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It was a big leap on my understanding about the signs and planets and how they interact when I started linking them with things I saw/read/listened. It really helped give some honest, real background to what I read in astrology books, besides being fun. Astrological influence is everywhere.

Often actors will play parts that have a lot in common with their charts, directors will make movies about the themes of their own charts. Songs and music in general are the best, they can represent very specific astrological influences, aspects etc., with or without the lyrics. Sometimes, simple scenes even when out of context evoke the nature of a sign or planet very strongly, it's just a matter of being open to see it.

I made this list here in this boring Sunday, just for fun! No need to take this seriously, but it is accurate IMO...

Aries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0x-a1VCAg - Mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r72Sbmj2OrM - Aries woman being cute breaking stuff and singing about how many f*cks she gives about her lover, enough said I guess

Taurus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpho4ih9EwM

Gemini:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qddEqk9aXqk - Mercury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX7v6pK0lrU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NseBdxfHk5k - for more reasons than the obvious

Cancer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLlux8ICOfI - hard Moon-Pluto aspect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNbrKJ_nVZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSRs7iqAv8 - obviously

Leo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCY9BBxoLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJTrD3R5cj0 - for more from the previous video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SgZE1-BAh4

Virgo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBmPPpYkv0 - also Libra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0QrIT7WiY

Libra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc5cimL-wL8 - Venus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppynaJ_CEE4 - how Libras break up after trying everything to keep the relationship going

Scorpio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqaARDsiJv4 - very Plutonic by itself, but worth checking the lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQ98ZOulSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gla_NnNiXnw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00PdHIPjaWQ

Sagittarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BrZZP0eC3o - Jupiter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycTnExgssLM - Sagi doesn't really care when it's funny...

Capricorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZCpOgTVvc - Saturn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2ut1QkmTA

Aquarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OpAY86BIzQ - Uranus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJbltAPNGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvfRUVDDdVA

Pisces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbEc0iupSU - Neptune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfV0sVQ_VU - Mercury in Pisces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crh01jusdcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPhSapqRtw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTrk4X9ACtw

These are things I like a lot but I guess not everyone will think the same, so please share things you like and think has something in common with a sign or planet. :)
 

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<td val[/IMG]   It was a big leap on my understanding about the signs and planets and how they interact when I started linking them with things I saw/read/listened. It really helped give some honest, real background to what I read in astrology books, besides being fun. Astrological influence is everywhere.

Often actors will play parts that have a lot in common with their charts, directors will make movies about the themes of their own charts. Songs and music in general are the best, they can represent very specific astrological influences, aspects etc., with or without the lyrics. Sometimes, simple scenes even when out of context evoke the nature of a sign or planet very strongly, it's just a matter of being open to see it.

I made this list here in this boring Sunday, just for fun! No need to take this seriously, but it is accurate IMO...

Aries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0x-a1VCAg - Mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r72Sbmj2OrM - Aries woman being cute breaking stuff and singing about how many f*cks she gives about her lover, enough said I guess

Taurus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpho4ih9EwM

Gemini:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qddEqk9aXqk - Mercury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX7v6pK0lrU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NseBdxfHk5k - for more reasons than the obvious

Cancer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLlux8ICOfI - hard Moon-Pluto aspect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNbrKJ_nVZs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSRs7iqAv8 - obviously

Leo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCY9BBxoLc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJTrD3R5cj0 - for more from the previous video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SgZE1-BAh4

Virgo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBmPPpYkv0 - also Libra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0QrIT7WiY

Libra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc5cimL-wL8 - Venus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppynaJ_CEE4 - how Libras break up after trying everything to keep the relationship going

Scorpio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqaARDsiJv4 - very Plutonic by itself, but worth checking the lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQ98ZOulSo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gla_NnNiXnw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00PdHIPjaWQ

Sagittarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BrZZP0eC3o - Jupiter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycTnExgssLM - Sagi doesn't really care when it's funny...

Capricorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZCpOgTVvc - Saturn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2ut1QkmTA

Aquarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OpAY86BIzQ - Uranus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJbltAPNGA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvfRUVDDdVA

Pisces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbEc0iupSU - Neptune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfV0sVQ_VU - Mercury in Pisces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crh01jusdcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPhSapqRtw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTrk4X9ACtw

These are things I like a lot but I guess not everyone will think the same, so please share things you like and think has something in common with a sign or planet. :)

[/TD]
 
I have a very strong emphasis in Pisces, which explains the extremely strong effect music has over me. I live of music, haha. My Uranus is conjunct Neptune in the 8th house, both squaring my Aries Sun.

All this confers a very strong interest in the occult, and astrology as well, but then I have an Aquarius Moon in the 9th house of study and philosophy, which further adds to my interests in these areas, but here are many other aspects in my chart supporting this.

The music I love the most is classical. Other music I like a lot is electronic and some pop music. The latter is simple, very straightforward, catchy, works very well with my Pisces planets.

I liked the music you shared, sounds very dark, mysterious, deep, which makes sense with your Scorpio emphasis.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Astaroth my Queen <astarothmyqueen@... wrote:

Hi! I can tell u really like Astrology, its a great asset to have here btw! I wonder one thing, how is ur Natal Uranus placed? I mean in which house. I got mine in the third btw, which can indicate intrest in this. Do you got something similar that indicate your fashination? Perhaps you got stronger ties to it than that?

I feel ur on to something with this also, i never thought about it but it  makes sence, our personal taste for Music usually describes the person quite accuaretly.

I personally enjoy old trance inducing Music the Most, if u wanna check some out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw5liwUk ... ata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoQcUnh3 ... ata_player

I got a strong emphasis to scorpio in my chart, but i would not say this is the typical scorpio stuff, would you? Eitherway theres Always something going on with transists that Will throw us offbalance so i might just be confused.

Eitherway, what Sign are you and what Music Do you like the Most?  Lets see if it adds up with you :)?

Cheers..

Hail Astaroth-sama!

Hail Osiris!

Skickat från Yahoo! Mail på Android
 
ok i can see the astrological influence clearly there, how fashinating! natal charts dont lie, i will use this technique at occasion to learn about other people hehe.

u got them conjunct too? intresting. i got them one orb from eachother in my third house, all in sextiles with mars,mercury and pluto. it feels at times i could do better without that conjunction as it has set me back at some aspects.

one off-hand question, where does all you astrologers here find information and suitable books that you take information from?
i have been goin through various now and i find that"planets in transit" by Robert Hand is sufficient. have someone else read this and agree? while i appreciate Maxine´s info and find it much credible, i cant help but wonder at times where does she get it from? its not overy intune with the other books im reading about aspects, while some are more intune some are way out of line, this would change considerbly if she gets the information from Azazel ofc.

if you can name a book you find suffiecent for looking into planetary aspects and placements and everything in between, please share!

Cheers..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

I have a very strong emphasis in Pisces, which explains the extremely strong effect music has over me. I live of music, haha. My Uranus is conjunct Neptune in the 8th house, both squaring my Aries Sun.

All this confers a very strong interest in the occult, and astrology as well, but then I have an Aquarius Moon in the 9th house of study and philosophy, which further adds to my interests in these areas, but here are many other aspects in my chart supporting this.

The music I love the most is classical. Other music I like a lot is electronic and some pop music. The latter is simple, very straightforward, catchy, works very well with my Pisces planets.

I liked the music you shared, sounds very dark, mysterious, deep, which makes sense with your Scorpio emphasis.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Astaroth my Queen <astarothmyqueen@ wrote:

Hi! I can tell u really like Astrology, its a great asset to have here btw! I wonder one thing, how is ur Natal Uranus placed? I mean in which house. I got mine in the third btw, which can indicate intrest in this. Do you got something similar that indicate your fashination? Perhaps you got stronger ties to it than that?

I feel ur on to something with this also, i never thought about it but it  makes sence, our personal taste for Music usually describes the person quite accuaretly.

