Arctic666 said:So I have someone being a nuisance at work, constantly trying to sabotage me. It's getting annoying so I decided to do a binding spell.
GEBO + ISA x 108
"NAME is unable to do anything that goes against me or my interests!"
Is it good?
Ghost in the Machine said:Good luck and if you have anymore questions feel free to ask me, I use black magic a lot in fighting the enemy and have a number of years of experience with it's uses. Other more advanced members here too will also be able to help.
I think I want to use runes on this one, I want the pest to die sooner rather than later. And hopefully by doing this for 40, 80, 120 days(don't care), it would also attach the curse onto it's soul. Making sure it carries over into the next incarnation of that person(if it will even reincarnate). I know that doing something for 40 days engraves things into the soul, so I don't see why that wouldn't be the case with death spells/curses.Shael said:
My browser crashed midway while I was writing -_-Popcorn666 said:
Purified666 said:
Popcorn666 said:Ghost in the Machine said:Good luck and if you have anymore questions feel free to ask me, I use black magic a lot in fighting the enemy and have a number of years of experience with it's uses. Other more advanced members here too will also be able to help.
Sorry for quoting you here, but I'm about to start a massive death spell soon so I'd like your opinion on it. THURISAZ + HAGL + INGWAZ(Each 108 vibrations)
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26118
I read what Shael told me so I'll also do Zastir mantra before I do the the death-spell.
Do you vibrate the runes in reverse when you do black magic? I'm worried about them not being effective...
As for what I'd visualize during the vibrations(this came to me today).. Firstly, I'd visualize the rune I'm vibrating shining bright red, searing itself deep into the pests soul. Is this part good? I don't want to make it somehow beneficial for that person.
I'd also engulf the pest with grey aura which would get filled with more grey energy, vibrate and compress(getting darker and darker) as I'm vibrating the rune(s). And the last thing I'd visualize is my hand holding a dagger filled with dark-grey energy, it would exude it out of it's tip. With each vibration, I'd stab the pest, twist the dagger and leave it there(and during each subsequent vibration, I'd stab the pest quarter of an inch further from the other dagger, until the entire body is filled with those daggers). Will this make the spell more effective?
Or is just visualizing the rune and grey energy enough?
I think I want to use runes on this one, I want the pest to die sooner rather than later. And hopefully by doing this for 40, 80, 120 days(don't care), it would also attach the curse onto it's soul. Making sure it carries over into the next incarnation of that person(if it will even reincarnate). I know that doing something for 40 days engraves things into the soul, so I don't see why that wouldn't be the case with death spells/curses.Shael said:
... wait. Why shouldn't I do both? I vibrate Zastir, put the grey energy around the target and do the affirmation. I have never used Zastir... so I'm thinking about substituting it for Thurizas(I'm a rune junkie, sorry ). Unless you really think that Zastir is much better to gain control over something.
Then after an hour later, I vibrate Zastir/Thurizas again and use the runes(I trust that using the same rune twice, won't do any harm,yes?).
Do you think that's a good or a bad thing? To basically do two death-spells?
What worries me is vibrating the runes in reverse though... I'm sure that people had success with vibrating runes normally in black magic.
Is it okay to start this on Saturday? Moon is waning, which I think is good for curses and it's also in Cancer(which is a clingy sign I believe).
And I'm sorry for asking so many questions, I really want to cover everything.
Thank you for your help, guys!
Popcorn666 said:
Shael said:
No no no, that would be a death sentence. Never use Sanskrit words directly for cursing. You would end up connecting yourself deeply into the bad energies and ruin yourself. The only thing that Sanskrit words can be used for in cursing, is like with zAsitR to open the victim up further and establish control. Never for "direct" black magick.Purified666 said:You being a Sanskirt fanboy got me thinking. Could he use a combination of Sanskrit words to achieve the same goal?
So let's say we use three words:
zAsitR - governor
duHkha - suffering or roga - disease
mRtyu - death.
