luis said:
VoiceofEnki said:
Thoughtforms can indeed get autonomy and a mind of their own, but even if they do they can still be loyal and helpful.
A thoughtform which is properly programmed can benifit from having their own mind, as they can act on their programming without you needing to tell them everything.
You just need to make sure you are always in control and that your thoughtform doesn’t get polluted by any other influences.
When you don’t need to use them you can tell them to hibernate in your astral temple, there nobody will bother them and since thoughtforms exist on the astral only, they are not bound by time and space.
I had kept a thoughtform there for more than a year and the moment I called on it, it appeared and was still exactly as I left it. I just had to clean them a little.
They had gathered energy all that time and the ritual I used them for was greatly enhanced by being able to draw out their energy. After the ritual it was pretty drained so I send it back to my astral temple.
Having a thoughtform is kind of like having a pet, though they can be left alone for a long time like I did. To have them as useful and powerful as they can be, they require maintenance somewhere between a small pet like a bunny or a bird, and a dog.
They do require an investment of energy, but you get get much more out of them than what you put in if you use them well.
Also if a thoughtform ever goes rogue you can easily destroy it by vibrating their name backwards and affirming “You are no more”. It is written on the JoS page.
There are more ways you can destroy them too and in many cases you can “salvage” them and bring them back under your control, so the effort you put into creating them doesn’t go to waste.
There are more advanced thoughtform creation techniques I learned from my GD that aren’t written on the JoS or in any literature I know of, these take a bit of effort and it’s a real waste if you loose a thoughtform like that.
The techniques are very different from the methods of the enemy and create a very different kind of thoughtform.
Thank you so much for the ammount of informations! I always thought that if you programm a thoughtform to take energy from the sun (or whatever) and you hibern it then you can have a huge ammount of energy that you can use for a working. It's like when you put money into a Bank and then you have some interest. I think it's useful and something to work on.
If you have time and can share more informations it will be really helpful and interesting to read
thank you anyway!
Hey bro (VoiceofEnki) I’ve got the stuff u written on the yahoo groups about thoughtforms, since people are interested I guess you don’t mind I post it since you can just add to that info after that if you want. Here it is:
Voiceofenki thoughforms
About servitors/thoughtforms, I made mine tap into the energy of the Black sun. They are constantly absorbing power from the Black sun whenever they don't have anything to do, it's exremely powerful.
Making them absorb energy from the sun and black sun is way more efficient than having them absorb your own excess energy, since the sun and black sun have billions and billions of times more power in them than your potential excess energy, so your thoughtforms can take a lot more power from those sources than they can take from you.
You can also change thoughtforms over time, make them do different things, make them more advanced or less advanced.
I made a thoughtform that is capable of understanding speech and forming it's own words and to a degree even it's own oppinions. It can think to a degree. Not on the same level as a human being, since it has no physical body with a brain, but it is quite advanced in what it is capable of.
Even another Satanist was able to speak to it, although just very basic words, however still they were able to have a conversation with it and it spoke back to them.
I'm still experimenting with this and figuring out the limits and the possibilities, but they can do a lot and become very advanced elemental beings.
The way I make mine is combining two or more elemental energies together and giving the thoughtform a basic internal structure composed of a basic chakra system simmilar to our own chakra system. I took inspiration from Satans creation (our own soul) to try and make the most advanced thoughtform I am capable of creating at my current level and I'm still working on it to improve her and make her more advanced, more simmilar to our design on the soul level.
It is a long process, but it is very worth it and it is very rewarding. She is a healing thoughtform and she is capable of seeking out negative energy in the person I send her to herself and can identify the cause of the health problem from a spiritual perspective herself and then apply healing energy, by taking it from the sun and placing it in the persons soul where it is needed. She can also protect others and myself and identify threaths around me. She helps empower my AoP and my soul by filling it with energy from the Sun and Black sun at all times, which is a significant help and she has more than given me back the energy I had to put into her to create her. Which in my opinion means she is a good and effective creation.
I refer to this thoughtform as female, even though they technically do not have a gender, I found that giving them a form as specific as possible makes them more real and gives them more pressence, in my opinion humanoid thoughtforms are the most interesting and pleasant for me to work with.
