"The multi orgasmic man"

[Taurus666]

I came across this book written by Mantak Chia. Basically he explains how ejaculation needs to be separated from orgasm since with semen energy is also wasted, and it teaches techniques to circulate the energy through the "microcosmic orbit" (like the Big Draw).
I'd like to ask if someone else knows mantak chia's work, and I wanted to know if this practice is corrupted, or harmful in any way. I would also need a few clarifications from someone who is following teachings and exercises from this book, and a general opinion on semen retention, orgasm energy circulation, multiple orgasms, and the microcosmic orbit.
Thanks
HAIL SATAN

 

[Luna Black]

In short yes the male body can have multiple orgasms and chain of orgasms.
Sexual energy should to be programmed like any other.

 

[Luna Black]

Btw the title of the topic is quite hilarious.

 

[Aquarius]

Semen retention is unhealthy

 

[satanicthrillz]

Okay so I was the first one I believe to bring up this book. I was going to make the exact same post as you (the owner of the thread sorry I am typing and cannot find your name.) Sure there is some cool factual stuff in there from SUPPOSIDLY 8,000 year old chinese practices. Mantak chia and has actually harmed me I have almost all his books. aquarius did say stay with with joyofsatan meditations, why would you not after doing yoga for awhile everyday that alone you feel like an iron man (what more power do you want), then listen to your body, when you feel the urge to do some working out do it. The secret is just build energy everyday and not many people know this...but us....
HE says the immortal body is actually the spirit and by doing all of "his" meditations you are just strengthening your soul for a good spirit body for your death, so this guy doesn't even believe in immortality.
Chia states that he is pro semen retention and that some of his students could not withstand not having organsms, then he states that there is a practice that he teaches where you can retain your semen but be sexually active by peaking/edging a few times, and is considered an "orgasm" he said it just isn't as intense as a real orgasm. One thing I don't like about what he does is copyright his books when his story goes he was just given most of the information in chinese writings that he translated. The only reason why I got into Mantak chia was because of his taoist elixers book I lost that book and then refound it. My experience with him was not good and I have a feeling to just stay away from his books so I will.

 

[Jack]

Semen retention is unhealthy

No one is talking about semen retention. Its about having multiple orgasms to charge the working again and again and ejaculating ultimately when you have a full body orgasm. A must for anyone who practices sex magick.

 

[NinRick]

I came across this book written by Mantak Chia. Basically he explains how ejaculation needs to be separated from orgasm since with semen energy is also wasted, and it teaches techniques to circulate the energy through the "microcosmic orbit" (like the Big Draw).
I'd like to ask if someone else knows mantak chia's work, and I wanted to know if this practice is corrupted, or harmful in any way. I would also need a few clarifications from someone who is following teachings and exercises from this book, and a general opinion on semen retention, orgasm energy circulation, multiple orgasms, and the microcosmic orbit.
Thanks
HAIL SATAN

UHRM why do you want to have an multi orgasmn?
Do you want to improve your sex life?

 

[hailourtruegod]

Btw the title of the topic is quite hilarious.

To me it sounds like a super hero like name.


"Have No Fear, The Multi Orgasmic Man Is Here"

Maybe he can have an ahegao face on his chest too.

If anyone doesn't know what that is just imagine this :roll: combined with

 

[hailourtruegod]

Isn't seen retention just not ejaculating or in other words not having an orgasm because that's what those weird noFap guys do?


The only times I've managed to purposely not ejaculate while orgasm is if I visualize the orgasm energy going up my spine. It comes our later anyways when you go to the bathroom so it's not like you're keeping it in permanently. I believe this is found somewhere on the JoS site right?

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

Btw the title of the topic is quite hilarious.

Flys in with flowing cape. What did I miss? Oh Great Skeet!! There are blockages A Foot! This looks like a job for THE MULTI ORGASMIC MAN!

Whips out Package, Now I will Blast these dirty Blockages to kingdom cum! Fires off like a sawed off shot gun.

Die you dirty Jewish garbage. Why am I picturing John Wayne for this? Well, theres notta nuf room for the both of us partner. Not when I get ta firein.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

Soon in Comics: "The Multi Orgasmic Man: Galactic Domination".

Still better than Stan Lee.

 

[Luna Black]

To me it sounds like a super hero like name.

"Have No Fear, The Multi Orgasmic Man Is Here"

He is no mere man.
His are no mere orgasms.
:lol:

 

[Aldrick Strickland]

Soon in Comics: "The Multi Orgasmic Man: Galactic Domination".