Would that be safer than the runes? Or is it the same thing basically?
Or maybe he can just straight up dominate the target.
zAsitR - governor
manastApa - mental pain
AtmahatyA - suicide or unmattatA - insanity(their true self dies, so you can count that as a death). This way seems more safe since you're not using any death energy and the end result will be the same.
What do you think?
I'll quote you here too Popcorn666.Popcorn666 said:
Oh, alright then. Thank you!Shael said:No no no, that would be a death sentence. Never use Sanskrit words directly for cursing. You would end up connecting yourself deeply into the bad energies and ruin yourself. The only thing that Sanskrit words can be used for in cursing, is like with zAsitR to open the victim up further and establish control. Never for "direct" black magick.
Ghost in the Machine said:
Of course I wont. When I use grey energy, I just gather it from the targets surroundings. I visualize the target and the grey energy getting pulled from the area they're in.Ghost in the Machine said:ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, NEVER take this energy into your self, this is evocation of the energy in that you keep it separate and outside of yourself, gathering it form the surrounding akasha and only going into your target(s).
More than you know. Thank you!Ghost in the Machine said:I hope this helps.
Shael said:I'll quote you here too Popcorn666.
I actually should have mentioned this much earlier, zAsitR should not be vibrated into your target. You vibrate it into yourself and then state your affirmation afterwards while visualizing the target, to open them up to your influence. The way I worded it earlier could be misunderstood easily. You want to use it to give yourself the energies of the dominator, not your target.
I talked about this in another post, you can check it here: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20459&p=87959#p87959Popcorn666 said:Thank you for clarifying that. I'll just focus on my soul when I'm vibrating zAsitR. Oh! When I'm visualizing the target, should I use some sort of symbolism? Like the target being literally a puppet on a string and me controlling it as a puppeteer?
If not, I'll just keep a still image of the target in my mind during the affirmations.
Shael said:I talked about this in another post, you can check it here: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20459&p=87959#p87959Popcorn666 said:Thank you for clarifying that. I'll just focus on my soul when I'm vibrating zAsitR. Oh! When I'm visualizing the target, should I use some sort of symbolism? Like the target being literally a puppet on a string and me controlling it as a puppeteer?
If not, I'll just keep a still image of the target in my mind during the affirmations.
Any visualization that you personally prefer should be fine. Adding a part that penetrates through the aura and into the head (or chakra(s)) of the target, like I mentioned in the post linked above, would be good though.
Shael said:For one, you can try the necronomicon mantra for gaining control of a situation and shaping reality - #47 ADDU/KAKODAMMU.
Just vibrate 47x ADDU and then 47x KAKODAMMU while focusing on this sigil:
During the whole thing, visualize the desired result happening as you focus on the sigil, and then finish it all off with an affirmation as usual.
Bro don't overdo it. Focus on one to two things at a time or else you'll just dilute your energies and not manifest much at all. Just because you found some more tools now that doesn't mean you should take your whole toolbox and throw it at his head. Pick what suits the situation most and focus your efforts on that. You dont get faster results by doing 3 different workings at once. You get fast results by doing one working with laser-focus and proper execution.Popcorn666 said:
Ghost in the Machine said:Popcorn666 said:Ghost in the Machine said:Good luck and if you have anymore questions feel free to ask me, I use black magic a lot in fighting the enemy and have a number of years of experience with it's uses. Other more advanced members here too will also be able to help.
Sorry for quoting you here, but I'm about to start a massive death spell soon so I'd like your opinion on it. THURISAZ + HAGL + INGWAZ(Each 108 vibrations)
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26118
I read what Shael told me so I'll also do Zastir mantra before I do the the death-spell.
Do you vibrate the runes in reverse when you do black magic? I'm worried about them not being effective...
As for what I'd visualize during the vibrations(this came to me today).. Firstly, I'd visualize the rune I'm vibrating shining bright red, searing itself deep into the pests soul. Is this part good? I don't want to make it somehow beneficial for that person.
