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Why does someone who is supposed to be an enlightened person resort to physical actions when they disagree with something, rather than simply discussing what has been bothering them?"

I am new and have a lot to learn, but we should set a high standard for ourselves and the gods, and not act like four-legged baboons."

We all need to do better by not putting others down and instead lifting each other up. It's something I need to work on, and I am working on it.

We should all model our patience after the gods."

I love each one of you guys and the god's
 
Unfortunately our world and the people in it are very unbalanced. There is a great deal of things that need fixed, both in ourselves even as Satanists, and the rest of the world.

This varies on an individual basis but you must understand this world has been extremely dark and without the light of the Gods for some time now.

As a result some very intense and potentially negative things can emerge from people, even if they are overall okay people.

The good news is yes, everything will be good in time and things will become very wonderful in our world as the enemy is destroyed and things move forward.

But we must also be realistic in that alot of issues and things need dealt with, this unfortunately doesn't happen quickly.

I spent much of my life dealing with insanely terrible circumstances from family, and friends, and all sorts of just mind boggling problems, violence and abuse included.

I had far too many brushes with death, violence, and suffering. What I learned from this is one must be very careful and navigate life as best as they can.

We have our community here to guide us through this, both personal struggles and coping with the state of the world. Life can get pretty bad at times, we ultimately have to cope with this and mitigate the issues we deal with as best as we are able to.
 
That's disgusting, that's just toxic positivity, there's no such thing as having to behave one way

If someone behaves in a certain way it's because there's a reason for it, simple as that, if someone physically attacks you and you don't defend yourself you're not being evolved but an idiot
 
Why does someone who is supposed to be an enlightened person resort to physical actions when they disagree with something, rather than simply discussing what has been bothering them?"

"Unnecessary violence" is done by Non enlightened person. People resort to violence for various reasons. And if you notice, if there is lower standard of morals, there is more chances of violence. Sometimes violence is done due to ingrained trauma. But the process of enlightenment gets one rid of all these traumas and mental health conditions and issues which we call blockages. Because if there a blockage, one cannot see the universe as it is. It will cloud the judgement, thinking etc.
Unnecessary violence is done by beasts. We must avoid it. Violence should be used only when necessary, for example, life threatening situations, self defense. If someone punches you, simply go to the police and file a case, ruin that person. That person is a parasite for the society. Those type of people hinders the progress of civilization. And if you understand that that person did not mean it, couldn't help himself, lashes out on you due to other issues, help him out if you are able to, but ensure your safety first.
 
Hello,

I will assume that you are asking a general question, since I do not know the larger context.

As others have said previously, that is not the behavior of an enlightened person.
Physical action or violence is not at all an appropriate or justified response to someone expressing an opinion or discussing a topic.

Such persons should be avoided and watched out for.
Not only are they not enlightened, in my opinion, as they may claim (not properly, anyway) but they are dangerous.

If it is not a general question and you have experienced this with someone first hand, it is up to you to decide how to proceed with this person moving forward.

Sincerely,
HDNW.
 
It is not require to love everyone here.
We are all different individuals, spanning over infinitely characters. It is very likely that there will be someone that gets on your nerves, and that is ok.

What is required is basic respect and good manners in the forum.

Regarding the question, people that resort to violence are usually on the lower sphere of existence, as they are not able to win the argument with words and want to soppress your opinion.
It's basic animal behavior, don't be surprised. The world is full of such people and it will be for a very long time.
 
It is not require to love everyone here.
We are all different individuals, spanning over infinitely characters. It is very likely that there will be someone that gets on your nerves, and that is ok.

What is required is basic respect and good manners in the forum.

Regarding the question, people that resort to violence are usually on the lower sphere of existence, as they are not able to win the argument with words and want to soppress your opinion.
It's basic animal behavior, don't be surprised. The world is full of such people and it will be for a very long time.
I totally agree but it was mainly a general question
 
The short answer is violence works.
Not everyone will like you, and that's ok.
Not everyone will respect you, and that's ok too.
Unfortunately those that neither like or respect you may feel as if they can trespass against you or your family/property.
Then it must be fear that keeps the low quality humans away.
Fear of violence keeps my enemies away.
And I like that about me.
I'm certain there are some that would love to take a shot at me.
They don't because they fear the repercussions if they miss.
Turn the other cheek and it will be ripped from your face.
 
