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FancyMancy said:
No, it's literally patriarchy. I exercise patriarchal authority over my own household.
I notice you left that for me to infer... that you'd hope I'd ask the following question - "The Wife has no say?! Art thou jewish in thine thinking?!" Aww, damn it. I bit! Lol.

Hey, if she wants to let our child mutilate their body then I'd say her brain is pretty jewed too :lol:

For a serious matter of contemplation rather than jesting, however: I believe acting in a patriarch role is fine when the woman gives the man her trust. She has to trust him enough to grant him authority for it to be healthy, imo. If someone messes up in their role as patriarch then of course the wife should speak up about it, and knock some sense into him if necessary. Conversely, if the man is required by circumstances and necessity to play such a role then it's usually considered bad not to play it. Sadly, a lot of men these days don't know anymore how to fit into that role even when it is necessary for them, and such men often receive shame from others even if it's not voiced. Failure to play a role can have unfortunate consequences for everyone involved, especially where a child's development is concerned.
 
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Lunar Dance 666 said:
Meteor said:
Sorry for spamming the thread so much. I just wanted to say that I was able to make significant progress today, in multiple regards. Thank you again for the advice. It was painful at first, but I feel as though a heavy burden has been lifted, and I feel strangely vulnerable, but I think that's better than being detached all the time. I know things can't be fully solved instantly, so I'll keep it up every day.

Working with earth helped me realise something. I know I can't help certain things about the way I am. But I understand now why lately I've been feeling like I want to be a man as well, rather than just a woman. I've occasionally had urges to bind my chest, or to work out really hard and try to get muscular, but I didn't because I knew deep down that it wouldn't really help, because I'd only be covering up a symptom rather than solving the underlying issue. And I understand now that the reason why I had those urges is because I've been feeling somewhat powerless, and I associated masculinity with power.

But today I realised that there are other ways to be powerful too. For example, the very sight of my body is powerful in terms of what it can induce. And my fiancé said my brain is pretty powerful too, since I'm quite smart. Based on that, I think what I might need is to find ways in which I can be powerful that suit me better than stereotypical masculinity. I think it's fitting that I realised that by working with earth, since it's considered a feminine element, yet very steadfast and strong. It may really be what I needed this whole time.

Just doing some physical exercise feels great. You don't have to bulk up as a man.. and surprisingly dancing is a lot of physical exercise..
you wouldn't know if you hadn't thought about it or ever watched an interview with a pro.

Professional dancers dance at least 6 hours (almost) every single day. Perfecting moves, learning routines, learning new moves, keeping the body in top shape condition.
Its a lot of hard work.
Without the going to a gym and bulking up.
If you get the urge to go outside and run a mile or two, indulge.
Not because its masculine or whatever (or feminine, a lot of women also run miles regurlarly), but because it is what feels right to do for you and (most likely) your body at that point in time.
It's funny that you mention that; I actually danced just the other day since I really felt like exercising after all. I'm too shy to dance in front of others nowadays, but when I'm listening to music on my own, before I know it, I find myself just freestyling to the beat until my heart is beating quickly.

I don't think I could do it for 6 hours a day though, I'd feel exhausted. Maybe if I dance more slowly? Not that I have the time to dance that much anyway, but I suppose spending that much time doing it is what it means to be a professional.

I recall you asked me since when I felt like I wanted to be normal, and I said 3 years old, since that's when I started socialising, and I always wanted to be a part of the group. But it was actually when I was 7 years old that I really began to restrain myself just for the sake of seeming "normal". Before that, I would occasionally dance even in front of others.

For example, when I was 6 years old and at a restaurant with my parents, and a band was playing music on a stage, I walked onto the stage and danced to the music in front of the crowd. Rather than being told to go away, I stayed there until the end of the song and bowed as the crowd applauded a bit louder than they did after the previous song. I was intending to dance to the next song as well since it was so much fun, but then my parents called me over because the food had arrived at the table.

And when I was 9, I heard a classmate was attending a ballet class. I asked what that is, and it sounded so cool. I asked my parents if I could do that as well. My mom asked me if I was sure, since it's all girls there, to which I said I don't see any reason why a boy can't do it. By then I was already starting to feel worn out by trying so hard to seem "normal" in front of my classmates, so I figured I could just ask that classmate to keep it a secret.

Being very easygoing in letting me do whatever I wanted, my parents actually tried to sign me up for that class. But the application was rejected, since all the other students were girls, and "a boy being among them might make them uncomfortable and interfere with the class". I was so disappointed; I just wanted to make cool poses and dance. Have you seen it before? It looks almost like yoga. Well, I get it though. I heard there are actually many professional male ballet dancers, but unfortunately there weren't any classes that allowed boys near where I lived.

