Very basic question

[Demonic Tech]

What's astrology all about? How does the position of planets effect such things as personality, events, etc?
I have 0 knowledge about it, but I'd like to learn

 

[Aquarius]

https://www.itajos.com/X%20ASTROLOGIA/ASTROLOGIA%20main%20index.htm

 

[FancyMancy]

Everything is Energy, including matter, and each bit of matter has its own vibration. You can learn this in science in school (assuming they educate science the same way all over the World). These vibrations interact with us in ways which most people currently are not aware of. Take a heavy pneumatic drill, for example, its 'vibrating' drill breaks bits of road up; the vibrations can be felt through the walls and into your house. It might knock a vase off your table and break it, or if you sit near that same wall you can feel the vibrations much better, and they would vibrate your Body and the joints in your bones and your muscles, etc. Those who work on pneumatic drills, etc. a lot can get Hand-Arm Vibration Syndrome (HAVS).

The Planets (Planets, Stars, Moon; "Planets" is the technical term in Astrology) are all like this, with their own respective frequencies, affecting us in different ways, interacting together and complimenting or offsetting Energies. It has been described as that the Planets are like lenses, focussing Energies, which impact upon us. The many different vibrations, depending on what vibrations and Energies are in our Souls already, all interact in ways which affect our lives. Our Brains and Minds are like conduits between the Energy/Astral World and the Physical World, and our Souls have power in them; the Soul, Mind and Body all affect each other. For the technical details - enjoy learning via the link Aquarius shared with you.

 

[Demonic Tech]

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Thanks for the explanation, that's definetely what I wanted to know, the only issue with astrology on JoS website is that I find difficult to understand a lot of things, since it seems like some little knowledge is needed to know and understand some words that are used in those astrology articles, while I don't know any of them, excexpt for "birth chart", that's the only thing I know
Btw, where can I get my own birth chart? It's plenty of sites if you google it, but I don't know if they're valuable, could you tell me?

 

[FancyMancy]

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Thanks for the explanation, that's definetely what I wanted to know, the only issue with astrology on JoS website is that I find difficult to understand a lot of things, since it seems like some little knowledge is needed to know and understand some words that are used in those astrology articles, while I don't know any of them, excexpt for "birth chart", that's the only thing I know
Btw, where can I get my own birth chart? It's plenty of sites if you google it, but I don't know if they're valuable, could you tell me?

You can email Lydia or HPHC/visit their sites, and get them to do one for you, or you could use a programme called Zet9. It would be better to get HPHC or Lydia to do it (or maybe both of them so you can compare and get two different perspectives), as they have experience and understanding and they know it, whereas this programme is not a person and cannot give a definitive answer. i.e. it says, "If the Planet is well-aspected, then this; however, if it is aspected badly, then that"; a person would know, and would know how to say it properly. After, you could then use what they say, and use the programme to teach yourself along with Azazel's Astrology for Satanists. If you also want, now or later, you could do a working to help improve your understanding of Astrology.

...it´s only, when i had the perfect reason to invalidate astrology, that i actually became more interested in exploring it, as a tool, to explore the intersections of astronomy, mythology and human psychology... still learning. what will be will be...

Did you read anything about keeping yourself safe? I was going to say "Fuck sake", but I'm not going to be bogged-down with people choosing to identify themselves. Later!

 

[Demonic Tech]

You can email Lydia or HPHC/visit their sites

Could you give me their emails/links?

 

[FancyMancy]

You can email Lydia or HPHC/visit their sites

Could you give me their emails/links?

You can email them through their forum accounts, and their websites should be in their siggies.

 

[Aquarius]

You can email Lydia or HPHC/visit their sites

Could you give me their emails/links?

http://lydiasastrology.com/
As for HC's one it's in his signature.

 

[Demonic Tech]

You can email Lydia or HPHC/visit their sites

Could you give me their emails/links?

http://lydiasastrology.com/
As for HC's one it's in his signature.