I personally enjoy old trance inducing Music the Most, if u wanna check some out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw5liwUk ... ata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoQcUnh3 ... ata_player

I got a strong emphasis to scorpio in my chart, but i would not say this is the typical scorpio stuff, would you? Eitherway theres Always something going on with transists that Will throw us offbalance so i might just be confused.

Eitherway, what Sign are you and what Music Do you like the Most?  Lets see if it adds up with you :)?

Cheers..

Hail Astaroth-sama!

Hail Osiris!

Skickat från Yahoo! Mail på Android
 
That conjunction is interesting because the last time it happened was so long ago that only time can tell how exactly it will act out in each person. A Uranus-Neptune conjunction is something really big, as is any major aspect between the outer planets, especially when they are both sextile Pluto, which was in its home sign during that time. There's very little info on that conjunction, it's something fresh for modern astrology.

As for the books, I haven't read Robert Hand's books (only one co-authored by him) but I've seen his work being used as reference in other books quite a lot, so I guess he is very well regarded by professional astrologers. Sucks to only have english language books available quickly through e-book stores like Amazon's kindle, which has a very limited selection...

I personally don't think any book is sufficient for referencing aspects. For beginning study sure there are, and in this case any decent book will do the job, but for general use every author provides a different point of view in each specific aspect, and using only one reference can be innacurate if you're not careful to make your own assumptions. There are so many possible outcomes to a single aspect or placement that sometimes the obvious is not right. Not to mention combinations of them.

After reading a lot of books and sites, articles on the internet about specific aspects etc. you gather so much information on these things that you automatically start to make your own interpretations, which is the best way to work with other people's charts. It really is a breakthrough on your understanding of astrology and charts in general when you can do this.

The books will always be there for specific thoughts or written evidence about the aspects. Some authors for example go very deep into the psychology of each aspect and planetary placement, others go more for the practical, immediate effects of them. All of this can happen in a person and it's obviously important to know, but in time you get your own ideas about them.

Maxine has many, many years of experience with this (thus a lot of sources and info), but providing information in bite-sized pieces like she did on those pages is very difficult. Those are general outlines for the aspects, or her general ideas about them but there are many different possibilities in each one that are better understood when seen through different viewpoints.

Here are a few books that I have here that give a lot of information about a lot of things through different lenses:

Moon Signs: The Key to Your Inner Life by Donna Cunningham
Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil by Liz Greene and Robert Hand*
The Twelve Houses by Howard Sasportas*
Retrograde Planets: Traversing the Inner Landscape by Erin Sullivan
Saturn in Transit: Boundaries of Mind, Body and Soul by Erin Sullivan*
Astrology, Karma and Transformation: The Inner Dimensions of the Birth Chart by Stephen Arroyo*
Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark by Bernadette Brady
Predicting Events with Astrology by Celeste Teal

Obviously that's a lot of stuff but the ones I marked with the * are the ones that gave me the most clarifying and interesting ideas. Books on predictive astrology are good as well because they focus on the planetary interactions and some of them go deep in the various possible meanings of each aspect.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "astarothmyqueen" <astarothmyqueen@... wrote:

ok i can see the astrological influence clearly there, how fashinating! natal charts dont lie, i will use this technique at occasion to learn about other people hehe.

u got them conjunct too? intresting. i got them one orb from eachother in my third house, all in sextiles with mars,mercury and pluto. it feels at times i could do better without that conjunction as it has set me back at some aspects.

one off-hand question, where does all you astrologers here find information and suitable books that you take information from?

i have been goin through various now and i find that"planets in transit" by Robert Hand is sufficient. have someone else read this and agree? while i appreciate Maxine´s info and find it much credible, i cant help but wonder at times where does she get it from? its not overy intune with the other books im reading about aspects, while some are more intune some are way out of line, this would change considerbly if she gets the information from Azazel ofc.

if you can name a book you find suffiecent for looking into planetary aspects and placements and everything in between, please share!

Cheers..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

I have a very strong emphasis in Pisces, which explains the extremely strong effect music has over me. I live of music, haha. My Uranus is conjunct Neptune in the 8th house, both squaring my Aries Sun.

