On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 1:45 AM PDT High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to add that one's Saturn in another's first house is the
same as the hard aspects, especially when close to the ascendant. Also, I
wasn't trying to be negative regarding the nine degrees, only truthful. This
is especially pronounced if one's chart ruler/s is at one of those degrees,
but meditation and knowing beforehand can help to offset this somewhat.
Remember, no chart is perfect; no life is perfect. We all get our asses
kicked in life.
The Saturn person is not always a murderer, obviously, but there always is
something in the Saturn person in the way they can undermine and do the
chart ruler person in. The Saturn person has negative power over the chart
ruler person in some way. This can be just animosity or total destruction of
the chart ruler person.
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.com
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Darkfury211 posted:
Funny i know someone who abused me heavily as a child and there saturn is
nigh
directly on my ascendant.
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On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 6:24 PM PDT High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:
Look to your house/s in your chart that have Capricorn on the cusp; also
look to the house placement of Saturn, and to a lesser extent, the house/s
with Aquarius on the cusp. The affairs ruled by these placements should
give
you an idea of where any problems will manifest.
In addition, the nature of Saturn, as well. Do any other planets tie in, as
with tight aspects? Does your Saturn align with your lunar nodes? All of
this is important. Planets at 9 degrees, I have noted are very bad, but of
Virgo and Pisces, these are worse. Be aware... no astrology chart is
perfect. No one gets through this life unscathed. Knowing where potential
problems can come from can be a great help in working to prevent them.
I have a bit of time today, so I can go into an example. I read a book some
time ago about a woman [she had Jupiter at 9 degrees of Virgo, in exact
opposition to Uranus at 9 of Pisces. When aspects like this are tight
[within 1-2 degrees of orb], or even more intense- on exactly the same
degree, these are fated events in the life. If three or more planets link
up, this is even more so. This woman's father was a jewish communist. He
worked for the Ford Motor Company here in the USA, but was involved in
communist activities. This was back in the late 1920's and early 1930's.
After the 1929 depression hit here, many at Ford feared job loss and
related. Back then, Stalin; the USSR had more deceitful come-a-longs-
brotherhood programs, promising a "worker's paradise" and good living, etc.
Ford Motor Company had opened a plant at Gorky in the USSR. Through this,
American workers were invited to get this plant established; spending 1-2
years in Gorky. This situation was not only limited to Ford Motor Company,
but was a swindle to get Americans to the USSR in many other areas;
exploiting the depression and hard economic times here. Other families,
totally unrelated to this particular experience were duped into this as
well. This woman in the following example was known to be the "only female
American survivor of the Siberian gulag."
Sorry for the repeat, but this will go much faster; I just found, copied,
and pasted this from what I wrote in an e-mail some time ago regarding this
case:
I noted a case where a woman had a Uranus/Jupiter opposition at 9 degrees
of
Virgo and Pisces- degrees of extreme suffering. Jupiter has to do with
travel and though her birth time was not given, I am led to believe she had
Aquarius on her ascendant by the events that took place in her life
according to the biography. Jupiter opposed her ruling Uranus and got her
through unimaginable hell and by 'hell' I mean that as a figure of speech.
Jupiter is a protector in a sense, but can still bring extreme misfortune
when placed on a bad degree.
In 1932, when this woman was eleven years old [she was born in 1921], her
father worked for the Ford automobile plant in Detroit. Times were hard
with
the depression and he was duped along with many others into leaving the USA
and moving to Gorky in the USSR, under Stalin. Same old jewish brotherhood
programs, like xianity, promising a better life and a 'worker's paradise.'
Now, Jupiter rules foreign countries and travel. Hers was at 9 of Virgo, a
degree of extreme suffering. They were to stay in Gorky and work on a new
Ford plant over there under the direction of Ford for about a year, then
return back to the USA. Needless to say, at her early age, when they
arrived
in Moscow, she noted how there was something wrong, the people were dressed
in rags and were notably hungry and freezing in the bitter cold. The
streets
were very dreary, no heat in the street cars or any other transportation
and
everyone looked exceptionally depressed. They were moved to a one room
flat.
They had to share a kitchen and bathroom down the hall and both were in
horrendous filth, especially the bathroom. To take a bath or a shower, one
had to walk some 3-4 blocks down the street to the public bathhouse. Every
other day, they alternated the men and women. There was no variety of food,
only fish and stale black bread and porridge for every meal. But, this was
paradise compared to what followed in this woman's life.