The short answer is violence works.
Not everyone will like you, and that's ok.
Not everyone will respect you, and that's ok too.
Unfortunately those that neither like or respect you may feel as if they can trespass against you or your family/property.
Then it must be fear that keeps the low quality humans away.
Fear of violence keeps my enemies away.
And I like that about me.
I'm certain there are some that would love to take a shot at me.
They don't because they fear the repercussions if they miss.
Turn the other cheek and it will be ripped from your face.
True
 
If someone punches you, simply go to the police and file a case, ruin that person. That person is a parasite for the society. Those type of people hinders the progress of civilization. And if you understand that that person did not mean it, couldn't help himself, lashes out on you due to other issues, help him out if you are able to, but ensure your safety first.
That's christianity, not satanism.

If someone punches you, you ideally defend yourself by punching them back. If legally you can't, then you don't do it and move to a better country. It's a man's duty to be trained in martial arts and keep up with that duty.

There's also different types of violence, and you don't always need to defend yourself with the same type. If someone mentally or emotionally abuses you, you can react physically. You react based on your personality, not a buddhist (aka retarded) definition of 'unnecessary violence'.

Unnecessary violence exists but it doesn't apply in practice the way you mentioned it.

Parasitism and violence are 2 different things. Let's not confuse them. If anything, the parasite is the one suing the puncher as that's a disproportionate reaction and you're getting a financial benefit that far exceeds the damage of a punch. It's not justice nor balance in any way.

It's basically what a kike does, since kikes are physically inferior to Gentiles and can't physical retaliate in 99% of the cases. They resort to vicious manipulation and an unreasonable legal system to make Gentiles look bad. And since they have worked hard to preserve their intelligence while poisoning Gentiles' food and water supply, as well as the socio-economic landscape and everything else, they can get away with it easily.

The average general IQ is 85-115, which is ridiculously low. Yet you see many Gentiles bragging for a 115 score and even 125, which is barely above average and would've been considered retarded in the Golden Age. You even see them bragging on social media for taking good-ish care of their body, when literally it's being human 101, even more so masculinity 101.
 
Absolutely nothing wrong with violence. The question is when is it appropriate to engage in acts of physical violence (I suppose that's the kind you were referring to). The more of reality one becomes aware of, the better one can answer that question. Good subject for a philosophical discussion.

SWP
 
Why does someone who is supposed to be an enlightened person resort to physical actions when they disagree with something, rather than simply discussing what has been bothering them?"

I am new and have a lot to learn, but we should set a high standard for ourselves and the gods, and not act like four-legged baboons."

We all need to do better by not putting others down and instead lifting each other up. It's something I need to work on, and I am working on it.

We should all model our patience after the gods."

I love each one of you guys and the god's

Well, it depends.. "violence is the last resort of the inept," (I don't recall where I heard that), but we've all heard that there is a time and place for everything.

Another insightful quote:

“When you meet a swordsman, draw your sword: Do not recite poetry to one who is not a poet.”​

― Robert Greene, The 48 Laws of Power

You shouldn't be passive and take abuse, but yes you should not in an unjust way enact violence (which by the way according to legal definitions, violence doesn't have to involve physical contact). Some things, I think, may never change, and so it may be appropriate at times to use unmerciful force against them with your energies or even physically, in order to protect yourself from being abused. I think one of the reasons the Gods and Satan love us and have so much understanding and compassion for us is that - this world really is not "easy" to navigate through. We are faced with an incredible challenge here called life, though we are fully capable of making it through - some may find it easier than others. Life isn't easy, but that shouldn't be daunting to you.. just respect it. And knowing WHEN it is appropriate to be hostile can be quite a challenge on it's own, and we may make mistakes. It is ultimately, I believe, your true intent that matters the most, and less so whether you made a mistake or not in judging things and how you responded to them - so long as you weren't trying to and you are willing to learn from it.

Some people can be so abusive to others physically and or psychically that they are not deserving, in those situations at those times, of a shred of love or mercy. Some people are poisoning others constantly and you have no obligation to be treated that way, especially not as an SS.

Absolutely nothing wrong with violence. The question is when is it appropriate to engage in acts of physical violence (I suppose that's the kind you were referring to). The more of reality one becomes aware of, the better one can answer that question. Good subject for a philosophical discussion.

SWP
This is very wise, I should have read the thread completely in this case before I began to reply, but I will leave all of what I have written in order to create a bigger consensus of opinion here for our brother. When it comes to "enemies," they come in different grades.. there are those that are likely, from their creation, so opposite to us that there may never be a point in anything but trying to erase any & all influence/power that they have.. like a parasite. But when it comes to the misguided though, it's always going to be up to the individual to use their awareness as you said, in order to figure the situation out for themselves and respond to it.

