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I saw a post about Vinasa. A Member said Not to invoke vinasa , Evoke it in a ball.
Saw another post. A member said
clean your Aura & Soul too after chanting vinasa. As it grows like a bug in soul something like that.


My question:
How to properly Evoke Vinasa in a ball. Evoking a energy is a advanced thing.

Aura cleaning info is present on JoS. But Soul Cleaning is Missing ? How to clean soul ?

As many of us are invoking Vinasa for a long time due to missing info on JoS. (Requesting HP to kindly update on JoS) How to fix/heal the damage made by this invoking mistake.

Correct Pronunciation of Vinasa ? Last two characters "Sa" like in word Saw? विनासा
Or like "Sha" in word Shadow. विनाशा

Ancient and modren sanskrit writings
Vinasa = विनासा or विनाशा vice versa.
 
robb said:
I saw a post about Vinasa. A Member said Not to invoke vinasa , Evoke it in a ball.
Saw another post. A member said
clean your Aura & Soul too after chanting vinasa. As it grows like a bug in soul something like that.


My question:
How to properly Evoke Vinasa in a ball. Evoking a energy is a advanced thing.

Aura cleaning info is present on JoS. But Soul Cleaning is Missing ? How to clean soul ?

As many of us are invoking Vinasa for a long time due to missing info on JoS. (Requesting HP to kindly update on JoS) How to fix/heal the damage made by this invoking mistake.

Correct Pronunciation of Vinasa ? Last two characters "Sa" like in word Saw? विनासा
Or like "Sha" in word Shadow. विनाशा

Ancient and modren sanskrit writings
Vinasa = विनासा or विनाशा vice versa.

Why did you use Vinasa over a longer time? How about stop doing it? Better do daily your AOP and AC

Soul and aura cleaning (AC) is the same just fokus on your aura, body and chakras (Returning curses 1 & 2).

From the JOS site:

"In the case of a malevolent influence, vibrate “Vinasa” VEE-NAH-SAH 9 times following vibration of the name backwards, letter by letter. If the name is unknown, then just vibrate the word “Vinasa” 9 times, and affirm: “You are no more.” Vinasa is an ancient Sanskrit word of banishment and acts to destroy the unwanted energy and/or entity. This word is to destroy and should not be used for any other purpose." https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Banishing.html

Reply HPHC:

"Yes but it nowhere states for it to be used ON someone, let alone on one's self. This is something people have came up with randomly on their own.

It clearly states this is for banishing. So the idea that this was for use on someone was created from someone else, or overly represented around.

This is for external use for banishing ghosts and other enemy influences.

Please make sure to double check things before doing so. Better use Ansuz for purposes like that."

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19165&p=77678&hilit=vinasa#p77678
 
robb said:
I saw a post about Vinasa. A Member said Not to invoke vinasa , Evoke it in a ball.
Saw another post. A member said
clean your Aura & Soul too after chanting vinasa. As it grows like a bug in soul something like that.
I used Vinasa by directing it to the target in the form of a laser. You might try to do this as well, actually I think vizualizing the energy under the shape of a laser/beam hitting the target might be more effective that a ball of energy that you would direct to the enemy. It definitely had effect but in the end, the strenght of a ritual in my opinion depends more on your spiritual level than on the words you use. If you want to do Vinasa then clean your soul big time afterwards. Me after rituals with Vinasa I was spending 30-40 minutes after only for cleaning. Also I would recommend not to use Vinasa too often, but maybe one ritual every 3-4 weeks. If it's as powerful and `deadly energy` as described on the forums then it might be more difficult to eliminate if it remains stuck to your soul after rituals. I found the ball of light pushing away dirt from your soul is highly effective for cleaning.
 
There is no 'Sha' vibration in Sanskrit. It's a poor transliteration. All sibilants are hissed 'S's. The different is where you place your tongue when you hiss it. Use the search function and you'll find a post where I explain how all different 'S's are properly vibrated.
 
The Alchemist7 said:
[...] Also I would recommend not to use Vinasa too often, but maybe one ritual every 3-4 weeks.

