What happened to maxine?

[Shadowcat]

Some pagans outside of the forums are saying she is dead.

I don't know if that is true but...

She didn't even tell us goodbye.

At least not publicly anyway.

Since when do we believe anything outsiders say?

They may be Pagan but do not do any effective meditations. Their awareness, power and advancement are negligible because of this. So their opinion are irrelevant, being inferior souls compared to any established SS.

Since there are holes in the story how could one not?

If you really think there are "holes in the story" Then someone has really been feeding you bad ideas. Remember that the secrecy around this whole thing is absolutely necessary as this often happens in war to protect valuable information or people. You are probably having these thoughts because this all makes you uneasy but i can assure you there is nothing to be uneasy about.

What outsiders speculate about is their own problem and has nothing to do with us and can even be intentionally misleading, so please be aware and talk to the Gods about your doubts. I can assure you they are unfounded.

 

[siatris666]

STOP CENSORING MY COMMENTS

STOP DELETING/EDITING MY COMMENTS

 

[Mastermind]

all domains are in maxine name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

STOP CENSORING MY COMMENTS

STOP DELETING/EDITING MY COMMENTS

If you keep posting things that are of a dubious or problematic nature, or are information that is bad and/or troublesome, then I will delete your comments or edit out what is dangerous. Even if you have certain things like addresses etc, you cannot post these, nor legal names etc, because this is for the forum and can bring other issues which are more important than you "expressing" anything. This is irrespective on if it would be to my own benefit.

all domains are in maxine name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.

That is your personal opinion, not knowledge, and based on low level imagination and other similar things, rather than access to understanding or what we might have planned. In this case, it does not reflect anything but pointless statements.

HPS Maxine would never take anything down, and please do not listen to the ravings of Siatris or anything like this. He says some correct things, but he is overreacting because he gets paranoid and wants to "defend" me while all he does is scream things.

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Like it or don't like it, HPS Maxine is a celebrity of sorts. Her fame will only increase. People are bound to be curious and want to know more - living vicariously until they learn to live their own lives.

True, and for this reason, be careful of wild or extreme hoaxing. I won't be surprised if people make up lies perpetually about this. The things I have read are not only out of mark, but very wild imaginations. This happens to me even, people have made fake Telegrams [as if I would ever use Telegram after speaking openly against it] and so on, or even impersonate in e-mails.

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This is why I hate it when people discuss it.

Yeah, I can understand that. At the same time, if someone is genuinely confused or misinformed, I'd rather them ask and get a proper answer. That includes asking Satan, not just us.

That is because this is a controversial subject that we cannot allow the enemy to use against us. They will certainly try.

There is no reason to deny any answer. That's why everything is approved except of some comments that deal with doxxing information and stuff like this.

People should go to Father Satan directly [provided they are competent spiritually and psychically open] and ask directly, if they find no entertaining answers here.

Some pagans outside of the forums are saying she is dead.

I don't know if that is true but...

She didn't even tell us goodbye.

At least not publicly anyway.

Come one now..Don't believe anything a den of rats tells you much less wanna be "pagans" who still worship a jew on a stick or who follow ONA....they are delusional trash.

Pagans are also infested with jews, but also, their lack of knowledge of practices, or rather, not knowing the Gods very closely, can close their minds off in for example that one can do certain things spiritually. So what they will always conclude is what they already commented.

Such a nasty attitude is unnecessary. They were just asking a question. I asked the exact same and people did tell me it has to do with her privacy, so i understood. But a constant attack mode isnt helpful.

I dislike it that people ask this constantly. It has a reason she wishes this to be private. So ofc I am pissed when some people can not understand this, and ask this naively. Even if someone knew, they should not share this. So why asking this?

But of course, then again, i do respect your devotion and your loyalty to our founder and i do believe you have the right to feel aggravated. But all im saying is please be a little less hostile to people who are joining our cause. Of course, if you have been proven they are infiltrator or jew then go all in i dont care :lol: if you look at my signature you will see that i am working on activism of JoS on instagram and im spreading the word. Thankfully most people who have liked abd followed my account are people who are already into Nazism or left hand path spirituality, so opening their eyes could be a bit easier. It is exactly how i even found JoS and joined this spiritual army, theough a brother on instagram. My aim is to wake as many people up as i possibly can, and i dont want them leaving this place or being discouraged just because someone randomly decided to be rude to them and to feed to their mistrust of this place. But i read the other replies on this topic and i do understand that her privacy is important and we mustn't give the enemy any openings. Ignore my other reply if you want. Hail Satan.