As an aspiring web developer, wow that website is cool af

 

[Demonic Tech]

http://lydiasastrology.com/

oh this is why the website looks so cool
I can't afford any of her services (I don't have a job)

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

I enjoy Astrodienst for creating natal charts; I believe Lydia uses this site to create a more detailed version of a natal chart than what's available to guest users. Still, I've found it to be quite useful. From their website, astro.com, you'd wanna click on Free Horoscopes --> Natal Chart, Ascendant --> Data entry page for guest users. Alternatively, here's this long ass link:

https://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi?r...67573656368707265663d31&lang=e&rs=3&btyp=w2gw

The Azazel's Astrology page has a lot of useful information for interpreting what you'll see, but like you said, it can be difficult actually knowing what it is you're even looking at. I'll use an example here to try and explain things.

For whatever fucking reason it's not letting me just load the image here, so here's a Gyazo link for your referencing pleasure: https://gyazo.com/0d55128ce49be01d369c1f088f09c494

Here's the chart of some fuck who'll eventually be born in the year 2095. The circle in the center represents the Earth, and those black lines forming a grid with numbers in them are the "cusps" of the Houses. That's where you get terms like "Aries on the cusp." In this case, the person has Aries on the cusp of their 1st House. The 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th House cusps are also called Cardinal angles due to their importance, and are called the Ascendant, Imum Coeli/IC, Descendant and Midheaven/MC, respectively. The Ascendant is arguably the most important and represents the horizon line where the Sun rises in the morning; thus, it is also called one's "Rising Sign." For this individual, Aries is rising over the horizon at their time of birth, thus Aries is their Rising Sign.

The planets themselves will move counter-clockwise when direct, and clockwise when retrograde. The entire wheel, however, will spin in a clockwise direction as the Earth rotates, so these House cusps literally change by the minute. That's why your exact birth time is especially important, since this will determine where your House cusps are. If this individual was born just a few minutes earlier, then their Rising Sign would be Pisces instead with Aries "intercepted" in the 1st House. Intercepted signs are located completely within a House; they co-rule the House they're intercepted in, but are not as powerful or influential as the sign that is actually on the cusp. For this individual, you can see they have Leo on the cusp of their 6th House with Virgo intercepted. The Sun rules Leo and Mercury rules Virgo; thus, the Sun rules this person's 6th House and Mercury co-rules it.

Every House has a ruler, and you'll see terms like "2nd House ruler", "3rd House ruler", and so on. "Chart ruler" and "1st House ruler" are the same thing. Because the 1st House represents you and your personality, the planet that rules your Rising Sign is your chart ruler and most important planet. In this example, this person's chart ruler is Mars because Mars rules Aries, and they have Mars in Aquarius. Mars in Aquarius thus becomes the dominant force in their personality and who they are as an individual.

The colored lines connecting planets are aspects. The soft aspects are blue, the hard aspects are red, and then you have ones with dotted lines that are not as strong but still important, like the semisquare or inconjunction. Learning which aspect is which just takes some memorization of math and the symbols. Trine is 120 degrees, sextile is 60, square is 90, etc.. The symbols representing the aspects are in that stair-looking grid on the bottom left.

Lastly, the FAEW-CFM table above the aspects table shows what planets are in what element and type of sign. FAEW is Fire, Air, Earth and Water, and CFM is Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable. This chart here is relatively balanced with a decent number of planets in cardinal, fixed and mutable signs with every element represented somewhere.

Hopefully this clarifies enough that you'll be able to make sense of your own chart and start making some interpretations. Astrology is complex as fuck but fun once you can understand what a chart represents.

 

[Stormblood]

Could you give me their emails/links?

HPHC is not taking orders currently.

I can't afford any of her services (I don't have a job)

A brief note: her prices are much lower compared to New Age astrologers and kike astrologers.

 

[Demonic Tech]

A brief note: her prices are much lower compared to New Age astrologers and kike astrologers.

That's very nice, but still can't afford 'em I'm afraid.
I'm not criticising her prices

 

[HPS Lydia]

http://lydiasastrology.com/
As for HC's one it's in his signature.

As an aspiring web developer, wow that website is cool af

Thanks, a fellow SS bought the design and set it up for me As for affording an order, there are money spells available. When I was new I couldn't afford one from HPS Maxine (when she did readings) so I did a money spell and randomly received enough money to purchase orders from her.