All this confers a very strong interest in the occult, and astrology as well, but then I have an Aquarius Moon in the 9th house of study and philosophy, which further adds to my interests in these areas, but here are many other aspects in my chart supporting this.

The music I love the most is classical. Other music I like a lot is electronic and some pop music. The latter is simple, very straightforward, catchy, works very well with my Pisces planets.

I liked the music you shared, sounds very dark, mysterious, deep, which makes sense with your Scorpio emphasis.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Astaroth my Queen <astarothmyqueen@ wrote:

Hi! I can tell u really like Astrology, its a great asset to have here btw! I wonder one thing, how is ur Natal Uranus placed? I mean in which house. I got mine in the third btw, which can indicate intrest in this. Do you got something similar that indicate your fashination? Perhaps you got stronger ties to it than that?

I feel ur on to something with this also, i never thought about it but it  makes sence, our personal taste for Music usually describes the person quite accuaretly.

I personally enjoy old trance inducing Music the Most, if u wanna check some out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw5liwUk ... ata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoQcUnh3 ... ata_player

I got a strong emphasis to scorpio in my chart, but i would not say this is the typical scorpio stuff, would you? Eitherway theres Always something going on with transists that Will throw us offbalance so i might just be confused.

Eitherway, what Sign are you and what Music Do you like the Most?  Lets see if it adds up with you :)?

Cheers..

Hail Astaroth-sama!

Hail Osiris!

Skickat från Yahoo! Mail på Android
 
thanks for providing good refferences, i will look into them. i actually got some books by Cunningham now that i think of it. i did not mean to discredit Maxine in anyway just to clarify*
agree, i would have a very hard time explaining planetary placements and aspects with that the little space she used, good job nevertheless.

its rather intressting this, i have already had the opportunity to lay horoscopes for some friends for the sake of it, think ill do that sometime.

one thing i have thought about some time since coming here aswell(if u dont mind?)

the planet Saturn i think has been long identifioed as the black sheep of the solar system would you not say? i can see this tendency in other astrology books aswell, although not too many, but its still noticable. it has been labeled as evil and destructive and in so many cases as "bad" in general? i can see similar opinions in the jos astrology too, but somewhat diminished.

did you know if these opinions were raised by a certain reason?

what are your thoughts on this? sure Saturn is restrictive, but also thorough and diciplined, i can not imagine how i would have acted if i did not have my saturn to restrict a big conjunction i got in my natal. i think this goes the same for others aswell after some deeper thinking on it, i would not label Saturn as bad at all.

sure it does restrict and can lessen the effect of a promising conjunction, but so can allt he planets in their own way right? i would label Mars just as equally "bad" in its own way if not worse if i found that it affected a strong conjunction in ones natal.

its just yin/yang in my opinion, opposite sides of a balanced center. what do you say about this? being more advanced that i who just started out i appreciate any advice and thoughts to improve.


lastly: if you do find music to be such a part of your life, you should strongly concider learning to play an instrument( if u have not already). i did so as i find music to be such a big part of my life too, i picked up a bass guitar almost 4 years ago and i dont regret it at all( seeing we both got this intresst). suprisingly enough it does aid you spiritually too, by using your own creativity.

Cheers..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

That conjunction is interesting because the last time it happened was so long ago that only time can tell how exactly it will act out in each person. A Uranus-Neptune conjunction is something really big, as is any major aspect between the outer planets, especially when they are both sextile Pluto, which was in its home sign during that time. There's very little info on that conjunction, it's something fresh for modern astrology.

As for the books, I haven't read Robert Hand's books (only one co-authored by him) but I've seen his work being used as reference in other books quite a lot, so I guess he is very well regarded by professional astrologers. Sucks to only have english language books available quickly through e-book stores like Amazon's kindle, which has a very limited selection...

I personally don't think any book is sufficient for referencing aspects. For beginning study sure there are, and in this case any decent book will do the job, but for general use every author provides a different point of view in each specific aspect, and using only one reference can be innacurate if you're not careful to make your own assumptions. There are so many possible outcomes to a single aspect or placement that sometimes the obvious is not right. Not to mention combinations of them.