Still better than Stan Lee.

Galasmic Domination.

 

[Aquarius]

Semen retention is unhealthy

No one is talking about semen retention. Its about having multiple orgasms to charge the working again and again and ejaculating ultimately when you have a full body orgasm. A must for anyone who practices sex magick.

read his post better

 

[satanicthrillz]

Btw the title of the topic is quite hilarious.

Flys in with flowing cape. What did I miss? Oh Great Skeet!! There are blockages A Foot! This looks like a job for THE MULTI ORGASMIC MAN!

Whips out Package, Now I will Blast these dirty Blockages to kingdom cum! Fires off like a sawed off shot gun.

Die you dirty Jewish garbage. Why am I picturing John Wayne for this? Well, theres notta nuf room for the both of us partner. Not when I get ta firein.

hahahahaha

 

[Taurus666]

Semen retention is unhealthy

No one is talking about semen retention. Its about having multiple orgasms to charge the working again and again and ejaculating ultimately when you have a full body orgasm. A must for anyone who practices sex magick.

read his post better

actually what he is saying is what i meant. the book teaches how to have orgasms (even multiple ones) without ejaculating, as semen carries life force with it. So it's not something like NoFap crap, orgasm are ok if you don't ejaculate for the reasons stated above. For example, a man in his 20s can ejaculate without depleting life force once every 4 days.
I found this book here in the forum, it's a libgen link so free. I suggest rading it as Jack did in that post. http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=172B4D75A2E1DFB3CDA51693C8D338CA
I also wanted to know whether the circulating energy with big draw/cool draw (techniques described in the book) are crap or not. I mean, on the web i stumbled upon someone saying that it's not ok to circulate sexual energy like that because it could "cool" in the spine and permanently plug chakras. Is there such a thing? I mean is it possible for energy to crystallize and block everything?
Hail Satan

 

[Aquarius]

No one is talking about semen retention. Its about having multiple orgasms to charge the working again and again and ejaculating ultimately when you have a full body orgasm. A must for anyone who practices sex magick.

read his post better

actually what he is saying is what i meant. the book teaches how to have orgasms (even multiple ones) without ejaculating, as semen carries life force with it. So it's not something like NoFap crap, orgasm are ok if you don't ejaculate for the reasons stated above. For example, a man in his 20s can ejaculate without depleting life force once every 4 days.
I found this book here in the forum, it's a libgen link so free. I suggest rading it as Jack did in that post. http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=172B4D75A2E1DFB3CDA51693C8D338CA
I also wanted to know whether the circulating energy with big draw/cool draw (techniques described in the book) are crap or not. I mean, on the web i stumbled upon someone saying that it's not ok to circulate sexual energy like that because it could "cool" in the spine and permanently plug chakras. Is there such a thing? I mean is it possible for energy to crystallize and block everything?
Hail Satan

even if you’re orgsming it doesent mean semen retention is still ok, no, you’re not losing your life force if you ejaculate, as long as you use the energy of the orgasm you’re not loosing or wasting anything, all these claims are bullshit. I’ve read some of the books of mantak chia already.

 

[Jack]

No one is talking about semen retention. Its about having multiple orgasms to charge the working again and again and ejaculating ultimately when you have a full body orgasm. A must for anyone who practices sex magick.

read his post better

actually what he is saying is what i meant. the book teaches how to have orgasms (even multiple ones) without ejaculating, as semen carries life force with it. So it's not something like NoFap crap, orgasm are ok if you don't ejaculate for the reasons stated above. For example, a man in his 20s can ejaculate without depleting life force once every 4 days.
I found this book here in the forum, it's a libgen link so free. I suggest rading it as Jack did in that post. http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=172B4D75A2E1DFB3CDA51693C8D338CA
I also wanted to know whether the circulating energy with big draw/cool draw (techniques described in the book) are crap or not. I mean, on the web i stumbled upon someone saying that it's not ok to circulate sexual energy like that because it could "cool" in the spine and permanently plug chakras. Is there such a thing? I mean is it possible for energy to crystallize and block everything?
Hail Satan