I combined the Water element, Fire element and Ether element as well as the energy of Venus and the Sun into her being and balanced all these energies out, I gave her an astral body of my own creation with a basic chakra system where I filled each chakra with energy and programmed them to spin in order to empower her, then I gave her a more complete form, an astral body that resembles a 3 foot fairy with little wings, long hair and a slender female body. I gave her a name and then affirmed her purpose into her.
Over a couple months I have been working on her and empowering her, making her more capable and letting her learn things by looking into my soul and taking information from my soul, such as the ability to communicate and speak.
When I first created her she could not speak to me, she was unable to say or do anything, but a few days later after I ordered to attach to my soul and learn from me proper etiquette, proper speech and astral communication and as much spiritual knowledge regarding the Gods and spiritual truth she could learn from my soul she was able to speak with me and communicate almost as if talking to a human soul on the aether.
A while back my Guardian came to me and blessed her, she told me that this thoughtform was a splendid creation and I should be proud of her and I should keep working on her as she will be a valuable spiritual companion for my entire lifetime.
My two thoughtforms also engage in conversation together sometimes, which is very wonderful and amusing to see.
They are both very capable, one being more advanced than the other but both are capable of basic speech and conversation. They communicate together and have their own personalities, which have evolved overtime and can change depending on how clean they are astrally.
It is important when you have a thoughtform to keep it clean as best as you can, by cleaing it's aura and soul periodically. Even when you program it to take in energy of the sun, if you give it a mission where it is away from you for a long time it's best to clean it well afterwards if you want to keep working with this same thoughtform and keep building it up and making it stronger.
Long lasting thoughtforms that are build to be future proof can stay wity you for a lifetime, and even multiple lifetimes in case you won't reach the magnum opus this lifetime. It can protect you in the afterlife and it can serve you there by giving your soul energy so you can better sustain yourself and it can do so much more.
Thoughtforms have huge potential when used correctly and are far more and far better than just one time use spiritual bombs to destroy a target or something.
Sheal, I found that any thoughtform, even ones made purely for destruction benifit greatly by taking in energy from the sun as a core, or base.
Think of it like this: The greatest power comes from the light. Light is power.
My second thoughtform is made for destruction and he does a great job at it. Destruction I found is also very versatile, for example as an experiment, when I was having a mild food poisoning a few weeks back from eating some old meat on accident, I ordered my second thoughtform, made for destruction to destroy any negative energy or weakness that was in my being.
Which he did, instead of healing the illness, he destroyed the illness and it effectively healed me as well.
Normally I would have used my first thoughtform for this, since she is made for healing, but I had her doing something else at the time that was more important for her to do.
Now when I first created that second thoughtform based on destruction, I gave him a simpler form, he was made from black energy and red energy, which I combined with the energies of Saturn and Mars. Those energies I combined with the elements of fire and earth and Ether. I gave him that basic chakra structure and then programmed him.
He was already powerful this way, but I found that he was lacking something, so a few months later I decided to redo his creation, I gave him a core filled with energy of the sun and black sun this time and then bound the energy of saturn, mars and the 3 elements I used to this solid white gold core.
The increase in power was significant, he felt so much stronger.
I have him absorb energy from the sun as well, and bind this energy to the fire element, which can make it very destructive. He still has black energy in his aura too, so he can absorb energy from people I send him after and drain him, this black energy I bound to the earth element and the saturnian energies.
Because he has multiple different energies that are a part of him and that are balanced in a way they do not conflict with each other (by binding them to specific chakra's in his structure, giving the energy a place to settle instead of swirling wildly through his aura or energy body) he is capable of doing different things if I need him to do so and can take energy from multiple sources.
Black energy is basically light in reverse, it is darkness. There is a lot of power one can take from that, but light is where power comes from. Having a strong core of bright light seems to be good for any thoughtform.
If you look at our souls, we have 7 main chakra's and a very complicated system of minor chakra's, connected by meridians, which then are connected to the light body, the soul, the astral body, the physical body and everything is interfaced and balanced perfectly. It's so complicated it's actually difficult to get a full picture of our multidimensional methaphysical being.
