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Who are All the Demons and How Do Ranks Work?

sublimesatanist

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Under 'The Pantheon of Hell' it appears the Demons are listed in a hierarchy. A Pantheon from what I read means: man's interpretation of the rankings of Gods based on their own.
Does this mean that some Demons (i.e Presidents/Kings/Dukes/Princes) govern over those of a lower rank (Marquesses/Earls), or does it mean they have different roles?

Very deep question. If there isn't an absolute answer known yet no worries! I take it there are things beyond mortal understanding.


Another question - Does anyone have a rough idea as to how many Demons there are beyond the 72 goetic Demons? I think these 72 are listed in the A-Z (Gods of Hell) and in the High Ranking Demons lists, but I haven't counted each one. Satan (I don't think) is included in the goetia.

There are so many Demons! It's truly amazing. I was so happy when I saw Pazuzu in the link 'More Gods'.

I'm interested in learning about Satanism more to better shape what sets the JoS against the very many sects of Satanism.

Nowadays it seems like Satanism is treated like gender - it could be anything you want it to be. There's some weird hybridized shit out there...

I'm grateful to the JoS for building a foundation of truth on what it truly is. Thank you HPs and thank you Satanic family.

Sorry for the barrage of questions everyone. :?


To summarize - List of Questions:

1.) How do ranks work in regards to our Gods?
2.) What are the Gods outside the goetia and does this include Satan?


Hail Satan!
 
To question number one:
Does this mean that some Demons (i.e Presidents/Kings/Dukes/Princes) govern over those of a lower rank (Marquesses/Earls), or does it mean they have different roles?
I do believe it is a bit of both. It also appears to be like a chain of command with the Crowned Princes and ultimately Satan being at the very top. I do believe the names of their ranks given to them are the human labels that can best describe them. However one or two Gods I believe, Andras being one, have no human equivalent to their rank. The names of the ranks are to help us best relate.

To question number two:
Does anyone have a rough idea as to how many Demons there are beyond the 72 goetic Demons?
Aside from the Demons that are in the "more Gods section." there are honestly thousands more. Some of these are friendly to humanity and others are not, and not all of either of these are known to us or on JoS.
 
Shadowcat said:
Some of these are friendly to humanity and others are not, and not all of either of these are known to us or on JoS.

Those that aren't.

Is it due to Humanities current position in how we are basically a pathetic spiritual species and they view us in a dark way.

For example it's been mentioned Saurathra(Sorath) isn't liking of everyone so he might dislike you but probably has to work with said person because he got ordered to do it.

But these Ayylmaos I assume either they dislike our total lack of spiritual progress or are they disliking of us because their species hates us but don't do anything bad to us because they are with Satan.

Think Star Wars or FancyMancy's Star Trek obsession. Star Wars cantina bar scene: You see an Ayylmao(Skywalker) and go the guy goes "I don't like you. Neither does my alien friend here". Before Hamil pulls out his lightsaber and chops the blue alien's arm off.
 
Gear88 said:
Shadowcat said:
Some of these are friendly to humanity and others are not, and not all of either of these are known to us or on JoS.
Is it due to Humanities current position in how we are basically a pathetic spiritual species and they view us in a dark way.

For example it's been mentioned Saurathra(Sorath) isn't liking of everyone so he might dislike you but probably has to work with said person because he got ordered to do it.

But these Ayylmaos I assume either they dislike our total lack of spiritual progress or are they disliking of us because their species hates us but don't do anything bad to us because they are with Satan.

Friendliness has to do more with wanting to fully associated with us, not whether they hate us or not. Any advanced being has compassion, but compassion alone does not mean they want to be your friend, as this comes with obligations and responsibilities.

Generally, it is best not to think that Gods like Sorath or others hate you. Maybe he is more picky about who he associates with, but he is not cruel, hateful, or other negative expressions which we may assume.

The Gods have much more nuanced and developed views about relationships and therefore take them very seriously. Some Gods are open to this, whereas others have chosen not to. This does not mean they view you with outright disgust or something.
 
Gear88 said:
Shadowcat said:
Some of these are friendly to humanity and others are not, and not all of either of these are known to us or on JoS.

Those that aren't.

Is it due to Humanities current position in how we are basically a pathetic spiritual species and they view us in a dark way.

For example it's been mentioned Saurathra(Sorath) isn't liking of everyone so he might dislike you but probably has to work with said person because he got ordered to do it.

But these Ayylmaos I assume either they dislike our total lack of spiritual progress or are they disliking of us because their species hates us but don't do anything bad to us because they are with Satan.

Think Star Wars or FancyMancy's Star Trek obsession. Star Wars cantina bar scene: You see an Ayylmao(Skywalker) and go the guy goes "I don't like you. Neither does my alien friend here". Before Hamil pulls out his lightsaber and chops the blue alien's arm off.

Blitz put some things pretty well there.
As for the other Gods, I have understood that it's more of an attitude of " no offense but no." I think even Cobra wrote about this sometime back if I recall correctly. I am not sure if it's more frustration with the lack of humanities progress or other, it might be something along those lines.
 
Thank you both, Shadowcat/Blitzkreig(Is there some way to delete my previous account Blitzkrieg and you change your name through Cobra's request to restore your name to it's normal krieg rather than kreig)?

Okay I see perhaps I view it in terms of black and white and lack of language arts definitions.

To me I can be nice to a person but does not mean I like nor want to associate myself with them.

As my friend said to me, "I don't respect anyone(he does respect a very small minority of people) but instead I provide common courtesy to avoid interacting with NPCs."

I assume the Gods aren't in the culture war to harass us or offend us or diminish us like my friends ground statement i.e. current Earth. They, the Gods, are stupidly advanced. So in their Worldview I assume while I might say XYZ and feel ABC. Their feelings and statements are very amicable only with a factor of respect me and I respect you. But we aren't buddy, buddy or friendly we just act in our way to establish respect.

For example British and Australian memes of "Mate" bothers me and it bothers some people. It might be a stigma in other countries as there implies some sort of love/sexual aspect to it. So in my language if person A tells me this I respect person A but under no circumstances do I want to be with person A.

The Gods have a higher but similar understand. I like you as a fellow fan of the holy. But I'm not gonna rearrange my life to be your friend. We have a professional account with each other.

Perhaps I'm overexplaining. I understand even I felt like Saurathra "hating"? seems too much of a Human expression and seems to belittle and stigmatize said "Entity(Sorath) as a negative being". When everything that's been said and everything that's been researched by some members and some statements of HP.Cobra state "Glorious entity basically".

I get it. I understand my Human perspective and ground level isn't a factor in outer Worlds it's one of many myriad of Worlds of realities of understanding.

For example like HP.Cobra's God rituals how he combines various language technologies together to reinforce the Gods application of rulership.

These Gods whom view Humanity different just have a different technological view of their Worldview; Microcosmically and Macrocosmically. Not harmful, not hateful, not haters, not negative. Just professional a higher standard.

I'm sure many are reasonable and might just go it's going to take some time for you to understand.

I get it thanks guys. I have to view it like George Lincoln Rockwell if we view outer space and these great galactic societies. We need to be humble and approach it through a better Worldview rather than our limited Human model.

For example believing Woke or Liberal are currently bad words and mean political and cultural garbage people. When in fact originally it stood for a literate person of rights and exercise of rights along with being against the Church and it's overreaching negativity.

Anyways thanks guys. I get it but if you wish to contribute more cool.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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