That depends from person to person. Some people, like me, need to banish on a daily basis because the enemy targets us specifically and they never seem to learn that it's pointless to try and get rid of us. If I didn't banish on a daily basis, I would probably been dead a long time ago or starving under a bridge.
 
Stormblood said:
The Alchemist7 said:
[...] Also I would recommend not to use Vinasa too often, but maybe one ritual every 3-4 weeks.

That depends from person to person. Some people, like me, need to banish on a daily basis because the enemy targets us specifically and they never seem to learn that it's pointless to try and get rid of us. If I didn't banish on a daily basis, I would probably been dead a long time ago or starving under a bridge.

I have the same problem as you, that I am constantly attacked, but after the mistake I made a few years ago using this mantra incorrectly I have not tried to use it again.
 
Wotanwarrior said:
Stormblood said:
That depends from person to person. Some people, like me, need to banish on a daily basis because the enemy targets us specifically and they never seem to learn that it's pointless to try and get rid of us. If I didn't banish on a daily basis, I would probably been dead a long time ago or starving under a bridge.

I have the same problem as you, that I am constantly attacked, but after the mistake I made a few years ago using this mantra incorrectly I have not tried to use it again.
Yes one reason why I don't recommend Vinasa for extensive use, because if one doesn't clean their soul after the ritual and properly cleaning in general, it might have negative impact on one's life after the ritual. Also not related to Vinasa but I noticed on myself if I don't clean the aura and soul properly with a ball of light is highly likely that I will experience bad things if I go somewhere outside my house and it happened a few times. I was not sure whether to write about it or not but the last time when it happened I did not clean my soul with the ball of light for 2-3 days and when I was walking in complete darkness completely suddenly I tripped, fell and got up with a broken rib, all in a matter of 1-2 seconds. I don't even know if it was the output of not cleaning the soul, a sort of attack/curse or simply not being careful but definitely I don't experience anything of the sort when I do cleaning, even when I do more dangerous things.

Stormblood said:
That depends from person to person. Some people, like me, need to banish on a daily basis because the enemy targets us specifically and they never seem to learn that it's pointless to try and get rid of us. If I didn't banish on a daily basis, I would probably been dead a long time ago or starving under a bridge.
By banishing you do the banishing ritual from the site?
 
robb said:
I saw a post about Vinasa. A Member said Not to invoke vinasa , Evoke it in a ball.
Saw another post. A member said
clean your Aura & Soul too after chanting vinasa. As it grows like a bug in soul something like that.


My question:
How to properly Evoke Vinasa in a ball. Evoking a energy is a advanced thing.

Aura cleaning info is present on JoS. But Soul Cleaning is Missing ? How to clean soul ?

As many of us are invoking Vinasa for a long time due to missing info on JoS. (Requesting HP to kindly update on JoS) How to fix/heal the damage made by this invoking mistake.

Correct Pronunciation of Vinasa ? Last two characters "Sa" like in word Saw? विनासा
Or like "Sha" in word Shadow. विनाशा

Ancient and modren sanskrit writings
Vinasa = विनासा or विनाशा vice versa.

Another person who used this the wrong way before. I took part in some working someone posted on here where it was used the wrong way it did take a long time to cleanse.

Use Surya for awhile. Same if you want to use one of the other words for death (actually safer than vinisa)

It takes awhile to clean this off. This is why maybe you either just don't want to use it or do it every once in awhile.

If this gets stuck to you that will end up being bad most likely.
 
The Alchemist7 said:
By banishing you do the banishing ritual from the site?
Yes, Vinasa and Sananda.

Wotanwarrior said:
I have the same problem as you, that I am constantly attacked, but after the mistake I made a few years ago using this mantra incorrectly I have not tried to use it again.
I managed to turn a few things around by doing this:
:arrow: doing extra rounds of CIR on a daily basis (I will not write how much I do for safety purposes, but some people here now). I do CIR multiple times a day
:arrow: banishment, obviously followed by cleaning (I also do this before each and every one of any spells that affects me directly, in this fashion: banishment, the cleaning, then the working)
:arrow: extra full Returning curses (I do this at least 2x a day, plus after each FRTR combo)
:arrow: extra protection
 
Stormblood said:
The Alchemist7 said:
By banishing you do the banishing ritual from the site?
Yes, Vinasa and Sananda.