That's christianity, not satanism.

If someone punches you, you ideally defend yourself by punching them back. If legally you can't, then you don't do it and move to a better country. It's a man's duty to be trained in martial arts and keep up with that duty.

There's also different types of violence, and you don't always need to defend yourself with the same type. If someone mentally or emotionally abuses you, you can react physically. You react based on your personality, not a buddhist (aka retarded) definition of 'unnecessary violence'.

Unnecessary violence exists but it doesn't apply in practice the way you mentioned it.

Parasitism and violence are 2 different things. Let's not confuse them. If anything, the parasite is the one suing the puncher as that's a disproportionate reaction and you're getting a financial benefit that far exceeds the damage of a punch. It's not justice nor balance in any way.

It's basically what a kike does, since kikes are physically inferior to Gentiles and can't physical retaliate in 99% of the cases. They resort to vicious manipulation and an unreasonable legal system to make Gentiles look bad. And since they have worked hard to preserve their intelligence while poisoning Gentiles' food and water supply, as well as the socio-economic landscape and everything else, they can get away with it easily.

The average general IQ is 85-115, which is ridiculously low. Yet you see many Gentiles bragging for a 115 score and even 125, which is barely above average and would've been considered retarded in the Golden Age. You even see them bragging on social media for taking good-ish care of their body, when literally it's being human 101, even more so masculinity 101.
Now, you have said something quite similar too, to what I and Umun thought.. if one were trying to be truly fair about navigating this, we have to acknowledge that it really is a complex, "philosophical" issue. We all have to form our guidelines based on the information we possess.

Some people can be so wicked with their energies/thoughts and actions, that in my mind, without a doubt, it justifies a "violent" response.. but again, violence doesn't have to involve physicality.. so I learned through the law.. it's just a "nature" of action. And without it we'd probably all be dead. We must defend ourselves.. "defense" is what we call it but beneath the word it's simply a process of successfully navigating life.. and a good thing to remember is that there is a difference between being peaceful, and being harmless.

Christianity hypocritically seems to advocate being harmless and passive.. which is obviously very dangerous for an individual, unless they have some delusions about the way nature, reality, and divinities work. I'd like to think most people would learn eventually what is good for them, but the toxic energies contained within xianity are capable of corrupting you to a point where you may not be able to come back from in this lifetime. They DO lead to your destruction, whether they were intentionally made this way or whether it was incompetence hardly matters, and I say this for any possible xian sympathizer to read..

There may be a person or situation that comes around in your lifetime where you could benefit more from forgiving and/or loving them (when they showed you nothing of the sort), but no one has a moral obligation to gamble and take that risk with their own life/quality of life.. it certainly doesn't seem like something that could happen frequently (if you'll experience it at all), if you've been paying attention to people and the world, and we should not forget that. First and foremost we are responsible for our own journey through this world.. if you choose to compromise with that, you have invited whatever follows. Still some don't seem to learn, which is sad.. because some of these people are people we know and have grown beside, our parents, relatives, etc..

Pure love and peace doesn't work because it creates openings for people to exploit and capitalize on, at the expense of others.
We should all strive not to fall victim to bad actors, if you care at all about yourself and your soul.. we are meant to be proud creatures with dignity, because that is a scale we were designed with to measure what's good for us and what isn't.

This has all been written about endlessly on these forums, but I see a point in making the information more accessible and more likely to be discovered, by reaffirming it.
 
Why does someone who is supposed to be an enlightened person resort to physical actions when they disagree with something, rather than simply discussing what has been bothering them?"

I am new and have a lot to learn, but we should set a high standard for ourselves and the gods, and not act like four-legged baboons."

We all need to do better by not putting others down and instead lifting each other up. It's something I need to work on, and I am working on it.

We should all model our patience after the gods."

I love each one of you guys and the god's
Mars energy is what prevents you from being pathetic, is the force that will make you stand up from a difficult situation.

The whole concept of Ares.
 
That's christianity, not satanism.

If someone punches you, you ideally defend yourself by punching them back. If legally you can't, then you don't do it and move to a better country. It's a man's duty to be trained in martial arts and keep up with that duty.

There's also different types of violence, and you don't always need to defend yourself with the same type. If someone mentally or emotionally abuses you, you can react physically. You react based on your personality, not a buddhist (aka retarded) definition of 'unnecessary violence'.

