others here on the forums already answer most of them for me. Must have really pinched a nerve there.
 
FancyMancy said:
Before I ask my questions, let me say - don't be upset. I am not being a dick or anything; if you choose to be upset by my questions, then you need to grow up.

  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.
  • I suppose my idea that I had for this - if it is the same, which I think it is - was a bad idea. Is FancyMancy shit, or did someone steal his idea and not credit him?

Let's hear (read) it.

Thanks.

I had the same question as to why it’s name is „ask Satan“. I came to the conclusion, that you can fully open up to Father Satan, you can literally approach him with any flaws, errors, wrongs, with anything. He will not judge you like people, and will still guide you according to his will, your merits, your individual standpoint and so on.

Since this tool anonymize the OP, this is kinda relatable. People are able to ask for help with any issue at hand, just as people can approach Father Satan with any issue.

This is the conclusion I drew myself. Maybe it is right, maybe it is wrong. Good enough for me to justify this name.
 
FancyMancy said:
Before I ask my questions, let me say - don't be upset. I am not being a dick or anything; if you choose to be upset by my questions, then you need to grow up.

  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.
  • I suppose my idea that I had for this - if it is the same, which I think it is - was a bad idea. Is FancyMancy shit, or did someone steal his idea and not credit him?

Let's hear (read) it.

Thanks.

Your idea was not stolen in the sense of it being purposely taken without consent. I take credit for the initial idea surrounding Ask Satan, and yes it started similar to your idea. Unfortunately I was not on JoS at the time and was not aware of what you had originally devised. Through rapid communication with other members, the final product was devised in a matter of days.

What likely happened is that your idea was lost in communication or time, not by the merit of the idea itself. If there were any concerns from others, they were not stated, and unfortunately your spark of inspiration failed to materialize.

From the initial idea, concerns of two-way anonymity and email spam resulting in Soaring Eagle using his coding expertise to create the current platform. This then set the stage for a new service or function of JoS, and therefore the service was given a catchy name: "Ask Satan", which could aid expansion for a larger public use.

It does clearly state on the page how the website functions, so there cannot be any claims of misdirection or anything of that nature. This is no different than a commonly known service like "Door Dash" which does not literally do this.
 
FancyMancy said:
It's amazing that the "Ask Satan" operator, any JGs, or HPHC - i.e. higher-trusted members/staff of the forum - don't reply, and I get insults and attacks by others. Me seeking attention or not is irrelevant. I had an idea a few years ago, and it was ignored; another had the same idea more recently and it was not ignored. Why? Thanks for exaggerating instead of explaining. If you want to say that I am upset about that, that I want to destroy it, that I want people's personal email addresses... then you need to read my questions instead of choosing what you think I am saying, what you want me to say.
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Apparently, no-one is "allowed" to be proud in this place; everything that is posted that goes against what some might call doctrine is classed as shit-posting, drama, trolling, attention-seeking, etc. There is a long way to go before this forum looks decent for 1 billion people in less-than 10 years' time. I could have emailed HPHC or a JG and asked this privately, and I would have received a polite and mature answer. Instead... this. Great work.
Your idea was ignored because emails are inconvenient to use, and not so anonymous even with throw-away addresses.

It was a decent idea, but went nowhere, and was forgotten. At the time, nobody thought of writing a website to make it really work.

Nobody involved in Ask-Satan even remembered your idea. 4 years is a long time. It was honestly a new idea for a website for submitting anonymous questions.

One could also argue that we stole the idea from the enemy forum "AnonPoster". The fact is, anonymous posting is nothing new or special. It's how it's done that matters, and that part is totally different here than with your idea.
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Regarding the name "Ask Satan", it's obviously for the sake of being catchy. It says right on the site that questions will be posted on the forums for people to answer. However, when clergy answers, we are representing Satan, so in a sense Satan is "answering" some questions, although not literally, as the website clearly says.
 
Betelgeuse said:
If you were legit then you would have left a simple reply to my own instead of quoting every little statement inside of my reply and adding your own questions to them for me to answer.

I don't think that's a useful way of judging someone's legitimacy. Everyone has a different way of communicating. Communication, I've found, is surprisingly unique and individual. It's always a bit different from person to person. I actually find it fascinating to notice all the little bits of nuance in someone's unique way of speaking and communicating. It's like their own unique fingerprint. Everyone has a style.
 
Betelgeuse said:
FancyMancy said:
why don't you work your way up to the top and ban me?

Careful now.

The planets are aligning quite nicely for me and my future here. Also have a Crowned Prince willing to teach and guide me now, as well as my GD. Not joking around.