After reading a lot of books and sites, articles on the internet about specific aspects etc. you gather so much information on these things that you automatically start to make your own interpretations, which is the best way to work with other people's charts. It really is a breakthrough on your understanding of astrology and charts in general when you can do this.

The books will always be there for specific thoughts or written evidence about the aspects. Some authors for example go very deep into the psychology of each aspect and planetary placement, others go more for the practical, immediate effects of them. All of this can happen in a person and it's obviously important to know, but in time you get your own ideas about them.

Maxine has many, many years of experience with this (thus a lot of sources and info), but providing information in bite-sized pieces like she did on those pages is very difficult. Those are general outlines for the aspects, or her general ideas about them but there are many different possibilities in each one that are better understood when seen through different viewpoints.

Here are a few books that I have here that give a lot of information about a lot of things through different lenses:

Moon Signs: The Key to Your Inner Life by Donna Cunningham
Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil by Liz Greene and Robert Hand*
The Twelve Houses by Howard Sasportas*
Retrograde Planets: Traversing the Inner Landscape by Erin Sullivan
Saturn in Transit: Boundaries of Mind, Body and Soul by Erin Sullivan*
Astrology, Karma and Transformation: The Inner Dimensions of the Birth Chart by Stephen Arroyo*
Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark by Bernadette Brady
Predicting Events with Astrology by Celeste Teal

Obviously that's a lot of stuff but the ones I marked with the * are the ones that gave me the most clarifying and interesting ideas. Books on predictive astrology are good as well because they focus on the planetary interactions and some of them go deep in the various possible meanings of each aspect.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "astarothmyqueen" <astarothmyqueen@ wrote:

ok i can see the astrological influence clearly there, how fashinating! natal charts dont lie, i will use this technique at occasion to learn about other people hehe.

u got them conjunct too? intresting. i got them one orb from eachother in my third house, all in sextiles with mars,mercury and pluto. it feels at times i could do better without that conjunction as it has set me back at some aspects.

one off-hand question, where does all you astrologers here find information and suitable books that you take information from?

i have been goin through various now and i find that"planets in transit" by Robert Hand is sufficient. have someone else read this and agree? while i appreciate Maxine´s info and find it much credible, i cant help but wonder at times where does she get it from? its not overy intune with the other books im reading about aspects, while some are more intune some are way out of line, this would change considerbly if she gets the information from Azazel ofc.

if you can name a book you find suffiecent for looking into planetary aspects and placements and everything in between, please share!

Cheers..

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

I have a very strong emphasis in Pisces, which explains the extremely strong effect music has over me. I live of music, haha. My Uranus is conjunct Neptune in the 8th house, both squaring my Aries Sun.

All this confers a very strong interest in the occult, and astrology as well, but then I have an Aquarius Moon in the 9th house of study and philosophy, which further adds to my interests in these areas, but here are many other aspects in my chart supporting this.

The music I love the most is classical. Other music I like a lot is electronic and some pop music. The latter is simple, very straightforward, catchy, works very well with my Pisces planets.

I liked the music you shared, sounds very dark, mysterious, deep, which makes sense with your Scorpio emphasis.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Astaroth my Queen <astarothmyqueen@ wrote:

Hi! I can tell u really like Astrology, its a great asset to have here btw! I wonder one thing, how is ur Natal Uranus placed? I mean in which house. I got mine in the third btw, which can indicate intrest in this. Do you got something similar that indicate your fashination? Perhaps you got stronger ties to it than that?

I feel ur on to something with this also, i never thought about it but it  makes sence, our personal taste for Music usually describes the person quite accuaretly.

I personally enjoy old trance inducing Music the Most, if u wanna check some out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw5liwUk ... ata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoQcUnh3 ... ata_player

I got a strong emphasis to scorpio in my chart, but i would not say this is the typical scorpio stuff, would you? Eitherway theres Always something going on with transists that Will throw us offbalance so i might just be confused.

