VERY negative spiritual experience

[pqkiller]

<pre> Hi all, I was hoping to get some input here from a High Priest/ess as I
have had an extremely negative experience involving LSD and a very
powerful spiritual encounter with a person who Im not sure was in total
control of what happened.

Basically, me and a friend, who is an atheist who dabbles in spiritual
work but was an xian throughout childhood were on LSD together, not
something I do often, I try to stay away from drugs altogether. Now,
having had heightened spiritual awareness at the time, I started a
spiritual exchange with my friend, by means of telepathy through the third
eye. He responded to it instantly, and I could hear and feel his thoughts
also. Almost immediately, he became particularly arrogant of his prowess
and made it known by striking me in the face. As he did so, I could see
his body lit up with spiritual energy and I was defenseless to his blow.
To cut what could be quite a long story down, this interaction continued
and he stated that he was the only god and demanded I bow to him. He could
hear me venerating Satan in my mind and it made him angry. He became
physically violent to the point where he would have killed me right there
and then had I not done as he asked. I shudder when I write this still,
but I felt strong flowing white light pick up my etheral body, and force
me to my knees. This made him very happy, and like a sick little spoilt
brat, he danced, it reminded me somewhat of the filthy nazarene and how I
imagine he celebrates.

Once Again I venerated Satan in my mind, despite the fact I was bowing to
the monster my friend had become, and this made him very angry, and I felt
his energy surge through me maliciously, as he advanced on me, I had no
other choice than to close my mind of my belief and venerate him as
god.... After this he motioned for me to please him sexually, at which
point I grabbed my shit and bailed hard, running down the road as quick as
I could, into a taxi and home....

He has since apologised for his actions although the following night I
performed a destruction ritual. However, since the event, I have felt
quite ashamed of my own lack of strength in the situation, and although
having firm resolve to not take drugs again whatsoever, I fear I might
have closed the door between myself and Satan which makes me sick to think
about.

I guess the real question here is not of my service to Satan, as it is
unrelenting, but simply to seek out if any of you have had any similar
experiences, I am almost certain that my *friend* has either gone mad with
power and deluded himself, or I faced a very real, very powerful entity
that night, crippling me because I was under the effects of drugs and
lacked control. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Ave Satanas!
.. . .. . .. . .. .. ... .... . . . ... . .. ... .

type_D
. ... .. . ... . . . .... ... .. .. . .. . .. . .. </pre>

 

[[email protected]]

Firstly, I think it is important to state that the use of illegal substances is neither supported or encouraged, in fact it is highly discouraged, particularly by the Joy of Satan Ministries.

The reasons for this are not singular. Primarily narcotics, of any kind, produce holes in the Aura and leave one open to infiltration, either trough invasion or manipulation.

In your own particular case I think you will probably find the psychoactive effect of the hallucinogen has brought about the events that unfolded. Before taking the "Drug" your atheist "friend" no doubt held, and possibly still holds a desire towards yourself. Being aware of your devotion to Our Father his subconscious sought through the manipulation of the psychoactive drug to "impose" his own desires through degradation of your own.

Your own mind was fighting the effect of the hallucinogen in the face of this manipulation through reinforcement of your own faith. Sounds to me like Satan brought you home in one piece. The alternative would have been rape perhaps, under the circumstances.

People get very confused with the Spiritual Application of Narcotics. We are not Witch Doctors living in the Brazilian jungles, who through years of ancestoral practice has gained a deep understanding of such substances and their uses. Western culture and understanding of psychoactive substances is reduced to the "addict" the "dealer" and the "dance floor", very different to any Spiritual application, and therefore really should be avoided in order to maintain a healthy mind, a healthy body and a healthy Soul.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Hi all, I was hoping to get some input here from a High Priest/ess as I
have had an extremely negative experience involving LSD and a very
powerful spiritual encounter with a person who Im not sure was in total
control of what happened.

Basically, me and a friend, who is an atheist who dabbles in spiritual
work but was an xian throughout childhood were on LSD together, not
something I do often, I try to stay away from drugs altogether. Now,
having had heightened spiritual awareness at the time, I started a
spiritual exchange with my friend, by means of telepathy through the
third
eye. He responded to it instantly, and I could hear and feel his
thoughts
also. Almost immediately, he became particularly arrogant of his prowess
and made it known by striking me in the face. As he did so, I could see
his body lit up with spiritual energy and I was defenseless to his blow.
To cut what could be quite a long story down, this interaction continued
and he stated that he was the only god and demanded I bow to him. He
could
hear me venerating Satan in my mind and it made him angry. He became
physically violent to the point where he would have killed me right
there
and then had I not done as he asked. I shudder when I write this still,
but I felt strong flowing white light pick up my etheral body, and force
me to my knees. This made him very happy, and like a sick little spoilt
brat, he danced, it reminded me somewhat of the filthy nazarene and how
I
imagine he celebrates.

Once Again I venerated Satan in my mind, despite the fact I was bowing
to
the monster my friend had become, and this made him very angry, and I
felt
his energy surge through me maliciously, as he advanced on me, I had no
other choice than to close my mind of my belief and venerate him as
god.... After this he motioned for me to please him sexually, at which
point I grabbed my shit and bailed hard, running down the road as quick
as
I could, into a taxi and home....

He has since apologised for his actions although the following night I
performed a destruction ritual. However, since the event, I have felt
quite ashamed of my own lack of strength in the situation, and although
having firm resolve to not take drugs again whatsoever, I fear I might
have closed the door between myself and Satan which makes me sick to
think
about.

I guess the real question here is not of my service to Satan, as it is
unrelenting, but simply to seek out if any of you have had any similar
experiences, I am almost certain that my *friend* has either gone mad
with
power and deluded himself, or I faced a very real, very powerful entity
that night, crippling me because I was under the effects of drugs and
lacked control. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Ave Satanas!
.. . .. . .. . .. .. ... .... . . . ... . .. ... .

type_D
. ... .. . ... . . . .... ... .. .. . .. . .. . ..