It's disrespectful sometimes to speak against the wishes of people who have always been very private. In a sense, that can be considered sometimes as an attack or disrespect. For example, if "anything" happened to anyone, then I would certainly not want any speculation and bullshit, just for my work to be remembered and for people to know I didn't deviate one day from my purpose.

 

[Mastermind]

all domains are in maxine name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.

That is your personal opinion, not knowledge, and based on low level imagination and other similar things, rather than access to understanding or what we might have planned. In this case, it does not reflect anything but pointless statements.

HPS Maxine would never take anything down, and please do not listen to the ravings of Siatris or anything like this. He says some correct things, but he is overreacting because he gets paranoid and wants to "defend" me while all he does is scream things.

I'm not saying that she'd take it down. She could simply forget to pay for the domain.

Anyway it's good to have backups. If this place were to go dark for unforeseen reasons, where would people go? Wouldn't it be better to instruct them on what to do before disaster strikes?

 

[NinRick]

Such a nasty attitude is unnecessary. They were just asking a question. I asked the exact same and people did tell me it has to do with her privacy, so i understood. But a constant attack mode isnt helpful.

I dislike it that people ask this constantly. It has a reason she wishes this to be private. So ofc I am pissed when some people can not understand this, and ask this naively. Even if someone knew, they should not share this. So why asking this?

Maybe not everyone is checking the forum everyday, week or even months and could miss such discussions and don't use the search function. This questions will not stop. Better ignore it if you don't like than giving such an answer

I find it funny that people get upset all the time when I just state some facts.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

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I'm not saying that she'd take it down. She could simply forget to pay for the domain.
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No, do not worry about any of this. It's all reassured.

 

[Soaring Eagle 666]

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.

That is your personal opinion, not knowledge, and based on low level imagination and other similar things, rather than access to understanding or what we might have planned. In this case, it does not reflect anything but pointless statements.

HPS Maxine would never take anything down, and please do not listen to the ravings of Siatris or anything like this. He says some correct things, but he is overreacting because he gets paranoid and wants to "defend" me while all he does is scream things.

I'm not saying that she'd take it down. She could simply forget to pay for the domain.

Anyway it's good to have backups. If this place were to go dark for unforeseen reasons, where would people go? Wouldn't it be better to instruct them on what to do before disaster strikes?

If anything happens to this forum, the JoS can simply buy a new server and domain and upload the forum database there, and everything will be the same. People would be instructed where to go from one of the main JoS sites, just like when the old prophpbb forums went down. The JoS sites are distributed across many providers, and there is even a Tor site. It would be nearly impossible for them to all go down at once (unless of course the whole internet goes down, in which case this issue becomes moot).

 

[Pumpkin671]

Such a nasty attitude is unnecessary. They were just asking a question. I asked the exact same and people did tell me it has to do with her privacy, so i understood. But a constant attack mode isnt helpful.

I dislike it that people ask this constantly. It has a reason she wishes this to be private. So ofc I am pissed when some people can not understand this, and ask this naively. Even if someone knew, they should not share this. So why asking this?

Maybe not everyone is checking the forum everyday, week or even months and could miss such discussions and don't use the search function. This questions will not stop. Better ignore it if you don't like than giving such an answer

People on here may always answer, might not be as many responses this one got but the answer will come no less.

 

[Anatolian Division]

Friends, I am Pegasus, Thanks for all of the answers. Who are like it or not, you help me very much. I was really understandable while reading. Thank you.

 

[FancyMancy]

Such a nasty attitude is unnecessary. They were just asking a question. I asked the exact same and people did tell me it has to do with her privacy, so i understood. But a constant attack mode isnt helpful.

I dislike it that people ask this constantly. It has a reason she wishes this to be private. So ofc I am pissed when some people can not understand this, and ask this naively. Even if someone knew, they should not share this. So why asking this?

Maybe not everyone is checking the forum everyday, week or even months and could miss such discussions and don't use the search function. This questions will not stop. Better ignore it if you don't like than giving such an answer

That's the nature of forums. It's often a rather lather-rinse-repeat thing.