Eitherway, what Sign are you and what Music Do you like the Most?  Lets see if it adds up with you :)?

Cheers..

Hail Astaroth-sama!

Hail Osiris!

Skickat från Yahoo! Mail på Android
 
It's really good to try and read other people's charts, you learn a huge lot doing that.

Saturn: a lot is said about it, and there's a lot of conflicting information about it, but I personally say it's a "necessary" evil. Necessary in the sense that it puts people and things in their places, and makes the world go round. It is difficult for -everyone-, not a minority.

It helps bring improvements (it is the traditional ruler of Aquarius, the rebel/overman) through challenges and disciplines people to overcome them, but sometimes brings pure suffering.

In an ideal world, Saturn's evil effects wouldn't be a problem at all because people would just be wise and powerful enough to overcome them automatically. However, because of the enemy, people became nearly powerless to it, and thus suffer the worst from its energies.

In the end it really is all about balance as you said though, without Saturn there simply wouldn't be order. Saturn being exalted in Libra, the sign of balance and order seems just about right. Jupiter and Saturn are the balancers of the system, the principles of expansion and contraction, young and old, growth and downfall... also joy and misery.

Now for the music, I used to be a violinist, even had plans to make a career out of music. Those years were extremely good for me and, interestingly, I experienced a huge spiritual growth during that period as well. My energy was flowing very well, and so was my creativity, I even used to write little pieces of my own. Had to stop due to some issues and never returned, and to be honest now that I think back things started getting difficult pretty much exactly when I stopped playing. I should probably have tried harder to keep on going.

I've really been thinking about coming back for quite some time, but there are so many things out of place in my life right now, I guess I need to take care of one thing at a time lol. I really don't like doing things halfway, if I'm coming back, I want to do it entirely.

Music is extremely good for your energies, and this is especially true for those who are more sensitive (with many Water planets). Many people don't give a damn about this, or say this is simply a hobby, but for some people music really is part of them. I get extremely depressed and anxious when I can't listen to music I like for extended periods of time, music keeps me going.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "astarothmyqueen" <astarothmyqueen@... wrote:

thanks for providing good refferences, i will look into them. i actually got some books by Cunningham now that i think of it. i did not mean to discredit Maxine in anyway just to clarify*

agree, i would have a very hard time explaining planetary placements and aspects with that the little space she used, good job nevertheless.

its rather intressting this, i have already had the opportunity to lay horoscopes for some friends for the sake of it, think ill do that sometime.

one thing i have thought about some time since coming here aswell(if u dont mind?)

the planet Saturn i think has been long identifioed as the black sheep of the solar system would you not say? i can see this tendency in other astrology books aswell, although not too many, but its still noticable. it has been labeled as evil and destructive and in so many cases as "bad" in general? i can see similar opinions in the jos astrology too, but somewhat diminished.

did you know if these opinions were raised by a certain reason?

what are your thoughts on this? sure Saturn is restrictive, but also thorough and diciplined, i can not imagine how i would have acted if i did not have my saturn to restrict a big conjunction i got in my natal. i think this goes the same for others aswell after some deeper thinking on it, i would not label Saturn as bad at all.

sure it does restrict and can lessen the effect of a promising conjunction, but so can allt he planets in their own way right? i would label Mars just as equally "bad" in its own way if not worse if i found that it affected a strong conjunction in ones natal.

its just yin/yang in my opinion, opposite sides of a balanced center. what do you say about this? being more advanced that i who just started out i appreciate any advice and thoughts to improve.


lastly: if you do find music to be such a part of your life, you should strongly concider learning to play an instrument( if u have not already). i did so as i find music to be such a big part of my life too, i picked up a bass guitar almost 4 years ago and i dont regret it at all( seeing we both got this intresst). suprisingly enough it does aid you spiritually too, by using your own creativity.

Cheers..
 
