Way or Ways for me?

[Gearshift]

I'm trying to understand with my logic the factors into the clause on an affirmation. So I hope what I say makes sense.

Way/s for me; is personalization of the affirmation and how energy goes around. In other words "way/s for me" it's good, positive and is affecting myself.

But my question is should we be using "way/s for me" or should it not be "way/s". In other words should we depersonalize the factor of the affirmation to affect reality just for the self.

I've been using "way/s for me" and I know some others use "manner/s for me". But isn't this wrong because it only affects my own self, we are personalizing the affirmation and making it only affect ourselves. Perhaps my logic is too centered around logical factors and maybe the reality is that it isn't bad. But on some level shouldn't we affect reality not in a personal way but in a way everyone benefits and everyone doesn't suffer. I know some might state the entire point of magick is to get a leg up on competition of others but I'm not stating that I'm stating the affecting of reality.

I guess my main point is shouldn't the entire chain of affecting reality be positive? rather than just personalize for myself?

And no I'm not trying to make it seem like because we are doing it for ourselves and others are gonna suffer cause we want something. I just simply want to know if personalization is a good thing or a a bad thing. I'd like to create a magickal effect whereby everyone benefits or isn't suffering just at the whims of my own magickal effects.

For example say I want a girlfriend and get one but she is unhappy. I'm happy but because I used ways for me. She seems happy and might be to a small degree but because the energy affected her in such a personalized manner for me, her happiness is fleeting and small. Or for example I make more money or receive money but the people kinda think I'm undeserving of it and seem to form negative ties together due to me personalizing my reality. In other words I personalized it too much just for myself whereby say I did it in a more appropriate way perhaps the other people don't despise me or don't even bother to get mad at my increase in financial benefit.

I guess what I'm trying to state is life isn't a single-player video game. Rather it's an MMORPG and I'm wondering if I'm doing activities which may cause me issues by personalizing my magick too much or to a negative degree even though positive. Life isn't a single-player game rather it has multiple players around.

I hope what I stated is understandable I had an easier to state, statements but I forgot when I woke up. Had the perfect small paragraph to state and poof gone upon waking.

 

[Alta Serpentis]

This is a very situationally based question, for rtr's for example its for the masses and so be it. If the working is to help yourself then it is personal, in a relationship always use 'ideal partner' so you both benefit from it, and normally you can do something about their happyness on the physical before you have to use magic to solve anything. As for money, you do not need to lick others shoes to get ahead. You have power and they don't, that's a heirarchy and go you for being the elite that you are. As long as it's legal and a healthy way for YOU, that is all that matters. We have to remember, Satan does not care for any old joe walking around, and while it's good to have some empathy, alot of these people do not deserve a bit of your kindness or energy for that matter.

 

[ModernMage]

You're over thinking this way too much. If you attract someone who isn't happy with you won't that negatively affect you? Pretty much meaning it wasn't a positive way for you to begin with. A big thing you need to realize with magic is your INTENTION towards it. If your intention is to attract a good loving relationship then that is what could manifest. If you have doubts and thoughts otherwise against your goal you could undermine your working. Do not doubt yourself and do not think you can't help others by helping yourself.

 

[Gearshift]

Guys, guys, guys since when do I want those things. Don't you people know what an example is.

I simply want to know if I use "way for me", does the personalization of reality make it so other suffer.

For example on the weight loss magick found in the JoS meditation section, Information Section. It states "I am breathing in sky blue energy that is speeding up my metabolism and causing me to loss excess body fat in a healthy way".

My question is why doesn't it state "way for me", why is it depersonalized. And not just THAT single example but any example. Should we be personalizing the reality towards our selves or should we in general state "way" just to maintain a non-personalization of said reality.

I don't know how to explain it easier I simply want to know should realities be personalized or should in general just not be.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

It is a very good question and valuable one, as it matters a lot the nuances of the affirmations and the words used. As well it matters what the individual mind and soul associates with each word, as every word has a "universe" and a web of associations, parallels, images and feelings attached to them, which affect by their subconscious nature the imprinting of energy.

What matters the most is intent, but when a routinely and automatism work is done, after a lot of energy done, the words and phrases in themselves work as a door and key to the pool of energy, which is individual.

Affirmations can be done only to serve the self, or to take in account other people.

For example, for a protective spell, the focus is to serve exclusively the self, as when taken into account another x person, leaves a hole to that person to influence you negatively.

If a spell of money is needed, and you serve only yourself, the others can be means to an end and pieces to puzzle to serve the goal.

As well the word "way" determines a singular focused and decisive path of manifestations, whereas in "ways" gives freedom of "choice" for the energy to apply to its goal, as well as to dissipate in different attempts of manifestation.

The goal is not to generalize a working, which even if done like this has power and manifestation, success. Rather the direct intention of how the working succeeds and the path it takes, the operation itself, helps and amplify the success of the working. This is of course dependable of the circumstances. This way of operation cannot have much success for example for spells to win at casino, as the working there of money is for 'Guidance" to the money and not in attracting money.

 

[13th_Wolf]

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Yeah I thought this sometime ago too. Affirmations are like props, they are often needed to reinforce the directing of the energy, but ultimately are for someone's own personal understanding of how something is going to be directed and defined in the world.

If you think of Sanskrit and Runic languages, the sounds are based on the sounds of the energies themselves right? For people versed and able to speak those, they don't really need affirmations in the same sense if they are raised meditative, as they will already have that in their mental process and visualisation. The will is all you need, because in this world we are raised overly on external support, validation and relying on words; we are lead to forget that everything firstly is a concept. The older languages are a language of the pure concept and not the interpretations and definitions of concepts which is why english and others are languages of constant arguments and misunderstanding. Their line is so mutable it's fucking annoying. Everyone in a scientific group or whatever is after the same end, or a spiritual group or anything. There's no need for them to be arguing on how something is defined and that's what I hate about the language. Affirmations are turned poisonous because of anglicized languages too, it's garbage.