 

[Dark Blue Eye]

People on here may always answer, might not be as many responses this one got but the answer will come no less.

Some are comments, not answers

 

[FancyMancy]

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Like it or don't like it, HPS Maxine is a celebrity of sorts. Her fame will only increase. People are bound to be curious and want to know more - living vicariously until they learn to live their own lives.

True, and for this reason, be careful of wild or extreme hoaxing. I won't be surprised if people make up lies perpetually about this. The things I have read are not only out of mark, but very wild imaginations. This happens to me even, people have made fake Telegrams [as if I would ever use Telegram after speaking openly against it] and so on, or even impersonate in e-mails.

Since things have been said about HPS Maxine before, I wouldn't be surprised if other things were said in the future, as well. As for you - I seem to recall that I did see something somewhere, which I never mentioned, about you and blah-blah-blah. One of the usual things which has been said about you.

 

[Serbon]

all domains are in maxine name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.

What actually happened here? Did you accidentally reply to siatris but quoted Cobra, since the original post seems to be deleted now?

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

And you know this how exactly?

Show me an organization that follows the Ancient Gods as genuinely and accordingly as we do

 

[Mastermind]

all domains are in maxine name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.

What actually happened here? Did you accidentally reply to siatris but quoted Cobra, since the original post seems to be deleted now?

It looks like I made an error while quoting. I sometimes delete excess quotations to make the overall message short.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Pagans don't lack effective meditations and their awareness, power and advancement aren't negligible because of it.
You can't really compare pagans to established SS either mainly because you don't exactly have a way of gauging the "awareness, power and advancement" of either parties.

If anything this just shows that you're the one that's naive and unaware.

If by pagans you mean practicants of ancient paganism then there are no known `pagans` except of us.

And you know this how exactly?

Sure, you cannot directly test each person, but if you know someone is practicing certain exercises routinely, then you can expect them to develop certain attributes. And, as far as I can tell, most Pagans do not do what is on JOS. Most seem content to post memes on Gab and nothing else.

Even if someone was here on JOS, if they are not practicing properly, then they would be lacking in advanced abilities. So it matters exactly what one is doing with their time.

As far as defining paganism, why would our spirituality be at its limits with mere larping around a campfire, or practicing weak prop-based magic? We are meant to go all the way into the depths of our souls and improve it all. Most Wicca/Pagans don't even touch their chakras.

Therefore, Stormblood is correct in his assessment. Yet, regardless of any of this, nobody has asked why a random Pagan, outside of JOS, has any interest in HPS Maxine at all? Who exactly are these people who have a valuable insight into our community, yet are not even a part of it? What are their names, even?

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Pinged so you can see my response.

 

[Stormblood]

Since there are holes in the story how could one not?

Wanting to keep private about the whole story is not the same has having "holes". If she doesn't want her activity to be known, it's fine. She is entitled to her privacy and no one here is entitled to play paparazzi. It's addiction to social media and gossip circles that makes people feel [wrongly] entitled to know everything about someone else's private life. The truth is you are only entitled to what another person wants to share with you. Nothing more than that.

Pagans don't lack effective meditations and their awareness, power and advancement aren't negligible because of it.
You can't really compare pagans to established SS either mainly because you don't exactly have a way of gauging the "awareness, power and advancement" of either parties.

If anything this just shows that you're the one that's naive and unaware.

Oh, I don't? Says who? Their websites, their books, the "rituals" they conduct and the false knowledge contained in them speaks volumes. And, yes, there are ways to gauge pretty much anything, with varying levels of accuracy depending on how skilled you are.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

I asked you how you came to your conclusion.
Why should i have to show you anything?

If there are no other groups/organizations that do what we do then I can safely state that we are the only genuine Ancient Pagan organization in the world. And there aren't as far as I know, this is how I came to my conclusion.

 

[Siatris Ioholo]

You've been here three days and you think you're making the rules? Stop this air of superiority and learn from members older and more experienced than you! You won't be taken seriously if you propagate nonsense around here.

If you don't apply what I've said you'll stick with your delusions and go down the path of ignorance until you self-destruct! By the way, you're going to piss me off enough.