Its late in the evening here and currently time for me to do my daily reps for a 40 day working, over half way done with it so far, so I'm not wasting my time writing some long winded post and giving you the attention that you're starving for. Just felt like calling out a few things about you here. Clench your fists, stomp around like a child and get over it and put it in the past. If you were legit then you would have left a simple reply to my own instead of quoting every little statement inside of my reply and adding your own questions to them for me to answer. Your actions and reactions to others here on the forums already answer most of them for me. Must have really pinched a nerve there.
If I was 'legit', I would reply the way I reply, not please you. As for stamping and stomping - can you reply on-topic, or can't you?

NinRick said:
I had the same question as to why it’s name is „ask Satan“. I came to the conclusion, that you can fully open up to Father Satan, you can literally approach him with any flaws, errors, wrongs, with anything. He will not judge you like people, and will still guide you according to his will, your merits, your individual standpoint and so on.
"Beware - I'm going to be this big, amazing person; I got all these d00ds helpin' me, bwoi. Oh, and you're a dick for not replying the way I want you to reply." Yeah. If Crowned Princes are helping, then they know that people must be themselves, and not please them in replying how they want them to reply. If they see my replies, they know that I reply in that way already - but that's wrong and when it's pointed out to me it's offensive for me!!!! :roll:

Since this tool anonymize the OP, this is kinda relatable. People are able to ask for help with any issue at hand, just as people can approach Father Satan with any issue.

This is the conclusion I drew myself. Maybe it is right, maybe it is wrong. Good enough for me to justify this name.
Thanks.


Blitzkreig [JG said:
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FancyMancy said:
Before I ask my questions, let me say - don't be upset. I am not being a dick or anything; if you choose to be upset by my questions, then you need to grow up.

  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.
  • I suppose my idea that I had for this - if it is the same, which I think it is - was a bad idea. Is FancyMancy shit, or did someone steal his idea and not credit him?

Let's hear (read) it.

Thanks.

Your idea was not stolen in the sense of it being purposely taken without consent. I take credit for the initial idea surrounding Ask Satan, and yes it started similar to your idea. Unfortunately I was not on JoS at the time and was not aware of what you had originally devised. Through rapid communication with other members, the final product was devised in a matter of days.

What likely happened is that your idea was lost in communication or time, not by the merit of the idea itself. If there were any concerns from others, they were not stated, and unfortunately your spark of inspiration failed to materialize.

From the initial idea, concerns of two-way anonymity and email spam resulting in Soaring Eagle using his coding expertise to create the current platform. This then set the stage for a new service or function of JoS, and therefore the service was given a catchy name: "Ask Satan", which could aid expansion for a larger public use.

It does clearly state on the page how the website functions, so there cannot be any claims of misdirection or anything of that nature. This is no different than a commonly known service like "Door Dash" which does not literally do this.
Thanks for an actual answer.

Soaring Eagle 666 [JG said:
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FancyMancy said:
It's amazing that the "Ask Satan" operator, any JGs, or HPHC - i.e. higher-trusted members/staff of the forum - don't reply, and I get insults and attacks by others. Me seeking attention or not is irrelevant. I had an idea a few years ago, and it was ignored; another had the same idea more recently and it was not ignored. Why? Thanks for exaggerating instead of explaining. If you want to say that I am upset about that, that I want to destroy it, that I want people's personal email addresses... then you need to read my questions instead of choosing what you think I am saying, what you want me to say.
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Apparently, no-one is "allowed" to be proud in this place; everything that is posted that goes against what some might call doctrine is classed as shit-posting, drama, trolling, attention-seeking, etc. There is a long way to go before this forum looks decent for 1 billion people in less-than 10 years' time. I could have emailed HPHC or a JG and asked this privately, and I would have received a polite and mature answer. Instead... this. Great work.
Your idea was ignored because emails are inconvenient to use, and not so anonymous even with throw-away addresses.

It was a decent idea, but went nowhere, and was forgotten. At the time, nobody thought of writing a website to make it really work.

Nobody involved in Ask-Satan even remembered your idea. 4 years is a long time. It was honestly a new idea for a website for submitting anonymous questions.
Thanks. I can't say this for certain, but before we had the prophpbb forums, it was me who said that we should go away from the crappy, bad Yahoo! Groups, and instead use forums. I can't be certain, but as far as I know, as far as I can tell, it was me who said that, then after that the prophpbb forums were used. I have ideas sometimes, and some of those are good. Back then with the forum, and with this anonymous posting idea, it seemed like ideas I shared were taken and driven to the destination of them coming to fruition, and FancyMancy was left out of the car standing in the rain (because I'm being emotional!!!! :roll:). I don't think there is anything wrong with getting recognition.

