TRAITOR

[Sam1]

Hello comrades of Satan!
Recently a person I knew who was in my coven said told me that he quit being a Spiritual Satanist. He told me that he revoked his oath to Satan, and his oath to me as his coven leader. Prior to this I had to baby him the whole way. Everyday I had to ask him "did you meditate today?" "Did you start the 40 day program yet?" A few weeks before he told me this he stopped meditating. He is now descending into degeneracy. I told him that this is a crucial time for us SS and that he is a coward. Do I have the all clear to curse this traitor? And if not what should I do?
HAIL SATAN!!

 

[the_fire_starter666]

You can't really revoke the dedication ritual. It's permanent. HP Maxine mentioned it that once a person the dedication ritual, he's a dedicated SS forever. There's no going back. He might not want Satan because he becomes brainwashed by xians or whatever, it's okay, Satan will temporary leave him if he doesn't want him, but after death he'll be escorted to Duat pretty much like Dedicated Satanists do. It still counts as if he's a dedicated Satanist. Unless of course he was an infiltrator from the start, a jew, and was here to infiltrate.

 

[dalightskin]

It is up to you whether or not to curse him, but before this see if you can bring him back to our side.

 

[arsenal9408]

This problem od your occured couse of your bad decision making. It stand clear that as a coven leader you focus on getting strong people in it. Not a fool that needs babysitting. Its in the jos websit as you can read on picking memebers.

 

[mightchaos]

Perhaps. Or you could witness the desperate and pittiful look on his face when he comes crawling back to Satan begging for forgiveness, When the end of this Jewish controled world comes to its end with us as the Victors Then you can laugh at him for being weak. Just a thought by all means go head a curse him, but don't end him, is what I'm trying to say.

HAIL SATAN

 

[Amaterasu Inferno]

If that's his choice meh maybe let him be, it's said people who have done reverse dedication rituals end up crying back. However he is now a threat to your privacy and perhaps safety and many other things that you have to consider. This is why I don't meet with other Satanists ._.


On Saturday, June 6, 2015 5:52 PM, "Sam sam.hinkley17@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Hello comrades of Satan!
Recently a person I knew who was in my coven said told me that he quit being a Spiritual Satanist. He told me that he revoked his oath to Satan, and his oath to me as his coven leader. Prior to this I had to baby him the whole way. Everyday I had to ask him "did you meditate today?" "Did you start the 40 day program yet?" A few weeks before he told me this he stopped meditating. He is now descending into degeneracy. I told him that this is a crucial time for us SS and that he is a coward. Do I have the all clear to curse this traitor? And if not what should I do?
HAIL SATAN!!

 

[Hou ssem]

He cursed himself by stopping to meditate


if possible change the location where you all meet to protect the
other members in case this fella is an infiltrator/ jew.




On 6/6/15, Sam sam.hinkley17@... [JoyofSatan666]
<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Hello comrades of Satan!
Recently a person I knew who was in my coven said told me that he quit being
a Spiritual Satanist. He told me that he revoked his oath to Satan, and his
oath to me as his coven leader. Prior to this I had to baby him the whole
way. Everyday I had to ask him "did you meditate today?" "Did you start the
40 day program yet?" A few weeks before he told me this he stopped
meditating. He is now descending into degeneracy. I told him that this is a
crucial time for us SS and that he is a coward. Do I have the all clear to
curse this traitor? And if not what should I do?
HAIL SATAN!!

 

[Sam1]

Okay, I'll try to tell him that. And he is no infiltrator. Thanks a lot.HAIL SATAN!!   

On Jun 7, 2015, at 0:55, "j.l3mm0n@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  You can't really revoke the dedication ritual. It's permanent. HP Maxine mentioned it that once a person the dedication ritual, he's a dedicated SS forever. There's no going back. He might not want Satan because he becomes brainwashed by xians or whatever, it's okay, Satan will temporary leave him if he doesn't want him, but after death he'll be escorted to Duat pretty much like Dedicated Satanists do. It still counts as if he's a dedicated Satanist. Unless of course he was an infiltrator from the start, a jew, and was here to infiltrate.

 

[mancunianninja]

I just read this comment just apply the saying to him: 
"Satan doesn't push himself on anyone nor does he have time for someone who's running back and fourth from him and the enemy.

If you decide you don't wanna be with Satan anymore and go back with the enemy I believe you won't have Satans protection anymore and the enemy can attack you or try to use you to scare others away.