 

[Demonic Tech]

As for affording an order, there are money spells available. When I was new I couldn't afford one from HPS Maxine (when she did readings) so I did a money spell and randomly received enough money to purchase orders from her.

That is actually smart, I wonder why I didn't think of that before
Can you link me the spell please?

 

[Aquarius]

As for affording an order, there are money spells available. When I was new I couldn't afford one from HPS Maxine (when she did readings) so I did a money spell and randomly received enough money to purchase orders from her.

That is actually smart, I wonder why I didn't think of that before
Can you link me the spell please?

A little bit of indipendence mate, instead of asking her and making her waste her time you could have searched it and found it in less than a couple minute at best.

 

[Demonic Tech]

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Btw I noticed you put our RTRs in your signature, but mine has been blocked by the hosting so I had to to move it to http://final-rtr-js.epizy.com/
BUT, this new hosting sucks and it's slow, so I'll maybe try another hosting and let you know in the topic about it

 

[Demonic Tech]

A little bit of indipendence mate, instead of asking her and making her waste her time you could have searched it and found it in less than a couple minute at best.

Well, in this italian page https://www.itajos.com/X SEZIONE MEDITAZIONI/USO AURA.htm there is a link to a PDF file containing money spells, which is this https://www.itajos.com/X SEZIONE INTRO MEDITAZIONI/DENARO Incantesimi.pdf, and, as you can see, it's broken, giving 404 error

So I went to the english version of the same page, which is https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AURA.html, but there is no link to any PDF like that

The only infos I found about attracting money is to use a "green aura with shimmering gold", but that is kinda basic, and since it looks like there is a detailed PDF somewhere, I asked

BUT, while writing this post I just found the page about energetic ipnosis, and there is a pretty satisfying money work there, so it is all OK now

Definetely didn't took a couple of minutes tho :lol: but i get what you are saying, I don't think you're wrong

Still appreciate if anyone can provide the link to that PDF

 

[Stormblood]

A little bit of indipendence mate, instead of asking her and making her waste her time you could have searched it and found it in less than a couple minute at best.

Well, in this italian page https://www.itajos.com/X SEZIONE MEDITAZIONI/USO AURA.htm there is a link to a PDF file containing money spells, which is this https://www.itajos.com/X SEZIONE INTRO MEDITAZIONI/DENARO Incantesimi.pdf, and, as you can see, it's broken, giving 404 error

So I went to the english version of the same page, which is https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AURA.html, but there is no link to any PDF like that

The only infos I found about attracting money is to use a "green aura with shimmering gold", but that is kinda basic, and since it looks like there is a detailed PDF somewhere, I asked

BUT, while writing this post I just found the page about energetic ipnosis, and there is a pretty satisfying money work there, so it is all OK now

Definetely didn't took a couple of minutes tho :lol: but i get what you are saying, I don't think you're wrong

Still appreciate if anyone can provide the link to that PDF

If you go through the library, you can find it. Link to the library, which you should be already aware about, since it's on both the portals to most of the original webites: https://satanslibrary.org/Pdf_Library.html

The portals are:
https://www.satanisgod.org/
EvilGoy, which is pending move and currently unavailable.

 

[HPS Lydia]

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Btw I noticed you put our RTRs in your signature, but mine has been blocked by the hosting so I had to to move it to http://final-rtr-js.epizy.com/
BUT, this new hosting sucks and it's slow, so I'll maybe try another hosting and let you know in the topic about it

I deleted your link (until it's working again).

For money spells, HP Cobra's astrology website has the link to it, if you can't get it from the Library.

 

[Stormblood]

A little bit of indipendence mate, instead of asking her and making her waste her time you could have searched it and found it in less than a couple minute at best.

Well, in this italian page https://www.itajos.com/X SEZIONE MEDITAZIONI/USO AURA.htm there is a link to a PDF file containing money spells, which is this https://www.itajos.com/X SEZIONE INTRO MEDITAZIONI/DENARO Incantesimi.pdf, and, as you can see, it's broken, giving 404 error

So I went to the english version of the same page, which is https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AURA.html, but there is no link to any PDF like that

The only infos I found about attracting money is to use a "green aura with shimmering gold", but that is kinda basic, and since it looks like there is a detailed PDF somewhere, I asked

BUT, while writing this post I just found the page about energetic ipnosis, and there is a pretty satisfying money work there, so it is all OK now

Definetely didn't took a couple of minutes tho :lol: but i get what you are saying, I don't think you're wrong

Still appreciate if anyone can provide the link to that PDF

If you go through the library, you can find it. Link to the library, which you should be already aware about, since it's on both the portals to most of the original webites: https://satanslibrary.org/Pdf_Library.html

The portals are:
https://www.satanisgod.org/
EvilGoy, which is pending move and currently unavailable.