 

[pqkiller]

<pre> Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background. From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes, it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence, outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas! </pre>

 

[jahfersace]

Hi, I'm not of the ministry but would like to share some thoughts on this. Acid alone as if not being enough, seems to have been coupled by a nasty critter your friend probably met while messing with the wrong stuff. Now, being weak is no shame when you see what you're up against, on the other hand we can do so much more than that. Training is the answer if you ask me. Once everyone's gone through the six monts we'll all be able to take on multiple nasties at once. I also want to say that I agree with Dragonwolfs post, however there are some of us that have a living tradition of using plants for many purposes in life and some of those plants can be seen as drugs (if ingested by some city boy/girl).

Slava Satan!!
MummuinaKi

 

[[email protected]]

Dude,

Just my opinion here mixed with some facts.

Some may not agree here, but all those things are drugs, including weed. A drug can be anything that alters body chemistry, and that is what weed does. LSD is more extreme I'm sure. Anything else can also have drug like effects like vitamins and supplements, and food to a milder degree if taken enough.

Ontop of that, whether you manifest your intentions or do spiritual warfare, drugs will make you vulnerable, because it will imbalance whatever you have in you or cause you problems, and that will be prime meat for the wolves... As it is easier to take care of an enemy through their weakness. Then there are certain facts like the burnout and desensitization effects it can permanently have on the body, killing braincells and effecting "attention span" which will affect focus which is everything... imagine how that effects your workings.





From: "vgorazd"
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:04:07 -0000
To: <[email protected]
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience
Hi, I'm not of the ministry but would like to share some thoughts on this. Acid alone as if not being enough, seems to have been coupled by a nasty critter your friend probably met while messing with the wrong stuff. Now, being weak is no shame when you see what you're up against, on the other hand we can do so much more than that. Training is the answer if you ask me. Once everyone's gone through the six monts we'll all be able to take on multiple nasties at once. I also want to say that I agree with Dragonwolfs post, however there are some of us that have a living tradition of using plants for many purposes in life and some of those plants can be seen as drugs (if ingested by some city boy/girl).

Slava Satan!!
MummuinaKi

 

[[email protected]]

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[mike hutchinson]

#ygrps-yiv-219480097 .ygrps-yiv-219480097hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-219480097 .ygrps-yiv-219480097hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?


 

88-14/666, 
Michael




 

To: [email protected]
From: forgotten.identity@...
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience



A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- [/IMG]HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ ... wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

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[williams4033]

It is also important to note that the Illuminati have been controlling their puppets for centuries with giving them drugs in secret societies.

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

Last I knew the NSM was also support freedom from religion, but unfortunately, they have let Christianity and other Jewish sentiments slide through. The Jews rewrite history and regarding homo/bisexuality, they play both sides. On one side, they claim to support it and this includes the dangerous Jew-fed drug addictions and unchecked decadence, forcing the issue of homo/bisexuality into everyone's faces like smashing someone in the pace with a pie. On the other hand, they and their Christian [Jewish Gentile] friends write about it being a sickness, a chosen preference or lifestyle, and lies about Nazi Germany to make money.

There is NO DOUBT that there are many kikes in the National Socialist Movement today because of such stances. While the reality is that not everyone will be fully comfortable with the topic of homo/bisexuality, in the Fourth Reich, many Gentiles with such poison in their originally Jew-free Aryan blood, blood, body and soul will have to be sent to "isolation camps" for a full de-Christianization/Judeafication process or else they won't be worthy of fighting. A friend of mine gave me the "isolation camp" term, which means that it serves as a footnote, in a way.

For those who doubt Judaism in the NSM, read:

http://ohio.nsm88.org/claims.html

On another page, they state that homo/bisexuality doesn't help to preserve the species. This is a fraudulent JEWISH/KIKE LIE!!!! I swear to Satan that they are sorrowfully WRONG about it. They've bought into the lies of what the Jews have told what the Nazis have said in regards to such subject matter that still exists to this day when it should be dead by now. Gays/bi's have a lot to contribute to National Socialism, SO THAT MEANS THAT THEIR CLAIM THAT IN A NATIONAL SOCIALIST SOCIETY HOMOSEXUALITY WOULD EARN THE DEATH PENALTY IS *ANOTHER JEWISH LIE!!* I never use Satan's name in vain or try to make things in the way that I want them to be, but I can SWEAR to Satan about this.

Homo/bisexuals not preserving the species. I don't buy into the statements that Hitler himself wasn't heterosexual, BUT the only way to stop any form of non-heterosexuality would be for heterosexuals to stop having kids. One's person orientation isn't like being born retarded or handicapped. It is just what it is and those who can't handle hat are fucking themselves up the ass with a giant dildo- or in other words, their brainless head.

Whether it's Christian Identity or just plain any form of Christianity or Christian (Jewish) sentiments, these are the people who would deserve the death penalty because their genes of stupidity are a POISON TO THE PRESERVATION OF THE SPECIES!!!! When people think that the Jews don't need Christians anymore because they have successfully removed spiritual knowledge from Gentiles and have complete control over the secular world have another thing coming. These type of morons are much more likely to enter the fold of some imaginary "Aryan Christ."

With what I just said, I had no intention of further dividing Whites against Whites (or other non-Jewish nationalities against themselves), but actually, rather just the opposite. This disease in the NSM isn't going to go away over night, but it will.

For members who were able to join the NSM, it's kind of like a "Don't ask, don't tell," and that their are non-Christian (Jewish) factions within the NSM. However, in the FOURTH REICH which is 100% of Satan's- if people can't handle homo/bisexuals who are sound in their character with total loyalty to their race (death before dishonor), then THEIR NEGATIVE VIEWS WILL BE "DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL." For Satan's sake, our species is dying out NOT because of homo/bisexuality, but from STUPIDITY AND POINTING THE FINGER TO WHERE IT DOESN'T BELONG! Unbelievable and yet believable at the same time because the Jews still occupy this earth and have every single high seat and position of control.

For White heterosexuals who you deem to have a sound character themselves, politely enlighten them with this. It's very long-winded, but it can be summarized:

http://www.geocities.com/gbltsatanists/Xianity7.html

If sexual expressions between consenting adults doesn't involve race-mixing and life-threatening elements, than this whole orientation thing is still a pointless division between Whites (as well as non-White Gentiles).