Satan isn't like the Christian "god" he won't punish you for not wanting to be on his side. . but anyone who left Satan would damn themselves as they wouldn't reach the magnum opus and may surely fall into the hands of the enemy."
And with what the_fire_starter666 said I guess it is up to you. If it does not work, he is to powerful, or the Gods are stopping you from doing the cursing. I guess.

 

[richardlesterhailsatan11]

@The_Fire_Starter666
The ritual is permanent and you are stuck with Satan forever? Uhmm, isn't that kind of going against a person's free will though? Sounds like Satan pretty much owns that person's soul... I thought Satan wanted us to own our own souls?

 

[call_me_something_else]

With all due respect the_fire_starter666 is mistaken.

A person CAN truly renounce Satan and, in so doing, Satan will let them go on to their tormentors.


I'd guess though, most who claim this are really likes in the first place, hoping to lie to Gentiles.

For a dedicated Satanist to betray Satan, they'd actually only be betraying themselves. The jew will not treat them with any regard, as they hate all Gentiles viscerally.

And, to know what we know about jews, and then turn back to them?

I just can't reconcile such an idea.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

@r[/IMG]I renounce his foul, odious, and rotten holy spirit.[/I]  is to ensure that you renounce the xianity hoax permanent. All xian sects agree that once you have performed the unforgivable sin you can no longer be "saved".

This is even mentioned in JoS as well as a post by HP Maxine. HP Maxine said in that post:
The answer is right in the text: 'These people wrote to me because after several months, they were begging for Satan to take them back. The enemy did absolutely nothing for them. All were extremely regretful they ever left and very desperate to come back.' Note *desperate.
So much for the reverse ritual. 

He will leave them on their own and not bother with them if they feel that way, but their soul still belongs to him and I also know that the Powers of Hell will come for anyone who has dedicated their soul at their time of death. 

Just like the lyrics in the Eagle's 'Hotel California' song: 'You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.'

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ages/72851  

 

[the_fire_starter666]

@call_me_something_else: Are you saying HP Maxine is mistaken? Because HP Maxine said tha originally, this previous post of mine was merely a carry over of what HP Maxine said. She indeed said that. See this post:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ages/72851  

 

[call_me_something_else]

I just can't understand why anyone would want to go back.

Really. Knowing what I know now, I'd rather die, first.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

@call_me_something_else: BTW I hope I don't get misunderstood: that person CAN renounce Satan temporarily (meaning to be out of his protection) but can't really revoke or reverse the ritual permanently. As HP Maxine said, that person will still be escorted by our Gods to Duat after he dies like dedicated SS's do. It doesn't reverse the ritual. Sure Satan can abandon him temporarily if he feels he doesn't want Satan.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

@richardlesterhailsatan11: It's also not a matter of free will, but of personal responsibility. Spiritual Satanism is for responsible people who honor their oaths and promises, such as the dedication ritual. The ritual is permanent and doesn't give any room for bitching out of it, so it's not for those who are irresponsible. Oaths were always permanent in the ancient world. They would prefer to die than walk out of an oath they'd given. So more a holy oath given to a God. Giving an oath to a God and dishonoring it was the worst you could do.

 

[call_me_something_else]

No, the_fire_starter666, you're correct.

I'm the one in the wrong here.

Even if someone (for some unfathomable reason) really wanted to undedicate, they can't. Not really.

They might think they did - and Satan would let them, probably. But, we belong to Him.

I just mis-read it.
Thanks.

 

[immortal111777]

@call_me_something_else I really have to agree with you on that one since dedicating I have been able to understand things that were always confusing to me. The truths you learn are actually scary in some ways to think that we lived like that. Like savages. Like sheep to the slaughter. Hail Satan there is no going back im not sure why you would want to go back??

 

[vtorres.smile99]

I think you should respect him as an individual and allow him to exercise his free will. What he does is his decision and just because he won't bend to your will doesn't mean you should make him. Maybe instead of jumping to the conclusion that he is a traitor, ask him why he is renouncing Satan and the coven. Who knows. Maybe he's overwhelmed or doesn't feel like meditating anymore or something else. Ask! Besides, your coven is only as strong as your weakest link. He would probably drag you all down. Let him go so your coven can rise up. In my opinion, black magick is more for justice rather than hurting people who make you angry. He isn't attacking you guys or anything. He's just parting ways. And you might think, "Oh well he's betraying Satan!" SATAN IS A GOD. You do NOT need to avenge him. If Satan wants to deal with him, he will.

