The death rune?

[Serbon]

Is that upside-down Algiz negative? They call it "death rune", but we know that every rune that can be used negatively can also be used for positive things. So is this upside-down Algiz also a positive symbol?

 

[Shadowcat]

Is that upside-down Algiz negative? They call it "death rune", but we know that every rune that can be used negatively can also be used for positive things. So is this upside-down Algiz also a positive symbol?

AS far as i know we do not use the runes upside down. The closest rune i can think of that could be called a "death rune" would be hagalaz due to its almost exclusive black magikal nature gearing towards destruction and ruin. Especially combined with thur it can cause accidents, violent deaths, or other horrible fates that can manifest for someone in the physical.

 

[Demonic]

AS far as i know we do not use the runes upside down. The closest rune i can think of that could be called a "death rune" would be hagalaz due to its almost exclusive black magikal nature gearing towards destruction and ruin. Especially combined with thur it can cause accidents, violent deaths, or other horrible fates that can manifest for someone in the physical.

What rune can be used to get rid of feelings/attatchement/attraction in a positive way for other people except one person?
Would runes of loyalty work? If programmed like “In a positive and healthy way for me now i m attracted to only him/her,other than him/her i do not find anyone else attractive at all in any way.”

 

[CaspianTheDreamer]

Is that upside-down Algiz negative? They call it "death rune", but we know that every rune that can be used negatively can also be used for positive things. So is this upside-down Algiz also a positive symbol?

Jews and leftists reverse Algiz and bind it inside a ring and call it the peace symbol☮ in reality this is used to bring down subconscious defenses in people and manipulate them easier i believe. You can see this symbol in excess in pride flags, BLM stuff etc.

 

[Nimrod33]

Is that upside-down Algiz negative? They call it "death rune", but we know that every rune that can be used negatively can also be used for positive things. So is this upside-down Algiz also a positive symbol?

The rune you're referring it is the "Yr" rune, who looks like an upside down Algiz. There exist a modified version that is used for Pacifism.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=310108#p310108

 

[DarkPagan666]

Is that upside-down Algiz negative? They call it "death rune", but we know that every rune that can be used negatively can also be used for positive things. So is this upside-down Algiz also a positive symbol?

Runes upside down was usually a practice that sufficed in divination. The Vikings didn't have Tarot, but used the runes carved in small stones instead (just a belief I have...nothing is confirmed). Algiz upside down represented a warning of ill health, decline, negative and potentially detrimental people coming to you. I have not heard of it being a death rune.

The "death rune" as I know it, would be the 13th rune Eihwaz. It is a rune used in necromancy i.e. communicating with the dead. It holds the power over the dead, which would be a case of a rune of death. It also possess other qualities and properties that is very important. Here is an excerpt of the Eihwaz rune taken from JoS:

#13. Used in necromancy (communicating with the dead). It is a rune of death and power over the dead. Eihwaz strengthens the will and can be used in past life regressions to gain knowledge and wisdom from prior lives. Represents the kundalini force. This rune shields the soul through all kinds of hardship. Like the planet Pluto, it is a rune of transformation through death and rebirth and rules over deep and powerful transformation on all levels. Smoky quartz is used with this rune. Both can be used to activate and raise the kundalini.

https://joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Odin.html

Death is not always referred to the literal meaning of death. Deceased people are still very much alive, but in the form of a soul in the Astral plane. The physical body may be gone, but not their soul. Death can be an allegory for a new birth. Such as when you go through the very transformative Death Stage in Magnum Opus - a rebirth takes place, and you have become immortal, a god.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

 

[Elite]

AS far as i know we do not use the runes upside down. The closest rune i can think of that could be called a "death rune" would be hagalaz due to its almost exclusive black magikal nature gearing towards destruction and ruin. Especially combined with thur it can cause accidents, violent deaths, or other horrible fates that can manifest for someone in the physical.

HPHC stated that runes can be reverse vibrated for opposite effects. So in this sense, yes, Algiz can be reverse vibrated as well. For runes being just proxy power words for original ones, they can not get destroyed. For example, maybe vibrating Algiz as TSSS-EEEE-GGGGG-LLLLL-AAAA can perish target's aura.

Others can make their own comments on it, but for me, it can be functional for specific things.

An excerpt from his post:

Reverse motion of the Runes can be used in Black magick and one has to go by feeling on which of the actual words available in the JoS Rune page can be used to that end. Some are better than others.

His full message: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=232962#p232962

 

[Gearshift]

Is that upside-down Algiz negative? They call it "death rune", but we know that every rune that can be used negatively can also be used for positive things. So is this upside-down Algiz also a positive symbol?