Rather than attacking Whites who are retarded and use their head as a dildo, just keep attacking Christianity in all of it's manifestations. Do rituals to enlighten White people to their original pre AIDS-tainted (Christian [Jewish]-tainted) blood and put an end to this nonsense. For those who are non-heterosexual or support homo/bisexuals who you know to be decent people, do rituals to put an end to the Jew-fed greed, self-centeredness, racial blindness, secular Christianity, drugs, destructive (Jew-fed once again) lifestyles that has held them in shackles as well, and for them to join their rightful place in Satan's National Socialism. I wouldn't recommend this, but this issue still hasn't been put to sleep yet in many places.

I wouldn't normally say this, but YES, some of the HIGHEST ranking Nazis of the Third Reich (who were also of Satan and the occult) WERE NOT HETEROSEXUAL, although Satan says that their identities are not important and are a waste of time trying to figure out because it doesn't matter. Some bisexuals had kids and others didn't. Hitler, although heterosexual never had children and yet you'd think that today's quazi-Nazis would be attacking him for not producing children when gays/bi's could be in a similar position that he was in. Also, despite empty-handed lip service made to the whiny German Christians, Himmler did just the opposite of what he is said to have done. He provided secret places for non-heterosexual soldiers to do their own thing where they weren't in sight of bitchy Christian tattle-tales.

So don't worry about them. Ignore them. Either let them remain worthless and an abomination to Satan or keep doing rituals to destroy Christianity and all of Satan's enemies. Whether one has a specific place or target for a ritual isn't always important. A ritualistic attack on all things Christian (Jewish)- the energies will be directed to where they need to be going at the moment.

As an afterword, whether NS people love, hate, or are indifferent to non-heterosexual people, if they are serious about Nazism, I have respect for their loyalty, but we are not victims and don't turn the other cheek, but I don't advise adding any specific NS person to your curse-list. Also, we refuse to act the way the Jews want us to such as destroying family units (the Jews are the ones who destroy families), so in other words, we need to slowly but surely get non-closeted NS heterosexuals to give us our places in our duty- two steps forward and one step back for this temporary time.

One more time for this reply, despite the length of this sermon, it can be summarized. Even for those of you who either have non-heterosexual friends or family who are just people with a different orientation and that's that, you can also help enlighten as well with this:

http://www.geocities.com/gbltsatanists/Xianity7.html

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@... wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael







To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@...
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[in_his_name_666]

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@... wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@...
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@... wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@... wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[[email protected]]

Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@... wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[Allison Passino]

Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message ----- From: forgotten.identity@... To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)
Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@... wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/ bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/ bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/ bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "in_his_name_ 666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88. org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

Thank you Lucius from myself as well. The only thing is that people are born with their eye color and that their eye color isn't a preference. For homo/bisexuals, it goes like this in a conversation with a low IQ'd heterosexual person: "I chose/made my preference/persuasion to be homo/bisexual on the same day that you chose/preferred or were persuaded to be heterosexual." That's how it is. Or in other words, unlike Christian claims, these things such as eye color or orientation can't be chosen. They choose the individual.

Many people are catching on to what the Jews really are. Even dumb Christians who make it all about "Christian versus Jew" sometimes know what the Jews are up to, but unfortunately while these hapless creatures don't realize that they have become a Jew through a Jewish creation- CHRISTIANITY!

While in July 2007, Astaroth said that there is no such thing as "blind hatred" towards the Jews (legally, of course, while thinking for yourself is still legal), these dumb Christians include the acceptance of homosexuality in their list of why the Jews hate Jesus Christ so much. Can any other Satanist see this pattern? Of course we know better. Not only do we know that Christ never existed, but the Jews invented Christianity and the Christians who hate Jews are in Jewish hands and they don't even know it. If only the ones who are aware of International Jewry would join our side and 100% curse the Jewish hands that were feeding them Christian so-called "morality" and "family values."

Regardless of my emphasis, even still, a Satanist is entitled to free-thought in regards to orientation. Love it, hate it, feel indifferent, but in Satanism, these are "Don't ask, don't tell" because anyone who acts like a Christian doesn't deserve freedom of speech in open Satanism if they agree with the enemy in regards to this subject matter.

Again, Lucius, thank you. Other than adding the birth part, I couldn't have put it better than you had.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forgotten.identity@..." <forgotten.identity@... wrote:

Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!







--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[Andre1]

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forgotten.identity@..." <forgotten.identity@... wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

Yes, druggies are easy targets if you find them to be worthless people who only take up space (but that goes for any individual who isn't a Spiritual Satanist). I neither condemn nor condone recreational use of pot or occasional alcohol use, but I personally gave it up on November 10th, 2009. That was the last straw. Many of my friends at the time had already lost their minds because within a period of 2 years, they had taken over 700 hits of LSD. When camping with my best friend (I didn't tell him that I had a crush on him until after moving to Arizona and he couldn't believe that I wasn't straight [good guy despite the drugs]) and a couple visitors from Ohio, I saw my friend take 12 hits of acid. Needless to say, none of us slept that night.

I couldn't believe it that he actually remembered me and what I was like.

One other creepy thing I remember is that this other friend (well, actually I hated him) was tripping and he thought that he had died, so he took all of the clothes off his fat-ass body and started burying them and then ran down the highway totally naked and was arrested and put into an asylum. Wouldn't be surprised if that fat-ass is in jail by now.

People who are on drugs like that who are your enemies are wide and open targets.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Andre" <darkfury211@... wrote:

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forgotten.identity@" <forgotten.identity@ wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

My bad. Not 2009. January 10th, 2000. Going on 9 years ago.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@... wrote:

Yes, druggies are easy targets if you find them to be worthless people who only take up space (but that goes for any individual who isn't a Spiritual Satanist). I neither condemn nor condone recreational use of pot or occasional alcohol use, but I personally gave it up on November 10th, 2009. That was the last straw. Many of my friends at the time had already lost their minds because within a period of 2 years, they had taken over 700 hits of LSD. When camping with my best friend (I didn't tell him that I had a crush on him until after moving to Arizona and he couldn't believe that I wasn't straight [good guy despite the drugs]) and a couple visitors from Ohio, I saw my friend take 12 hits of acid. Needless to say, none of us slept that night.

I couldn't believe it that he actually remembered me and what I was like.