Okay okay heheh I have an example too, I agree with your post:)

The singer of Aiden a very "emo" band. The songs pretty much revolve around relationships and personal suffering, with a lot of intensity too. But some are just kind of "off the wall". This guy has Pluto Saturn and mars all conjunct in Libra, Jupiter in Scorpio, and mercury conjunct Venus in Aquarius.
The video "one love" fits this so perfectly.
See if you totally see the pieces!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCznSv ... ata_player
I just picked that at total random and decided I'd see what's up. At first I guessed Pisces but this is way better.

Then for me.. well I have a Uranus ruler Jupiter co ruler and I made..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70pkZj- ... ata_player
I hope that link works.
My horse (saggitarius) was really sleepy and I started having fun with it and my friend wanted to get it on video xD not sure if the Uranus comes in but... well. Hm. Maybe the fact it was put online.
Since videos play into this I thought I'd take mine and see where it fits :p

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

It was a big leap on my understanding about the signs and planets and how they interact when I started linking them with things I saw/read/listened. It really helped give some honest, real background to what I read in astrology books, besides being fun. Astrological influence is everywhere.

Often actors will play parts that have a lot in common with their charts, directors will make movies about the themes of their own charts. Songs and music in general are the best, they can represent very specific astrological influences, aspects etc., with or without the lyrics. Sometimes, simple scenes even when out of context evoke the nature of a sign or planet very strongly, it's just a matter of being open to see it.

I made this list here in this boring Sunday, just for fun! No need to take this seriously, but it is accurate IMO...

Aries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0x-a1VCAg - Mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r72Sbmj2OrM - Aries woman being cute breaking stuff and singing about how many f*cks she gives about her lover, enough said I guess

Taurus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpho4ih9EwM

Gemini:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qddEqk9aXqk - Mercury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX7v6pK0lrU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NseBdxfHk5k - for more reasons than the obvious

Cancer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLlux8ICOfI - hard Moon-Pluto aspect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNbrKJ_nVZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSRs7iqAv8 - obviously

Leo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCY9BBxoLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJTrD3R5cj0 - for more from the previous video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SgZE1-BAh4

Virgo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBmPPpYkv0 - also Libra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0QrIT7WiY

Libra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc5cimL-wL8 - Venus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppynaJ_CEE4 - how Libras break up after trying everything to keep the relationship going

Scorpio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqaARDsiJv4 - very Plutonic by itself, but worth checking the lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQ98ZOulSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gla_NnNiXnw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00PdHIPjaWQ

Sagittarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BrZZP0eC3o - Jupiter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycTnExgssLM - Sagi doesn't really care when it's funny...

Capricorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZCpOgTVvc - Saturn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2ut1QkmTA

Aquarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OpAY86BIzQ - Uranus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJbltAPNGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvfRUVDDdVA

Pisces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbEc0iupSU - Neptune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfV0sVQ_VU - Mercury in Pisces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crh01jusdcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPhSapqRtw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTrk4X9ACtw

These are things I like a lot but I guess not everyone will think the same, so please share things you like and think has something in common with a sign or planet. :)
 
The most noticeable in my opinion was the Moonlight Sonata. Brilliant.

A great movie -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQKs169Sl0I

Well this is only the trailer but watching the full movie, I have felt Pluto-Saturn energies the most. What is your opinion?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

It was a big leap on my understanding about the signs and planets and how they interact when I started linking them with things I saw/read/listened. It really helped give some honest, real background to what I read in astrology books, besides being fun. Astrological influence is everywhere.

Often actors will play parts that have a lot in common with their charts, directors will make movies about the themes of their own charts. Songs and music in general are the best, they can represent very specific astrological influences, aspects etc., with or without the lyrics. Sometimes, simple scenes even when out of context evoke the nature of a sign or planet very strongly, it's just a matter of being open to see it.

I made this list here in this boring Sunday, just for fun! No need to take this seriously, but it is accurate IMO...