You have one mouth and two ears to listen more and talk less! Understand what we want to tell you for once and develop your soul.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

"no other groups/organizations that do what we do" You mean that you are aware of right?
If you're not aware of it does it mean that those groups/organizations don't exist?

A lot of people don't believe in demons the astral etc, because they're not aware of it's existence does that mean they can 'safely' state that it doesn't exist?

Those people you are reffering to are mainly people who have realized that they have been manipulated and brainwashed under christianity, islam and other abrahamic affiliate "religions" with non-existent deities and fake hopes, therefore they have taken the path of ignorance by denying whatever cannot be physically proven by the official mainstream science and related, therefore yes from their point of view the Demons and higher levels of existence like astral are not real because they haven't been proven by the mainstream (infiltrated) science. What I am trying to say with this is that you haven't selected the best comparison as it's a whole different matter that entire books can be written about. Why these people don't believe in the existence of Demons and why we do and why the present day science will never prove their existence and so on. Extensive information has been posted and discused both on the Forums and on the Websites about this.

There might be separate people or communities that have been following the Gods like us for a very long time however they might live in closed circles. I heard some theories but I cannot speak since I don't have any evidence to support them. But as established "official" organization of genuine Pagans, I am sure there is none except of us Spiritual Satanists. It would be a general waste (of time, resources, money etc) to have separate organizations following the same Gods, practicing the same meditations, doing the same RTRs and so on. All I've seen on the internet is "Satanic cults" that promote atheistic and christian interpretations of Satanism, which have nothing to do with Ancient Paganism.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

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Having all things consolidated into 1 huge group never ended well.
There's a saying "it was a feather and broke the camel's back"

That's why many huge empires compartmentalized their land into smaller provinces ruled by dukes and then those provinces where divided up even more and were ruled by barons/counts etc..
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That is called organization and not the nonsense you are here to promote deceitfully a breakdown of the main group, after literally 7 days of being in the forum under a bogus account.

The thing you call a "huge group" is already greatly organized, and this organization expands.

In regards to "Covens", you appear to also have zero experience, considering every gathering of certain people to be a "Coven". Covens are so serious, and it's rare or impossible for them to survive, because simply leadership and members are of a lesser quality most of the time.

You are also clearly here to procure confusion and you don't appear to want to take certain things at their real value. For example, yes, there is no other Pagan organization that is real and does what JoS does, all of them are a joke. What a few people think they are doing in a basement is also a viable judgement of things.

In regards to levels of advancement, we could cite from ideology, to development, to reach, to a lot of other factors that can measure something up. It really is very simple.

You are here for example citing your value which is only certified by your own immature and foolish comments, and use the usual meme that "Clergy is here for support only" and "Satan is my daddy" because of lack of having anything to show or having to actually point to something.

That is also a favorite line of infiltrators, which they commonly use to undermine any point other people might have to say, using it deceitfully to pretend there is no hierarchy or true judgement and that it's all "between themselves and Satan". That is an illogical argument too.

What the enemy does with perpetual creation of mushroom groups is just a huge waste of time and is a repetitive attack by the enemies, either against JoS, or even against our broader worldview of Paganism. Whether or not this is claimed through covens or a very nonsense based group this is ending up to the same end.

Covens, on the other hand, still remain and are part of JoS. But it is more often than not they malfunction because of poor quality of members and other issues, which is also true for any congregation for that matter.

 

[Jrvan]

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You're talking about Freemasons and the like who kept things going. That's not ordinary pagans, and especially not the confused neo-pagans of today. The neo-pagans are so lost and confused that some of them even go for the jewish propaganda about pagans and end up practicing animal sacrifice like retards.

Listening to sun sign horoscopes, playing with tarot cards, collecting herbs, and having witchy bumper stickers doesn't put one on the level of the Freemasons, KKK, Thule Society, and other orders who were closer to what the JoS does. That's what most "pagans" do these days... it's pretty much just a fad for people who don't have a social identity, like LGBT. I doubt that very many of them know how to visit the Underworld. And if they were keeping the culture and traditions alive then why don't I see Maypoles anymore or anything else? White people haven't done any of that for a while now. The best we have right now is Halloween.