I hadn't really considered this before, but maybe there are tutorials for it online? It would give me some more structure to my dancing, as opposed to my usual freestyling. I'll look it up.

As for running, I like it during the summer, but during other seasons the cold air tends to hurt my lungs, so I don't like it very much. And when I do go out for a run, I usually do it on such a whim that I run without a care until I'm tired, and then it's unpleasant to walk all the way back home while already feeling exhausted. I suppose planning a route beforehand would fix that though.

To be honest.. young children are VERY aware of their surroundings, since that is what they learn from.. It is not unthinkable or abnormal to want to be like others do at that age.
My mom told me that I didn't want to be dressed in a costume for carnaval when I was 4 years old. If you've never taken your child to see it or explain such a thing to them.. or include them into that.. what do you think will happen?
Also, this was her view. Not mine.

I actually did take classical ballet classes when I was younger. And I tried to do a spreekbeurt on it but I just got laughed at and made fun of at the end of the class. I knew this was a likely possibility, but even so I wanted to share what I enjoyed to do.
People said it was "not even a sport" ... if you look at charts of athletical fitness compared side by side, dancers score about as high as people that do gymnastics.
Looking at professionals, that is.

And true. I think the membranes of my airways are not strong enough to do prolonged running. The last couple of sporadic times that I went I could taste blood. Not great.

You don't have to do classical ballet only (if that is what you were talking about) but you could also do dances like the tango, charleston, quick-step and the like. These do involve a partner so if you wanted to try dancing with yours you could give that a go?
Personally I want to learn more about different kinds of dances right now.. doing that one thing.. its great but I love rock and metal way too much and classical just ends up being "bleh" after some time.
 
Meteor said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Meteor said:
To be honest.. young children are VERY aware of their surroundings, since that is what they learn from.. It is not unthinkable or abnormal to want to be like others do at that age.
My mom told me that I didn't want to be dressed in a costume for carnaval when I was 4 years old. If you've never taken your child to see it or explain such a thing to them.. or include them into that.. what do you think will happen?
Also, this was her view. Not mine.

I actually did take classical ballet classes when I was younger. And I tried to do a spreekbeurt on it but I just got laughed at and made fun of at the end of the class. I knew this was a likely possibility, but even so I wanted to share what I enjoyed to do.
People said it was "not even a sport" ... if you look at charts of athletical fitness compared side by side, dancers score about as high as people that do gymnastics.
Looking at professionals, that is.

And true. I think the membranes of my airways are not strong enough to do prolonged running. The last couple of sporadic times that I went I could taste blood. Not great.

You don't have to do classical ballet only (if that is what you were talking about) but you could also do dances like the tango, charleston, quick-step and the like. These do involve a partner so if you wanted to try dancing with yours you could give that a go?
Personally I want to learn more about different kinds of dances right now.. doing that one thing.. its great but I love rock and metal way too much and classical just ends up being "bleh" after some time.
I like many kinds of music, and I'm sure there's other kinds of dance that are more suitable for other kinds of music, as you mentioned. It's just that classical ballet came to mind first since I didn't get to do that in my childhood.

I've been looking for ways to get my partner to exercise more (he's in good health, but I think it would be good on the long term), so I could use wanting to dance with him as an excuse to get him to. And even if it's not enough to count as exercise, I'm sure it'll be fun. That might even help me over my shyness about dancing, since he'd be doing it too. Thank you for the suggestion :)

Have you seen a doctor for the issues with your airways? I have sensitive airways too, but not to the extent of bleeding. If you can work around it, then maybe it's fine. It's not like there's always a medical explanation for such things anyway, but you might want to check it.

I think as a child I was simultaneously aware and an airhead; I'd often say things I wasn't supposed to know. People started telling me to think before I speak, but as a result I would hardly speak at all anymore. It's important to keep a balance.

My parents had a rule that I was supposed to play a sport at least once a week. I tried various sports, but didn't like any of them very much. That's when I heard someone say chess is a sport, and I managed to convince my parents to sign me up for a chess club and let that count as playing a sport for the rule. My brother complained that chess isn't a real sport, but my parents didn't care. It's probably just that there weren't any other sports clubs left nearby that I hadn't tried yet.

There was a boy there whom I often played against, since we were at about the same level. He looked like he was about 6 years old, but he had a lot of knowledge about the game and would often make fun of my non-standard moves, only to fall right into a trap he didn't expect and lose the game. Other times, my non-standard moves really did put me at a disadvantage, and I lost. We were fairly evenly matched. I wondered how such a young boy knew so much about "standard moves"; "maybe he's a prodigy?"