It's also in the Italian library, under the name: Denaro - Incantesimi

 

[Demonic Tech]

Yes guys I found it, thank you all

 

[FancyMancy]

I think I have figured out what Planet is my Natal chart ruler - if I am not mistaken, the chart ruler is the Planet which rules the Sign where the Ascendant is on/through. i.e. the Asc is going through X Sign, so that mean that Sign's ruling Planet is the chart ruler. I think I have figured that out. What I am still trying to figure out is - how can we see which Planets rule each of the Houses? Is it simply, "X Planet is the natural ruler of Y House", or does each Natal chart have its own Planets ruling each House? How can I figure out which Planets rule each of my Houses?

Thanks.

 

[Stormblood]

I think I have figured out what Planet is my Natal chart ruler - if I am not mistaken, the chart ruler is the Planet which rules the Sign where the Ascendant is on/through. i.e. the Asc is going through X Sign, so that mean that Sign's ruling Planet is the chart ruler. I think I have figured that out. What I am still trying to figure out is - how can we see which Planets rule each of the Houses? Is it simply, "X Planet is the natural ruler of Y House", or does each Natal chart have its own Planets ruling each House? How can I figure out which Planets rule each of my Houses?

Thanks.

The second one.

Simply see what sign in on the cusp of an house. For example, if Libra is on the cusp of your second house, then Venus is the ruler of that house.

 

[Ayleth]

I think I have figured out what Planet ....

As you said for every natal chart there is a different sign for house cusps and the sign’s ruling planet has power over that house. Sometimes you can have the same sign in different house cusps but the planet that rules that sign it’s the same.
If you go here: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Planetary_Rulerships.html
You can see which planet is the natural ruler of the house, so Mars for example is the natural ruler of the 1st and co-rules 8th house. (this also refers to planet position) That means it will have more influence if it’s in one of those houses.
I will take the same chart example that Powstanie Pogańskie did. He/She explained the basics beautifully. So, Mars is the chart ruler (Aries in first house cusp) and it’s in Aquarius. You also look at the house in which the ruler is positioned. This person has Mars in 11th house, so the affairs ruled by this house will have importance in life.
https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Astrology.html
But in this chart example you can see multiple planets in the first house [Moon Uranus and Pluto] so they will also be important. Moon has a powerful influence because it’s within 5 degree of an angle (0 in this case) and it’s IC rule. (4th and 5th house cusps are in cancer). Read the information on astrology multiple times you'll make sense for some of it.
If something is wrong in my explanation please bring it up, I am also trying to better understand astrology.

 

[FancyMancy]

I think I have figured out what Planet is my Natal chart ruler - if I am not mistaken, the chart ruler is the Planet which rules the Sign where the Ascendant is on/through. i.e. the Asc is going through X Sign, so that mean that Sign's ruling Planet is the chart ruler. I think I have figured that out. What I am still trying to figure out is - how can we see which Planets rule each of the Houses? Is it simply, "X Planet is the natural ruler of Y House", or does each Natal chart have its own Planets ruling each House? How can I figure out which Planets rule each of my Houses?

Thanks.

The second one.

Simply see what sign in on the cusp of an house. For example, if Libra is on the cusp of your second house, then Venus is the ruler of that house.

Thanks! That was simple - a bit too simple, lol. I might be getting a bit too literal here - by "cusp", I thought it meant within a few degrees of the beginning of the Sign. I have seen some have been further away from the beginning of the Sign. This is The Rock's Natal chart (according to an Internet search) -

https://www.astro-seek.com/photo-celebrity/19/72/5/the-rock-dwayne-johnson.png

I know the Asc is always the first House, but as you can see with the two yellow highlights I did on the left, his Asc is not on what I thought was the cusp; none of his Houses are on any of what I thought were cusps (within a few degrees of the start of the Sign). In fact, they all appear to be closer to the next Sign. So since I thought "cusp" meant within a few degrees of the beginning of a Sign, that made me confused - or does it mean from the beginning of a Sign to before the next Sign?