I don't think members here on the forums are very interested in this stuff or if they actually tried it. The only way to know if a technique is waste/bullshit or fucking real is to try it yourself. HPhoodedcobra(it was probably in a sermon or in a reply I don't remember though I'm not going to search hundreds of sermons just for that) did mention fapping too much or in excess is unhealthy and does waste away the life force which can be used in other constructive efforts I.e meditation and occult purposes. The point is not about depletion of life force. Its about creation and utilization. Listen, the creative energy which is also responsible for semen creation similar to how different chakras correspond to different body organ systems and such. If you ejaculate normally you won't be able to generate it again for some time. This technique of multiple orgasms is the trick to tantra. Using multiple orgasms you charge the meditation or whatever you're doing multiple times as to your capacity. The point of this meditation is to complete the meditation and use the creative force here again and again without having to wait a longer time. Its about utilization. If you ejaculate in 2 days or daily doesn't matter. Its about the utilization of the creative force. As a hack.
Also if you have a woman I'm sure you've heard about their multiple orgasms. They don't Even need such techniques like we do . A handy gift from nature for their compensation in the roles of being mothers. Imagine giving your girl so many orgasms and experiencing pleasure that she moans hours. That's a very handy technique for that too.

 

[Taurus666]

Thanks to both, Aquarius and Jack!

 

[TheFlea]

read his post better

even if you’re orgsming it doesent mean semen retention is still ok, no, you’re not losing your life force if you ejaculate, as long as you use the energy of the orgasm you’re not loosing or wasting anything, all these claims are bullshit. I’ve read some of the books of mantak chia already.

You know... for such a smart guy who is normally so nice and helpful on such an open-minded-skeptic type forum... You sure are coming off like a dull, rude, unhelpful, closed-minded and self-limiting cranky bastard lately lol
... no offense. Maybe our friend is rubbing off on you?

In all seriousness, though.You've read the book ... but have you had any actual experience to base your assumptions on, or even practiced any of what was written for yourself? Or are you just regurgitating what some others may have said at one time? Perhaps you have tried a small amount, but have not had success just yet, so are taking your frusterations out here?

Another said something once that got me curious. Cobra mentioned using orgasm for power... HP Don spoke about using the cosmic orbit that Mantak Chia talked about and about how it's not "celibacy" to go a few days without ejaculating... HPS Maxine spoke of having a male orgasm that is "deeper, fuller, complete" ... These all got me curious about orgasm so I searched and found his book and tried it for myself...

It took some work. And his writing isn't the clearest, but after a long while I can now have multiple orgasms, some feel lighter and some feel super intense and, not to get too colorful here, have the same pulsating, body ... throbbing feelings as an ejaculation. So much so that I have to check and see for myself that it wasn't a normal one. A few have even been full body and different yet from others. Afterwards... BAM, I'm right back to getting another orgasm. It started out I had to clench hard and even use the "million dollar point" to hold back during orgasms ... The orgasms weren't very strong at first, but after some practice (I still ejaculated every day, sometimes every two days just because I wanted to) and now I can easily choose if I want to ejaculate (still a strong, healthy action ... No harm or change in ejaculation strength), or if I want to have multiples without orgasming with just a slight pull of my pelvic floor muscles...

And some I've spoken with even say they are to the point they can do this selection simply by breathing ... They can even induce an orgasm with a breath. Im still practicing but I can see how I am gradually getting there myself. I am working with adding this energy to my micro cosmic orbit that we teach about here and that Mage has posted about in his sermons about sex. I still ejaculate every day or two, and the ejaculation and it's orgasm is even more intense after orgasming without ejaculating a few times first. So I'm not unhealthily retaining anything that I can see. I agree semen has life force and power but is not your only life force, and you will not really be negatively affected with normal ejaculations... Maybe mentally you could be affected with chronic porn masturbation, with dopamine and other chemicals being depleted in your brain, but this I do not have a lot of experience or study in so I can not say for sure.

Each orgasm seems to build upon the last which is nice. And I can even reach a point of being in an orgasmic state, flooded with great feelings all over for as long as I want. I have not been able yet to send the orgasm completely up my spine, as I have done this but i have not yet experienced the "head filled with sparks and light" yet, but i believe I will soon and that this is possible, I can see how based upon my experience

I highly suggest you and the OP to try these techniques for yourselves with an open minded skepticism.... Dont take my word for it, try for yourself.

Brother, if you are the kind of person that bases your beliefs only upon what others say and what they say is real or not... HP Lucius himself of the Asian forum also advocates the teachings of Mantak Chia here: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1533&p=14542&hilit=Mantak+chia#p14542

 

[MoonlessNight666]

I came across this book written by Mantak Chia. Basically he explains how ejaculation needs to be separated from orgasm since with semen energy is also wasted, and it teaches techniques to circulate the energy through the "microcosmic orbit" (like the Big Draw).
I'd like to ask if someone else knows mantak chia's work, and I wanted to know if this practice is corrupted, or harmful in any way. I would also need a few clarifications from someone who is following teachings and exercises from this book, and a general opinion on semen retention, orgasm energy circulation, multiple orgasms, and the microcosmic orbit.
Thanks
HAIL SATAN

UHRM why do you want to have an multi orgasmn?
Do you want to improve your sex life?