One other creepy thing I remember is that this other friend (well, actually I hated him) was tripping and he thought that he had died, so he took all of the clothes off his fat-ass body and started burying them and then ran down the highway totally naked and was arrested and put into an asylum. Wouldn't be surprised if that fat-ass is in jail by now.

People who are on drugs like that who are your enemies are wide and open targets.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Andre" <darkfury211@ wrote:

yea your right that isnt any excuse. lets think here. lsd leaves you open to all sortsa crazy thoughts, and its a really long deal. why dont you find him sometime when he's frying and push him toawrds expieriencing a nightmare?
Hail Satan!




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forgotten.identity@" <forgotten.identity@ wrote:

A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[mike hutchinson]

#ygrps-yiv-337992087 .ygrps-yiv-337992087hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-337992087 .ygrps-yiv-337992087hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I didn't mean to spark trouble here. I am very into Satanism (I went through the dedication on the JOS page) and am very into National Socialism. I had just seen some articles of Joy of Satan members joining the National Socialist Movement, and was curious why that was done. I guess there are different views on sexuality within the group as was earlier explained to me. I personally don't wish to join the national socialist movement because I think that it has been infiltrated by jews and I have no wish to partake in that. Although I do love the newer black uniforms they made. A National Socialist government (in its truest sense) would allow homosexuality. A homosexual or bisexual would not be having parades throughout the streets, because there are no heterosexual parades that I know of. Racial purity would be taught, and most people being straight and bisexual would raise up the white seed that we need. However, we cannot force someone who is homosexual to either do something they're uncomfortable with (sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex) or have to remain abstinent. What someone does behind their own doors is their own business. Jews are in fact trying to use homosexuals as pawns. For example, everyone who is homosexual or bisexual, should be outraged at NAMBLA. The jews are using homosexuals then making them all look horrible by making such an organization. I am bisexual myself, and it very well offends me. I am glad that the Joy of Satan group is here, and it is a billion times better than Laveyan satanism. Anton Lavey's parents were both jewish and his ears flop out in a way that makes it unmistakable what his background was. I hope that this group doesn't go anywhere. I see the white race taking its place again completely in the upcoming age of aquarius. The white race will again see a glorious National Socialist government dedicated to the welfare of its people. 

Heil Satan and Heil Hitler,
88-14-666, 
Michael Hutchinson




 

To: [email protected]
From: chimera11@...
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message ----- From: forgotten.identity@ ymail.com To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)
Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@... wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/ bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/ bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/ bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "in_his_name_ 666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88. org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

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[pqkiller]

<pre> Whilst this post has slightly strayed from the original input, (not to say I am bothered by that, free thought is natural human spirit) I would still like to thank you all for your input. Satanism can and has been for me a lonely path, and whilst it is expected and natural for us all to take responsibility for our own actions, learn our own lessons and truly carve our own fate, this group has again proved itself as a resource high in value to myself and Im sure many others to bounce ideas and get feedback from those of you who carry more experience. Thankyou.

Ave Satanas!! </pre>

 

[[email protected]]

A lesson well learn't on the part of the Student becomes a lesson that can be then taught to a Student, however willing that Student may or may not be towards the exam.

What High Priest Jake Carlson wrote regarding the availability of the placement of Intent is one such opportunity to teach.

If for any reason you are led to believe that the person that gave you a lesson in his "narcotic" field was doing so with devious intent, the a lesson of devious intention would be well better taught

The ability to twist the reality for one who has allowed their reality to become twisted is a bitter tragedy in the hands of a beautiful conductor.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@... wrote:

Whilst this post has slightly strayed from the original input, (not to
say I am bothered by that, free thought is natural human spirit) I would
still like to thank you all for your input. Satanism can and has been
for me a lonely path, and whilst it is expected and natural for us all
to take responsibility for our own actions, learn our own lessons and
truly carve our own fate, this group has again proved itself as a
resource high in value to myself and Im sure many others to bounce ideas
and get feedback from those of you who carry more experience. Thankyou.

Ave Satanas!!

 

[hammerofthegods_666]

Spark trouble here? You didn't. If you're loyal to the white race and feel that you have special talents to offer for our race and would put death before dishonor, then you are truly NS, whether you'd be welcome or not. If you're not welcome by other humans, then obviously they're not good enough for you or for me or for my partner. If they wanted me to lie about Phil and pretend to have a girlfriend, then THEY are being dishonorable and are sparking trouble.

As far as the Jew-run "gay rights organizations" and being outraged, for one of my upcoming articles, I have a list of every single "gay rights movement" and television show or series that was opened by a Jew. This is the purpose of the GLBT group as well as the rest of the GLBT group who gives a fuck.

I'm going to let this thread die soon, although I have a couple more things to say, but whether straight individuals like it or not, the topic of HOMO/BISEXUALITY DOES BELONG IN SPIRITUAL WARFARE! and not only the GLBT group. All dedicated Spiritual Satanists have the right to enlighten people.

Satan sees that the current state of NS not allowing those of us who would even sacrifice our lives for it aren't worthy of us at the moment and Satan has been surprisingly outspoken about his stance on this. Straight people can't hear his comments about it because they don't want to hear it.

For any Satanist who has a heavy leaning towards National Socialism means that they have most likely been with Satan for a number of past-lives since the very beginning. When Satan was on earth, all of the civilizations that had sprung- Sumeria, Egypt, etc were all National Socialist. A joke between me and Satan is that even people who aren't Christians who have a problem with gay/bi's have some kind of subconscious sensitivity towards blasphemy against "Jesus Christ." There are times that Satan has made such jokes (about this, but not only) that I said "stop it" because I was laughing too hard and had to catch my breath.

So, Mike, don't worry. We'll be accepted when they're worthy of us. We'll take two steps forward and one step back for us being accepted for now (while destroying what the Jews have done to us, let alone Christianity), just like how Hitler and his Demons were subtly forcing Satanism into the churches despite the fact that he could have been ruined by the German Christians who out-numbered them. Not only did our Man-God (that's how I see him anyways) put his life on the line (he had many attempts on his life) for his position, knowing the truth about the Jews and knowing a lot of the formula for the Magnum Opus, he was pushing Satanism to a land that had become totally blind to their Creator.