One could also argue that we stole the idea from the enemy forum "AnonPoster".
Oh. My. I made a separate thread from the thread honouring HPHC. I made it separately from that thread because my reply would be too off-topic. I did not mention who or what or anything, but referred to other places... and my thread was deleted without any explanation. Now here you mention very directly and specifically "AnonPoster"... and your reply won't be deleted. The thread I made did not break any rules; it might seem like I was, for example, promoting another place or a place which is against us or pro-the-enemy or whatever, but that is definitely not what I was doing... yet it was deleted with no explanation. I know I won't get an actual answer as to why. I don't know what happens when posts/threads are deleted - if they are gone from the forum, or if they are kept in a moderator room in the staff areas. Anyone who has access can see if the thread I made after the thread honouring HPHC still exists. I can't remember what I said in that post, but I was saying something like similar to the shit thread where I mentioned about visiting elsewhere that I also visit Bitchute and Youtube, that doesn't mean I'm a traitor, I still went anyway; I can think for myself; and I was also adding that HPHC has his head screwed on properly... Sorry for not honouring HPHC "correctly". I have no idea why it was deleted. My point is you saying "AnonPoster" should have your entire reply deleted, but it won't be; whereas my post was where I didn't specify anything and was trying to add my own honour to HPHC... and it was deleted.

Yes, yes, yes, I'm "being emotional". Alternatively, I am a person who likes or needs to know things. I am a person who does things my own way. It's a simple thing, and a simple reply would work.

The fact is, anonymous posting is nothing new or special. It's how it's done that matters, and that part is totally different here than with your idea.
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Regarding the name "Ask Satan", it's obviously for the sake of being catchy. It says right on the site that questions will be posted on the forums for people to answer. However, when clergy answers, we are representing Satan, so in a sense Satan is "answering" some questions, although not literally, as the website clearly says.
Thanks for your actual reply, also.

If actual answers were given, instead of not, then this extra retarded shit wouldn't exist. This (not just this thread but the forum as a whole) could show maturity and civility on the forum, for 1 billion people to see within the next 10 years. "oH, nO! He'S bEtRaYiNg Us AgAiN." I think it would have been better to make a thread about that separately instead of in here. This thread was about 2 questions I asked in the OP. It was going to be 3 questions, but the 3rd was that I was mistaken with it.
 
FancyMancy said:
If actual answers were given, instead of not, then this extra retarded shit wouldn't exist. This (not just this thread but the forum as a whole) could show maturity and civility on the forum, for 1 billion people to see within the next 10 years. "oH, nO! He'S bEtRaYiNg Us AgAiN." I think it would have been better to make a thread about that separately instead of in here. This thread was about 2 questions I asked in the OP. It was going to be 3 questions, but the 3rd was that I was mistaken with it.

A message by email would have avoided all this "shit" as you put it so well. It's not mature to make a post on a subject that you have so sensitive.

Looking at the original post of your idea, we see that the idea lacked refinement. I don't think bypassing the clergy on such an important project was a good idea either.

My professional experience brings me this way of thinking. In an organization, ideas must first present to the people who make the decisions. Rarely ideas pushed without the consent of the leaders are appreciated and are taken into consideration.

I'm sorry if I may have been "immature" or uncivilized in my answers. I thought the topic was not properly addressed. There is an expression in French "Laver son linge en public" which means to settle accounts with a person in public that should have been settle in private.
 
Masterj810610 said:
FancyMancy said:
If actual answers were given, instead of not, then this extra retarded shit wouldn't exist. This (not just this thread but the forum as a whole) could show maturity and civility on the forum, for 1 billion people to see within the next 10 years. "oH, nO! He'S bEtRaYiNg Us AgAiN." I think it would have been better to make a thread about that separately instead of in here. This thread was about 2 questions I asked in the OP. It was going to be 3 questions, but the 3rd was that I was mistaken with it.

A message by email would have avoided all this "shit" as you put it so well. It's not mature to make a post on a subject that you have so sensitive.
What else did I put in the email? I was added to an email thread without my permission. I was also added to it without my permission despite me saying no, and because (as I was told) a higher-up suggested inviting me (even though another higher-up said I was wrong in something I did when I was not wrong). I presume that's why I was added - without my permission and despite me saying no.

Looking at the original post of your idea, we see that the idea lacked refinement. I don't think bypassing the clergy on such an important project was a good idea either.
The idea lacked refinement? The JoS websites need sprucing up - and have been needing that for a long time. I posted the idea on the forum, and it was before the Internet Battalion section existed. I can do only what I can do with the tools I am given.

My professional experience brings me this way of thinking. In an organization, ideas must first present to the people who make the decisions. Rarely ideas pushed without the consent of the leaders are appreciated and are taken into consideration.
I don't think any email address, for HPHC, for example, existed back then. The most-direct way to share the idea... was to post it on the forum for all to see. Taking the initiative - making the email account and other forum account - might have sped up the process.

I'm sorry if I may have been "immature" or uncivilized in my answers. I thought the topic was not properly addressed. There is an expression in French "Laver son linge en public" which means to settle accounts with a person in public that should have been settle in private.
So again - "Who said I want to destroy it?". Thanks. I'd might as well call that a rhetorical question by now.


