What happened to High Priest Vovim Baghie? Where is he now?

[Thersthara]

I recently found a pdf book by High Priest Vovim Baghie and it contains really extensive and beautiful information. According to what he explains in the book, he has raised the kundalini and talks about all its stages and his own experiences.

He has a really detailed explanation about the moment his kundalini awakens, the moment it rises, and the feelings he experiences. So who is this High Priest Vovim Baghie? can we trust him? Is he one of the High Priests who betrayed? Why did he leave JoS? Can what he said and his book be considered real?

Another thing that caught my attention about him and his writings is that he puts the suffix sama at the end of the gods (like Azazel-Sama). I am aware that Sama is a Japanese honorific suffix, but it made me lose the seriousness in the writings. The things described in the articles are really interesting, but they seem like they were written by a 50-year-old anime watcher.

The main point I'm curious about. Can we trust this pdf book? Are the experiences he describes valid? Can this former high priest be trusted?

 

[HPS Lydia]

He got into drugs. That's why he is no longer here. It's been written about many times before.

His PDF is pretty good (probably written before he started drugs), a few meditations there I always recommended. The elemental AoP, for example.

I also disliked the "sama" part, because people should stay with their own culture.

 

[SeguaceDiSatanas]

He got into drugs. That's why he is no longer here. It's been written about many times before.

His PDF is pretty good (probably written before he started drugs), a few meditations there I always recommended. The elemental AoP, for example.

I also disliked the "sama" part, because people should stay with their own culture.

Greetings HPS Lydia, do you also recommend the invocation part (page 15)? I would like to try it, it might help me understand some things. Is it a good method? THANK YOU!

 

[HPS Lydia]

Greetings HPS Lydia, do you also recommend the invocation part (page 15)? I would like to try it, it might help me understand some things. Is it a good method? THANK YOU!

Yes. That's actually the method I use, I had forgotten it was from his PDF, I thought it was in the JoS somewhere.

You might not need that much time (he says 10-20 minutes) to get into a deep trance, depends on your skill with trance.

I'd recommend doing the Summoning first, and then when the God is there, do the invocation. It might take years of spiritual advancement to get to the level of being able to invoke them. And some people have barriers up due to a subconscious feeling of discomfort of the thought of a God entering into them. Invoking is a very personal thing to happen. You need to trust Them, and trust that they will not invade your privacy.

 

[SeguaceDiSatanas]

Yes. That's actually the method I use, I had forgotten it was from his PDF, I thought it was in the JoS somewhere.

You might not need that much time (he says 10-20 minutes) to get into a deep trance, depends on your skill with trance.

I'd recommend doing the Summoning first, and then when the God is there, do the invocation. It might take years of spiritual advancement to get to the level of being able to invoke them. And some people have barriers up due to a subconscious feeling of discomfort of the thought of a God entering into them. Invoking is a very personal thing to happen. You need to trust Them, and trust that they will not invade your privacy.

Thank you, really. You are truly very kind and sincerely helpful!

 

[JeraOpus]

He got into drugs. That's why he is no longer here. It's been written about many times before.

His PDF is pretty good (probably written before he started drugs), a few meditations there I always recommended. The elemental AoP, for example.

I also disliked the "sama" part, because people should stay with their own culture.

If he wrote the book before he raised his kundalini, then he activated his pineal gland and wouldn't require drugs (at least not marijuana).
I believe when kundalini is raised, then all the blockages of chakras and nadies are eliminated, and those who have raised it are less likely to come under the influence or effects of drugs.

Take the example of Neem Karoli Baba. He took a bunch of LSD and didn't get high. Ram Das was surprised to see it. He could also read thoughts and told Ram Das, 'When Ram Das was looking at the sky at night' [Neem Karoli said: You remember your mother when you look at sky]. It was on point.

Someone also noticed Neem Karoli Baba during his meditation; snakes (Physical ones) were crawling over his body when he was in Dhyan.

 

[Henu the Great]

If he wrote the book before he raised his kundalini, then he activated his pineal gland and wouldn't require drugs (at least not marijuana).
I believe when kundalini is raised, then all the blockages of chakras and nadies are eliminated, and those who have raised it are less likely to come under the influence or effects of drugs.

Take the example of Neem Karoli Baba. He took a bunch of LSD and didn't get high. Ram Das was surprised to see it. He could also read thoughts and told Ram Das, 'When Ram Das was looking at the sky at night' [Neem Karoli said: You remember your mother when you look at sky]. It was on point.

Someone also noticed Neem Karoli Baba during his meditation; snakes (Physical ones) were crawling over his body when he was in Dhyan.

Just for your information "Ram Das" is a jew... You would know it if you read his book "Be Here Now". So that being said, there are many misconceptions in his book(s?) and I would set him aside entirely.

 

[JeraOpus]

Just for your information "Ram Das" is a jew... You would know it if you read his book "Be Here Now". So that being said, there are many misconceptions in his book(s?) and I would set him aside entirely.

I didn’t know about it..
But it does explain one thing- whenever someone advances spiritually and goes public then jews will try to get close to them, learn about them, may pretend they were close to a spiritually advance master and then spread false info.

But it also doesn’t change that Neem karoli baba took a bunch of lsd and didn’t get high or lost his control and other powers he had.

 

[JeraOpus]

I didn’t know about it..
But it does explain one thing- whenever someone advances spiritually and goes public then jews will try to get close to them, learn about them, may pretend they were close to a spiritually advance master and then spread false info.

But it also doesn’t change that Neem karoli baba took a bunch of lsd and didn’t get high or lost his control and other powers he had.

So there are three scenarios i can think of for HP who raised his serpent.

1. He did raise his serpent but was somehow still weak to get under the influence of drugs (I don’t know if it’s possible)
2. He raise the serpent but false info about them getting into drugs is being spread.
3. He didn’t raise his serpent but was faking the experience in the book.

There can be more scenarios, and it’s also bot necessary that everyone will go through the same experience.

My personal experience was uncontrollable sexual urge when my nadis were burning, it was cooled down when the energies hit reached right to the right brain (Ida nadi). And constant sexual fluids generating and flowing inside body through path ways, and once the whole body is engulfed in that cool energy the serpent ascends so that there’s no friction. (You can try to force the serpent to rise but it won’t stay at top for long and when it descends it will be painful, and keeping on trying to make it ascend without everything open, clean and unblocked will only bring more unnecessary pain again and again).
Serpent and energies are hot (If you have control over the nadis through intent then you can move/change/switch the pattern of energies and the energies will bring out the dross and clean the nadis whereever they go).
So yes what’s written on JoS about moving the emergies at light speed or fast is true.

Can people lead normal life and still be hardcore meditators, I think not-
1. The dross
2. Repressed feelings/anger
3. Subconscious trash.
4. Sexual urges.
5. Over thinking. (You cannot tell youself to not think without distancing yourself from the mind)
You can feel think that you won’t think but external situations will still control you until and unless you have control over the energies, and knowing does different parts of soul function when awareness/energies are there.
I believe if your awareness is more on prana rather than making sense of thoughts or trying to switch thoughts off will work more in your favour.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

I read a bit of the book about the serpent.
I didn't put belief in it because what it details is a lot of exacerbated suffering.
Even gopi krishna who was suspected didn't suffer all that, I began to wonder why Satan would allow someone with such a dirty soul to climb the serpent.

I felt like I was reading Hindu crap