Unnecessary violence exists but it doesn't apply in practice the way you mentioned it.

Parasitism and violence are 2 different things. Let's not confuse them. If anything, the parasite is the one suing the puncher as that's a disproportionate reaction and you're getting a financial benefit that far exceeds the damage of a punch. It's not justice nor balance in any way.

It's basically what a kike does, since kikes are physically inferior to Gentiles and can't physical retaliate in 99% of the cases. They resort to vicious manipulation and an unreasonable legal system to make Gentiles look bad. And since they have worked hard to preserve their intelligence while poisoning Gentiles' food and water supply, as well as the socio-economic landscape and everything else, they can get away with it easily.

The average general IQ is 85-115, which is ridiculously low. Yet you see many Gentiles bragging for a 115 score and even 125, which is barely above average and would've been considered retarded in the Golden Age. You even see them bragging on social media for taking good-ish care of their body, when literally it's being human 101, even more so masculinity 101.
Hi, dear stormblood, let's
That's christianity, not satanism.

If someone punches you, you ideally defend yourself by punching them back. If legally you can't, then you don't do it and move to a better country. It's a man's duty to be trained in martial arts and keep up with that duty.

There's also different types of violence, and you don't always need to defend yourself with the same type. If someone mentally or emotionally abuses you, you can react physically. You react based on your personality, not a buddhist (aka retarded) definition of 'unnecessary violence'.

Unnecessary violence exists but it doesn't apply in practice the way you mentioned it.

Parasitism and violence are 2 different things. Let's not confuse them. If anything, the parasite is the one suing the puncher as that's a disproportionate reaction and you're getting a financial benefit that far exceeds the damage of a punch. It's not justice nor balance in any way.

It's basically what a kike does, since kikes are physically inferior to Gentiles and can't physical retaliate in 99% of the cases. They resort to vicious manipulation and an unreasonable legal system to make Gentiles look bad. And since they have worked hard to preserve their intelligence while poisoning Gentiles' food and water supply, as well as the socio-economic landscape and everything else, they can get away with it easily.

The average general IQ is 85-115, which is ridiculously low. Yet you see many Gentiles bragging for a 115 score and even 125, which is barely above average and would've been considered retarded in the Golden Age. You even see them bragging on social media for taking good-ish care of their body, when literally it's being human 101, even more so masculinity 101.
Hi dear stormblood, I disagree with what you've written.

1. Who made the law of "ideally defend yourself by punching them back?" If you are punching them back, then it's retaliation. Defense is when you are preventing the other person's punch to hit you. I agree, a man should be trained with martial arts.

2. You properly haven't read what I've written. "unnecessary violence" is when someone hits you when you don't deserve it. Hitting someone when he doesn't deserve it is unnecessary violence. And only parasites do it. I didn't say anything about "mental or emotional abuse".

3. "Unnecessary violence exists but it doesn't apply in practice the way you mentioned it." I might've missed something, what did I mention?

4. I advised to sue someone who uses "unnecessary violence". I defined what unnecessary violence is. There are many thugs and goons in our society which does that, and in my eyes, they are parasites, they need to be locked up. Cause, those types of violence is done only by those who are - lowlife, lack education and morals, glorify chaos, can't win an argument and resort to violence. Or do you think these types of people should be allowed to roam free to spread more chaos in the society? I don't care about financial benefits, I want them locked up or learn a proper lesson.

5. I don't know how you managed to pull "kikes" in the situation? See in point 1 what I meant by unnecessary violence. And the way you are saying about physical retaliation, let's imagine a scenario. You are in the street. A man, punches you, unnecessarily. You didn't do anything to deserve it. So that means that person is (1. has anger issues. 2. actually a thug and seeks violence on street. 3. doesn't care about consequences) any point out of three I mentioned inside the bracket. Let's say, to retaliate, you start a fist fight with him. Then say you're winning, but out of nowhere, that person pulls out a knife and stabs you, or pulls out a gun and shoots you. How does that turn out? It's not just about being physically inferior or superior, it's about protecting yourself, and your loved ones. It's survival instinct 101. You don't know who you are dealing with in the streets, Mr. Stormblood. And every world class martial arts gym teaches you, "the best way to win a street fight is by avoiding it". It's not about IQ, not about inferiority or superiority, it's about putting your safety first.

P.S. I agree, every capable man should learn self defense at least to some extent.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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