Thanks to anyone for a sort-of answer, mixed in with all of this stupid shit - and yes, I am saying that directly. 1 billion people in about 10 years, if this forum still exists, or if it, by that time, is archived honestly and genuinely... seeing all of this.
 
Fuchs said:
FancyMancy said:
Before I ask my questions, let me say - don't be upset. I am not being a dick or anything; if you choose to be upset by my questions, then you need to grow up.

  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.
  • I suppose my idea that I had for this - if it is the same, which I think it is - was a bad idea. Is FancyMancy shit, or did someone steal his idea and not credit him?

Let's hear (read) it.

Thanks.

A1. Everone here is guided by Satan, so it is not too far to name it Ask Satan.

A2. You don´t need a email to use Ask Satan. We should be grateful that it was developed.

The only negative I see in it, is that if you want to reply in annonymous way to your own question you have to make another topic and link the old and new one by telling people.

Seker said:
FancyMancy said:
  • Why is it named "Ask Satan"? When anyone asks a question, they're asking the members here. Satan doesn't reply.


  • It's a fancy-mancy (pun intended) way of saying "Ask questions about Satan(ism)". Don't take it too literally. Unless you're autistic and can't help but take things literally.


  • Thanks to both of you for your input.
 
FancyMancy said:
One could also argue that we stole the idea from the enemy forum "AnonPoster". The fact is, anonymous posting is nothing new or special. It's how it's done that matters, and that part is totally different here than with your idea.
Oh. My. I made a separate thread from the thread honouring HPHC. I made it separately from that thread because my reply would be too off-topic. I did not mention who or what or anything, but referred to other places... and my thread was deleted without any explanation. Now here you mention very directly and specifically "AnonPoster"... and your reply won't be deleted. The thread I made did not break any rules; it might seem like I was, for example, promoting another place or a place which is against us or pro-the-enemy or whatever, but that is definitely not what I was doing... yet it was deleted with no explanation. I know I won't get an actual answer as to why. I don't know what happens when posts/threads are deleted - if they are gone from the forum, or if they are kept in a moderator room in the staff areas. Anyone who has access can see if the thread I made after the thread honouring HPHC still exists. I can't remember what I said in that post, but I was saying something like similar to the shit thread where I mentioned about visiting elsewhere that I also visit Bitchute and Youtube, that doesn't mean I'm a traitor, I still went anyway; I can think for myself; and I was also adding that HPHC has his head screwed on properly... Sorry for not honouring HPHC "correctly". I have no idea why it was deleted. My point is you saying "AnonPoster" should have your entire reply deleted, but it won't be; whereas my post was where I didn't specify anything and was trying to add my own honour to HPHC... and it was deleted.
Your other thread was probably deleted because of all the nonsense about HP Cobra "apologizing" there. Even if your intention was to honor HP Cobra, it was written so nonsensically that people might think the opposite, that you believe HP Cobra actually did waste time there. It was almost certainly not deleted just because you referenced the enemy forum indirectly.
 
Ideas are fuck all without work and sticking your neck on the line. It is all about your means, the timing and everyones initiative whos involved.

If you cared so much you could've devoted massive energy to materialising this at an earlier point. But you are naturally self interested more than willing to commit to that, I am also to some degree and personally am wanting to change from this. This website and the good people here tower above me, and you.

Ultimately it was Satan's intention for this and for it to have been done right not half stuck in dreamy idealism and then the jews can come and curse people through the cracks. I agree with it being done like that, so anything else is irrelevant
 
I want to try and put as much into this post so as to let others - if any - reply and have their say, hopefully with me not replying back, and to try and get it over and done with. I'm being honest and direct - take that as an attack, or take it as me saying my things my way. Be diplomatic, or don't be. For betterment - don't presume. Ask questions and seek clarity, instead. I've been called autistic because I have taken things too literally; what's the opposite for those who try to read between the lines and fill in the blanks, choosing what the other person is saying which they didn't say, as if they - those who do this - are an authourity, being high and mighty and know-it-alls? This, the opposite thing, is what has been happening here a lot. Maybe I am entirely wrong with this; maybe I am entirely right with this; maybe I am somewhere in the middle with this.

This is going very-much off-topic (then again, I started the thread, so...), but because things have been said, I think they need to be addressed.

What makes a "normal" Spiritual Satanist? That you have to do this, do that and do it like this in that time? To me that sounds like cliqué-y, cult-like, religious. I've been saying that since before I knew about "an enemy place", which I don't think I ever mentioned, just merely referring to it indirectly and without name. I can't copy off others. I do things my way. "We are all individuals", "what works for one might not work for another", "we need to practice and learn what works the best for us as individuals" - so a "normal" Spiritual Satanist?