Oh and the mainstream corrupted "occult" is all over the internet and has been for a while. Anyone can read about Thelema and other brain dead bullshit. Anyone can be a "witch" these days. Just like the jews want for Gentiles to be into misguided enemy paths.

 

[Jrvan]

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Aldric?

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Listen boy, i'm an SS, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

"no other groups/organizations that do what we do" You mean that you are aware of right?
If you're not aware of it does it mean that those groups/organizations don't exist?

Of course, they are referring to only what they are aware of. If there is some secret, advanced groups helping our fight, then that is great news. Yet, what defines their advancement would be the type of energy work that they carry out. So, this is measurable. Their power will speak for itself.

Yet, Satanism also needs to go mainstream, and that is why JoS is publically available. These unknown groups you are referring to are limited in their scope, in comparison. Yet, most known Pagan groups do not demonstrate that they understand or implement occult principles. If you see an example of the contrary, please share.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Did you people honestly think that after what happened in the dark ages that pagans with spiritual power would just be seen and known out in the open?
Do you all even know what happened in the dark ages?

Are you aware that xian churches hunted down anyone that was even suspected of doing witchcraft and proceeded to kill or torture them.
The churches also burnt all grimoires, texts and libraries containing spiritual knowledge they could get their hands on to stop the spread of spiritual knowledge.

So did you really expect anyone who was into the occult to just be open about their practices and make it public?
it's called the 'occult' for a reason.

Those 'pagans' that you all are so keen to look down on were not fools.
They went into hiding, they hid spiritual allegories in the ancient mythos, folk lore, and other things that can some times be hidden in plain sight.
It's pretty logical to assume they also hide in plain sight too appearing to be an everyday ordinary person.
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Please understand that we are not trying to attack any people who are making genuine advancements for the Gentile race.
Yes, we understand the context with the enemy and occult knowledge.

This whole argument started over a reference to some unknown group of people, who may or may not be advanced. As you mention, not all JoS members are advancing properly, nor are all Pagan members. We don't disagree here.

I believe you and I are both trying to defend the same concept of spiritual advancement, but due to Mercury retrograde or other miscommunications, this is becoming a hostile debate.

I fully accept that there are people working secretly to advance our cause. Yet, there are also people who act in name only. I am trying to make sure that everyone advances properly, whether they are here on JoS or belong to some outside group.

 

[Kokusz]

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Listen boy, i'm an SS, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Hoodedcobra because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

 

[Henu the Great]

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There definitely are higher ups and more will come up as we go on. How is this news to you? Age of Aquarius does not mean that there would not be hierarchy, or in other words, expierenced and wise on the top.

You might want to re-read the english language version of Al Jiwah as the excerpts that Blitzkreig took are in there.

 

[Demonic]

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There definitely are higher ups and more will come up as we go on. How is this news to you? Age of Aquarius does not mean that there would not be hierarchy, or in other words, expierenced and wise on the top.

You might want to re-read the english language version of Al Jiwah as the excerpts that Blitzkreig took are in there.

I dont see anything wrong with listening to the knowledge and obeying the knowledge of someone who has Satan trusted Himself.

Also,they arent dictating whatever they like, their goals are in accord to Satan Himself.

 

[Dahaarkan]

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Listen boy, i'm an SS, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

The leaders appointed by the sovereign are not yet revealed and one should be careful when using Satan's words as a tool of obtaining influence. No true Satanist will have blind faith in any persons for obvious reasons.

Considering also clergy has been compromised in the past there will never be blind faith in online authority figures going forward and this is as it should be. Satan in this instance is not speaking of usernames on the internet but of gods and ascendants whose power and wisdom is apparent and undeniable, who are in service to His designs. Satan here is speaking of souls such as Adolf Hitler for example, not xXxAngelSlayer666xXx on telegram.


Kikeson was an important lesson in blind faith and how one should not and MUST not follow blindly just because one is in a fabricated position of hierarchy. True hierarchy is undeniable and requires no fabricated ranks, titles or other vague descriptions.

Anybody can claim to be anything online. One can make a new account and claim to be very advanced and experienced. Or one could have the title of high priest and actually be a kike infiltrator. Just because one claims something about themselves does not make it true.

One's position in true hierarchy is self evident and requires no explanation. Your position in said hierarchy is also known to those who have the eyes to see things clearly. You need not explain it to anybody. As those who do not understand these things fully may see it as a vicious attempt to gain influence over them.