Wotanwarrior said:
I have the same problem as you, that I am constantly attacked, but after the mistake I made a few years ago using this mantra incorrectly I have not tried to use it again.
I managed to turn a few things around by doing this:
:arrow: doing extra rounds of CIR on a daily basis (I will not write how much I do for safety purposes, but some people here now). I do CIR multiple times a day
:arrow: banishment, obviously followed by cleaning (I also do this before each and every one of any spells that affects me directly, in this fashion: banishment, the cleaning, then the working)
:arrow: extra full Returning curses (I do this at least 2x a day, plus after each FRTR combo)
:arrow: extra protection
You are probably one of those who fight more in the front lines so your routine in regards to that makes sense. I'm glad to be more on the supporting side of things.
 
Henu the Great said:
Stormblood said:
The Alchemist7 said:
By banishing you do the banishing ritual from the site?
Yes, Vinasa and Sananda.

Wotanwarrior said:
I have the same problem as you, that I am constantly attacked, but after the mistake I made a few years ago using this mantra incorrectly I have not tried to use it again.
I managed to turn a few things around by doing this:
:arrow: doing extra rounds of CIR on a daily basis (I will not write how much I do for safety purposes, but some people here now). I do CIR multiple times a day
:arrow: banishment, obviously followed by cleaning (I also do this before each and every one of any spells that affects me directly, in this fashion: banishment, the cleaning, then the working)
:arrow: extra full Returning curses (I do this at least 2x a day, plus after each FRTR combo)
:arrow: extra protection
You are probably one of those who fight more in the front lines so your routine in regards to that makes sense. I'm glad to be more on the supporting side of things.

Yeah, that's why I said every case is different. It's also great for me to know that by doing extra rounds of the CIR I'm blessing everyone involved in warfare against the enemy, not just myself.
 
Stormblood said:
The Alchemist7 said:
By banishing you do the banishing ritual from the site?
Yes, Vinasa and Sananda.

Wotanwarrior said:
I have the same problem as you, that I am constantly attacked, but after the mistake I made a few years ago using this mantra incorrectly I have not tried to use it again.
I managed to turn a few things around by doing this:
:arrow: doing extra rounds of CIR on a daily basis (I will not write how much I do for safety purposes, but some people here now). I do CIR multiple times a day
:arrow: banishment, obviously followed by cleaning (I also do this before each and every one of any spells that affects me directly, in this fashion: banishment, the cleaning, then the working)
:arrow: extra full Returning curses (I do this at least 2x a day, plus after each FRTR combo)
:arrow: extra protection

I am fulfilling all the requirements you say except the banishing, I also do the CIR RTR every day, I did not know that Sananda can also be used to banish, the energies of this mantra are much friendlier than Vinasa.
Thanks for the advice, I will try with Sananda.
 
Wotanwarrior said:
Stormblood said:
The Alchemist7 said:
By banishing you do the banishing ritual from the site?
Yes, Vinasa and Sananda.

Wotanwarrior said:
I have the same problem as you, that I am constantly attacked, but after the mistake I made a few years ago using this mantra incorrectly I have not tried to use it again.
I managed to turn a few things around by doing this:
:arrow: doing extra rounds of CIR on a daily basis (I will not write how much I do for safety purposes, but some people here now). I do CIR multiple times a day
:arrow: banishment, obviously followed by cleaning (I also do this before each and every one of any spells that affects me directly, in this fashion: banishment, the cleaning, then the working)
:arrow: extra full Returning curses (I do this at least 2x a day, plus after each FRTR combo)
:arrow: extra protection

I am fulfilling all the requirements you say except the banishing, I also do the CIR RTR every day, I did not know that Sananda can also be used to banish, the energies of this mantra are much friendlier than Vinasa.
Thanks for the advice, I will try with Sananda.
You have been here a very long time. I am sure you know what is best for you. This seems to be what is best for me.
 
slyscorpion said:
Use Surya for awhile. Same if you want to use one of the other words for death (actually safer than vinisa)

You mean to say i can use Surya then affirm , instead of Vinasa.
So, there will be no issues?