Regarding me being banned - (rhetorical question) why was I added to the email thread and suggested by a higher-up? (I didn't say "No! F Off! I don't want to be a part of it!", yet they still added me; rather, I explained things and decided (even though I didn't say is explicitly) that it wouldn't be a good idea; i.e. I made excuses, before I was added to the thread.) If I'm a troll and should be banned, then why would a higher-up recommend me? I speak honestly - granted, I could be more diplomatic (I am considering doing a Mercury Square), but so could most people here, but why would I be suggested by a higher-up if I should be banned? I can remember being asked before what have I done here, and apparently we judge people by their actions, so... should I be banned? What's a "normal" Spiritual Satanist?

Recently to a poster, I said "you're saying..." - I could and should have said it more like "It sounds like you're saying...". I think most people realise this about themselves - in my head to me it is fine what I am saying. I think a lot of people agree, for themselves. A big problem is that tonation is not heard, voice is not heard, emotion is not heard/felt, body language is not seen, countenance is not seen... It's only words and that is not enough, even with emoticons. In hindsight, what I said to the newb seemed more abrupt and abrasive, and I could have done better.

Regarding my constitution, experiences, the Elements which make-up my Soul and their amounts, etc. - there are many people with many different configurations. If I should be banned, then so should 99% of the Planet - which equals much more than 1 billion people being reached in 10 years. The only thing that should be a part of the cancel culture is the jew, no?

Soaring Eagle 666 [JG said:
" post_id=422927 time=1675845534 user_id=346]it was written so nonsensically that people might think the opposite
It's rather difficult mentioning something without mentioning something, advertising somewhere else. I was more subtle and indirect about it. That makes it nonsensical. If I mentioned it directly and linked to it, then that would have been breaking the rules. I chose to not be specific while still referring to it.

that you believe HP Cobra actually did waste time there
I never once said that I believed that. Did I not say things like "supposedly"? That does not mean "I think this is true". I also did say that someone else was pretending to be HPHC and apologising, and admitted so. If you are going to say anything about what I said, then say it correctly. I got sick and tired of christians trying to be authourity on everything about me, telling me who I am, what I am, what I mean, etc., and I get sick and tired of it when debating christians to this day, as well. On here, it's not just me; others on here have had the same happen with them, as well. Don't presume to tell me what I am saying, etc.; instead, ask questions and seek clarity - unless you want drama to ensue. Wise, intelligent people ask questions; retards shout their mouths off ignorantly. We can all be keyboard warriors. We need to be diplomats, instead (as cheesy as that might sound). I left that anti-life institution. I don't need the same shit here. This is not me being disrespectful to a JG; this is me being honest and direct, and correcting things that were said. I am also saying it to everyone, not just the one I am replying to.

Hilarious - this post was made recently, and while I was typing some of this (over a few days, before submitting this post), it was at the top of the threads - "Kali Yuga & AI: Be Prepared For Fake Recordings, Fake "Statements" etc - About JoS and Future [Updated 8 February]". Hilarious. If you're going to say anything about me, make sure it is not fake. If it is possible, the post of mine that was deleted should either be restored or a screenshot of it should be made and shared, to show what I said; however, me being the doubtful, sceptical, cynical, suspicious, disbelieving person I apparently am becoming more and more of, it might be altered to make me look worse - and it just won't be restored/screenshotted and shared in a post here anyway. I made a thread, "Rabbis Bring Jesus Home for Christmas". Now either 1) I made a mistake, that I thought I submitted the post but I didn't and I thought it was deleted, so I must have previewed it without submitting it, so I had to do it again, or 2) I did submit the post and it was deleted, so I made the post again. With that in mind, and the previous drama rubbish, it is still in my mind as to how I perceive things here, how they've been going. Currently, it's a long way to be proper, mature, civil, elite for 1 billion people in less-than 10 years.

It was not just "the enemy forum". That was not the only thing; there was another site where the so-called apology was mentioned. I was speaking (typing) generally and not trying to break any rules by what I was typing, about something having allegedly happened. It's not easy to mention something without being specific, and I wasn't specific and I didn't say anything about believing it; checking the other place, you'd see where I was doubting it... not believing it, yet my thread here was still deleted; what you said in yours was specific and won't be deleted. I am quite certain that I didn't break the rules. "The enemy forum", or whatever it is, is just nothing anyway.


By the way, in case anyone claims that I'm "still attention-seeking" - I could have replied sooner. I waited to reply - on purpose. I'm trying to show an air of calm, while being direct in my posts in this thread. Don't presume; instead, seek clarity and know.


13th_Wolf said:
Ideas are fuck all without work and sticking your neck on the line. It is all about your means, the timing and everyones initiative whos involved.