Nobody should make their personal sex life public, but it's going to be obvious to many who aren't single that the person they love is of the same gender, or both if one is bisexual. If "Satanists" still have problems with things that are considered "sins" like this, I've also noticed how they've used the Nazarene as an excuse to hate gay/bi/lesbian people when that *thing* was responsible for such stances in the first place. National Socialist Paganism/Satanism prior to the age of the Nazarene had never heard of anything anti-homo/bisexual/lesbian. This isn't to say that Satan hates people who hate non-heterosexuals, but he can't stand hypocrisy.

Point being- Mike, you didn't cause any trouble. This thread will die soon, but I might have a thing or two left to say about it and then let this thread die out. A Christian who infiltrated this group last night was disgusted with the gay/bi issue in particular. Really shows where they're at. I know it's easy for you to hear from me and not from the same level from heterosexuals, but I can feel what you're feeling and I know the Satan-blessed truth about this that many people don't want to hear.

There is also a saying: "Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one, and everyone thinks that everyone else's stinks." LOL.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@... wrote:


I didn't mean to spark trouble here. I am very into Satanism (I went through the dedication on the JOS page) and am very into National Socialism. I had just seen some articles of Joy of Satan members joining the National Socialist Movement, and was curious why that was done. I guess there are different views on sexuality within the group as was earlier explained to me. I personally don't wish to join the national socialist movement because I think that it has been infiltrated by jews and I have no wish to partake in that. Although I do love the newer black uniforms they made. A National Socialist government (in its truest sense) would allow homosexuality. A homosexual or bisexual would not be having parades throughout the streets, because there are no heterosexual parades that I know of. Racial purity would be taught, and most people being straight and bisexual would raise up the white seed that we need. However, we cannot force someone who is homosexual to either do something they're uncomfortable with (sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex) or have to remain abstinent. What someone does behind their own doors is their own business. Jews are in fact trying to use homosexuals as pawns. For example, everyone who is homosexual or bisexual, should be outraged at NAMBLA. The jews are using homosexuals then making them all look horrible by making such an organization. I am bisexual myself, and it very well offends me. I am glad that the Joy of Satan group is here, and it is a billion times better than Laveyan satanism. Anton Lavey's parents were both jewish and his ears flop out in a way that makes it unmistakable what his background was. I hope that this group doesn't go anywhere. I see the white race taking its place again completely in the upcoming age of aquarius. The white race will again see a glorious National Socialist government dedicated to the welfare of its people.

Heil Satan and Heil Hitler,
88-14-666,
Michael Hutchinson







To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: chimera11@...
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)








Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message -----
From: forgotten.identity@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[satansgirl66]

Homophobia is a tool for xians/jews to use againest us. They use it to get us fighting and to make neo-nazis(those who buy into the kike bull) look stupid and discredit us. I am bi and very dedicated to National Socialism, the two can go fine together.

666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "forgotten.identity@..." <forgotten.identity@... wrote:

Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!







--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[satansgirl66]

I could not have said it better.
666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@... wrote:


I didn't mean to spark trouble here. I am very into Satanism (I went through the dedication on the JOS page) and am very into National Socialism. I had just seen some articles of Joy of Satan members joining the National Socialist Movement, and was curious why that was done. I guess there are different views on sexuality within the group as was earlier explained to me. I personally don't wish to join the national socialist movement because I think that it has been infiltrated by jews and I have no wish to partake in that. Although I do love the newer black uniforms they made. A National Socialist government (in its truest sense) would allow homosexuality. A homosexual or bisexual would not be having parades throughout the streets, because there are no heterosexual parades that I know of. Racial purity would be taught, and most people being straight and bisexual would raise up the white seed that we need. However, we cannot force someone who is homosexual to either do something they're uncomfortable with (sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex) or have to remain abstinent. What someone does behind their own doors is their own business. Jews are in fact trying to use homosexuals as pawns. For example, everyone who is homosexual or bisexual, should be outraged at NAMBLA. The jews are using homosexuals then making them all look horrible by making such an organization. I am bisexual myself, and it very well offends me. I am glad that the Joy of Satan group is here, and it is a billion times better than Laveyan satanism. Anton Lavey's parents were both jewish and his ears flop out in a way that makes it unmistakable what his background was. I hope that this group doesn't go anywhere. I see the white race taking its place again completely in the upcoming age of aquarius. The white race will again see a glorious National Socialist government dedicated to the welfare of its people.

Heil Satan and Heil Hitler,
88-14-666,
Michael Hutchinson







To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: chimera11@...
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)








Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message -----
From: forgotten.identity@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[mike hutchinson]

#ygrps-yiv-788641456 .ygrps-yiv-788641456hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-788641456 .ygrps-yiv-788641456hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I do not want to keep this topic open too long, due to you wanting it to close soon, but I feel that there are a few other things that I should throw in. For example, within the animal kingdom there is seen homosexuality, even when there are enough males and females to populate. I see it as a thing naturally built into nature for instances when the population doesn't need to grow as much. It works that way whether there are enough or not, because it is a thing that probably takes place 1 out of every number of people born to be preserved for when the population needs stabilization. Obviously white men are at a huge decline right now, but it is still encoded within DNA to come out of some who are born. A male who wishes no children (like Hitler) would make a wonderful leader. They would not have children to tie them down and would make a wonderful contribution to society while straight men and women were doing their duty for the race and those who were homosexual could contribute more of their time to the nation. I think as this group grows more and more,  we could start having more physical meetings accross the nation, and make pamphlets and such to inform people in the issues of satanism and national socialism. We could have pamphlets for people who already like the NS way of thinking but are hung up on issues like christianity and homosexuality. We could make pamphlets for each kind of group. By doing things as legal as possible, we can spread information without being wreckless. We can continue to do our rituals. Do the black magick where it is needed and do healing magick for those who deserve and need it. I see great potential in this movement, and Satan truly is bringing the joy that I have longed for. I am having a hard time figuring even these basic rituals out. I cannot memorize where all of the chakras are to do these exercises. This is the only thing that has really consumed me.
 
 


88-14-666
 
HEIL SATAN, AND HEIL HITLER
 
Michael Hutchinson




 

To: [email protected]
From: hammerofthegods_666@...
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:32:59 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Spark trouble here? You didn't. If you're loyal to the white race and feel that you have special talents to offer for our race and would put death before dishonor, then you are truly NS, whether you'd be welcome or not. If you're not welcome by other humans, then obviously they're not good enough for you or for me or for my partner. If they wanted me to lie about Phil and pretend to have a girlfriend, then THEY are being dishonorable and are sparking trouble.