Sanada is powerful too for destorying enemy entities?

The problem is i have to use these banishing mantra daily due to the constant enemy attacks.
Looking for alternative mantras.

What CIR stands for ?
 
robb said:
slyscorpion said:
Use Surya for awhile. Same if you want to use one of the other words for death (actually safer than vinisa)

You mean to say i can use Surya then affirm , instead of Vinasa.
So, there will be no issues?

Sanada is powerful too for destorying enemy entities?

The problem is i have to use these banishing mantra daily due to the constant enemy attacks.
Looking for alternative mantras.

What CIR stands for ?

I first have to say use at your own risk as it's not on the JOS site and these words can have dangerous energy.

Vadha and Mrtyu are two words for death. Residual energy can be cleansed with visuddhi and Surya with less difficulty than vinasa.

Have not tried on entities so do not know if it works for that Surya vibrated at an entity probably won't do much neither would sananda.
Those are positive energy words non destructive.

If you try this let me know your experience. I have used these words and been able to cleanse them fine. Although they seem to have taken a long time to work that's my only comment.
 
slyscorpion said:
Vadha and Mrtyu are two words for death. Residual energy can be cleansed with visuddhi and Surya with less difficulty than vinasa.

Have not tried on entities so do not know if it works for that
What method works best for cleansing vinasa energies. Deep cleansling by Lydia (rotating small sun)
Or
The partial use of affirmation from RoC1 (light is cleaning and removing destictive energies directed or connected at me ?)
Or
Engulfing self in a ball of light and chanting surya.

Personally the last works good.

Stormblood said:
..vinasa constantly....
Have you felt any neg. Effect of using vinasa constantly ? If not, is it because sananda neutralize all ?

Do you have any safer alternatives ? As you are dealing with this for a long time.

Personally i haven't felt any negitive effect of vinasa; i have updated my AoP with affirmation "protected from harms." And i twice the use of one time raised vinasa energy on enemy entities. The side effect of using twice the one time raise vinasa is it drains my energy which can be fixed with a small rep of surya.

Wotanwarrior said:
..sananda..
What are the results on enemy entities?

Has anyone tried Surya and affirm you are no more on enemy entites ? Share your experience.




Is it safe to use Satanic Fire on Self ? I'm aware about Vinasa.
Search didn't pop result on Satanic fire on self. So, i'm asking.
 
robb said:
Stormblood said:
..vinasa constantly....
Have you felt any neg. Effect of using vinasa constantly ? If not, is it because sananda neutralize all ?

Do you have any safer alternatives ? As you are dealing with this for a long time.

Personally i haven't felt any negitive effect of vinasa; i have updated my AoP with affirmation "protected from harms." And i twice the use of one time raised vinasa energy on enemy entities. The side effect of using twice the one time raise vinasa is it drains my energy which can be fixed with a small rep of surya.

Vinasa seems negative only if you use it on yourself or another living being. Using it to banish energies doesn't seem to leave any negative aftermath.

Vinasa is the only mantra for banishment, as far as I know. Other things don't seem to do the job in the same specific way.
 
robb said:
slyscorpion said:
Vadha and Mrtyu are two words for death. Residual energy can be cleansed with visuddhi and Surya with less difficulty than vinasa.

Have not tried on entities so do not know if it works for that
What method works best for cleansing vinasa energies. Deep cleansling by Lydia (rotating small sun)
Or
The partial use of affirmation from RoC1 (light is cleaning and removing destictive energies directed or connected at me ?)
Or
Engulfing self in a ball of light and chanting surya.

Personally the last works good.

Stormblood said:
..vinasa constantly....
Have you felt any neg. Effect of using vinasa constantly ? If not, is it because sananda neutralize all ?

Do you have any safer alternatives ? As you are dealing with this for a long time.

Personally i haven't felt any negitive effect of vinasa; i have updated my AoP with affirmation "protected from harms." And i twice the use of one time raised vinasa energy on enemy entities. The side effect of using twice the one time raise vinasa is it drains my energy which can be fixed with a small rep of surya.