Aries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0x-a1VCAg - Mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r72Sbmj2OrM - Aries woman being cute breaking stuff and singing about how many f*cks she gives about her lover, enough said I guess

Taurus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpho4ih9EwM

Gemini:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qddEqk9aXqk - Mercury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX7v6pK0lrU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NseBdxfHk5k - for more reasons than the obvious

Cancer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLlux8ICOfI - hard Moon-Pluto aspect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNbrKJ_nVZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSRs7iqAv8 - obviously

Leo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCY9BBxoLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJTrD3R5cj0 - for more from the previous video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SgZE1-BAh4

Virgo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBmPPpYkv0 - also Libra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0QrIT7WiY

Libra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc5cimL-wL8 - Venus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppynaJ_CEE4 - how Libras break up after trying everything to keep the relationship going

Scorpio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqaARDsiJv4 - very Plutonic by itself, but worth checking the lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQ98ZOulSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gla_NnNiXnw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00PdHIPjaWQ

Sagittarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BrZZP0eC3o - Jupiter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycTnExgssLM - Sagi doesn't really care when it's funny...

Capricorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZCpOgTVvc - Saturn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2ut1QkmTA

Aquarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OpAY86BIzQ - Uranus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJbltAPNGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvfRUVDDdVA

Pisces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbEc0iupSU - Neptune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfV0sVQ_VU - Mercury in Pisces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crh01jusdcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPhSapqRtw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTrk4X9ACtw

These are things I like a lot but I guess not everyone will think the same, so please share things you like and think has something in common with a sign or planet. :)
 
I haven't watched the movie but that was certainly very Pluto-Saturn, even the name. Add a pinch of 12th house and we're done.

I was listening to this the other day and realized it sounded extremely Mars-Saturn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ94E6oqvrE

Well, she should know. She has Mars in Capricorn sextile Saturn in Pisces.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hailazazel" <hailazazel@... wrote:

The most noticeable in my opinion was the Moonlight Sonata. Brilliant.

A great movie -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQKs169Sl0I

Well this is only the trailer but watching the full movie, I have felt Pluto-Saturn energies the most. What is your opinion?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

It was a big leap on my understanding about the signs and planets and how they interact when I started linking them with things I saw/read/listened. It really helped give some honest, real background to what I read in astrology books, besides being fun. Astrological influence is everywhere.

Often actors will play parts that have a lot in common with their charts, directors will make movies about the themes of their own charts. Songs and music in general are the best, they can represent very specific astrological influences, aspects etc., with or without the lyrics. Sometimes, simple scenes even when out of context evoke the nature of a sign or planet very strongly, it's just a matter of being open to see it.

I made this list here in this boring Sunday, just for fun! No need to take this seriously, but it is accurate IMO...

Aries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0x-a1VCAg - Mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r72Sbmj2OrM - Aries woman being cute breaking stuff and singing about how many f*cks she gives about her lover, enough said I guess

Taurus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpho4ih9EwM

Gemini:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qddEqk9aXqk - Mercury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX7v6pK0lrU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NseBdxfHk5k - for more reasons than the obvious

Cancer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLlux8ICOfI - hard Moon-Pluto aspect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNbrKJ_nVZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSRs7iqAv8 - obviously

Leo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCY9BBxoLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJTrD3R5cj0 - for more from the previous video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SgZE1-BAh4

Virgo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBmPPpYkv0 - also Libra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0QrIT7WiY

Libra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc5cimL-wL8 - Venus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppynaJ_CEE4 - how Libras break up after trying everything to keep the relationship going

Scorpio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqaARDsiJv4 - very Plutonic by itself, but worth checking the lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQ98ZOulSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gla_NnNiXnw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00PdHIPjaWQ

Sagittarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BrZZP0eC3o - Jupiter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycTnExgssLM - Sagi doesn't really care when it's funny...

Capricorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZCpOgTVvc - Saturn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2ut1QkmTA

Aquarius:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OpAY86BIzQ - Uranus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJbltAPNGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvfRUVDDdVA

Pisces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbEc0iupSU - Neptune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfV0sVQ_VU - Mercury in Pisces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crh01jusdcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPhSapqRtw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTrk4X9ACtw

These are things I like a lot but I guess not everyone will think the same, so please share things you like and think has something in common with a sign or planet. :)
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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