As far as the Jew-run "gay rights organizations" and being outraged, for one of my upcoming articles, I have a list of every single "gay rights movement" and television show or series that was opened by a Jew. This is the purpose of the GLBT group as well as the rest of the GLBT group who gives a fuck.

I'm going to let this thread die soon, although I have a couple more things to say, but whether straight individuals like it or not, the topic of HOMO/BISEXUALITY DOES BELONG IN SPIRITUAL WARFARE! and not only the GLBT group. All dedicated Spiritual Satanists have the right to enlighten people.

Satan sees that the current state of NS not allowing those of us who would even sacrifice our lives for it aren't worthy of us at the moment and Satan has been surprisingly outspoken about his stance on this. Straight people can't hear his comments about it because they don't want to hear it.

For any Satanist who has a heavy leaning towards National Socialism means that they have most likely been with Satan for a number of past-lives since the very beginning. When Satan was on earth, all of the civilizations that had sprung- Sumeria, Egypt, etc were all National Socialist. A joke between me and Satan is that even people who aren't Christians who have a problem with gay/bi's have some kind of subconscious sensitivity towards blasphemy against "Jesus Christ." There are times that Satan has made such jokes (about this, but not only) that I said "stop it" because I was laughing too hard and had to catch my breath.

So, Mike, don't worry. We'll be accepted when they're worthy of us. We'll take two steps forward and one step back for us being accepted for now (while destroying what the Jews have done to us, let alone Christianity) , just like how Hitler and his Demons were subtly forcing Satanism into the churches despite the fact that he could have been ruined by the German Christians who out-numbered them. Not only did our Man-God (that's how I see him anyways) put his life on the line (he had many attempts on his life) for his position, knowing the truth about the Jews and knowing a lot of the formula for the Magnum Opus, he was pushing Satanism to a land that had become totally blind to their Creator.

Nobody should make their personal sex life public, but it's going to be obvious to many who aren't single that the person they love is of the same gender, or both if one is bisexual. If "Satanists" still have problems with things that are considered "sins" like this, I've also noticed how they've used the Nazarene as an excuse to hate gay/bi/lesbian people when that *thing* was responsible for such stances in the first place. National Socialist Paganism/Satanism prior to the age of the Nazarene had never heard of anything anti-homo/bisexual/ lesbian. This isn't to say that Satan hates people who hate non-heterosexuals, but he can't stand hypocrisy.

Point being- Mike, you didn't cause any trouble. This thread will die soon, but I might have a thing or two left to say about it and then let this thread die out. A Christian who infiltrated this group last night was disgusted with the gay/bi issue in particular. Really shows where they're at. I know it's easy for you to hear from me and not from the same level from heterosexuals, but I can feel what you're feeling and I know the Satan-blessed truth about this that many people don't want to hear.

There is also a saying: "Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one, and everyone thinks that everyone else's stinks." LOL.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ ... wrote:


I didn't mean to spark trouble here. I am very into Satanism (I went through the dedication on the JOS page) and am very into National Socialism. I had just seen some articles of Joy of Satan members joining the National Socialist Movement, and was curious why that was done. I guess there are different views on sexuality within the group as was earlier explained to me. I personally don't wish to join the national socialist movement because I think that it has been infiltrated by jews and I have no wish to partake in that. Although I do love the newer black uniforms they made. A National Socialist government (in its truest sense) would allow homosexuality. A homosexual or bisexual would not be having parades throughout the streets, because there are no heterosexual parades that I know of. Racial purity would be taught, and most people being straight and bisexual would raise up the white seed that we need. However, we cannot force someone who is homosexual to either do something they're uncomfortable with (sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex) or have to remain abstinent. What someone does behind their own doors is their own business. Jews are in fact trying to use homosexuals as pawns. For example, everyone who is homosexual or bisexual, should be outraged at NAMBLA. The jews are using homosexuals then making them all look horrible by making such an organization. I am bisexual myself, and it very well offends me. I am glad that the Joy of Satan group is here, and it is a billion times better than Laveyan satanism. Anton Lavey's parents were both jewish and his ears flop out in a way that makes it unmistakable what his background was. I hope that this group doesn't go anywhere. I see the white race taking its place again completely in the upcoming age of aquarius. The white race will again see a glorious National Socialist government dedicated to the welfare of its people.

Heil Satan and Heil Hitler,
88-14-666,
Michael Hutchinson







To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: chimera11@.. .
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)








Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message -----
From: forgotten.identity@ ...
To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/ bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/ bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/ bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "in_his_name_ 666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88. org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

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[hammerofthegods_666]

In my opinion, the GLBT group needs your help as well when and if you can give it and if you desire to. Satan is "pointing" at you right now, in a way. Otherwise I wouldn't have replied to the short response at my bedtime, but no pressure, especially if you don't know what to say. Things will be picking up for us as well.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "satansgirl66" <satansgirl66@... wrote:

I could not have said it better.
666/88

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I didn't mean to spark trouble here. I am very into Satanism (I went through the dedication on the JOS page) and am very into National Socialism. I had just seen some articles of Joy of Satan members joining the National Socialist Movement, and was curious why that was done. I guess there are different views on sexuality within the group as was earlier explained to me. I personally don't wish to join the national socialist movement because I think that it has been infiltrated by jews and I have no wish to partake in that. Although I do love the newer black uniforms they made. A National Socialist government (in its truest sense) would allow homosexuality. A homosexual or bisexual would not be having parades throughout the streets, because there are no heterosexual parades that I know of. Racial purity would be taught, and most people being straight and bisexual would raise up the white seed that we need. However, we cannot force someone who is homosexual to either do something they're uncomfortable with (sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex) or have to remain abstinent. What someone does behind their own doors is their own business. Jews are in fact trying to use homosexuals as pawns. For example, everyone who is homosexual or bisexual, should be outraged at NAMBLA. The jews are using homosexuals then making them all look horrible by making such an organization. I am bisexual myself, and it very well offends me. I am glad that the Joy of Satan group is here, and it is a billion times better than Laveyan satanism. Anton Lavey's parents were both jewish and his ears flop out in a way that makes it unmistakable what his background was. I hope that this group doesn't go anywhere. I see the white race taking its place again completely in the upcoming age of aquarius. The white race will again see a glorious National Socialist government dedicated to the welfare of its people.