If you cared so much you could've devoted massive energy to materialising this at an earlier point. But you are naturally self interested more than willing to commit to that,
Well, as I understood it before, Spiritual Satanism is for the self; National Socialism is for the community and civilisation.

I am also to some degree and personally am wanting to change from this. This website and the good people here tower above me, and you.
I have said before that I am/have been one of the slowest to advance and improve and get better. Instead of being presumptuous like christians are, thinking they're authourities on everything, users here should ask questions and seek clarity and understanding and be diplomatic. "We all go at our own speed" - but apparently, that's not what "normal" Spiritual Satanists do. In hindsight - which I know everyone pretends to hate! - I definitely could have been moving quicker than what I have.

Ultimately it was Satan's intention for this and for it to have been done right not half stuck in dreamy idealism and then the jews can come and curse people through the cracks.
1) Maybe I was onto something a few years ago, then. A number of times (not many, I admit) I thought something, and someone else mentioned it/a sermon was made about it or including it, and I put that down to mere coincidence that I considered it already; and 2) -

Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=422863 time=1675813671 user_id=21286]
Your idea was not stolen in the sense of it being purposely taken without consent. I take credit for the initial idea surrounding Ask Satan, and yes it started similar to your idea. Unfortunately I was not on JoS at the time and was not aware of what you had originally devised. Through rapid communication with other members, the final product was devised in a matter of days.
No offence, but that sounds more like someone on the forum's idea, rather than Satan wanting it to happen. On the other hand - as JoS advances, anything and everything that actually makes the World a better place can be put down to Satan wanting it to happen... yet I can remember a post by (I think) HPS Maxine or HPHC saying that Satan was surprised that we got this far (I am paraphrasing). Not every single individual bit and thing comes from divine injection into our Minds. Sometimes, Humans have good ideas and do things.

I agree with it being done like that, so anything else is irrelevant
Of course you agree with it being done this way. It is so religious. Everything the higher-ups do is perfect and always right (despite those posts/roles/titles not being held with impunity and tenure; i.e. they can be revoked).

Personally, I think it is good - and not just good, but also important - to scrutinise and play Devil's Advocate and attempt to hold things, claims, etc., to account. Yes, it is uncomfortable, but that's probably because people are not used to it. Naturally, not being an authourity on everything, I can just push it only so far, but it is extremely important. If me doing this - when I feel it necessary to do so - means I should be banned, then maybe I should share a small stipend every Sunday to appease those wielding the ban hammer - or those who might in the future. :roll: I also do say "the proof is in the pudding". A lot of people demand proof; if having a regular, long-time member (me) here who can sort of play that role on their behalf, while I also attempt to encourage them to try the things themselves, then I can't see a problem with doing that. Anyone - let me know why you have problems with it, and what those problems are.

One problem is those who don't like to be scrutinised, instead of accepting it as a vital part of the Scientific process - which includes direct and deliberate, or indirect and accidental/unintentional (in my case), peer-reviewing, as I have noticed regarding my own results in the past. Since these peer-reviews were entirely unexpected and unintentional, since those who had similar results to what I had did have similar results to what I had, that helps to solidify and confirm it. For those who are starting at a different place than I and those others, they might accept some internal scrutiny/criticism/questioning from time to time - even if it is unofficial/unsanctioned. As a former christian, I feel that I must, instead of just accepting things blindly. I know I have had results; others have had results similar to mine; and others have had yet other results. I say it's all a part of the process.

I genuinely cannot see a problem with that. I think it is very, very important.
 
FancyMancy said:
What makes a "normal" Spiritual Satanist? That you have to do this, do that and do it like this in that time? To me that sounds like cliqué-y, cult-like, religious. I've been saying that since before I knew about "an enemy place", which I don't think I ever mentioned, just merely referring to it indirectly and without name. I can't copy off others. I do things my way. "We are all individuals", "what works for one might not work for another", "we need to practice and learn what works the best for us as individuals" - so a "normal" Spiritual Satanist?
A person who practices the 8-fold path. Since we are talking about Spiritual Satanism, Gods are closely related in this equation in some form.
 
Betelgeuse said:
FancyMancy said:
Let's hear (read) it.

How you haven't been banned from these forums all these years is a miracle.

You're just here for attention and I highly doubt you're even an SS to begin with, even though you sometimes make normal SS posts.
Maybe everyone else will want to throw fire at me for saying this to you, but I see through your bullshit. You have the mentality of the average internet/forums troll, and you constantly and subtly make troll posts on the forums while trying to bring attention to yourself and seem like an intelligent and respectable member when in reality you're not and I doubt that you are as well.

Many people here that are more perceptive and notice these things would agree with me, but I know most would not 'just because' you've been around for so long and seem like a real JoS member. That's fine with me. They can have they're own opinions but so can I. I shouldn't be talking about others on the forums like this and I usually keep far away from starting or participating in any drama or arguments with people here, but I will call people out on bullshit if I constantly see it happening.
You don't really have to attack him this much. I don't give two shits about what kind of drama happens here on this forums but your reply is just a personal attack. If you don't like him don't reply.