AS far as i know we do not use the runes upside down. The closest rune i can think of that could be called a "death rune" would be hagalaz due to its almost exclusive black magikal nature gearing towards destruction and ruin. Especially combined with thur it can cause accidents, violent deaths, or other horrible fates that can manifest for someone in the physical.

We have told people about putting Runes upside down to reverse them or sideways. Ex: Isa = ( I ) or ( I ) but it can't be changed unless you put it sideways: ( -- ).

Runes that don't fit the upside down pattern fit in with sideways.

Anyways my best guess as to why we don't teach it is, it's better just to stick to the Runes themselves as they are. Not that we don't encourage it's use alternatively but it's a complicated science technology. And much like antidote mantra technology we might not have the full picture on how to use the technology without other instances of information and additional technology.

For example Hagl becomes a positive rune when the symbol is turned in a positive direction. Strange but think for a moment opposite of hailstones, water.

Anyways yes upside down or sideways to the OP = simply the opposite effect. Algiz/Zigla i.e. hippy symbol so-called Symbol of Nero. I can assure you if Nero was around he'd probably as a DEEP Pagan and a re-Paganizer of Roman Empire. Would have probably slapped people upside the head for believing he likens such a horrific Rune to his prestige.

It's like our medical symbol. We use Hagalatz, fabulous we are cursing our medical industry with Asterisk symbol. It should be like in Germany in the 30s and 40s using Algiz for pharmacies and other places.

I'm not sure how powerful symbols are. It's one thing to state a symbol vibrated is power and vibrating it into a template i.e. a symbol drawn or written or expressed outwardly. Is a form of adding power. But I don't know if there is a conscious/subconscious effect on symbological properties of the use of Hagl on medical ambulances for example.

It seems in earnest if our medical industry was to be destroyed by mere symbols it would have occurred a long time ago and we would be more fucked over. But it seems like there is a form of gradual subjugation rather than outright collateral damage.
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Do Runic symbols painted/drawn/or transmitted memetically in culture. Do they have power? Do they affect us?

I assume because people associate this stuff with medicine they somehow subconsciously believe it's positive i.e. negative = positive, opposite = negative.

But does this actually affect people or vehicles and structures?

Does by having Hagl as our medical symbol does that incur some sort of astral effect in people/society/infrastructure?

I assume in the Empire of Orion any medicine would be Serpent with Algiz or Serpent showing glorious exhibition, correct?

 

[ogika666]

I've seen it attributed with Death/endings and when its the other way (Algiz) its life/beginnings

 

[DarkPagan666]

AS far as i know we do not use the runes upside down. The closest rune i can think of that could be called a "death rune" would be hagalaz due to its almost exclusive black magikal nature gearing towards destruction and ruin. Especially combined with thur it can cause accidents, violent deaths, or other horrible fates that can manifest for someone in the physical.

HPHC stated that runes can be reverse vibrated for opposite effects. So in this sense, yes, Algiz can be reverse vibrated as well. For runes being just proxy power words for original ones, they can not get destroyed. For example, maybe vibrating Algiz as TSSS-EEEE-GGGGG-LLLLL-AAAA can perish target's aura.

Others can make their own comments on it, but for me, it can be functional for specific things.

An excerpt from his post:

Reverse motion of the Runes can be used in Black magick and one has to go by feeling on which of the actual words available in the JoS Rune page can be used to that end. Some are better than others.

His full message: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=232962#p232962

Thank you for providing this!

 

[Shadowcat]

AS far as i know we do not use the runes upside down. The closest rune i can think of that could be called a "death rune" would be hagalaz due to its almost exclusive black magikal nature gearing towards destruction and ruin. Especially combined with thur it can cause accidents, violent deaths, or other horrible fates that can manifest for someone in the physical.

HPHC stated that runes can be reverse vibrated for opposite effects. So in this sense, yes, Algiz can be reverse vibrated as well. For runes being just proxy power words for original ones, they can not get destroyed. For example, maybe vibrating Algiz as TSSS-EEEE-GGGGG-LLLLL-AAAA can perish target's aura.

Others can make their own comments on it, but for me, it can be functional for specific things.

An excerpt from his post:

Reverse motion of the Runes can be used in Black magick and one has to go by feeling on which of the actual words available in the JoS Rune page can be used to that end. Some are better than others.

His full message: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=232962#p232962

Interesting! my mistake i will have to look into this myself

 

[darkmonkey666]

The runes can be reversed and changed even like put other directions then runes can be combined like bind runes and you also can combine these into mantras to create various energies. I learned some about this a few years ago. As to whether to mess with it or not. I really didn't much as I don't have much interest in this aspect of the runes right now however if you want to go ahead just be careful with things like this to cleanse yourself and don't vibrate anything into yourself if you can't sense energy and/or you don't know what it means fully as some of the energies of things actually can be quite dangerous if you do the wrong stuff with this.