Wotanwarrior said:
..sananda..
What are the results on enemy entities?

Has anyone tried Surya and affirm you are no more on enemy entites ? Share your experience.




Is it safe to use Satanic Fire on Self ? I'm aware about Vinasa.
Search didn't pop result on Satanic fire on self. So, i'm asking.

If your dealing with energy from vibrating sanskrit words other sanskrit words are the only way to remove all of it so vibration. There may have been more to some of the mantras than this in cleansing such as using a word that has a reverse meaning to wipe out residual energies 🤔 but the cleansing works in many sanskrit words. This always has risks in it though that is why it's discouraged to experiment with. There is a risk you won't be able to figure out how to fix something you did as a lot of this stuff is guesswork now a days most knowledge lost. That is what Maxine was saying.

Use any method you like but keep vibrating the sanskrit cleansing word during it (there are more btw than just what I personally listed) just keep going till you are sure you are clean you likely will know
 
But I used this personally i was introduced to these words from another SS a couple years ago who used it in cursing and was fine you should be with these I haven't used stuff I wasn't introduced too though so can't comment on everything

I am trying to put a warning type message cause there are words that are just straight up dangerous and have taken out people before so looking up random stuff in sanskrit dictionary isn't good I know some people might do that from what I say. I do not do that myself I wait to be introduced to something or see it works feel out the energy of something before using it etc
 
Vinasa has rooted base energy from Wunjo, but it has black magick proprieties. It instills extreme guilt, feeling of shame, self-doubt, and depression. Running away from problems, obsession, and desperation. On the same line of thought, it opens and dissipates by these effects. When one feels guilty it is open to abuse and punishment. It is punishment energy. One can vibrate this for banishment and if the banishment doesn't occur, punishment is due.

Wunjo for black magic is the opposite but on the same line of action, it instills the opposite of guilt, pride, overconfidence up to the point of punishment. One is invisible the other visible.

Both these energies can be used as an opener, for the real harming decisions of magic. These prepare the victim to accept and manifest the other black energies. One can use Vinasa to open, then to add other destruction energy onto the person.

Cursing people is not just that, throwing energy out. The energy must be structured, it needs to have an opener, a starting point. The mind and emotion must be opened to seed energies, the defenses lowered. This kind of energy does that.

I have found from practicing and being helped by the Gods in some siddhis a course of action. The gathering, the void (amplification) , the release. The gathering part of energy must have entrance. Everything has a birth time, a starting point.

The void is cutting the source energy from the surroundings, isolating the victim from any other influences by actualizing ether element. This amplifies the inner and cursing energies to extreme levels. Then the release is the manifestation. A good curse won't take event right away, but only when the energy became self implied in the individual, grows, and as a layered force beneath the individual can snap or reach the "boiling point".

For real manifestation, also the magnetic and electric part of the energy must be fulfilled and can acquire the release point. The individual will themselves lead into oblivion, as the force that moves them is no different from that of free will.

The gathering is magnetic, the void is the ether, the release is electric.

If the source/ pool/ ball of energy is engulfed in the ether it will amplify it and isolate it. By the courtesy of the ether, one can manifest in this source other elements such as fire and have manifestation.
 
Also, the "vin" root relates to the potential of either connection or disconnection. "Vino" means to incite connection, to gather. This is from Venus, that which makes it together. Mending, adding together, sticking. Vinasa means to disrupt, to dissipate, which I already talked about, that the unbinding is the death. This is why Vinasa means death because it unbinds and disconnects. Wunjo is the positive potential, which in linear expression can be used to connect or to overburden for negative purposes. The opposite of that, Vinasa, will only in the same linear expression unbind, disconnect. This will create guilt, desperation, or seed further damage by opening (disconnecting the whole) to seed other energies.
 
NakedPluto said:
Vinasa has rooted base energy from Wunjo, but it has black magick proprieties.

Speaking of that, Vinasa could be Wunjo + Ansuz. This is on the phonetic level. Asa comes from Oss/Ansuz. Vin... vinio, which is one way of pronouncing Wunjo. Vin is another spelling.
 

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