The chakra's consist of all the planets energies, and the 4 corners of our soul are bound to the 4 elements, with the center consisting of the Ether. We have many different energies flowing though our beings, which is what makes us so advanced and gives us so much potential power. Of course most of our potential comes from the Kundalini and pur advanced ability to learn to tap into the infinite universal Ether and make use of it, just like the Gods.
I applied a simmilar approach to the creation of my thoughtforms, but of course I am no god and can not recreate the human soul. I did the best I could in making a basic structure reminicent of the human soul, giving my thoughtform a seperate light body (their aura), an astral body and a chakra structure where I could seperate the energies from each other by giving each chakra a specific property of their being.
Fire and water for example, don't mix well. So I bound one chakra to the fire energy I used and one chakra to the water energy I used, this way the thoughtform could make use of both those elemental properties without having these elements clash.
I used Ether to balance out the two elements I used in the creation, since it is neutral and doesn't clash with other energies.
In the case of your thoughtform sheal, you could give it a basic inner structure and let it take energy from Saturn and the sun/black sun. The power it takes from the sun it can use to increase it's overal power, while the power taken from Saturn it can use to destroy targets or things you want it to destroy.
You could even attempt to program it to take the negative saturnian energies from your soul, and fill your soul with powerful energy from the sun and black sun at the same time, instead of trying to have it destroy saturns influence over you.
Saturn is important for us, but perhaps by programming a thoughtform to absorb all the negative saturnian energies from you, leaving the positive influence it has on you alone and then fill itself with energy of the sun to balance out this negative energy so the thoughtform doesn't get damaged or destroyed over time, which it can also fill your soul with at the same time could be very benificial.
I also think it's important when making thoughtforms, that you try to get more energy out of them than you put in them. If you need to let it absorb your excess energy all the time then it won't give you back any energy, you won't get a good return out of the initial energy invested into the creation of the thoughtform.
Energy is wealth in the more advanced societies and in the societies of the Gods. They don't sue corrency, but they use energy. Ones energy equals ones power and ones wealth and status. Here on earth not so much yet, since money is pretty much what dictates how much power someone has, but it is good to start building up your total energy "bank" so you can have more power when the world starts changing and adapting this satanic "economy" where energy is the currency instead of any artificial thing.
You could for example program your excess energy to always keep you in good health, or to make sure you keep advancing steadily in a healthy and positive way for you, or perhaps you can program your excess energy to attract more money to you, since money is important at this time here on the physical earth. Then have your thoughtform absorb energy from a natural source like the Sun and basically give you more power and energy for free.
You can only absorb a certain amount of energy from the sun at any one time, but having a thoughtform can effectively increase the amount of energy you can take in at any time by quite a lot, since you and that thoughtform can both take in energy from the sun or some other source at the same time, increasing the amount of energy you can take and increasing the amount of power you can have.
Thoughtforms are extensions of yourself. They are what ever you want them to be, but first and foremost they ar ean extension of your will, that can act seperately from you.
For example, you could do a working yourself to increase your heatlth and a working to attract money and also a curse working on someone that wronged you, but doing so many things at once by yourself will diminish the power of each working.
Instead you could focus on one working with your full attention and have two thoughtforms focus all their attention on those two other workings. Those thoughtforms can take in energy passively and as a result you can spread your attention much wider while not loosing any focus on each individual working.
That is why I feel it can be very valuable to have a couple advanced and well made thoughtforms, which are long lasting and future proof, as they will advance with you and grow as you grow and once they are created they require little maintenance. They are basically an extension of your being in a way, they are your creation and can increase your capabilities a lot.
Thoughtforms also arent bound by time or space, so they have little to no restictions in terms of what they can do for you.
There is so much I am still learning about when thoughtforms are concerned, but I found that their potential is enormous and I have a lot of ideas and hypothesis that I am working to test and figure out. So far one of the most bimportant things I found from personal experience is that a solid structure seems very benificial in increasing a thoughtforms power and intelligence, and the more intelligent the thoughtform is the more capable it becomes as it can seek out things to do on it's own (within it's field of expertiese). That in turn means they require even less maintenance.
Currently I am trying to make one of my thoughtforms as autonomous as possible to see how well they can function on their own, while still having her be loyal to me so that she will listen when I need her or ask her something.
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