 

[luis]

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Listen boy, i'm an SS, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Hoodedcobra because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

You can do whatever you want in life but there are always going to be more advanced people than you that will know better. You don't need to "obey" them but you will understand if they are more advanced and so they will understand things better than you.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Hoodedcobra because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

I think you are reacting drastically to something that is not, in reality, as limiting as you may believe. All this statement is saying is that Satan wants you to listen to those who carry out his will. If he sends a Demon to you, which tells you that you need to start working on your throat chakra, will you interpret this negatively?

What about those who worked with HPS Maxine and Cobra to develop the RTRs, including telling us that we need to be diligent with them? Similarly, HPS Maxine was asked to be strict with both her studies and meditation routine. Now, we all enjoy the fruits of her labor because of that task being fulfilled. All of this has increased your freedom, not limited it.

In regards to an anonymous forum, we know that the Clergy themselves are appointed and supported by the Gods. As far as me or others, then I don't believe you need to listen to them. By the way, JoS did not write the Al-Jiwah. It was dictated by others many centuries ago.

If it has caused you such stress that you are considering abandoning everyone here, then you should reach out to Satan to give you a better explanation of what his own words are supposed to mean, rather than go through with destructive and isolating actions.

 

[Henu the Great]

Kikeson was an important lesson in blind faith and how one should not and MUST not follow blindly just because one is in a fabricated position of hierarchy. True hierarchy is undeniable and requires no fabricated ranks, titles or other vague descriptions.

Mageson was played by our side greatly. I do not deny his corrosive influence, but let's not also forget that he provided us with exposingkabbalah and other similar material.

 

[Dypet Rod]

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Listen boy, i'm an SS, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Hoodedcobra because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

If it weren't for the works of at least two "faceless, anonymous" individuals (HPS Maxine and the person who translated the JoS to Hungarian), then how would you even have been able to read the JoS in Hungarian at all?

When you read the JoS, this is already a way of submitting to servants of Satan on earth. You just misinterpreted how this submission happens.

Satan is above all individuals, sure. But the descendants of Satan are numerous, so even He needs the managing help of other Gods and humans to help His wish be carried out. As Blitskrieg said, would you also take offense in the fact that each of us has their own Guardian?

 

[NinRick]

" post_id=356189 time=1652953667 user_id=21286]


Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Hoodedcobra because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

You can do whatever you want in life but there are always going to be more advanced people than you that will know better. You don't need to "obey" them but you will understand if they are more advanced and so they will understand things better than you.

Father Satan was referring to the Demons.
When the Demons come to confirmed spiritual Satanists, the come on the behalf of Satan, they are fully of Satan.
The Demons are those who teach us of the hidden things, they are our Guides, Masters and Gods, so of course we have to obey them, as they guide us in pur evolution.

When the Demons come to us they come in Satan‘s Name and on Satan‘s behalf. They are like Satan‘s extensions, they are all fully aligned with Satan‘s will, so shall we be and obey Satan and his Demons.

 

[Bravera]

Her job is complete. Now it's your job to do the rest with the movement that she started in your own life.

This are very nice words.

There's a reason the God's physically left us many thousands of years ago, to advance on our own.
We have to look at what is Natural for a Human Being on planet Earth. What is Natural even for a Mammal or Arachnid or any living specimen. It is to survive, live, reproduce, but also for the individual to protect itself from the outside world.

The epidermis of the skin, the Cell Walls, White blood Cells, etc. We are meant to be independent, even in our spiritual work and our minds. This body is our sanctuary, this soul is our true home. I regard this spiritual soul, as the God's themselves residing within me. They have said clearly, we do not need anything outside of ourselves. Remove the curses, and this biological being that we are, along with the gifted soul powers, we will achieve Homeostasis. And will naturally advance towards the God's.

And as you say, Maxine has been the Mentor and Mother to Thousands of SS that are growing more empowered Daily. She is one women that needs to direct her energy towards her most important tasks.

Honestly, this is a most wonderful thing to understand that she has become so successful at her goal, that she is able to work on other priorities.

