Spell when a Planet is in a fall/detriment sign?

[luis]

We all know that when a planet is retrograde a spell that has an affinity with that planet will not work or worse backfire. Let's say we have an emergency and need to do a healing spell right now while the Sun is in Libra, is it worth doing it? Is the planet's energy so weak that it's not worth it?

I don't think it's going to backfire but I just wonder if it's worth doing it, like putting a lot of energy towards it because it's an emergency and then restarting it at a better date in the future to make it more permanent or more powerful. There is nothing on the Jos about it, we just know it's not worth starting a square while the planet's energy are so weak and I guess even a "normal" spell.

 

[Vivek]

This will exacerbate the negative manifestation's of the sign/planet.

You'd be better off working with solar runes/mantras.

 

[Vivek]

Nevermind, I misread. I thought you were talking about the square.

What you've mentioned is largely dependent on your own power, but it's always more efficient to work with these things according to ideal astrological timing's of course, but less necessary if your soul power is strong enough.

 

[Henu the Great]

We all know that when a planet is retrograde a spell that has an affinity with that planet will not work or worse backfire. Let's say we have an emergency and need to do a healing spell right now while the Sun is in Libra, is it worth doing it? Is the planet's energy so weak that it's not worth it?

I don't think it's going to backfire but I just wonder if it's worth doing it, like putting a lot of energy towards it because it's an emergency and then restarting it at a better date in the future to make it more permanent or more powerful. There is nothing on the Jos about it, we just know it's not worth starting a square while the planet's energy are so weak and I guess even a "normal" spell.

You would be getting suboptimal results in comparison to average or optimal timing regardless of your level.

 

[luis]

You would be getting suboptimal results in comparison to average or optimal timing regardless of your level.

I understand this but in an emergency small results are better than no results. What do you think?

 

[luis]

I guess I'm going to tag @HPS Lydia and @Hp. Hoodedcobra666, is it dangerous to start a spell when a planet is in a fall/detriment sign? I'm just talking about adding energy to something when you have an emergency and then start a spell when the time is right. For example would it be bad to start a cleaning/protection spell right now? The Sun is in Libra. I just need to know since it's not wrote on Jos if it's going to backfire like when the planets are retrograde or something.

I'm asking the Hps not because I don't trust you Henu but I just need to be 100% sure if it's dangerous as in backfire or just it's way less powerful so not worth to do it.

 

[HPS Lydia]

I guess I'm going to tag @HPS Lydia and @Hp. Hoodedcobra666, is it dangerous to start a spell when a planet is in a fall/detriment sign? I'm just talking about adding energy to something when you have an emergency and then start a spell when the time is right. For example would it be bad to start a cleaning/protection spell right now? The Sun is in Libra. I just need to know since it's not wrote on Jos if it's going to backfire like when the planets are retrograde or something.

I'm asking the Hps not because I don't trust you Henu but I just need to be 100% sure if it's dangerous as in backfire or just it's way less powerful so not worth to do it.

Hello

It's not dangerous, but using Solar mantra will be weaker. You can try another mantra instead. For healing, a rune such as Thurisaz or Vynn. For protection, runes such as Bjarkan or Sowilo. Cleaning, sanskrit mantra Visuddhi.

Yes, Sowilo is a solar rune, but it isn't weakened during this time as using the actual mantra of the Sun. The runes have powers from constellations, not from the planets in our solar system. The runes do correspond to our planets, such as Neptune and Logr, but they are not from our planets.

 

[luis]

Hello

It's not dangerous, but using Solar mantra will be weaker. You can try another mantra instead. For healing, a rune such as Thurisaz or Vynn. For protection, runes such as Bjarkan or Sowilo. Cleaning, sanskrit mantra Visuddhi.

Yes, Sowilo is a solar rune, but it isn't weakened during this time as using the actual mantra of the Sun. The runes have powers from constellations, not from the planets in our solar system. The runes do correspond to our planets, such as Neptune and Logr, but they are not from our planets.

Thanks, HPS.

 

[Mint666]

I was about to start a thread but this one is close enough of a question to what I wanted to ask.