Why is this even a question lol? Who wouldnt want to have multiple orgasms

 

[Aquarius]

read his post better

even if you’re orgsming it doesent mean semen retention is still ok, no, you’re not losing your life force if you ejaculate, as long as you use the energy of the orgasm you’re not loosing or wasting anything, all these claims are bullshit. I’ve read some of the books of mantak chia already.

You know... for such a smart guy who is normally so nice and helpful on such an open-minded-skeptic type forum... You sure are coming off like a dull, rude, unhelpful, closed-minded and self-limiting cranky bastard lately lol
... no offense. Maybe our friend is rubbing off on you?

In all seriousness, though.You've read the book ... but have you had any actual experience to base your assumptions on, or even practiced any of what was written for yourself? Or are you just regurgitating what some others may have said at one time? Perhaps you have tried a small amount, but have not had success just yet, so are taking your frusterations out here?

Another said something once that got me curious. Cobra mentioned using orgasm for power... HP Don spoke about using the cosmic orbit that Mantak Chia talked about and about how it's not "celibacy" to go a few days without ejaculating... HPS Maxine spoke of having a male orgasm that is "deeper, fuller, complete" ... These all got me curious about orgasm so I searched and found his book and tried it for myself...

It took some work. And his writing isn't the clearest, but after a long while I can now have multiple orgasms, some feel lighter and some feel super intense and, not to get too colorful here, have the same pulsating, body ... throbbing feelings as an ejaculation. So much so that I have to check and see for myself that it wasn't a normal one. A few have even been full body and different yet from others. Afterwards... BAM, I'm right back to getting another orgasm. It started out I had to clench hard and even use the "million dollar point" to hold back during orgasms ... The orgasms weren't very strong at first, but after some practice (I still ejaculated every day, sometimes every two days just because I wanted to) and now I can easily choose if I want to ejaculate (still a strong, healthy action ... No harm or change in ejaculation strength), or if I want to have multiples without orgasming with just a slight pull of my pelvic floor muscles...

And some I've spoken with even say they are to the point they can do this selection simply by breathing ... They can even induce an orgasm with a breath. Im still practicing but I can see how I am gradually getting there myself. I am working with adding this energy to my micro cosmic orbit that we teach about here and that Mage has posted about in his sermons about sex. I still ejaculate every day or two, and the ejaculation and it's orgasm is even more intense after orgasming without ejaculating a few times first. So I'm not unhealthily retaining anything that I can see. I agree semen has life force and power but is not your only life force, and you will not really be negatively affected with normal ejaculations... Maybe mentally you could be affected with chronic porn masturbation, with dopamine and other chemicals being depleted in your brain, but this I do not have a lot of experience or study in so I can not say for sure.

Each orgasm seems to build upon the last which is nice. And I can even reach a point of being in an orgasmic state, flooded with great feelings all over for as long as I want. I have not been able yet to send the orgasm completely up my spine, as I have done this but i have not yet experienced the "head filled with sparks and light" yet, but i believe I will soon and that this is possible, I can see how based upon my experience

I highly suggest you and the OP to try these techniques for yourselves with an open minded skepticism.... Dont take my word for it, try for yourself.

Brother, if you are the kind of person that bases your beliefs only upon what others say and what they say is real or not... HP Lucius himself of the Asian forum also advocates the teachings of Mantak Chia here: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1533&p=14542&hilit=Mantak+chia#p14542

Hey man what I am trying to say is that not ejaculating isnt the best, yes, you can keep it for days but after a while you should just do it, I remember i read this from older discussions about this topic by a HP, and i am not trying to disprove the multiple orgasms or anything, if anything they’re great.