 

[[email protected]]

Well,and,no disrespect family, you can reverse the ritual and satan WILL leave you be. I remember maxine wrote it. Satan doesn't force himself on ANYONE.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:55 AM, j.l3mm0n@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  You can't really revoke the dedication ritual. It's permanent. HP Maxine mentioned it that once a person the dedication ritual, he's a dedicated SS forever. There's no going back. He might not want Satan because he becomes brainwashed by xians or whatever, it's okay, Satan will temporary leave him if he doesn't want him, but after death he'll be escorted to Duat pretty much like Dedicated Satanists do. It still counts as if he's a dedicated Satanist. Unless of course he was an infiltrator from the start, a jew, and was here to infiltrate.

 

[aldric.strickland88]

Satanism is all about free will. Let him go his own way, remember as hooded cobra stated in his book satanic revelations, the gods do not force anyone to do anything. He was a phychic vampire anyway and you are better off without him. He was not intentionally draining you, but people like that drain you naturally through their own aura, without really meaning too. Fire starter is right in his claims about the ritual being permanent, maxine mentioned that the people that did the reversal were able to come back as he never really left them completely. 
 Just don't freak out and let him go his own way. Also, not a good idea too mention you have a coven, secrecy remember. But, good luck to you and I'm glad to hear you are trying so hard. 

 

[fake name]

Why the fuck would ANYONE want to go back to xianity after becoming a Satanist?!Church is so fucking BORING it makes you WANT to die!



On Monday, June 8, 2015 12:17 AM, "no.state@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  I just can't understand why anyone would want to go back.

Really. Knowing what I know now, I'd rather die, first.

 

[mreierson98]

Hey Sam,
  Our beloved Father accepts us as we are, I would let him go and if he see's how blind he's being he will return. He knows the truth, when he see's lies out in the world everywhere he will probably want to come back to Father, also hard times are about to fall on the world and people are going to get desperate looking for leadership. He knows where to turn when he becomes afflicted. Father Satan doesn't use fear to control us, he lets us make our own choices.
                                                                                                             Hail Father Satan!                                                                                                                   Hail All Hell!

 

[the_fire_starter666]

@fake name: They want to go back to christinsanity probably because they get brainwashing or scare tactics from their xian friends or parents. Someone tells them BS like "you're gonna burn in a pool of fire when you die".

 

[I am Back]

take it from someone who has had their own issue and moment of weakness he will be back it might take awhile but he will i had a moment when i was really drunk that i yelled at the gods to leave me alone and yes they left me alone after i sobered up for a few days i understood what i had done and spent a year paying for it.(in my eyes i felt that i didnt deserve to work with the gods after that and forced myself to work on becoming worthy again in my eyes) before i could accept working along side father.by all means im not proud of that i just wanted to try to give you insight into how that may work out but then again everyone is different



On Monday, June 8, 2015 4:49 PM, "mreierson98@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Hey Sam,
  Our beloved Father accepts us as we are, I would let him go and if he see's how blind he's being he will return. He knows the truth, when he see's lies out in the world everywhere he will probably want to come back to Father, also hard times are about to fall on the world and people are going to get desperate looking for leadership. He knows where to turn when he becomes afflicted. Father Satan doesn't use fear to control us, he lets us make our own choices.
                                                                                                             Hail Father Satan!                                                                                                                   Hail All Hell!

 

[magnum.arcanum]

1.  You can't revoke your oath to Satan.
2.  Stop mediating Spiritual Satanists.
3.  Mediating a person, will take away a persons ability to make independent and logical choices, therefore any cursing would be immoral. 

 

[muzomachiko]

Am new here......any tour guide

 

[aldric.strickland88]

Aww I am back or whatever your yahoo name is. The enemy has done this too you. Remember alcohol makes us vulnerable. The enemy hit you when you were drunk and got you to react, remember alcohol reduces our inhibitors. You do things you wouldn't normally do. Then they instilled guilt into you, this was all their plan, know this. Father satan is a being who is over five hundred thousand years old. Things do not affect him, he only looks at you with an open heart. Wanting to help you. He's not worried about your random moment of weakness, he only cares what's in your heart. To fix this just reach out to him and say, I dedicate my soul to you father satan forever, your will is my will, I am sorry for what I have done, please forgive me. Satan will understand and see. You will probably feel a strong love energy hit you, this is your answer. Good luck.

 

[kunoshigami]

Yup.the alcohol...........used to read about it when I was a Christian. Neither Christian or satanism promotes alcohol..........but you know what? When you actually are in the merge of feelings.......you don't give a shit .......lol .take asahi .it relaxes you enough without altering your feelings.