Heil Satan and Heil Hitler,
88-14-666,
Michael Hutchinson







To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: chimera11@
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)








Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message -----
From: forgotten.identity@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hammerofthegods_666" <hammerofthegods_666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsatan.com

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "in_his_name_666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88.org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

 

[mike hutchinson]

#ygrps-yiv-2052977478 .ygrps-yiv-2052977478hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-2052977478 .ygrps-yiv-2052977478hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I am willing to do whatever I can to help further the cause. I am working hard to be able to grasp the concept of these basic rituals. The funny thing is that when I did my dedication to Satan, the flame from the candle shot up super high, and I had to take the battery out of my smoke detector for the moment to keep it from continuous beeping. I saw the marvellous power of Satan right there and then. I feel that I will be able to help quite a bit when I am able to grasp the magick concept much better. I know that behind it is much power. I have also been made aware by various people within Satanism and Odinism that bisexuality for some reason is a good thing to have whilst doing ritual because it presents more of a balance. I cannot emphasize the happiness that has overcame me since I was able to join the group and see people with the stance that I've had in my heart all along. Any way possible that I can help, just let me know. I will do anything possible to further the cause of the upcoming kingdom of Satan. 
 
 
88-14-666
Heil Satan and Heil Hitler,
Michael Hutchinson


 

To: [email protected]
From: hammerofthegods_666@...
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 05:35:44 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



In my opinion, the GLBT group needs your help as well when and if you can give it and if you desire to. Satan is "pointing" at you right now, in a way. Otherwise I wouldn't have replied to the short response at my bedtime, but no pressure, especially if you don't know what to say. Things will be picking up for us as well.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "satansgirl66" <satansgirl66@ ... wrote:

I could not have said it better.
666/88

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I didn't mean to spark trouble here. I am very into Satanism (I went through the dedication on the JOS page) and am very into National Socialism. I had just seen some articles of Joy of Satan members joining the National Socialist Movement, and was curious why that was done. I guess there are different views on sexuality within the group as was earlier explained to me. I personally don't wish to join the national socialist movement because I think that it has been infiltrated by jews and I have no wish to partake in that. Although I do love the newer black uniforms they made. A National Socialist government (in its truest sense) would allow homosexuality. A homosexual or bisexual would not be having parades throughout the streets, because there are no heterosexual parades that I know of. Racial purity would be taught, and most people being straight and bisexual would raise up the white seed that we need. However, we cannot force someone who is homosexual to either do something they're uncomfortable with (sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex) or have to remain abstinent. What someone does behind their own doors is their own business. Jews are in fact trying to use homosexuals as pawns. For example, everyone who is homosexual or bisexual, should be outraged at NAMBLA. The jews are using homosexuals then making them all look horrible by making such an organization. I am bisexual myself, and it very well offends me. I am glad that the Joy of Satan group is here, and it is a billion times better than Laveyan satanism. Anton Lavey's parents were both jewish and his ears flop out in a way that makes it unmistakable what his background was. I hope that this group doesn't go anywhere. I see the white race taking its place again completely in the upcoming age of aquarius. The white race will again see a glorious National Socialist government dedicated to the welfare of its people.

Heil Satan and Heil Hitler,
88-14-666,
Michael Hutchinson







To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: chimera11@
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)








Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message -----
From: forgotten.identity@
To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/ bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/ bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/ bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "in_his_name_ 666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88. org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

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[Anthony Hoylman]

<td val[/IMG]Perhaps its because self-preservation is the highest law. We must also include our race as part of ourselves.I know you agree that satanists are a group elite individuals. If so you must realize that science supports the theory that the european people are more intelligent than individuals of other races, specifically of african descent. There is no such thing as an american race. All white people in America Have descended from europe. Another point to make is that everything you enjoy in life, this pc for example was created by people of white aryan descent. Name one thing that africans created?????? Look at Europe and Look at Africa. The proof is in the pudding. It is 2009 and they still drink elephant piss from mudd holes AND dance around fires with their faces painted. People practice eugenics when breeding animals, why not follow suit in humans
--- On Mon, 5/4/09, satansgirl66 <satansgirl66@... wrote:

From: satansgirl66 <satansgirl66@...
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 12:50 AM

I could not have said it better.
666/88

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ ... wrote:


I didn't mean to spark trouble here. I am very into Satanism (I went through the dedication on the JOS page) and am very into National Socialism. I had just seen some articles of Joy of Satan members joining the National Socialist Movement, and was curious why that was done. I guess there are different views on sexuality within the group as was earlier explained to me. I personally don't wish to join the national socialist movement because I think that it has been infiltrated by jews and I have no wish to partake in that. Although I do love the newer black uniforms they made. A National Socialist government (in its truest sense) would allow homosexuality. A homosexual or bisexual would not be having parades throughout the streets, because there are no heterosexual parades that I know of. Racial purity would be taught, and most people being straight and bisexual would raise up the white seed that we need. However, we cannot force someone who is homosexual to either do something they're uncomfortable with (sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex) or have to remain abstinent. What someone does behind their own doors is their own business. Jews are in fact trying to use homosexuals as pawns. For example, everyone who is homosexual or bisexual, should be outraged at NAMBLA. The jews are using homosexuals then making them all look horrible by making such an organization. I am bisexual myself, and it very well offends me. I am glad that the Joy of Satan group is here, and it is a billion times better than Laveyan satanism. Anton Lavey's parents were both jewish and his ears flop out in a way that makes it unmistakable what his background was. I hope that this group doesn't go anywhere. I see the white race taking its place again completely in the upcoming age of aquarius. The white race will again see a glorious National Socialist government dedicated to the welfare of its people.

Heil Satan and Heil Hitler,
88-14-666,
Michael Hutchinson







To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: chimera11@.. .
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)








Indeed! Well said, Brother Lucius. Hail Father Satan!

----- Original Message -----
From: forgotten.identity@ ...
To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:01 AM
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: The National Socialist Movement (why so much emphasis?)