He is asking questions that are bothering him. You don't get to decide you want to ban someone just as a reaction to this.

I don't care about OP or you, either. But you're attitude is uncalled for. I am not attacking you either but I hate seeing this type of attitude on the forums over and over. Just picking some member and witch-hunting the fuck out of them.

I like Blitz's approach to this stuff although he can be too kind to even worthless people obvious trolls he answers professionally because he knows other newer members learn from him. You all need to learn a thing or two from him.

The fact that our clergy decided not to ban a member simply means he shouldn't be banned. Even if he is annoying to you or you personally dislike him. They are not blind.
 
FancyMancy said:

The short answer to your question is that operation within a meritocratic hierarchy is a part of life. Tradition is to be balanced with scrutiny and individuality, as all things are to be balanced. Hierarchy also demands a degree of swiftness that does not always allow immediate scrutiny to take place.

Not all proof is therefore immediately evident or present in the desired manner/timeframe. This is especially true for matters which pertain to the astral and cannot be readily measured.

That does not mean that no proof can be found, but that it takes time. For example, one's perception of HPHC should be developed through a variety of interactions with him, as well as study of his work. How else do you intend to scrutinize or his abilities? Which metrics are there to test his abilities?

Yet, trolls exploit these obstacles on purpose, intentionally draining our patience. Then someone with genuine questions, like yourself, finds themself dealing with an already frustrated group of people.
 
Betelgeuse said:
FancyMancy said:
why don't you work your way up to the top and ban me?

Careful now.

The planets are aligning quite nicely for me and my future here. Also have a Crowned Prince willing to teach and guide me now, as well as my GD. Not joking around.
Now this is just childish. No one with any actual wisdom or maturity talks like this.
 
mercury_wisdom said:
Betelgeuse said:
FancyMancy said:
why don't you work your way up to the top and ban me?

Careful now.

The planets are aligning quite nicely for me and my future here. Also have a Crowned Prince willing to teach and guide me now, as well as my GD. Not joking around.
Now this is just childish. No one with any actual wisdom or maturity talks like this.

These replies were made while I was already pissed about other things.

It's in the past and I'm not bringing it back up to start an argument or to stress over it.
 
FancyMancy said:
By the way, in case anyone claims that I'm "still attention-seeking" - I could have replied sooner. I waited to reply - on purpose. I'm trying to show an air of calm, while being direct in my posts in this thread. Don't presume; instead, seek clarity and know.

13th_Wolf said:
Ideas are fuck all without work and sticking your neck on the line. It is all about your means, the timing and everyones initiative whos involved.

If you cared so much you could've devoted massive energy to materialising this at an earlier point. But you are naturally self interested more than willing to commit to that,
Well, as I understood it before, Spiritual Satanism is for the self; National Socialism is for the community and civilisation.

To many National Socialists who are without, National Socialism is for themselves as in self discipline. In Spiritual Satanism, a lot of groups took from the JoS and only gave one about themselves (in one sense, a right thing) and others focused overly on the enemy or perceived enemies, probably moreso wrong. The JoS for a long while but specifically it was said in the 10 year charter that the intention is to go public. Therefore there is an external element, but obviously going about this in a balanced way. This has nothing much to do with me saying you could've devoted energy to mould the thing of the JoS you wanted into being, because there is a community here with a majority of unique yet like-minded people. This place appeared like an oasis in the Sahara for me personally.

FancyMancy said:
I have said before that I am/have been one of the slowest to advance and improve and get better. Instead of being presumptuous like christians are, thinking they're authourities on everything, users here should ask questions and seek clarity and understanding and be diplomatic. "We all go at our own speed" - but apparently, that's not what "normal" Spiritual Satanists do. In hindsight - which I know everyone pretends to hate! - I definitely could have been moving quicker than what I have.

My presumptuous nature is not the same as a xian's though. I am dipomatic but there is a certain baseline of person, many people's spiritual states I am deeply opposed to, both xian and atheist in the world, and this world seeps into the forum whether I would want it to or not. I don't share so much as an impassioned person in real life because it is dangerous, but I will in this place because of what it means to me. I understand I also need to recognise that there are people who are on a lower state who can be uplifted into this great understanding of how the world truly is and that this is a good thing overall in many ways and honourable. Not compromising what we already have comes stronger to me though so its a separate concern.