Looking to pry, I said: "You're really good at this for your age." "You too, how old are you?" "10. How about you?" "I'm 14." "Huh?"
I was confused for several minutes, but then his tiny mother came to pick him up, and it clicked: he wasn't a prodigy, but a dwarf!

Out of curiosity, I looked up the definition of a sport: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." Going by that definition, my brother was correct and chess isn't a real sport, since it doesn't involve physical exertion (imagine if someone made a really big board where each piece weighs 50kg :lol:).

As for dancing, I think it's often used as an art form, without competition, in which case it's not a sport. But if there are multiple groups or individuals dancing and they are rated by a group of judges, then it's a competition, and therefore a sport. But regardless of whether it's done competitively or not, it's certainly good exercise! My brother had a much better argument than your classmates.

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Haha, true. In classical ballet there is a lot of competetion in singing up with a ballet company, and at that, to dance the main solo role.
It is not a typical competition environment.

There is also modern ballet. And there are (inter)national ballet days. You can look up routines or lessons they do for such a day on youtube, if you're interested.

I also know someone on youtube that gives instructions on how to do the moves or how to improve them, I can email who this is, if you'd like to.
Nowadays there are also more men going on pointe, but there are not enough shoes and going on pointe is something only a teacher can decide, if you are ready for it.

There are many forms of dance, not just the above or what I mentioned before.. there's folk dance, line dance, tap dance, (the examples I gave were from stijldansen), the hiphop stuff (or breakdancing maybe) / hardcore club dance stuff / pole dancing ... in short, there's a lot.
 
Meteor said:
My parents had a rule that I was supposed to play a sport at least once a week. I tried various sports, but didn't like any of them very much. That's when I heard someone say chess is a sport, and I managed to convince my parents to sign me up for a chess club and let that count as playing a sport for the rule. My brother complained that chess isn't a real sport, but my parents didn't care. It's probably just that there weren't any other sports clubs left nearby that I hadn't tried yet.
We, as a species, need physical exercise. Once a week is not much, but better than being unactive all the time. Honestly the once a week statement is so "normie" considering the lack of fitness that most people exhibit nowadays... Average person will run out of breath on a mile run. Most if not all people more intune with their male energies will agree that we need exercising more or less daily. The amount and intensity will vary a lot depening on multiple factors such as being competetive or simply trying to maintain some baseline for health and so on.

Chess is definitely a sport, but not the same way as utilising cardiovascular system or building stronger ligaments or anything of the sort. It is a mental task, and will do good for the brain, but not much else.
 
Henu the Great said:
Meteor said:
My parents had a rule that I was supposed to play a sport at least once a week. I tried various sports, but didn't like any of them very much. That's when I heard someone say chess is a sport, and I managed to convince my parents to sign me up for a chess club and let that count as playing a sport for the rule. My brother complained that chess isn't a real sport, but my parents didn't care. It's probably just that there weren't any other sports clubs left nearby that I hadn't tried yet.
We, as a species, need physical exercise. Once a week is not much, but better than being unactive all the time. Honestly the once a week statement is so "normie" considering the lack of fitness that most people exhibit nowadays... Average person will run out of breath on a mile run. Most if not all people more intune with their male energies will agree that we need exercising more or less daily. The amount and intensity will vary a lot depening on multiple factors such as being competetive or simply trying to maintain some baseline for health and so on.

Chess is definitely a sport, but not the same way as utilising cardiovascular system or building stronger ligaments or anything of the sort. It is a mental task, and will do good for the brain, but not much else.

I used to feel like I was exerting myself while playing chess. I think I heard something about it burning calories or something according to studies, but I don't recall exactly.

I really liked chess when I was younger, but I've grown bored with it in the last decade. Not only because I don't have anyone to play with, but also because it just seems pointless and monotonous to me at this point and I feel I have gained all that I can gain from it on a personal level. I reached a certain level of proficiency without ever receiving formal training or study. I definitely suck compared to most who were in chess clubs and whatnot. Maybe I could have gone far if I had been in a chess club, who knows. I think I would have rage quit and left the club after dealing with smug chess kids though when I consider my personality and especially how I was in my youth.
 
Meteor said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Meteor said:
My browser quit responding when I was typing a reply.

Haha, true. In classical ballet there is a lot of competetion in singing up with a ballet company, and at that, to dance the main solo role.
It is not a typical competition environment.