I think I have figured out what Planet ....

As you said for every natal chart there is a different sign for house cusps and the sign’s ruling planet has power over that house. Sometimes you can have the same sign in different house cusps but the planet that rules that sign it’s the same.
If you go here: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Planetary_Rulerships.html
You can see which planet is the natural ruler of the house, so Mars for example is the natural ruler of the 1st and co-rules 8th house. (this also refers to planet position) That means it will have more influence if it’s in one of those houses.
I will take the same chart example that Powstanie Pogańskie did. He/She explained the basics beautifully. So, Mars is the chart ruler (Aries in first house cusp) and it’s in Aquarius. You also look at the house in which the ruler is positioned. This person has Mars in 11th house, so the affairs ruled by this house will have importance in life.
https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Astrology.html
But in this chart example you can see multiple planets in the first house [Moon Uranus and Pluto] so they will also be important. Moon has a powerful influence because it’s within 5 degree of an angle (0 in this case) and it’s IC rule. (4th and 5th house cusps are in cancer).

Err... thanks...

Read the information on astrology multiple times you'll make sense for some of it.

Yes, I am, actually. I have made a bit of progress!

If something is wrong in my explanation please bring it up, I am also trying to better understand astrology.

"Blind leading the blind" comes to mind! At least we don't need a jew spitting its DNA in our eyes to "heal" us and help us see; instead, we can learn!

 

[Stormblood]

Thanks! That was simple - a bit too simple, lol. I might be getting a bit too literal here - by "cusp", I thought it meant within a few degrees of the beginning of the Sign. I have seen some have been further away from the beginning of the Sign. This is The Rock's Natal chart (according to an Internet search) -

https://www.astro-seek.com/photo-celebrity/19/72/5/the-rock-dwayne-johnson.png

I know the Asc is always the first House, but as you can see with the two yellow highlights I did on the left, his Asc is not on what I thought was the cusp; none of his Houses are on any of what I thought were cusps (within a few degrees of the start of the Sign). In fact, they all appear to be closer to the next Sign. So since I thought "cusp" meant within a few degrees of the beginning of a Sign, that made me confused - or does it mean from the beginning of a Sign to before the next Sign?

The right highlight is the cusp, yes. Look what sign that cusp touches and you got the sign that's on the cusp of that house. Signs can be intercepted, which means not all signs will be on the cusp of a house. Intercepted signs can't be seen with equal-house systems, making this house systems inaccurate.

 

[HPS Lydia]

@FancyMancy, anywhere you look, including on the JoS, it all says the ruler of the AC is your ruling planet. How did it take you years to "figure this out on your own" and you're not even certain (based on you saying "I think", and "if I'm not mistaken").

Also, the first few degrees of a sign are NOT a house cusp. The house cusp is the beginning of the house. For example, the AC is the house cusp of the 1st house. If the 2nd house begins at 17 degrees Aries, then that is the house cusp.

I suggest you use an internet search engine to search things. All basic definitions are easily found everywhere online.

 

[FancyMancy]

Thanks! That was simple - a bit too simple, lol. I might be getting a bit too literal here - by "cusp", I thought it meant within a few degrees of the beginning of the Sign. I have seen some have been further away from the beginning of the Sign. This is The Rock's Natal chart (according to an Internet search) -

https://www.astro-seek.com/photo-celebrity/19/72/5/the-rock-dwayne-johnson.png

I know the Asc is always the first House, but as you can see with the two yellow highlights I did on the left, his Asc is not on what I thought was the cusp; none of his Houses are on any of what I thought were cusps (within a few degrees of the start of the Sign). In fact, they all appear to be closer to the next Sign. So since I thought "cusp" meant within a few degrees of the beginning of a Sign, that made me confused - or does it mean from the beginning of a Sign to before the next Sign?

The right highlight is the cusp, yes. Look what sign that cusp touches and you got the sign that's on the cusp of that house.