FancyMancy said:
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Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=422863 time=1675813671 user_id=21286]
Your idea was not stolen in the sense of it being purposely taken without consent. I take credit for the initial idea surrounding Ask Satan, and yes it started similar to your idea. Unfortunately I was not on JoS at the time and was not aware of what you had originally devised. Through rapid communication with other members, the final product was devised in a matter of days.
No offence, but that sounds more like someone on the forum's idea, rather than Satan wanting it to happen. On the other hand - as JoS advances, anything and everything that actually makes the World a better place can be put down to Satan wanting it to happen... yet I can remember a post by (I think) HPS Maxine or HPHC saying that Satan was surprised that we got this far (I am paraphrasing). Not every single individual bit and thing comes from divine injection into our Minds. Sometimes, Humans have good ideas and do things.

People of Satan are allowed to do things for Satan, there is not a binary line between us and the Gods like that, it is more like one is within the other at all times like Yin and Yang. A child might go and do something a good choice in their life, thinking it is independent in its choices and for the most part it is, but on the level their principles have been instilled by some one-off advice that stuck in the back of their mind- they go and make the right choices when they do things in life.
The international economic market which feeds the world was not created by SS on all the administrative levels and look what it does. That is the work of principled humans giving advice across time, divined from earlier from the gods and their own good senses. This is so powerful even to avert jewish predominance in some areas. This applies to other great things like our legal systems and so forth.

FancyMancy said:
I agree with it being done like that, so anything else is irrelevant
Of course you agree with it being done this way. It is so religious. Everything the higher-ups do is perfect and always right (despite those posts/roles/titles not being held with impunity and tenure; i.e. they can be revoked).

Yes, I am religious to the Joy of Satan and I think the same thing is the reason you haven't been so motivated to advance all this time. I don't think faith is so bad for that reason, it's clearly very useful when the system is the actual right system for humanity. To be "questioning" etc. from this point is called making excuses and laziness and it does well to be honest with oneself past a certain point otherwise you can not engage in conversations about this with honour.

Of course I agree because the Gods influence is here in everything of how it is created. People here are family. As I stated above, their influence is so strong in things that do not overtly represent them, this is a place that goes beyond in that endeavour so naturally and is literally for them that I trust that the elected authorities on knowledge in this time are gradually getting better and better in their intended ways.
(the time after the final rtr in 2018 had so many signs of this forum breaking from the oldschool rut that this place used to be in that you were accustomed to)

Simply put, as I am awakened to the truth, I am religious to it. I am not questioning and scrutinising of the sky being blue. It is not "perfect" but it is an effort made under that truth and so there is nothing xian in it.


FancyMancy said:
Personally, I think it is good - and not just good, but also important - to scrutinise and play Devil's Advocate and attempt to hold things, claims, etc., to account. Yes, it is uncomfortable, but that's probably because people are not used to it. Naturally, not being an authourity on everything, I can just push it only so far, but it is extremely important. If me doing this - when I feel it necessary to do so - means I should be banned, then maybe I should share a small stipend every Sunday to appease those wielding the ban hammer - or those who might in the future. :roll: I also do say "the proof is in the pudding". A lot of people demand proof; if having a regular, long-time member (me) here who can sort of play that role on their behalf, while I also attempt to encourage them to try the things themselves, then I can't see a problem with doing that. Anyone - let me know why you have problems with it, and what those problems are.

One problem is those who don't like to be scrutinised, instead of accepting it as a vital part of the Scientific process - which includes direct and deliberate, or indirect and accidental/unintentional (in my case), peer-reviewing, as I have noticed regarding my own results in the past. Since these peer-reviews were entirely unexpected and unintentional, since those who had similar results to what I had did have similar results to what I had, that helps to solidify and confirm it. For those who are starting at a different place than I and those others, they might accept some internal scrutiny/criticism/questioning from time to time - even if it is unofficial/unsanctioned. As a former christian, I feel that I must, instead of just accepting things blindly. I know I have had results; others have had results similar to mine; and others have had yet other results. I say it's all a part of the process.

I genuinely cannot see a problem with that. I think it is very, very important.

Ultimately I am a massively sensitive person as well but I overcame the problems of this with help from here, now if someone in my family (either or) shouts me down in good meaning I don't overreact to it in my own "defense" emotionally or while claiming it is logically, because I can see it is for my own good. In this way YOU should also react with your brain and not your emotions, I do understand where you are coming from though about know-it-all bullshits. With age one should learn to take these things and others in stride, the kind of suffering everyone even the most emotional people used to endure and still this essence is what makes up our world and is a part of growing as for all individuals.

I spent many years playing Devil's advocate right, and then I didn't need to anymore because I actually was an advocate for the Devil. I am also still quite young so many years is different for me than you. You shouldn't get with the enemy programs but get with THIS program NOW, its the best time now. No more infiltrator nonsense like what I used to see. I could've gone down ruination because of those fuckheads you were "playing around" with, I was a dumb teenager. Now look.

I am allowed to be impassioned.

The fact I could be presumptuous towards you when for all I know you own a house or something :lol:
dude.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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