 

[Kokusz]

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WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Hoodedcobra because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

I think you are reacting drastically to something that is not, in reality, as limiting as you may believe. All this statement is saying is that Satan wants you to listen to those who carry out his will. If he sends a Demon to you, which tells you that you need to start working on your throat chakra, will you interpret this negatively?

What about those who worked with HPS Maxine and Cobra to develop the RTRs, including telling us that we need to be diligent with them? Similarly, HPS Maxine was asked to be strict with both her studies and meditation routine. Now, we all enjoy the fruits of her labor because of that task being fulfilled. All of this has increased your freedom, not limited it.

In regards to an anonymous forum, we know that the Clergy themselves are appointed and supported by the Gods. As far as me or others, then I don't believe you need to listen to them. By the way, JoS did not write the Al-Jiwah. It was dictated by others many centuries ago.

If it has caused you such stress that you are considering abandoning everyone here, then you should reach out to Satan to give you a better explanation of what his own words are supposed to mean, rather than go through with destructive and isolating actions.

You are using a quote from a text that was written ages ago to justify yourself as an unquestionable authority for us. It’s like you want Athenria to recognise you in those lines. This attitude reminds me of Christianity.

I don’t understand why going independently seen as destructive and isolating. JoS is not the only and single source of the occult knowledge, it never was. There is knowledge everywhere and our advancement is not up to one website. I wrote that I am leaving is to give feedback. People are leaving this site.

For the readers: Guys, you don’t have to follow every person who calms to be more advanced than you as your authority/spiritual leader/guru…etc.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

You are using a quote from a text that was written ages ago to justify yourself as an unquestionable authority for us. It’s like you want Athenria to recognise you in those lines. This attitude reminds me of Christianity.

I don’t understand why going independently seen as destructive and isolating. JoS is not the only and single source of the occult knowledge, it never was. There is knowledge everywhere and our advancement is not up to one website. I wrote that I am leaving is to give feedback. People are leaving this site.

For the readers: Guys, you don’t have to follow every person who calms to be more advanced than you as your authority/spiritual leader/guru…etc.

From where comes the desire to project your fallacies on others?

Where are any members acting as infallible guru's who must be listened to, or who are said to be an infallible authority on matters?

This is purely within your imagination, because you take literally the words of the Al-Jiwah and fail to understand the intended message, due to your pre conceived notions about the written words blinding you from the true meaning.


Do you see anyone saying that the Joy of Satan is the only source of occult knowledge? The Joy of Satan never claims this.

What we do claim however, and what is proven true for all of us who make attainments on the spiritual path, is that the Joy of Satan is the only source of uncorrupted and unadulterated Spiritual knowledge and wisdom, which leads to the straight path without a book.

Even so, one is free to dabble in other things, however we cannot recommend or support this, as it is clear it will either bring you back to the JoS after years of wasted time, or it will lead to a downfall in delusion.

People here who have made attainments of wisdom and spiritual practice have ability to educate others on their experience and knowledge. This is only natural, and it happens like this in every field.

People advising you based on their experience and knowledge acquired through effort and dedication to the SS path under guidance of the Gods is not the same as someone throwing around statements to try and justify themselves as an unquestionable authority.

This is really only your imagination, nowhere does blitz, or even HP HoodedCobra do this.

Neither the other JG's, or other members with greater than the average understanding on things like NakedPluto or myself.

None of us act as infallible guru's, or unquestionable authority. However we do on almost all things speak truth, especially HP HoodedCobra.

The reason why he is respected by us, is because his words proof themselves to be worth listening to, due to them proving to be true and valuable time and time again. He is not respected for having his title, but he has his title because he is proven worthy of it.

This is why Magestein was not respected by many of us, especially those of us who could see through his facade or found fault with him, and did challenge him despite his title, and in the end were proven right to do so.

He is no longer here because of his inferior actions, and even malicious intent to subvert Spiritual Satanism into a pseudo xianity and his blatant attempts to destroy the JoS from within through slander, deceit and defamation of Spiritual Satanism.

Through his actions he proved himself as worthless as a sack of unrecyclable garbage.


Here it is through merit that people gain respect and their word gains authority.

Those proven to be more knowledgeable than others on subjects, helpful in their advice and service to the SS community, advanced spiritually through their understanding of spiritual advancement in their posts and answers to others, etc, are the people whose word gains weight due to its proven value.