 

[Osiris Silvio]

read his post better

actually what he is saying is what i meant. the book teaches how to have orgasms (even multiple ones) without ejaculating, as semen carries life force with it. So it's not something like NoFap crap, orgasm are ok if you don't ejaculate for the reasons stated above. For example, a man in his 20s can ejaculate without depleting life force once every 4 days.
I found this book here in the forum, it's a libgen link so free. I suggest rading it as Jack did in that post. http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=172B4D75A2E1DFB3CDA51693C8D338CA
I also wanted to know whether the circulating energy with big draw/cool draw (techniques described in the book) are crap or not. I mean, on the web i stumbled upon someone saying that it's not ok to circulate sexual energy like that because it could "cool" in the spine and permanently plug chakras. Is there such a thing? I mean is it possible for energy to crystallize and block everything?
Hail Satan

even if you’re orgsming it doesent mean semen retention is still ok, no, you’re not losing your life force if you ejaculate, as long as you use the energy of the orgasm you’re not loosing or wasting anything, all these claims are bullshit. I’ve read some of the books of mantak chia already.

It is not good to ejaculate too frequently. The book teaches how to have multi orgasm, which is based on Tantra, without ejaculating unless you want so. It is safe to orgasm without ejaculating as often as one wants. Ejaculating depends on the power and strength of every man. Some men can healthily ejaculate every day, but most should do that only twice or once a week. The book also says to listen to your body, if you need to ejaculate, then go for it.

 

[Aquarius]

actually what he is saying is what i meant. the book teaches how to have orgasms (even multiple ones) without ejaculating, as semen carries life force with it. So it's not something like NoFap crap, orgasm are ok if you don't ejaculate for the reasons stated above. For example, a man in his 20s can ejaculate without depleting life force once every 4 days.
I found this book here in the forum, it's a libgen link so free. I suggest rading it as Jack did in that post. http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=172B4D75A2E1DFB3CDA51693C8D338CA
I also wanted to know whether the circulating energy with big draw/cool draw (techniques described in the book) are crap or not. I mean, on the web i stumbled upon someone saying that it's not ok to circulate sexual energy like that because it could "cool" in the spine and permanently plug chakras. Is there such a thing? I mean is it possible for energy to crystallize and block everything?
Hail Satan

even if you’re orgsming it doesent mean semen retention is still ok, no, you’re not losing your life force if you ejaculate, as long as you use the energy of the orgasm you’re not loosing or wasting anything, all these claims are bullshit. I’ve read some of the books of mantak chia already.

It is not good to ejaculate too frequently. The book teaches how to have multi orgasm, which is based on Tantra, without ejaculating unless you want so. It is safe to orgasm without ejaculating as often as one wants. Ejaculating depends on the power and strength of every man. Some men can healthily ejaculate every day, but most should do that only twice or once a week. The book also says to listen to your body, if you need to ejaculate, then go for it.

Retention will just make me pee it away, and it's pretty uncomfortable.

 

[CaspianTheDreamer]

How would it even be physically possible for a man to not cum when he has an orgasm? Its not up to me or you. Its how nature works and how it naturally is.

I honestly dont look too forward to this because I feel like by doing this you will cause some issue on your penis. Who knows, maybe if you keep doing enough of hat you'll reach a point where you cant even cum when orgasming.

Not too optimistic on this one...

Haven't read the book though so I may be missing some info.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

How would it even be physically possible for a man to not cum when he has an orgasm? Its not up to me or you. Its how nature works and how it naturally is.

I honestly dont look too forward to this because I feel like by doing this you will cause some issue on your penis. Who knows, maybe if you keep doing enough of hat you'll reach a point where you cant even cum when orgasming.

Not too optimistic on this one...

Haven't read the book though so I may be missing some info.

It is possible and quite the step towards other things. With Kundalini Yoga , and specific locks and breaths, you can lock in an orgasm for 10 minutes or more without ejaculation.

The orgasm becomes a disk of energy on which you float and meditate.

There's a whole science of how to do it, why and different aspects of sexual energy work.

One way or another one will encounter this with the Serpent or related lower chakras and energies.

The 3rd step of MO is part of this as well, only there you rise it to the Sacral to enter the circuit of transformation.

Your orgasm is not only a one moment stimulation. One can inhabit the feeling of orgasm to prolonged times, even an underlying force and presence in the body for hours.

But this needs the sexual energy manipulated in a specific ways, and also your instincts and control over the body established.

The simple way to do this is with the abdominal lock and when the orgasm expands in the disk to use the root lock.

One can also do Breath of Fire and initiate the orgasm in the retention of the breath and it will create a body of orgasmic energy.

 

[Someone.something_]

I've said this before but from what I've read Mantak Chia isnt a good guru. his students end up being harmed and he oversimplifies meditations in his books. if you want to learn qigong there are better(albeit more expensive)teachers out there, with powers they can actually prove.