Thanks. I thought it was the Sign in the House, rather than the House in the sign.

Signs can be intercepted, which means not all signs will be on the cusp of a house. Intercepted signs can't be seen with equal-house systems, making this house systems inaccurate.

Just when I thought I was starting to be good with some of it!

@FancyMancy, anywhere you look, including on the JoS, it all says the ruler of the AC is your ruling planet. How did it take you years to "figure this out on your own" and you're not even certain (based on you saying "I think", and "if I'm not mistaken").

Because I go at my own speed, and did things in a different order. I admit that I have sort of being...not ignoring, but trying to avoid Astrology...

Also, the first few degrees of a sign are NOT a house cusp. The house cusp is the beginning of the house. For example, the AC is the house cusp of the 1st house. If the 2nd house begins at 17 degrees Aries, then that is the house cusp.

Yeah, I realise that now. Thanks! Is there any specific significance at, as per your example, 17 degrees of Taurus, 17 degrees Gemini, etc.? Because I know Houses are not the same size/number of degrees each.

I suggest you use an internet search engine to search things. All basic definitions are easily found everywhere online.

I have. In all of my posts, I have advised next-to-nothing about Astrology, and repeatedly I have said it is difficult. I think it must be my thinking process about it, and me turning into a shrinking violet in its presence.

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

Yeah, I realise that now. Thanks! Is there any specific significance at, as per your example, 17 degrees of Taurus, 17 degrees Gemini, etc.? Because I know Houses are not the same size/number of degrees each.

Those would just be random examples of potential degrees a House cusp could fall on. I'm still a bit vague on how it works exactly, but House cusp size can vary based on time and location, from what I've seen.

Here's an example of an Alaskan chart in which the 6th and 12th Houses are massive as fuck: https://gyazo.com/d6d1c15b6755893c47cde30e50810183 This same chart, if set to 12:00 PM, will yield more conventionally-sized Houses.

 

[FancyMancy]

Yeah, I realise that now. Thanks! Is there any specific significance at, as per your example, 17 degrees of Taurus, 17 degrees Gemini, etc.? Because I know Houses are not the same size/number of degrees each.

Those would just be random examples of potential degrees a House cusp could fall on. I'm still a bit vague on how it works exactly, but House cusp size can vary based on time and location, from what I've seen.

Here's an example of an Alaskan chart in which the 6th and 12th Houses are massive as fuck: https://gyazo.com/d6d1c15b6755893c47cde30e50810183 This same chart, if set to 12:00 PM, will yield more conventionally-sized Houses.

Maybe I didn't ask it clearly. I was trying to ask if, in just the example of 17 degrees, would there be any specific significance to the same degrees, from the ASC, in each sign, as if the Houses were all equidistant, or not. I'm presuming that the answer is "no".

the 6th and 12th Houses are massive as fuck

I said "holy shit" at that, lol.

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

Yeah, I realise that now. Thanks! Is there any specific significance at, as per your example, 17 degrees of Taurus, 17 degrees Gemini, etc.? Because I know Houses are not the same size/number of degrees each.

Those would just be random examples of potential degrees a House cusp could fall on. I'm still a bit vague on how it works exactly, but House cusp size can vary based on time and location, from what I've seen.

Here's an example of an Alaskan chart in which the 6th and 12th Houses are massive as fuck: https://gyazo.com/d6d1c15b6755893c47cde30e50810183 This same chart, if set to 12:00 PM, will yield more conventionally-sized Houses.

Maybe I didn't ask it clearly. I was trying to ask if, in just the example of 17 degrees, would there be any specific significance to the same degrees, from the ASC, in each sign, as if the Houses were all equidistant, or not. I'm presuming that the answer is "no".

the 6th and 12th Houses are massive as fuck

I said "holy shit" at that, lol.

I'd say the answer probably is no, but tbh I'm not entirely sure I still understand the question. Do you mean is there any significance to the same degrees in other signs as the degree the Ascendant is at? Because if that's the question, then actually yes. I don't know about how House cusps would factor in there, but planets on the same degree as one's Ascendant form aspects to the Ascendant. Same can be said of the other three angles, the Descendant, Imum Coeli and Midheaven.