In 1938, they were still there and her father was arrested by the NKVD and
she and her mother never saw or heard form him again. They were ousted from
their one room flat, as they no longer had any income or any rights at all.
They moved to a tiny closet in the basement of some rat trap building and
then looked for work. Then the war came. They lived on rotten potatoes and
other garbage of which they worked brutally for. There was little or not
heat through the Russian winters in their places of dwelling. She was
forced
to dig anti-tank ditches until her hands bled for hours and hours every
day-
sun up to sun down in the bitter cold. Her mother walked several miles to
get sacks of the rotten potatoes they survived on. After the war, the NKVD
arrested her as she said the wrong thing innocently about wanting to go
back
to the USA to some British visiting military over there and word got back
they tried to get her out of there. Even the worst American prisons are
nothing compared to the prisons in Russia. She was sentenced to 10 years in
a Siberian labor camp, of which she is the only known American woman to
survive. It was unimaginable suffering. She finally made it back to the USA
through risking her life, though it was late in her life, if I remember
correctly, she was in her 60's. What I read of what she went through was
horrific.
I do note, when the chart ruler is at 9 of Virgo or Pisces, it is much
worse
than other planets in the chart. There was another case, which was the
worst
I had ever seen. A woman had her chart ruler, the Moon at 9 of Pisces,
opposing Pluto at 9 degrees of Virgo, with Jupiter at 9 of Aries [another
bad degree] tying in. Semi-sextiles, I have found in my research are not so
much personality traits as they are fated experiences in one's life. Mars
opposed Saturn at 22 of Leo and Aquarius [both bad degrees] across her
3rd/9th house axis of travel. This tied into Capricorn on the 7th house,
which is often abuse/misfortune coming from others. Her Sun/Mercury
conjunction was at 26 of Taurus, in conjunction with Caput Algol of
violence. Her ascendant was at 6 of Cancer; 6 of cardinal signs often
indicating a physical problem or handicap. When she was 15 years old, her
natal south node was tightly conjunct the ascendant of her solar return for
the year. This is always something fated, but by itself, is not always bad.
You have to look at everything. In this case, it was horrendous. Like I
said, this was about the worst astro chart I had ever seen. Her 1978 solar
return also had the Saturn in conjunction with Mars 15 degrees of Leo
[another hideous degree], but this was loose, in the solar return 7th house
for that year. I note when certain aspects repeat in a return chart like
that; those that have a tight aspect in the natal chart, this will trigger
a
fated event within that year, and the aspect does not have to be the same.
In this case, Saturn opposed Mars [violence] in her natal chart and in the
solar return chart, they conjoined.
She ran away from home that year and wound up in California. Her living
situation did not work out and she made the bad judgment of hitching a
ride.
She was financially broke, etc. A devout Christian picked her up. He then
took her into the desert, raped her, stabbed her and chopped her arms off,
with an axe, of which she survived. His planets tied right into hers for
violence. He was given a light prison sentence and upon release, stabbed
another woman to death after raping her. The former woman who survived was
forced to testify at this new trial when her lunar nodes were conjoined by
transiting the nodes. The nodes are not personality traits, but points of
fate in one's chart.
In closing, always remember this, as it is extremely important. I have
studied astrology on my own for many, many years. The case above, I came
across in an astrology book and then did some of my own research. This was
a
long time ago. I believe the author was Edna Rowlands or something like
that, I can't remember. Never, ever have I run across a murder/victim case,
where the murderer's Saturn was not in hard aspect to the victim's ruler.
Saturn is our weak point in our own charts; where we suffer and experience
related losses through life, but it is a point of our own personal power
when relating to others. Always check the charts of others for their Saturn
position in relating to your chart ruler/s. The hard aspects, such as the
conjunction, square, and opposition are blatant, but also be aware of the
semi-sextile, the semi-square, the inconjunct and the sesi-square. At
least,
this person can bring problems into your life; victimizing you in some way,
or at worst, mayhem and murder. Lesser aspects I have noted in regards to
the Saturn ties also do include the trine, the sextile, and the inconjunct.
They will have something over on you and can use it against you. Just be
very aware of the Saturn placements in relationship charts.
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.com
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Hailazazel posted:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... grees.html
"9 Degrees of Virgo and Pisces are known as fatal degrees, body in the
ditch
degrees and degrees of suffering.
9 degrees of Pisces is one of the worst degrees in the Zodiac."
Anyone has more information on the 9th degree of Pisces?
I'm asking because I have Saturn placed on the 9th of Pisces.
HAIL SATAN!!!!
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