Spirituality, Magick, the Occult and the Gaze of Our Father is NOT Gender Specific, neither do any of the above specify sexuality.

Satan believes very Strongly in "To Each His Own", by which HE gives us the Freedom of CHOICE in Our preferences, unlike the enemy faiths dictation.

I believe very strongly in National Socialism, and will always see its implementation as a way forward, but I would not deny My Brothers or My Sisters WILL or Preference, their Freedom Of Choice to be of whichever persuasion suits the comfort of their Soul.

Homophobia is a xian concept, simple, FACT.

High Priest Jake Carlson has endeavored long and hard against the workings of the Enemies of Our Father, and should We find Ourselves needy of a Champion to carry Our Fathers flag, no better could be found to challenge diversity with Intelligence, Passion and Pride.

Where We to adopt entirely the NSM We would sacrifice such Strengths for such weakness in an inability to accept Our Fathers decree. Satan does not promote self denial, as Satan does not promote restrictions on sexuality.

It is true that there are those who find homosexuality distasteful, and of course there will always be, for We behave Naturally in accordance with Our differences, these are not creases that will be ironed out from the pages of time any time soon, We progress through diversity. But let us linger on Nature for a moment, let us linger on Time.

In the absence of a Global Media, in the absence of the unatural, cross Gender relationships would still occur, there are animals that display cross gender sexuality. As for Time, Ancient Civilizations display records long before the concept of christ, long before the concept of National Socialism of such relationships. The Gods themselves are not bound by a sense of "sexuality", it is a modern concept on a grander scale.

Who then are We to argue with the Gods over the creations of Man? We are Animal as We are Spiritual, neither has a written "law" on sexuality, why? Because it is not an "issue" to the God's and to Our Father. Mankind creates its own Monsters.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

For those who wonder and/or get pissed about my pressing the acceptance of homo/bisexuality in JoS is 1) I am a JoS High Priest who represents the gay/lesbian/ bi community. 2) I do what Satan wants and the difference between JoS National Socialism is different than the public "official" is that we collectively do what Satan wants no matter what the issue at hand is.

3) My putting so much emphasis on this matter that should be dead by now is because I am a completely *strong empath* where I can literally hear the cries of oppressed and innocent homo/lesbian/ bisexuals who are of my race as well as sense and feel their successes. I can feel the Jewish influence and "authority" over such idiotic places that gay/bi/lesbian people feel nowhere else to turn to such as "gay rights movements" that are run by Jews. I can feel the homo/lesbian/ bisexual individuals who are blamed for AIDS and those who have succumbed to a dangerous way of life and the stereotypes and my anger about it, etc etc. The list goes on and on and my "radar" gives me a splitting headache at times where there is no outlet but speaking to Satan, communicating with the essence of Nazi Germany, and speaking in ways that some people will like and others will not. I do what Satan wants without question out of loyalty and in return for everything that Satan and the Powers of Hell have done for my partner and me.

Even though the people with such big hang-ups about this will be silenced about it, there will always be things about other people that individuals won't like. For example, I hate it when people wear baggy pants or shorts and I hate this cell phone generation, and tele-vision rather than vision, but there's nothing I can really do about it, so with those brief examples, I keep a "Don't ask, don't tell" because these are individuals who live their lives as they see fit and I will not violate them. If they are loyal Satanists who are of sound character, then I leave them be. They are individuals too as long as they are Gentiles who are committed to working on bettering themselves, this planet and diligently working for Satan.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "hammerofthegods_ 666" <hammerofthegods_ 666@ wrote:

True. But in The Fourth Reich, sexuality that is consenting and doesn't involve race-mixing will be fine and those who happen to have a problem with it won't have any choice but for THEM to be included in the "Don't ask, don't tell," whether they like it or not. I know. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's not my fault, nor is it Satan's.

666/88!!

High Priest Jake Carlson
http://www.joyofsat an.com

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "in_his_name_ 666" <rthar86@ wrote:

Well everyone has their own personal believes on these issues. Some dont like homosexuals, some dont mind them, and some accept them. Its all a personal thing. So I would think(and this is just my opinion) that those JOS members who joined the NSM dont agree with homosexuality that much. I hope this helps with your question.




--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, mike hutchinson <hypermike14@ wrote:


I had a question. I am aware that in Nazi Germany many of the people in the ranks were homosexual or bisexual. I accept this as okay, but when running across the webpage of the NSM, http://nsm88. org , they seem to speak against such a thing. How have Joy of Satan members been able to join the NSM with the stance that the NSM does not particularly agree with, and calls a mental illness?






88-14/666,
Michael















To: HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com
From: forgotten.identity@
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:30:15 +0000
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Re: VERY negative spiritual experience







A lesson learn't is often worth its weight in Gold, and if you consider how detrimental the situation could have been then perhaps you do yourself justice by showing strength enough to still have walked away.

Don't beat yourself up about your actions whilst under the influence of a mind altering substance. As you have stated, you feel you have learn't a lesson.

On another note, if this friend of yours is "experienced" with the use of such substances, then his apologies are quite lame, he should have known better, and quite possibly even knew or planned what would or did occur.

Regards

Lucius Dragonwolf
Hell's Assassin

Hail Satan!

--- In HellsArmy666@ yahoogroups. com, "pqkiller" <ivyissexy69@ wrote:

Thanks Lucius, and as I stated I normally do not, nor intend to use
drugs again, I guess to a certain degree, I have attempted to
rationalise in a normal sense what happened that night as though I was
completely aware and functioning totally. Had I not entered the drug
experience seeking specifically an intense spiritual experience (moreso
positive) perhaps the outcome would have been different.

I guess the part that has really thrown me, is the fact that my friend
is a regular user of LSD, I know that he has had over 400 'trips' in the
past three years or so, and that he is also well versed on various
occult practices, as well as having come from a strong xian background.
From my point of view, that was clouded by the effects of the drug yes,
it seems that he himself has mastered a certain amount of spiritual
ability *ONLY WHEN USING THE DRUG* as a psychological dependence,
outlined as a big no-no and dangerous to the mage on the JOS website.

It is that confusion that has lead me to wonder wether or not my choice
to bow to him and appease him in the moment is an action with a dire
consequence for me in reality or wether it will simply burn in my mind
as an even from which I will take away many lessons.

Ave Satanas!

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