This is how respect is earned, and why it is natural for people to recognize them as betters on those fields and learn from them what they can or what they appreciate, be inspired to act and grow, etc.

None of this is anything like xianity whatsoever, and you cannot find it elsewhere online or in the world with the same quality and competence as one finds it here for anything spiritual and occult related.


Many have tried, usually before they found the JoS.

Or they tried to do so after, which never lead anywhere for those who tried, as they lost sight of the path and the wisdom of the Gods, favoring their personal delusions and convictions before it.


Have you ever tried to approach Satan earnestly? To understand him, to ask him, to learn from him?

Try it earnestly. Do the absolution ritual with earnest intent, especially when you say the lines:

"Satan, deliver me from all past error and delusion, fill me with wisdom and understanding, keep me strong in my faith and service, that I may abide always in Thee with praise. Honor and glory be given Thee forever and ever."


Do you think somehow this is xian in nature? To praise Him, and ask him to deliver you from past error and delusion? To ask Him to keep you strong in your faith and service?

If so, all the more reason to do this ritual. As it means one has a fundamental misunderstanding on the nature of Spiritual Satanism, which extends in your perception of "authority" from those more advanced than yourself.


What do you think SS is? And what do you wish to gain from it? What do you think anyone is trying to keep from you, or take away from you by sharing their thoughts, knowledge and wisdom?


To gain wisdom of your own, begins by acknowledging where you stand objectively on this path, which means understanding the worth of advice and wisdom given by others, as well as acknowledging reality and truth are bigger than ones own perceived notions of these.

Hail Satan!

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

" post_id=356233 time=1652964629 user_id=21286]

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done.

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Hoodedcobra because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

I think you are reacting drastically to something that is not, in reality, as limiting as you may believe. All this statement is saying is that Satan wants you to listen to those who carry out his will. If he sends a Demon to you, which tells you that you need to start working on your throat chakra, will you interpret this negatively?

What about those who worked with HPS Maxine and Cobra to develop the RTRs, including telling us that we need to be diligent with them? Similarly, HPS Maxine was asked to be strict with both her studies and meditation routine. Now, we all enjoy the fruits of her labor because of that task being fulfilled. All of this has increased your freedom, not limited it.

In regards to an anonymous forum, we know that the Clergy themselves are appointed and supported by the Gods. As far as me or others, then I don't believe you need to listen to them. By the way, JoS did not write the Al-Jiwah. It was dictated by others many centuries ago.

If it has caused you such stress that you are considering abandoning everyone here, then you should reach out to Satan to give you a better explanation of what his own words are supposed to mean, rather than go through with destructive and isolating actions.

You are using a quote from a text that was written ages ago to justify yourself as an unquestionable authority for us. It’s like you want Athenria to recognise you in those lines. This attitude reminds me of Christianity.

I don’t understand why going independently seen as destructive and isolating. JoS is not the only and single source of the occult knowledge, it never was. There is knowledge everywhere and our advancement is not up to one website. I wrote that I am leaving is to give feedback. People are leaving this site.

For the readers: Guys, you don’t have to follow every person who calms to be more advanced than you as your authority/spiritual leader/guru…etc.

Bye, I personally don't care about who leaves, as you were never here regardless. It breathes between the lines every failure and dissonance, and it is contained within the contents of your post and attitude.

You are a straw man. Nobody used any authority or superiority on you, yet you are crying your weak self out of your expectation of such, which in reality never comes. Authority is received when one handles it, had it or achieves it, therefore in all your extra website studies and life in general, did not found any power within you to wield or to judge. Same applies to all these larpers and weak individuals who think their opinion or low existence view matters.

How can you understand superiority when you don't even see it, but even have an opinion of manifestation of it or how reality works.

Humble yourself and advance. Doing three farts in your spare time while imagining the world is due to your conquering, while you do not conquer even yourself to have a good night sleep or a beautiful life, is remnants of a dissonant and mediocre existence. But oh "we" have claims of superiority, much xianity.

And also you should understand what VoE tells you, regardless it is pretty sad that there's a need to detail so simple and natural understanding that every one knows it, at least by an emotional intelligence and healthy lifestyle. To sumrise this is a defining vector of those who advance or not. It is basic human respect and life experience that is lacking in all of these weak individuals, as they haven't meet it in life.