Hello

It's not dangerous, but using Solar mantra will be weaker. You can try another mantra instead. For healing, a rune such as Thurisaz or Vynn. For protection, runes such as Bjarkan or Sowilo. Cleaning, sanskrit mantra Visuddhi.

Yes, Sowilo is a solar rune, but it isn't weakened during this time as using the actual mantra of the Sun. The runes have powers from constellations, not from the planets in our solar system. The runes do correspond to our planets, such as Neptune and Logr, but they are not from our planets.

Does this apply the same for chakra empowerment as it does spellwork?
And is it any different if a planet is retrograde as opposed to being in a weak sign?

Right now while both Venus and Mercury are retrograde and if I want to empower my Heart or Throat chakra, then will runes be stronger than Bija mantras?

 

[HPS Lydia]

I was about to start a thread but this one is close enough of a question to what I wanted to ask.



Does this apply the same for chakra empowerment as it does spellwork?
And is it any different if a planet is retrograde as opposed to being in a weak sign?

Right now while both Venus and Mercury are retrograde and if I want to empower my Heart or Throat chakra, then will runes be stronger than Bija mantras?

Yes, for chakra empowerment it is best if the ruling chakra is in a strong sign, even if using runes. Mercury is direct now btw. I would avoid if the planet is retrograde or in a weak sign.

If a working has already been started to empower a chakra and the ruling planet goes Rx or enters a weak sign you can continue with basic empowerment.

 

[luis]

Yes, for chakra empowerment it is best if the ruling chakra is in a strong sign, even if using runes. Mercury is direct now btw. I would avoid if the planet is retrograde or in a weak sign.

If a working has already been started to empower a chakra and the ruling planet goes Rx or enters a weak sign you can continue with basic empowerment.

What about full chakra meditation? Starting it when a certain planet is weak or retrograde would it be a problem?
And another thing if I can ask, I do my cleaning with Raum mantra and right after I do my protection with Satanas, after this I do my full chakra meditation. I have to questions, is it okay to do everything one after the other, cleaning and protection like I do. And I use Raum for cleaning and Raum in my full chakra meditation, is it a problem? Sometimes I have doubts.

 

[Henu the Great]

I have to questions, is it okay to do everything one after the other, cleaning and protection like I do. And I use Raum for cleaning and Raum in my full chakra meditation, is it a problem? Sometimes I have doubts.

You can do like this, for example. AUM - Whatever you do - AUM. That should make sure that close sessions are not interfering with each other.

 

[HPS Lydia]

What about full chakra meditation? Starting it when a certain planet is weak or retrograde would it be a problem?
And another thing if I can ask, I do my cleaning with Raum mantra and right after I do my protection with Satanas, after this I do my full chakra meditation. I have to questions, is it okay to do everything one after the other, cleaning and protection like I do. And I use Raum for cleaning and Raum in my full chakra meditation, is it a problem? Sometimes I have doubts.

Satanas for protection? Satanas is for empowering the soul and chakras. I would suggest to use a mantra for protection instead, that way the energy of the mantra is in itself protecting, and not relying solely on your affirmation after raising energy, which is what Satanas name-mantra does.

Yes you can do those one after the other. Raum for cleaning and then in your solar chakra is fine.

 

[luis]

Satanas for protection? Satanas is for empowering the soul and chakras. I would suggest to use a mantra for protection instead, that way the energy of the mantra is in itself protecting, and not relying solely on your affirmation after raising energy, which is what Satanas name-mantra does.

Yes you can do those one after the other. Raum for cleaning and then in your solar chakra is fine.

I understand thank you. I just changed my routine and I'm doing the Returning curses, I did it in the past but I was feeling I needed to do it again.

For the Satanas I always thought it was a good general mantra to use for everything, but what you say makes sense.

Sometimes I have some doubts about the things I'm doing even tho I felt everything was working. Sorry to bother you

 

[HPS Lydia]

I understand thank you. I just changed my routine and I'm doing the Returning curses, I did it in the past but I was feeling I needed to do it again.

For the Satanas I always thought it was a good general mantra to use for everything, but what you say makes sense.

Sometimes I have some doubts about the things I'm doing even tho I felt everything was working. Sorry to bother you

You're not bothering me, I am here to help