I'd also engulf the pest with grey aura which would get filled with more grey energy, vibrate and compress(getting darker and darker) as I'm vibrating the rune(s). And the last thing I'd visualize is my hand holding a dagger filled with dark-grey energy, it would exude it out of it's tip. With each vibration, I'd stab the pest, twist the dagger and leave it there(and during each subsequent vibration, I'd stab the pest quarter of an inch further from the other dagger, until the entire body is filled with those daggers). Will this make the spell more effective?
Or is just visualizing the rune and grey energy enough?
I think I want to use runes on this one, I want the pest to die sooner rather than later. And hopefully by doing this for 40, 80, 120 days(don't care), it would also attach the curse onto it's soul. Making sure it carries over into the next incarnation of that person(if it will even reincarnate). I know that doing something for 40 days engraves things into the soul, so I don't see why that wouldn't be the case with death spells/curses.Shael said:
... wait. Why shouldn't I do both? I vibrate Zastir, put the grey energy around the target and do the affirmation. I have never used Zastir... so I'm thinking about substituting it for Thurizas(I'm a rune junkie, sorry ). Unless you really think that Zastir is much better to gain control over something.
Then after an hour later, I vibrate Zastir/Thurizas again and use the runes(I trust that using the same rune twice, won't do any harm,yes?).
Do you think that's a good or a bad thing? To basically do two death-spells?
What worries me is vibrating the runes in reverse though... I'm sure that people had success with vibrating runes normally in black magic.
Is it okay to start this on Saturday? Moon is waning, which I think is good for curses and it's also in Cancer(which is a clingy sign I believe).
And I'm sorry for asking so many questions, I really want to cover everything.
Thank you for your help, guys!
Holy shit, slow down there I'm more concerned about your level of advancement and how well you direct energy. Especially with these runes and THAT many times each. There is a reason why these kinds of workings are for advanced users and those with experience. You are dealing with very destructive and negative energies that if somehow backfired on you through any means could cause great, great harm upon you, even death. There is no way you can convince me that you are advanced enough yet to use these, I myself wouldn't even do this yet, ESPECIALLY THURISAZ, the energies of this rune are wild and chaotic, you really need a powerful focus and will to keep it in line.
If you do not have any real confidence in your abilities to properly direct, tame and control these runes then this is where they will backfire on you. You must know yourself very well and your capabilities when working death magick and you must have a powerful aura of protection. I myself have a death spell planned for January upon someone but it's nowhere near as intense as you've made yours.
Do not use THURISAZ, this is a mere pest problem not some man threatening to murder your family. I would suggest you start the working on the coming Saturday, the 21st of December as the moon will be in Scorpio and this is perfect for death magick and black magick in general, just make sure it's not a Void of Course Moon when you start it, I track them here (just put in your timezone at the bottom of the list)
Use the HAGL rune and ISA rune together as one word, this combines the energies of the runes, and yes vibrate them in reverse for black magick, this will also help prevent yourself from connecting with them. So:
LLLLLGGGG-AAAAHHH-AAAAAH-SSSSSS-IIIIIII
When vibrating the LLLGGG, it's both L and G enunciated together. Position your tongue like you would when you pronounce the L letter and hold it there, then close your throat slightly as if to make a 'guh' sound but don't completely close it or vibrate a guttural G, just allow air to continue flowing through. This is essentially L and G combined and that is how you vibrate it. It's vibrated like this both in the reverse and proper format of the rune.
