The Debate on Abortion

[Jade9779]

I read Lilith's page and it said she stood for abortion rights. Yet, in the Hippocratic Oath it reads,

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.

What are your stands on the issue? Understandably, we certainly don't want women having abortions left and right, especially white women. But is this a right women should have? Additionally, pro-life is a common belief among Catholics and Xians.

 

[Gearshift]

Basically to simplify on JoS stance. Despite any objections we are Pro-Choice end of discussion. Anything having to do with Pro-Life = a living hell for some.

HP.Cobra mentioned this in the sermon thread he replied to. Inasmuch by up to around 4 months abortions are standard. Past that into the 5th month and your dealing with the soul of the Human. It's reached a point the entity in question has reached a Human-Spiritual area.

As for left and right abortions especially those of White women. Except inasmuch as people caring for their race and while we wish times were different. Such a situation of keeping the baby for barebacking a one-night stand or an accident during a relationship where there is breaking of a condom or something. Is tantamount to killing a person.

It's one thing to have reproductive organs to some even birth is seen as a miracle or positive life-changing experience. But there are others who are not in any way, shape, or form ready for it. IF anything their lives revolve around Yoloswag420 activities. It gets to the point do we really want XYZ reproducing and creating another XYZ NPC. Do we really need more NPCs?

Maybe if the World cared and or societies and or people cared. There'd be less of an issue but unfortunately for the health and safety of Humanity abortions are needed. IF anything again as iterated pro-life can be a living hell.

There's a pornographic amateur actress that got impregnated in a scene she never aborted, never said anything. Her parents found out they are religious and conservative people demanded she gestated it and raise it. IT MUST COME to existence.

That's the perfect point of preventative measurements either proactive, plan B ,or outright abortion. Sheer fact is do we really want children and considering people pure babies raising babies. Like Morty from Rick and Morty Adults are just kids trying to raise kids.

Does that sound positive?

Some will state a child is the best thing to happen. Or some girl says I was so fucking crazy insane ruining my life that a child turned me around. Exceptions of the rule but not everyone is like this. IF anything it might spurn them to produce more NPCs. Especially the christarded among us YAY more slaves for jebus and israel and cucking.

In reality abortion should not be up to debate. It's a necessity in life, JoS views sex as a important property both self or with another person. Some follow it, some don't, some are content with themselves. Some are more pessimistic, optimistic, or even down the middle or love-intoxicated. Sheer fact is if this is what the JoS views i.e. responsible to the responsible and your sex life is your personal aspect as long as it's legal/lawful.

Then you can see abortion is not up to debate. In fact judging from the debates with people who are conservative-religious-traditional. It boils down to marxist indoctrination. They debate simple or truthful statements just to debate and create cognitive despondence. For example the gun debate, 2A or even xtians debating just simple truths like for example people have sex why punish them for a little fluid exchange. And then for these people it boils down to that is evil, devil stuff. There is no point in debating marxists if even they like George Lincoln Rockwell acknowledge evolution and animal breeds but talk about Human race, races, and sub-races and they freak out and attack that.

At the end of the day the xtian "everything must exist and come to fruition due to God's plan" is tantamount to lunatic retardation. Like Hank Hill from King of the Hill said "How did the Chinese get suckered into making this crap".

Indeed, Hank is conservative-religious not overbearing but subtle. But again Hank's religion is the issue here not everything needs to be brought to existence. Look at genetic and retards do we really need the gene pool mucked up?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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[Jade9779]

Basically to simplify on JoS stance. Despite any objections we are Pro-Choice end of discussion. Anything having to do with Pro-Life = a living hell for some.

Interesting, thanks for the insight. I was wondering about this topic because I was reading an article on "assisted suicide", when the terminally ill would rather be given a lethal dose than waiting around to die. The Hippocratic Oath was quoted and when I looked it up, that line about not giving a woman a pessary came up.

Granted, this could have been put there. It's not as though altered doctrines is anything new, unfortunately.

 

[Gearshift]

Basically to simplify on JoS stance. Despite any objections we are Pro-Choice end of discussion. Anything having to do with Pro-Life = a living hell for some.

Interesting, thanks for the insight. I was wondering about this topic because I was reading an article on "assisted suicide", when the terminally ill would rather be given a lethal dose than waiting around to die. The Hippocratic Oath was quoted and when I looked it up, that line about not giving a woman a pessary came up.

Granted, this could have been put there. It's not as though altered doctrines is anything new, unfortunately.

I think simply from an NS(Government) position. We do the right thing to the folks(volk). In essence why ruin people's lives and make them live a hell that already exists for some. Some people create their own hell why be the Jupiter(in a negative way) for them. Like HP.Cobra said even Jupiter can be poison.

Why aggrandize the destructive/negative. I think it's simply "I care for my people". Knowing that you'd care too. Sure some people are gonna do stupid shit. But that isn't the entire ream of people in the spectrum of reality.

Although we'd like to help the sick and dying(sufferers) like say a Rife Machine or a cheap medicine that cures. Not treatment, no CURE. We don't live in those times and I think the position might be in our current times and status of Humanity death is probably a better alternative than continue being in pain and suffering. We'd like to help like I said CURE the issue but as you can see that isn't exactly our call.

I don't know about the Hippocratic Oath can't help you there. It's a miracle it survived colloquially among Humanity. But I would not be surprised if it was a whole 'nother story back in those eras. Humanity changes so should some things of the historical realms change along with it.

In the end caring enough to solve the situation is a nice thing for some and if the outcome is the ending of a life due to the times. Good luck with that we hope your suffering and pain is cured even if the outcome is despondent. Sometimes moving to another lifetime is a better alternative. Look at retards or certain interned for life people, are they ever gonna meditate or do something with their lives. We need to think of the bigger picture. Those people are just suffering that isn't life that's just torture of the soul.

As you can see there is a reason why at this point of discussion many traditional-conservative-religious people will go apeshit. And yet your attacking US for telling you the solution no matter how despondent it can be. That's life, why deny the obvious.

 

[FancyMancy]

I was against abortion... but then "What if the Woman was raped and became pregnant?", so then abortion in such a case would be very reluctantly acceptable. Since then, learning and realising that Souls reincarnate, so an aborted phoetus is not the end for him/her, I decided that aborting an unborn Child is not as terrible. He or she will reincarnate later. (I don't think the Astrology does, and I hope the karma does not, cause the unborn Child to be aborted repeatedly until they Soul-die.) After a Woman aborts, then that Soul is incarnated into another Woman's Child... how strange might it be that "That Soul could have been my Child!"?! That is quite strange a thought, lol.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Basically to simplify on JoS stance. Despite any objections we are Pro-Choice end of discussion. Anything having to do with Pro-Life = a living hell for some.

"We" are not pro choice. "We" are not anything. Because all of us have different opinions about it. If you mean pro choice as in infinite amount of abortions for everybody in every possible situation, any possible time, and for no reason, I think most people consider pro choice in this way. Many of us here, maybe even most of us, disagree with this and don't want it to happen.

Many of us here, probably most of us, want abortion to only happen in extremely rare and limited reasons and before a certain early time. Reasons like rape or medical reasons. Most of us are not "Yolo do whatever you want" like most people are who describe themself as pro choice.

 

[hailourtruegod]

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Many of us here, probably most of us, want abortion to only happen in extremely rare and limited reasons and before a certain early time. Reasons like rape or medical reasons. Most of us are not "Yolo do whatever you want" like most people are who describe themself as pro choice.

Pretty much yeah.