There is also modern ballet. And there are (inter)national ballet days. You can look up routines or lessons they do for such a day on youtube, if you're interested.

I also know someone on youtube that gives instructions on how to do the moves or how to improve them, I can email who this is, if you'd like to.
Nowadays there are also more men going on pointe, but there are not enough shoes and going on pointe is something only a teacher can decide, if you are ready for it.

There are many forms of dance, not just the above or what I mentioned before.. there's folk dance, line dance, tap dance, (the examples I gave were from stijldansen), the hiphop stuff (or breakdancing maybe) / hardcore club dance stuff / pole dancing ... in short, there's a lot.
I didn't expect the number of shoes would be the limiting factor out of all things! Are they expensive to make?

I looked up some videos about modern ballet and I think it looks beautiful! I always believed it's better to go with the times rather than sticking to old traditions, so perhaps that suits me better than classical ballet after all.

I'd like to watch the videos of the person on YouTube that you mentioned, so please do let me know who this is.

When I was disappointed that I couldn't attend ballet lessons in my childhood, my parents asked me if I wanted to try any other kinds of dance, to which I said yes, and they found a breakdancing workshop for me. It was just some basic moves that I learned there, but it was quite fun. I think I like how ballet looks more though. I just hope I'm flexible enough, but I suppose I can practice.

I think I like dances that involve a lot of movement with the whole body, and breakdancing and ballet both fit the bill.

Pointes are tailored to ones feet. Its not one shoe fits all.
In men the issue is mostly that there are no pointes in their size, and those that are, don't always fit well. They could be too wide at the front, so your foot would slide down and sink in on itself, or too narrow and your toes don't feel like they could stretch out properly.
Also because men tend to be stronger (I think this was explained as well) the sole of the shoe might need to be a bit sturdier.

I do know another youtuber that explains this more in depth, but this is the main reason for it.

Also pointes (proper brands) can range from 60 euros to over 100 euros a pair ... so yes they're expensive.

Also flexibility can be practiced on its own.. Doing stretches is mandatory.. Doing yoga helps as well so :) there's that.
 
Meteor said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Meteor said:
I didn't expect the number of shoes would be the limiting factor out of all things! Are they expensive to make?

I looked up some videos about modern ballet and I think it looks beautiful! I always believed it's better to go with the times rather than sticking to old traditions, so perhaps that suits me better than classical ballet after all.

I'd like to watch the videos of the person on YouTube that you mentioned, so please do let me know who this is.

When I was disappointed that I couldn't attend ballet lessons in my childhood, my parents asked me if I wanted to try any other kinds of dance, to which I said yes, and they found a breakdancing workshop for me. It was just some basic moves that I learned there, but it was quite fun. I think I like how ballet looks more though. I just hope I'm flexible enough, but I suppose I can practice.

I think I like dances that involve a lot of movement with the whole body, and breakdancing and ballet both fit the bill.

Pointes are tailored to ones feet. Its not one shoe fits all.
In men the issue is mostly that there are no pointes in their size, and those that are, don't always fit well. They could be too wide at the front, so your foot would slide down and sink in on itself, or too narrow and your toes don't feel like they could stretch out properly.
Also because men tend to be stronger (I think this was explained as well) the sole of the shoe might need to be a bit sturdier.

I do know another youtuber that explains this more in depth, but this is the main reason for it.

Also pointes (proper brands) can range from 60 euros to over 100 euros a pair ... so yes they're expensive.

Also flexibility can be practiced on its own.. Doing stretches is mandatory.. Doing yoga helps as well so :) there's that.
60 euros to over 100 euros a pair? That's what my mom spends on her normal shoes :lol:

I used to wonder why she doesn't look for cheaper alternatives, but I realised that wearing expensive items is probably something she takes pride in. Not to mention, she's been working really hard her whole life, so it makes sense for her to spoil herself a bit.

Ill-fitting shoes are awful. Considering most ballet dancers are female, I suppose it makes sense that they have to be custom-tailored. Men's pointes would take far too long to sell if they are produced en masse, resulting in a loss.

Yoga did help with flexibility, but I wondered if I could do anything besides that. It seems one of the channels you recommended has tips on stretching as well though. Thank you again!

The shoes that I currently walk on are 60 eur when I bought them.. but they fit like a glove. And I bought them at scapino.
Once they completely break down I will throw them in the trash bin and buy new ones.

There are plently of shoes that are 200 euros or more..

I think for mens pointes it is mostly because its new that men go on top of them more. Its not that the technique to make them isnt there..

Oh you really should look up some videos on how they are made. Thats also very interesting.
 

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