Before you vibrate LGAH-ASI though you should first clean your aura and build your aura of protection. Just focus on your soul and vibrate SOWILO into it and visualize a bright white-gold light cleansing your aura, soul and chakras and burning away and detroying any negative energy in yourself. Vibrate SOWILO as many times as you need to do this until you're satisfied. Then once your aura is clean, just preform your typical aura of protection and build upon it as much as you can until you are satisfied with the amount of protection. Next, vibrate the ALGIZ rune onto yourself, essentially add it as an extra layer of shielding to your aura and soul. Vibrate ALGIZ 10 or a multiple of 10 times this way, you can keep doing multiples of 10 until you are satisfied with your protection and your soul and aura is glowing a vibrant and very powerful white-gold. Know that this aura completely protects you from and deflects negative energy.
Now you can vibrate LGAH-ASI as I have shown above. Vibrate it for a multiple of 54 times and as you are vibrating it visualize that you are directly vibrating it INTO your target(s). Visualize it as a a suffocating grey energy that is seeping into them and consuming their energy and soul completely, extending and grasping thorny spiked tendrils around their hearts and crushing the organ, destroying it and killing them. Visualize and do this as many times as you can with intent until you finish all 54 of your reps. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, NEVER take this energy into your self, this is evocation of the energy in that you keep it separate and outside of yourself, gathering it form the surrounding akasha and only going into your target(s).
Now affirm with intent 9 times or a multiple of 9 times (choose one but stick to it throughout the rest of the days of the working, I would probably personally use 27 but it's all up to you and how much time you have to spare.) -"In a safe, healthy and positive way for me, the targets are now thoroughly destroyed and killed and are now completely dead. They and their kind are now and forever no longer able to do anything against me that goes against my wishes and desires."
Then when you are finished, vibrate AUM once to cut off the working and lock the energies into place to continue doing as you have programmed them to. Now just ignore the working and leave it to it's job, turn your attention and focus to something else, it will keep doing as you've 'told' it to, focusing on the working or thinking about it could divert the energies and ruin their path or even send the energies back at you. Void meditation is good practice for this kind of thing, but the point is to just not think about the working.
I would then advise using SOWILO to clean your aura once again as many times as is needed as doing black magic and working with negative energies can bring about hatred and anger as they empower the working, but you do not want to retain this kind of emotional energy in yourself after the fact, so just clean it out.
Do this working for a total of 81 days.
I hope this helps.
If you plan to use Thurisaz internally, it's best to wait until you are more experienced and your mind is stronger.homeraee said:Can THURISAZ be used in white magick for inexperienced people?
homeraee said:Can THURISAZ be used in white magick for inexperienced people?
thankyouGhost in the Machine said:homeraee said:Can THURISAZ be used in white magick for inexperienced people?
"The power of this rune is wild and a strong mind/will is needed to direct it".
Thurisaz can definitely be used for white magick, but as the quote states above, it is wild energy and takes effort to direct it appropriately. Faltering your focus can cause unintended or useless results as with any rune. With wild energies such as those conjured by Thurisaz, you need to be able to command it with a strong will and intent. Not all energies are so easily bound by our will, sometimes you must wrangle it. For sensing, directing and utilizing energy, you need experience in doing such, and from there you need to strengthen your skill in doing so.
One can always practice directing energy with this method.
I however don't believe personal development will happen for anyone who chooses to remain comfortable in suffocating safety unless they take a small step out of their comfort zone. Common sense comes first though, after all if you see a stove is turned on you're not going to touch the element to see if it's hot now are you? You'll end up burning yourself. If you feel your ability to direct and focus energy is something you are confident in, then you can experiment with the rune and test the waters for yourself. Vibrate it a couple of times for your intended purpose in white magick and see how well you can direct it for such.
Be confident in yourself and assert your power. If at any point you personally feel, suspect or think something bad, unwanted or negative has come up or occurred from any improper direction of the rune, then simply stop and continue to practice and develop your skills and experience to try again another time down the road. Doubt and fear are things you don't want to be feeling when trying to direct any kind of energy, learn to control and discipline yourself and this will help greatly. It's all a learning process, you're not going to be able to lift 200 pounds if you can't even lift 80 yet, as a comparison example.
You definitely get there eventually though.
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan