Something You Don't Want to Hear

[tabby]

We have zero interest in being sheep. I dont give a shit if a sheep is a good animal. The Christian's have used this for centuries for a reason. Cows are good animals too, I suppose in your next rabbinical post you will be educating us all on calling ourselves cows. I mean that's what goy means after all.

You jews are all the same. Oh didnt you do this on other people!! Oh the humanity!! Look at me be a victim everyone! 6 gorrilion tears are coming out. Yes it's always such mean and nasty Aldrick, calling jews out Jewing. You wanna know something else funny? Almost all the people I have fought with in the past.....are gone.

Your little cursing shit seems to be a tad broken now too...... it's only going to get worse for all of you.

Maxine had a sermon once, she said imagine the audacity of being called a sheep. A stupid animal that gets fleeced. This serves literally no purpose to push. Are you helping new people here? Are you coming up with new meditations? Writing a motivation piece? A poem perhaps?

No...a shit post about how we need to call ourselves sheep with the JOS as our shepherds, which would imply to everyone we cannot think and do whatever we are told. To become the laughing stock of the Satanic world if we did that. Your jewish comrades would be pounding their fists spitting in laughter.

But I guess it's up to me, to point out the obvious. Now how about you do as your shepherd tells you and move along, sheep boy.

Ah, Aldrick? He literally posted at the beginning of this RTR schedule a runic working to help people with strengthening their will and not have their fears get in the way of living.

 

[Jrvan]

The bible refers to the dumb fucks that follow it blindly and without knowing even why they do that, as sheep, and rather proudly. What is holy or acceptable here? By definition, one becomes a Satanist by the rejection of this identity.

On the other hand, the devil is represented as a goat, and we still use GOAT as in a synonym of Greatest Of All Time and for other cool things. Goats also have a similar mindset as a species. Regardless this remains a symbolic thing.

Animals despite of what "is the truth" unavoidably get placed in these categories. Sheep aren't as cool as wolves, nor as clever, let alone as fitting in the so called "Left Hand Path".

All this intense focus appears to be more literary autism focus or mental gymnastics.

I have called careless people as sheep before, for obvious reasons. Even the enemy calls them this, it's a derogatory term to show lack of consciousness and incapacity to make decisions. If you call someone a pig, despite of the "inherent values of pigs", pigs are known to feast on feces and whatever else. This doesn't villify pigs.

On the other hand, this behavior is not expected from species like humans, and this is what makes the contrast. It's not "pig shaming" nor "feminity shaming" or other literary gymnastic thing.

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Or am I totally wrong here in thinking that the reason we single out sheep is because of its association to xtianity and lack of offical announcement that this animal is sacred?

If you all want to stay stuck in the same perception as everyone else in society in regards to sheep even though they're wrong, then fine. I'll say nothing more. I understand that we talk the way the commoners talk in order to impart knowledge more easily, but on a personal level we should have a different type of understanding. We should always seek Truth. Shame on me for trying to bring that higher understanding to all of you. Shame on me for trying to enlighten you about something you had a false perception about. Fuck me for trying to seek Truth in even the smallest things that most of you deem a nonissue, and to spread that Truth. Fuck me for making an interesting thread that's different from the norm, and giving everyone something new to think about. Who wants knowledge and facts, right? So boring.

Whatever.

Sheep are part of the same genus as goats, capricornis. They're used as a symbol in the Magnum Opus. Their male variant, the ram, is beloved by almost everyone. It's literally just the word "sheep" that is so absolutely negatively charged. And even if you say that no one is thinking like this about the animal itself, some people still benefited from the new information about them that we presented. They ended up realizing a lot of what they thought they knew about the animal was incorrect, and their opinion of the animal changed.

Fine. I'll take my "autism" elsewhere.

 

[Wayofthegods]

We have zero interest in being sheep. I dont give a shit if a sheep is a good animal. The Christian's have used this for centuries for a reason. Cows are good animals too, I suppose in your next rabbinical post you will be educating us all on calling ourselves cows. I mean that's what goy means after all.

You jews are all the same. Oh didnt you do this on other people!! Oh the humanity!! Look at me be a victim everyone! 6 gorrilion tears are coming out. Yes it's always such mean and nasty Aldrick, calling jews out Jewing. You wanna know something else funny? Almost all the people I have fought with in the past.....are gone.

Your little cursing shit seems to be a tad broken now too...... it's only going to get worse for all of you.

Maxine had a sermon once, she said imagine the audacity of being called a sheep. A stupid animal that gets fleeced. This serves literally no purpose to push. Are you helping new people here? Are you coming up with new meditations? Writing a motivation piece? A poem perhaps?

No...a shit post about how we need to call ourselves sheep with the JOS as our shepherds, which would imply to everyone we cannot think and do whatever we are told. To become the laughing stock of the Satanic world if we did that. Your jewish comrades would be pounding their fists spitting in laughter.

But I guess it's up to me, to point out the obvious. Now how about you do as your shepherd tells you and move along, sheep boy.

Ah, Aldrick? He literally posted at the beginning of this RTR schedule a runic working to help people with strengthening their will and not have their fears get in the way of living.

Oh hi fake account.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

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Maxine had a sermon once, she said imagine the audacity of being called a sheep. A stupid animal that gets fleeced. This serves literally no purpose to push. Are you helping new people here? Are you coming up with new meditations? Writing a motivation piece? A poem perhaps?

No...a shit post about how we need to call ourselves sheep with the JOS as our shepherds, which would imply to everyone we cannot think and do whatever we are told. To become the laughing stock of the Satanic world if we did that. Your jewish comrades would be pounding their fists spitting in laughter.

Jrvan said I believe, that we, as SS, should guide other people, who are broadly called today "sheep". In the future, that is.

I don't see where he even said half of the stuff where you say. Also, as about every time there is a disagreement, that doesn't make anyone a jew.

HPS Maxine's statement here stands supreme as per usual. Calling someone a sheep is only an insult. Satanism is going on the opposite side of this enemy sheep promoting mentality.

 

[Jrvan]

The bible refers to the dumb fucks that follow it blindly and without knowing even why they do that, as sheep, and rather proudly. What is holy or acceptable here? By definition, one becomes a Satanist by the rejection of this identity.

On the other hand, the devil is represented as a goat, and we still use GOAT as in a synonym of Greatest Of All Time and for other cool things. Goats also have a similar mindset as a species. Regardless this remains a symbolic thing.

Animals despite of what "is the truth" unavoidably get placed in these categories. Sheep aren't as cool as wolves, nor as clever, let alone as fitting in the so called "Left Hand Path".

All this intense focus appears to be more literary autism focus or mental gymnastics.

I have called careless people as sheep before, for obvious reasons. Even the enemy calls them this, it's a derogatory term to show lack of consciousness and incapacity to make decisions. If you call someone a pig, despite of the "inherent values of pigs", pigs are known to feast on feces and whatever else. This doesn't villify pigs.

On the other hand, this behavior is not expected from species like humans, and this is what makes the contrast. It's not "pig shaming" nor "feminity shaming" or other literary gymnastic thing.

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Or am I totally wrong here in thinking that the reason we single out sheep is because of its association to xtianity and lack of offical announcement that this animal is sacred?

If you all want to stay stuck in the same perception as everyone else in society in regards to sheep even though they're wrong, then fine. I'll say nothing more. I understand that we talk the way the commoners talk in order to impart knowledge more easily, but on a personal level we should have a different type of understanding. We should always seek Truth. Shame on me for trying to bring that higher understanding to all of you. Shame on me for trying to enlighten you about something you had a false perception about. Fuck me for trying to seek Truth in even the smallest things that most of you deem a nonissue, and to spread that Truth. Fuck me for making an interesting thread that's different from the norm, and giving everyone something new to think about. Who wants knowledge and facts, right? So boring.

Whatever.

Sheep are part of the same genus as goats, capricornis. They're used as a symbol in the Magnum Opus. Their male variant, the ram, is beloved by almost everyone. It's literally just the word "sheep" that is so absolutely negatively charged. And even if you say that no one is thinking like this about the animal itself, some people still benefited from the new information about them that we presented. They ended up realizing a lot of what they thought they knew about the animal was incorrect, and their opinion of the animal changed.

Fine. I'll take my "autism" elsewhere.

Correction: they're part of the same subfamily tribe, caprini. My mistake.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

The bible refers to the dumb fucks that follow it blindly and without knowing even why they do that, as sheep, and rather proudly. What is holy or acceptable here? By definition, one becomes a Satanist by the rejection of this identity.

On the other hand, the devil is represented as a goat, and we still use GOAT as in a synonym of Greatest Of All Time and for other cool things. Goats also have a similar mindset as a species. Regardless this remains a symbolic thing.

Animals despite of what "is the truth" unavoidably get placed in these categories. Sheep aren't as cool as wolves, nor as clever, let alone as fitting in the so called "Left Hand Path".

All this intense focus appears to be more literary autism focus or mental gymnastics.

I have called careless people as sheep before, for obvious reasons. Even the enemy calls them this, it's a derogatory term to show lack of consciousness and incapacity to make decisions. If you call someone a pig, despite of the "inherent values of pigs", pigs are known to feast on feces and whatever else. This doesn't villify pigs.

On the other hand, this behavior is not expected from species like humans, and this is what makes the contrast. It's not "pig shaming" nor "feminity shaming" or other literary gymnastic thing.

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Or am I totally wrong here in thinking that the reason we single out sheep is because of its association to xtianity and lack of offical announcement that this animal is sacred?

If you all want to stay stuck in the same perception as everyone else in society in regards to sheep even though they're wrong, then fine. I'll say nothing more. I understand that we talk the way the commoners talk in order to impart knowledge more easily, but on a personal level we should have a different type of understanding. We should always seek Truth. Shame on me for trying to bring that higher understanding to all of you. Shame on me for trying to enlighten you about something you had a false perception about. Fuck me for trying to seek Truth in even the smallest things that most of you deem a nonissue, and to spread that Truth. Fuck me for making an interesting thread that's different from the norm, and giving everyone something new to think about. Who wants knowledge and facts, right? So boring.

Whatever.

Sheep are part of the same genus as goats, capricornis. They're used as a symbol in the Magnum Opus. Their male variant, the ram, is beloved by almost everyone. It's literally just the word "sheep" that is so absolutely negatively charged. And even if you say that no one is thinking like this about the animal itself, some people still benefited from the new information about them that we presented. They ended up realizing a lot of what they thought they knew about the animal was incorrect, and their opinion of the animal changed.

Fine. I'll take my "autism" elsewhere.

If you think people not accepting something such as a diatribe on sheep, is making them "deny truth", "less satanic", or whatever of the sort, and you try to cure this by incessantly trying to force it down to people, this makes no sense.

There is no other way to call this but literary autism or simply OCD. Is this negative? Well, no. But is this understood or taken as positive? Generally neither.

After a point it serves nothing but to enforce something for whatever reason, which I only see as an emotional reason of randomly enforcing a standard for no reason.

Nobody hates sheep fundamentally as a species or a genus. Or for...their gender. Or whatever.

The correlations existing are because of the bible and behavioral patterns of sheep that the enemy makes frequent mention of the bible, which is about negative herding and so on.

While this was understood on the initial topic then all of it went into some sort of strange argumentative territory that doesn't even make much sense.

 

[siatris666]

thanks for ruining my brain

ok ok i will love female sheep now please dont kill me or say im not a Satanist or smth

smhf

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

People don't usually call humans in gangs stupid.

Huh? Most people in gangs are pretty stupid especially if it’s the type of gang to kill people based on what color clothes they are wearing or something else trivial like a “diss”.

 

[Jrvan]

The bible refers to the dumb fucks that follow it blindly and without knowing even why they do that, as sheep, and rather proudly. What is holy or acceptable here? By definition, one becomes a Satanist by the rejection of this identity.

On the other hand, the devil is represented as a goat, and we still use GOAT as in a synonym of Greatest Of All Time and for other cool things. Goats also have a similar mindset as a species. Regardless this remains a symbolic thing.

Animals despite of what "is the truth" unavoidably get placed in these categories. Sheep aren't as cool as wolves, nor as clever, let alone as fitting in the so called "Left Hand Path".

All this intense focus appears to be more literary autism focus or mental gymnastics.

I have called careless people as sheep before, for obvious reasons. Even the enemy calls them this, it's a derogatory term to show lack of consciousness and incapacity to make decisions. If you call someone a pig, despite of the "inherent values of pigs", pigs are known to feast on feces and whatever else. This doesn't villify pigs.

On the other hand, this behavior is not expected from species like humans, and this is what makes the contrast. It's not "pig shaming" nor "feminity shaming" or other literary gymnastic thing.

Sheep are part of the same genus as goats, capricornis. They're used as a symbol in the Magnum Opus. Their male variant, the ram, is beloved by almost everyone. It's literally just the word "sheep" that is so absolutely negatively charged. And even if you say that no one is thinking like this about the animal itself, some people still benefited from the new information about them that we presented. They ended up realizing a lot of what they thought they knew about the animal was incorrect, and their opinion of the animal changed.

Fine. I'll take my "autism" elsewhere.

If you think people not accepting something such as a diatribe on sheep, is making them "deny truth", "less satanic", or whatever of the sort, and you try to cure this by incessantly trying to force it down to people, this makes no sense.

There is no other way to call this but literary autism or simply OCD. Is this negative? Well, no. But is this understood or taken as positive? Generally neither.

After a point it serves nothing but to enforce something for whatever reason, which I only see as an emotional reason of randomly enforcing a standard for no reason.

Nobody hates sheep fundamentally as a species or a genus. Or for...their gender. Or whatever.

The correlations existing are because of the bible.

What I meant by "seeking truth" was that we should always look for the factual truth in things, like a proper scientist. I wasn't trying to force anything. I was presenting the facts. Facts are facts. What I was forceful about was people not making it a personal thing, not misrepresenting my arguments, and having a fair discussion.

How do you know for certain that it's not a combination of any of those things, or all of them (bible, gender, species)? Especially when xians hate females. And I don't even mean within the JoS. All of society. Is it not worthwhile to explore the reasons why people in society think the way they do about sheep?

It's just madness that people got defensive thinking I was attacking the JoS over this, or even talking about everyone here.

If you truly think this is only a waste of time, and there's no value in it... then like I already said, I will stop. I wasn't trying to waste anyone's time. This all just blew up out of proportion, personal attacks happened, and this thread with its original good intent just became bigger and more explosive than I ever imagined it would.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

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Correction: they're part of the same subfamily tribe, caprini. My mistake.

No big deal. Also, consider that overt focus on a thing, is in most cases not bad, but is part of personal study most of the time. For example, it's good to have OCD levels of focus when studying, or autistic levels of focus when learning, defining terms such as those who are linguists etc [repetitive learning etc], but this rarely fares good in explaining points or in communication. Let alone regular communication.

I was not trying to insult with any of my replies, just illustrate how this looks like from the exterior. I knew quite a few genius and very smart people who have been doing this, and could not explain their points because of this.

 

[Jrvan]

thanks for ruining my brain

ok ok i will love female sheep now please dont kill me or say im not a Satanist or smth

smhf

Do whatever you want.

 

[tabby]

We have zero interest in being sheep. I dont give a shit if a sheep is a good animal. The Christian's have used this for centuries for a reason. Cows are good animals too, I suppose in your next rabbinical post you will be educating us all on calling ourselves cows. I mean that's what goy means after all.

You jews are all the same. Oh didnt you do this on other people!! Oh the humanity!! Look at me be a victim everyone! 6 gorrilion tears are coming out. Yes it's always such mean and nasty Aldrick, calling jews out Jewing. You wanna know something else funny? Almost all the people I have fought with in the past.....are gone.

Your little cursing shit seems to be a tad broken now too...... it's only going to get worse for all of you.

Maxine had a sermon once, she said imagine the audacity of being called a sheep. A stupid animal that gets fleeced. This serves literally no purpose to push. Are you helping new people here? Are you coming up with new meditations? Writing a motivation piece? A poem perhaps?

No...a shit post about how we need to call ourselves sheep with the JOS as our shepherds, which would imply to everyone we cannot think and do whatever we are told. To become the laughing stock of the Satanic world if we did that. Your jewish comrades would be pounding their fists spitting in laughter.

But I guess it's up to me, to point out the obvious. Now how about you do as your shepherd tells you and move along, sheep boy.

Ah, Aldrick? He literally posted at the beginning of this RTR schedule a runic working to help people with strengthening their will and not have their fears get in the way of living.

Oh hi fake account.

... are you kidding me?

 

[Jrvan]

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Correction: they're part of the same subfamily tribe, caprini. My mistake.

No big deal. Also, consider that overt focus on a thing, is in most cases not bad, but is part of personal study most of the time. For example, it's good to have OCD levels of focus when studying, or autistic levels of focus when learning, defining terms such as those who are linguists etc [repetitive learning etc], but this rarely fares good in explaining points or in communication. Let alone regular communication.

I was not trying to insult with any of my replies, just illustrate how this looks like from the exterior. I knew quite a few genius and very smart people who have been doing this, and could not explain their points because of this.

I see. Thank you for explaining. I know there's truth to things that people like SWG say when they talk about "appearance over reality" and such, but I don't like it. I guess it's just the way it is for now. How something looks and how it sounds is also very important. Not everyone is going to be maximally invested in the science-y intellectual department, and I just have to accept that.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

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What I meant by "seeking truth" was that we should always look for the factual truth in things, like a proper scientist. I wasn't trying to force anything. I was presenting the facts. Facts are facts. What I was forceful about was people not making it a personal thing, not misrepresenting my arguments, and having a fair discussion.

How do you know for certain that it's not a combination of any of those things, or all of them (bible, gender, species)? Especially when xians hate females. And I don't even mean within the JoS. All of society. Is it not worthwhile to explore the reasons why people in society think the way they do about sheep?

It's just madness that people got defensive thinking I was attacking the JoS over this, or even talking about everyone here.

If you truly think this is only a waste of time, and there's no value in it... then like I already said, I will stop. I wasn't trying to waste anyone's time. This all just blew up out of proportion, personal attacks happened, and this thread with its original good intent just became bigger and more explosive than I ever imagined it would.

Well I told you why people see sheep as a negative here, because their behaviors applied in human subjects breed social disaster, especially under conditions such as where the herdsmen are bad.

I understand your perspective and what you mean. What I am trying to show you is how this can reflect in terms of communication.

This, too far, can make people think you are legit trolling. While you might not even intend that.

For example, sheep is not about a diatribe on sheep, but rather, the fact for example, Jewsus is called "The lamb of God" and other worthless stuff, or because the bible refers to the stupid braindead followers it has, as "sheep". All of these are negative correlations.

That's all.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

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Not everyone is going to be maximally invested in the science-y intellectual department, and I just have to accept that.

Well no, nope. And that's normal. So don't think others are abnormal for not following through with this. Some people brainstorm a lot, others spend their mental energy in other topics.

 

[Wayofthegods]

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Maxine had a sermon once, she said imagine the audacity of being called a sheep. A stupid animal that gets fleeced. This serves literally no purpose to push. Are you helping new people here? Are you coming up with new meditations? Writing a motivation piece? A poem perhaps?

No...a shit post about how we need to call ourselves sheep with the JOS as our shepherds, which would imply to everyone we cannot think and do whatever we are told. To become the laughing stock of the Satanic world if we did that. Your jewish comrades would be pounding their fists spitting in laughter.

Jrvan said I believe, that we, as SS, should guide other people, who are broadly called today "sheep". In the future, that is.

I don't see where he even said half of the stuff where you say. Also, as about every time there is a disagreement, that doesn't make anyone a jew.

HPS Maxine's statement here stands supreme as per usual. Calling someone a sheep is only an insult. Satanism is going on the opposite side of this enemy sheep promoting mentality.

Oh my bad. I probably misunderstood a bit of it. Yeah I'm actually a very understanding person. But I also know how easy it is to infiltrate us. It just doesnt make sense. When I had only been here a year, I was in wonder and amazement at everything. Not pushing sheep agendas.

People misunderstand and do silly things. But not like okay everybody! We are hence forth sheep!! I cant you! BA BA BAAAA!!!!

 

[Jrvan]

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What I meant by "seeking truth" was that we should always look for the factual truth in things, like a proper scientist. I wasn't trying to force anything. I was presenting the facts. Facts are facts. What I was forceful about was people not making it a personal thing, not misrepresenting my arguments, and having a fair discussion.

How do you know for certain that it's not a combination of any of those things, or all of them (bible, gender, species)? Especially when xians hate females. And I don't even mean within the JoS. All of society. Is it not worthwhile to explore the reasons why people in society think the way they do about sheep?

It's just madness that people got defensive thinking I was attacking the JoS over this, or even talking about everyone here.

If you truly think this is only a waste of time, and there's no value in it... then like I already said, I will stop. I wasn't trying to waste anyone's time. This all just blew up out of proportion, personal attacks happened, and this thread with its original good intent just became bigger and more explosive than I ever imagined it would.

Well I told you why people see sheep as a negative here, because their behaviors applied in human subjects breed social disaster, especially under conditions such as where the herdsmen are bad.

I understand your perspective and what you mean. What I am trying to show you is how this can reflect in terms of communication.

This, too far, can make people think you are legit trolling. While you might not even intend that.

For example, sheep is not about a diatribe on sheep, but rather, the fact for example, Jewsus is called "The lamb of God" and other worthless stuff, or because the bible refers to the stupid braindead followers it has, as "sheep". All of these are negative correlations.

That's all.

Understood. Although Maxine also noted, IIRC, about the "lamb of God" being stolen from Horus in the Osiris myth. It's about the reborn soul. Xians don't have anything original that doesn't come from Pagan symbolism, as Maxine said many times.

I get it though. And I definitely can't change the xian baggage associated with the word "sheep" overnight. That developed over a long time of xian oppression and cruelty.

 

[Wayofthegods]

Correction: they're part of the same subfamily tribe, caprini. My mistake.

No big deal. Also, consider that overt focus on a thing, is in most cases not bad, but is part of personal study most of the time. For example, it's good to have OCD levels of focus when studying, or autistic levels of focus when learning, defining terms such as those who are linguists etc [repetitive learning etc], but this rarely fares good in explaining points or in communication. Let alone regular communication.

I was not trying to insult with any of my replies, just illustrate how this looks like from the exterior. I knew quite a few genius and very smart people who have been doing this, and could not explain their points because of this.

I see. Thank you for explaining. I know there's truth to things that people like SWG say when they talk about "appearance over reality" and such, but I don't like it. I guess it's just the way it is for now. How something looks and how it sounds is also very important. Not everyone is going to be maximally invested in the science-y intellectual department, and I just have to accept that.

Now howd on! Puts glasses on. I can get sciencey. We can get all white and nerdy. I down wit that.

Perhaps I have misjudged the intentions here. You cant go all sheep lord 9000 on me, and not expect to shock me a little. But I'm in mary bo peep mode now.

 

[Jrvan]

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Maxine had a sermon once, she said imagine the audacity of being called a sheep. A stupid animal that gets fleeced. This serves literally no purpose to push. Are you helping new people here? Are you coming up with new meditations? Writing a motivation piece? A poem perhaps?

No...a shit post about how we need to call ourselves sheep with the JOS as our shepherds, which would imply to everyone we cannot think and do whatever we are told. To become the laughing stock of the Satanic world if we did that. Your jewish comrades would be pounding their fists spitting in laughter.

Jrvan said I believe, that we, as SS, should guide other people, who are broadly called today "sheep". In the future, that is.

I don't see where he even said half of the stuff where you say. Also, as about every time there is a disagreement, that doesn't make anyone a jew.

HPS Maxine's statement here stands supreme as per usual. Calling someone a sheep is only an insult. Satanism is going on the opposite side of this enemy sheep promoting mentality.

Oh my bad. I probably misunderstood a bit of it. Yeah I'm actually a very understanding person. But I also know how easy it is to infiltrate us. It just doesnt make sense. When I had only been here a year, I was in wonder and amazement at everything. Not pushing sheep agendas.

People misunderstand and do silly things. But not like okay everybody! We are hence forth sheep!! I cant you! BA BA BAAAA!!!!

I also don't think it's a good idea to go around calling people sheep. Even if we thought of the term in a positive sense. Even if everyone in society tomorrow was suddenly okay with the term, and all of the negative connotations of the term were removed in peoples' minds... it would still be a bizarre and asinine thing to just randomly call someone a sheep, like just because. It would be weird. I can't imagine anyone with a sane mind would do such a thing. Metaphors have a time and place, I believe.

 

[Jrvan]

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Correction: they're part of the same subfamily tribe, caprini. My mistake.

No big deal. Also, consider that overt focus on a thing, is in most cases not bad, but is part of personal study most of the time. For example, it's good to have OCD levels of focus when studying, or autistic levels of focus when learning, defining terms such as those who are linguists etc [repetitive learning etc], but this rarely fares good in explaining points or in communication. Let alone regular communication.

I was not trying to insult with any of my replies, just illustrate how this looks like from the exterior. I knew quite a few genius and very smart people who have been doing this, and could not explain their points because of this.

The irony just dawned on me that I made a post that involved triggering people over the negative connotations of a word, and then as if to prove your point that you were explaining to me about peoples' perceptions and common usage of words, I got triggered by the negative connotations of the word "autism." I really have to laugh at myself.

 

[tabby]

What I meant by "seeking truth" was that we should always look for the factual truth in things, like a proper scientist. I wasn't trying to force anything. I was presenting the facts. Facts are facts. What I was forceful about was people not making it a personal thing, not misrepresenting my arguments, and having a fair discussion.

How do you know for certain that it's not a combination of any of those things, or all of them (bible, gender, species)? Especially when xians hate females. And I don't even mean within the JoS. All of society. Is it not worthwhile to explore the reasons why people in society think the way they do about sheep?

It's just madness that people got defensive thinking I was attacking the JoS over this, or even talking about everyone here.

If you truly think this is only a waste of time, and there's no value in it... then like I already said, I will stop. I wasn't trying to waste anyone's time. This all just blew up out of proportion, personal attacks happened, and this thread with its original good intent just became bigger and more explosive than I ever imagined it would.

Well I told you why people see sheep as a negative here, because their behaviors applied in human subjects breed social disaster, especially under conditions such as where the herdsmen are bad.

I understand your perspective and what you mean. What I am trying to show you is how this can reflect in terms of communication.

This, too far, can make people think you are legit trolling. While you might not even intend that.

For example, sheep is not about a diatribe on sheep, but rather, the fact for example, Jewsus is called "The lamb of God" and other worthless stuff, or because the bible refers to the stupid braindead followers it has, as "sheep". All of these are negative correlations.

That's all.

Understood. Although Maxine also noted, IIRC, about the "lamb of God" being stolen from Horus in the Osiris myth. It's about the reborn soul. Xians don't have anything original that doesn't come from Pagan symbolism, as Maxine said many times.

I get it though. And I definitely can't change the xian baggage associated with the word "sheep" overnight. That developed over a long time of xian oppression and cruelty.

I did honestly believe that by providing information about this animal that it would help to change the negative views about it, since it didn't make sense to me why anyone could hate on this animal so much but love rams despite being the same animal. I guess I don’t understand enough about psychology yet, social things, and trigger words. Even my own psychology it seems.

 

[Sunny]

Neither jrvan or I are saying animals are equal to each other in strength, power, intelligence, craftiness, survival strategies, etc.

Humans and animals could have a beautiful coexistence and work together with a mutual bond for the benefit of everyones wellbeing and ability to thrive. I believe we are meant to have bonds with animals. The way of our creation divides us from them, but are we not all made of the energy from Father Satan?

Animals carry negative connotations. In our journey to be advanced and superior, we lose our respect for the others of Father’s and Mother’s creations simply because we have a different level of power.

How can I think of myself as superior to all other lifeforms when they know better than I do about life and survival? And will probably always know better about those things because I don’t have to have my head low to the ground fighting day-in-day-out. I don’t have to live without the comforts and luxury civilisation provides me. I don’t have to wonder when my next meal will come or if I will die by someone else’s hungry stomach tomorrow.

If the aim of humanity is to recreate everything in nature, what would be the point to life? If we could do everything animals could, there would be no point to their existence. They have their purpose and we have ours.

“The one who is stronger and who dominates is superior.” If that is true, why did society fall to the likes of the jews? They are a vile, smaller number of parasites, weaker on all levels to gentiles. Yet here we are under their thumb. What happened? How does something so inferior dominate something so superior?

How does a parasite like them kill a healthy adult human? Power is not in who dominates who or who is superior. Otherwise there would not be a war.

What is the definition of superior or inferior to you? What makes something strong to you? What makes them weak? - Genuinely asking here, I’m curious about your thought process behind this.

If animals or other life forms are not equal to each other, it means that there are superior and inferior.

In our journey of development and advancement, we do not lose respect for other life forms, beings like the enemy do.

Bacteria, plants, bears, whales and other life forms inferior to mankind know no more about life than you do. Just because they have discovered and know something that humanity has not yet discovered and does not know, that does not make them equal or superior to humanity.

For example, some life forms do not have eyes, ears, noses or anything else. This makes them inferior to life forms that do have these features and capabilities. The comparison is not only in size but also in capability.

The territory and living conditions that mankind has, it has earned through its capabilities and level of development. Just as other life forms earn the territory and living conditions they can with their capacities and power. DNA is a real book of power written chemically in code.

I would like to tell you something interesting but I don't want to make this answer too long so I would suggest that you do your own in-depth research into the brains of reptiles, birds, mammals and humans and compare them.

I am not saying to remove plants and animals but to create the products we need in a more advanced and better way and to give a better life to other life forms as well. For example, it is better to create meat in industrial machines instead of slaughtering animals, I am talking about real meat and not fake and junk meat.

The jews are enemies, this is verifiable in their actions and plans. And we can hate and offend them for what they do but you should know that jews are not literary fleas or fleas in human form. The jews are human and therefore are similar to Gentiles.

It is the beings that the jews follow that are inferior to our Gods. We too were about to leave behind the superiors of the jews but we were not and are not yet sufficiently advanced to protect ourselves without the help of the Gods from beings like the superiors of the jews. Of course, the jews are their allies and physical agents on this planet.

Not only must there be development and spiritual advancement en masse but also development and advancement in all planes of existence in order to approach and follow the Gods.

Umm... us not slaughtering animals for food isn't going to stop wild animals from slaughtering animals for food. And I'm really curious to know how they create dead flesh in a lab. I haven't heard of that. Can you provide some links to such things? By definition, meat is dead flesh. So I just don't understand how they can make "real" meat in a laboratory. That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't it all be "fake" meat by definition if it didn't come from flesh of another creature?

Personally I don't consider jews to be human. They're another invading species that is different from us.

Those are the topics you mentioned that I wanted to respond to. We don't have to agree on everything, just sharing my views.

Evidently, the most ethical thing I have said, we can only expect it from humans and not from wild animals. Producing meat in a more advanced way is more sustainable and cost-effective.

Families in the countryside may be able to raise a few cattle, but the needs of cities require large livestock farms. This is much more expensive than direct meat production.

Meat is only dead after the animal is killed and slaughtered. Before, the meat (muscle cells and others) was alive because it was kept alive by the organism in question.

In the laboratory, instead of growing a whole organism, you grow and replicate specific live cells to create specific meats, feeding them with a machine like the biological organism does.

The biggest problem we haven't solved yet is the creation of haemoglobin. Instead, vegetable proteins are used and the result is vegetable meat and therefore fake.

But we will get there. Not only to create haemoglobin but also every component of the blood, learning from the organs that produce it. Of course, we have to create the organs as well. These discoveries will also be great for medicine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat

The jews may be another species but they are definitely humanoids.

 

[NinRick]

Ah, Aldrick? He literally posted at the beginning of this RTR schedule a runic working to help people with strengthening their will and not have their fears get in the way of living.

Oh hi fake account.

... are you kidding me?

No, when you argue like that it can appear like that.
You focus on the literal animal, (and possibly sexism, appears like that), when nobody said anything bad against the animal itself, just when you apply that on human nature.

But you block that out all day, and try not to understand that. Yelling about those poor sheep, who we spit in the face.


I spit in the face of human-sheep, who don’t think flr themselves, people said it multiple times, it should be clear by now. But you insist on keep writing essays.

Like for real, aren’t there more important things to invest your energy on?

 

[Sunny]

"We shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing, by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium."

Winston Churchill, (Fifty Years Hence, The Strand Magazine (December 1931))

 

[Wayofthegods]

Ah, Aldrick? He literally posted at the beginning of this RTR schedule a runic working to help people with strengthening their will and not have their fears get in the way of living.

Oh hi fake account.

... are you kidding me?

Well let's just look at the facts here. Some random person finds us back in Novemeber. Makes an account, puts up an Anime pic, almost like he knew people did that here. But whatever, joins a Satanic Nazi organization, a few months later follows around a username trying to prove we are all sheep.

Now you tell me. What am I suppose to think? You joined a Satanic Nazi group....to espouse that we are sheep? What's next? We are all Gods Children. Now maybe, someone who's been here for years, might be bored enough and deprogramned enough to randomly think this.

It is also funny to me, that the account you are teaming up with, has not been here a year either. There are many people that have been here well over a Decade. 15 years for me...

November just happened for me. It's funny that very rarely the old true usernames come up with such nonsense games. I could make a fake account right now, and 6 months would go by in a flash, and start some kinda Drama.

So why dont you sit back, and in 3 years, will see if you are even relevant. Then when you do something stupid or get banned, it took years to build up some kinda trust that you are even a person. But no, you want to tell us all how we will think. Just a few months in the door.

March 2020, you were not even here. Much less how about when the final RTR came out? Next you will tell me you have been here for years, but new name. Well one anyone can claim that and two, why? What happened to the old name you went by?

Even Don Danko played this game, and I thought I was crazy for thinking certain accounts were him. It's just so easy to see through anymore for everyone.

If you are new, then how about you sit back and try to learn something?

 

[Jack]

You guys really need to read Rupert Sheldrakes book "Morphic Resonance".
https://2lib.org/book/1310887/70702e
All this dichotomy between Sheep - Shepherd or Conscious and Unconscious people is just running in circles. This is just an artificial distinction. The truth is that both kinds of people need each other.


The truth is that special people (philosophers, Leaders etc) need un - special people (common people in society without any self identity a.k.a NPCs) to feel special.

If everyone was special, then the title "special" would not exist. Every living being is connected to each other through the Superconciousness field. Humans especially are connected to each other. And in a society special people born with astrological connections are nexus points for the Expansion of the species, driven by nature.

A philosopher must opine, come to certain conclusions and then explain these in an easily digestible format of "Ideology " to common people who are unable to be Philosophical in nature. And that drives society to whatever the Philosopher's conclusions are.

These bonds that are in concentric circles with the leader in the center. And all these circles make up a bigger circle and all these bigger circles make up a nation. We are all bound to each other through the essence of life.

We have forgotten to acknowledge these bonds due to digital fake realities that are preventing us to live and experience our own bodies and minds and see the sync we have with other people.

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

Well let's just look at the facts here. Some random person finds us back in Novemeber. Makes an account, puts up an Anime pic, almost like he knew people did that here. But whatever, joins a Satanic Nazi organization, a few months later follows around a username trying to prove we are all sheep.
It is also funny to me, that the account you are teaming up with, has not been here a year either. There are many people that have been here well over a Decade. 15 years for me...

They will probably explain it, But this is a married couple. Most people including myself have had dust-ups with them before but I think they have positive intentions while not being the best at communicating such. Everyone just needs to slow down a bit.

 

[Jrvan]

I also don't think it's a good idea to go around calling people sheep. Even if we thought of the term in a positive sense. Even if everyone in society tomorrow was suddenly okay with the term, and all of the negative connotations of the term were removed in peoples' minds... it would still be a bizarre and asinine thing to just randomly call someone a sheep, like just because. It would be weird. I can't imagine anyone with a sane mind would do such a thing. Metaphors have a time and place, I believe.

As an add on to what I said before: of course it's abusive for xian pastors to constantly refer to everyone as sheep every morning at gathering, and especially in a demeaning way like they do mean it. That's fucked up. It of course makes no sense to constantly refer to anyone as your animals like that. There's no justifiable reason for it, and it doesn't make sense under any context whatsoever, no matter how you try to fly it or justify it.

I highly doubt the ancients ever spoke to people like that in Pagan Temples, saying strange things like "Now gather 'round, my flock." What self-respecting person would ever go for that? Of course no one would accept it. It's strange, absurd, and can't be considered anything but abusive.

Nor did the Pharaohs constantly reaffirm to everyone around them like "You are my sheep. I am your shepherd." That would be crazy.

 

[tabby]

Oh hi fake account.

... are you kidding me?

No, when you argue like that it can appear like that.
You focus on the literal animal, (and possibly sexism, appears like that), when nobody said anything bad against the animal itself, just when you apply that on human nature.

But you block that out all day, and try not to understand that. Yelling about those poor sheep, who we spit in the face.


I spit in the face of human-sheep, who don’t think flr themselves, people said it multiple times, it should be clear by now. But you insist on keep writing essays.

Like for real, aren’t there more important things to invest your energy on?

I’ve already explained that I struggle with communication. My mentality can be incredibly literal at the worst of times (try tell a joke and I might understand 1-2/5 times the meaning without responding seriously). Pair that with poor social skills and you have a recipe for disaster with communication. In day to day things I rely on being able to feel emotions and thoughts to understand what’s going on and how the other person is coming across, but I can’t do that well enough behind a screen.

I can get narrow minded, I’ll admit, when I’m stuck on a thought, and it seems that comes across as yelling... What your seeing is me wording out my thought processes and trying to understand, and feeling upset and frustrated because of being misunderstood. The sexism thing only became such a focus out of a reaction to Ol, but that wasn’t what was going through my head.

Someone says “sheep”... if it’s in a metaphoric or symbolic sense and they mean it in a bad way, my thoughts register it as “why are they talking bad about an animal? This animal isn’t like that...”

jrvan has to help me with symbolism of the mythologies and reading-between-the-lines so to speak, because that’s just how blurred the thoughts between “non-literal” and “literal” is in my head. I don’t have the logic to properly analyse things correctly without completely getting lost in details that may or may not even exist. Which is what I seemed to have done here.

I work with my hands, and if I can’t visualise or see in diagrams/pictures what the heck anyone is talking about it takes a while before the penny drops and I get that “oooh” moment and see the connections on my own. If it’s not a straight forward fact then good luck to me and anyone else trying to talk to me.

 

[Jrvan]

Oh hi fake account.

... are you kidding me?

No, when you argue like that it can appear like that.
You focus on the literal animal, (and possibly sexism, appears like that), when nobody said anything bad against the animal itself, just when you apply that on human nature.

But you block that out all day, and try not to understand that. Yelling about those poor sheep, who we spit in the face.


I spit in the face of human-sheep, who don’t think flr themselves, people said it multiple times, it should be clear by now. But you insist on keep writing essays.

Like for real, aren’t there more important things to invest your energy on?

Just because it seems like a waste of energy investment to you, doesn't mean it's not important to her. She wasn't even yelling in the first place. Nor was I. Neither of us did until things got personal.

I already explained months ago that I really enjoy debate. It's something I like doing. That's what I was doing from the very start of this thread, and sharing insights and information. Until misunderstandings happened and the personal attacks rolled in.

What people here should understand about Tabby is that animals are very central and important to her, very close to her heart (I'm not saying that they aren't important to other people here so don't even start with that). Her love for animals spurred her to want to defend and vindicate one of them because she saw it as an unfair slight of the animal's reputation, especially when she knew from experience (and then proved with scientific evidence as well) that they're not as stupid as some people think.

I'm going to toss out a random example here to try to relate Tabby's point of view, and someone should correct me if I am off about this. For Tabby, using an animal metaphor in this way is comparable to the cringe that someone here would probably feel about metaphors in songs and common parlance and such about "facing one's demons." Am I wrong that most people here have stopped using phrases like that even though they're still in popular usage in society? The popular perception in society is that "Demons are negative." We all love Demons, and we know that they're not like how everyone else in society thinks of them. They're our friends. That's why we don't use common expressions and phrases like that which have to do with Demons anymore. Well, for Tabby, it's like that with animals too. Does this make sense?

 

[Jrvan]

People don't usually call humans in gangs stupid.

Huh? Most people in gangs are pretty stupid especially if it’s the type of gang to kill people based on what color clothes they are wearing or something else trivial like a “diss”.

Well, since you're curious, my line of thinking with this is that some people in society talk way more about "stupid sheep" than they do about "stupid gangs." They could say to someone being a marxist, or a neo nazi (the bad kind), or a radical feminist, communist, etc... something like "Hey you stupid hoodlum! Throw your colors away and get your life together. Start thinking for yourself. Your jewish cult is no good for you." And that would be totally accurate. But the knee-jerk reaction for some people is "sheep." Also, marxists, communists, neo nazis, and more. What can be said about them commonly besides that they're stupid? Exactly what you said - they kill people based on what color clothes they are wearing. Leftists would strangle right wingers to death if they could get away with it, and some of them surely have. They proved that at the riots last year during the election.

Meanwhile... domestic ewe kill count - 0

That was the kind of point I was aiming for with that.

By the way this is a disclaimer: I suppose I'm kind of testing the waters here with my opinion about neo nazis. I haven't seen what the general attitude is towards them here on the forums. I've personally observed that their behavior is very similar to territorial israelis, and I don't consider them to be real Nazis. Maybe I'm wrong about them, and I'm open to that.

 

[tabby]

Oh hi fake account.

... are you kidding me?

Well let's just look at the facts here. Some random person finds us back in Novemeber. Makes an account, puts up an Anime pic, almost like he knew people did that here. But whatever, joins a Satanic Nazi organization, a few months later follows around a username trying to prove we are all sheep.

Now you tell me. What am I suppose to think? You joined a Satanic Nazi group....to espouse that we are sheep? What's next? We are all Gods Children. Now maybe, someone who's been here for years, might be bored enough and deprogramned enough to randomly think this.

It is also funny to me, that the account you are teaming up with, has not been here a year either. There are many people that have been here well over a Decade. 15 years for me...

November just happened for me. It's funny that very rarely the old true usernames come up with such nonsense games. I could make a fake account right now, and 6 months would go by in a flash, and start some kinda Drama.

So why dont you sit back, and in 3 years, will see if you are even relevant. Then when you do something stupid or get banned, it took years to build up some kinda trust that you are even a person. But no, you want to tell us all how we will think. Just a few months in the door.

March 2020, you were not even here. Much less how about when the final RTR came out? Next you will tell me you have been here for years, but new name. Well one anyone can claim that and two, why? What happened to the old name you went by?

Even Don Danko played this game, and I thought I was crazy for thinking certain accounts were him. It's just so easy to see through anymore for everyone.

If you are new, then how about you sit back and try to learn something?

*sighs* you really have a way of making people feel welcome and like family. If I have to give the High Priest a photo of myself and my natal chart just to get ones like you off my back and actually let me be myself around here then I will do so.

Firstly I’m not a dude. Secondly, I came to JoS in September/October 2020, and was too nervous to make an account until November. I was very brainwashed, in a lot of pain, and my social skills were and still are practically zero.

I follow jrvan around because I feel safe with him and I trust him. JoS may be an online forum, but to my mind it’s no different to walking into a room full of strangers and people I don’t know and have never spoken to. Being introverted and a lot of the time asocial, I stay with the ones I’m comfortable with until I can gain some personal confidence. But that really isn’t working out too well because I either get put down or told I don’t exist.

I never said anything about SS being sheep, or that they should be. Neither did jrvan. I was only very literally defending an animal that people commonly think of as dumb.

My first experience here socially was getting called an alternate account all because I didn’t understand what the hang ups were about with generalising men and women. That resulted in drama with SWG because he insulted my partner and I wanted to defend him since SWG didn’t know him or our situation at all. I was still carrying a shit tonne of trauma from people never letting me defend the ones I care about. I hate it when people look down at me and say “go sit over there and let the men work.” I hate being told to be useless and I hate feeling useless. Naturally that hate and trauma bled out into my comments and I lost control of my emotions.

I’m still learning to gain control because I can be explosive and violent whenever things get too much. I remember something HP Maxine said in an article that as you grow in advancement and increase your personal power, negative emotions directed at others can cause misfortune and harm to them. But not letting those emotions out is also bad for yourself too.

jrvan is much more comfortable being social than I am. So he talks more than I do. He also has more knowledge than I do. And when I feel up to it, I go through spouts of talking a lot and not talking at all. I don’t know how to convey my views without it appearing like I’m trying to shove it all down a persons throat, and thanks to HPHC I’m even aware that that’s how it seemed to others. I never intended to come across like that, and I spoke with my Demon last night and he told me ways I can better communicate without getting myself or others hurt over misunderstandings.

I don’t care if you don’t trust me or believe what I say. I don’t expect you too because how can you? I don’t know your face and you don’t know mine. I could spill my whole life here on JoS, and you would never believe me.

Regardless, I say this honestly under Father Satan, this is my one and only account I have ever created for JoS. I have not been here longer than September 2020. I dedicated with my name in blood to Satan and I do cleaning and AoP everyday. I try my best during RTR schedules, I’ve had a few speed wobbles, even crashed sometimes, but I still try.

All I have done for the past few months is “sit back” and learn and meditate. I have taken shit and been slandered at times, but here I am still trying. This entire comment section these last couple days have been nothing but me trying to learn and understand.

I’m not going to be sorry for thinking differently and being different and abnormal. I’m not going to lower my head just because you said so. I’m me, and if you hate that so be it. I will try my best to learn better social skills. I’m here for my people, and Satan. I’m here because I finally found a way to bring justice to those who harm animals, children, and nature, and heal myself from those who hurt me in the past.

At the end of the day this is all meaningless without you being able to see my face though, isn’t it? All anyone can do here is take a person for their word, maybe tap into their energies, and hope they’re not an enemy.

So nothing I say would be “proof” to you that I am a person, a human, someone who doesn’t deserve the treatment you have given me and jrvan today. But that’s not what matters to me.

It’s not you I have to prove myself to at the end of the day. Only Satan.

 

[Jrvan]

If animals or other life forms are not equal to each other, it means that there are superior and inferior.

In our journey of development and advancement, we do not lose respect for other life forms, beings like the enemy do.

Bacteria, plants, bears, whales and other life forms inferior to mankind know no more about life than you do. Just because they have discovered and know something that humanity has not yet discovered and does not know, that does not make them equal or superior to humanity.

For example, some life forms do not have eyes, ears, noses or anything else. This makes them inferior to life forms that do have these features and capabilities. The comparison is not only in size but also in capability.

The territory and living conditions that mankind has, it has earned through its capabilities and level of development. Just as other life forms earn the territory and living conditions they can with their capacities and power. DNA is a real book of power written chemically in code.

I would like to tell you something interesting but I don't want to make this answer too long so I would suggest that you do your own in-depth research into the brains of reptiles, birds, mammals and humans and compare them.

I am not saying to remove plants and animals but to create the products we need in a more advanced and better way and to give a better life to other life forms as well. For example, it is better to create meat in industrial machines instead of slaughtering animals, I am talking about real meat and not fake and junk meat.

The jews are enemies, this is verifiable in their actions and plans. And we can hate and offend them for what they do but you should know that jews are not literary fleas or fleas in human form. The jews are human and therefore are similar to Gentiles.

It is the beings that the jews follow that are inferior to our Gods. We too were about to leave behind the superiors of the jews but we were not and are not yet sufficiently advanced to protect ourselves without the help of the Gods from beings like the superiors of the jews. Of course, the jews are their allies and physical agents on this planet.

Not only must there be development and spiritual advancement en masse but also development and advancement in all planes of existence in order to approach and follow the Gods.

Umm... us not slaughtering animals for food isn't going to stop wild animals from slaughtering animals for food. And I'm really curious to know how they create dead flesh in a lab. I haven't heard of that. Can you provide some links to such things? By definition, meat is dead flesh. So I just don't understand how they can make "real" meat in a laboratory. That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't it all be "fake" meat by definition if it didn't come from flesh of another creature?

Personally I don't consider jews to be human. They're another invading species that is different from us.

Those are the topics you mentioned that I wanted to respond to. We don't have to agree on everything, just sharing my views.

Evidently, the most ethical thing I have said, we can only expect it from humans and not from wild animals. Producing meat in a more advanced way is more sustainable and cost-effective.

Families in the countryside may be able to raise a few cattle, but the needs of cities require large livestock farms. This is much more expensive than direct meat production.

Meat is only dead after the animal is killed and slaughtered. Before, the meat (muscle cells and others) was alive because it was kept alive by the organism in question.

In the laboratory, instead of growing a whole organism, you grow and replicate specific live cells to create specific meats, feeding them with a machine like the biological organism does.

The biggest problem we haven't solved yet is the creation of haemoglobin. Instead, vegetable proteins are used and the result is vegetable meat and therefore fake.

But we will get there. Not only to create haemoglobin but also every component of the blood, learning from the organs that produce it. Of course, we have to create the organs as well. These discoveries will also be great for medicine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat

The jews may be another species but they are definitely humanoids.

Fair enough. If it happens then it happens. I'm still going to support eating animals even when that happens however because when the animal dies, it would be an utter waste of the animal's body. I mean, it's either that or leave it for the vultures. One way or another that animal is getting eaten though.

I've seen what the jews look like on the inside. They're hybrids, but what they and their masters actually look like is very far from humanoid in my experience. Nasty looking fuckers. Some things you just want to unsee, and for me, that is one of them.

 

[Jrvan]

Oh hi fake account.

... are you kidding me?

Well let's just look at the facts here. Some random person finds us back in Novemeber. Makes an account, puts up an Anime pic, almost like he knew people did that here. But whatever, joins a Satanic Nazi organization, a few months later follows around a username trying to prove we are all sheep.

Now you tell me. What am I suppose to think? You joined a Satanic Nazi group....to espouse that we are sheep? What's next? We are all Gods Children. Now maybe, someone who's been here for years, might be bored enough and deprogramned enough to randomly think this.

It is also funny to me, that the account you are teaming up with, has not been here a year either. There are many people that have been here well over a Decade. 15 years for me...

November just happened for me. It's funny that very rarely the old true usernames come up with such nonsense games. I could make a fake account right now, and 6 months would go by in a flash, and start some kinda Drama.

So why dont you sit back, and in 3 years, will see if you are even relevant. Then when you do something stupid or get banned, it took years to build up some kinda trust that you are even a person. But no, you want to tell us all how we will think. Just a few months in the door.

March 2020, you were not even here. Much less how about when the final RTR came out? Next you will tell me you have been here for years, but new name. Well one anyone can claim that and two, why? What happened to the old name you went by?

Even Don Danko played this game, and I thought I was crazy for thinking certain accounts were him. It's just so easy to see through anymore for everyone.

If you are new, then how about you sit back and try to learn something?

She is learning. But everyone from all walks of life can usually find something to teach as well. Tabby knows a lot about animals. She also knows a lot about sewing and seamstress work. And a wide variety of other topics too. Sometimes I'm surprised by the breadth of knowledge she has about different topics.

Why is relevance an important thing here? We're not trying to take over the forums or anything. If we have relevance right now it's because people are engaging with our topics, and we've made a name for ourselves.

If we got banned for any reason then I don't plan on making another account. I don't like to be where I'm not welcome or wanted. I would continue doing the RTR's because I have an interest in saving my race, my world, and all of humanity for that matter, and also because I'm loyal to Satan and I want to keep doing spiritual warfare for him as one of his warriors. I don't know what else I could possibly do with my life right now as a higher cause. This is where I belong, it's what I'm meant to do.

As a side note, we've learned so much about the Occult in the last 10 months or so since finding the JoS, that it's felt like much longer to us. So much has happened. We saw in real time the election playing out and confirming what the HP was saying sermon to sermon. We watched the vote get stolen on live television. We've had spiritual experiences which would shock the average person in society. Learning and feeling that everything is real, and that even something as seemingly outrageous as aliens are real... and that there's this whole wide universe out there waiting to be explored, and is teeming with other advanced life forms on other planets and galaxies - it's all breathtaking when I think about it. And realizing that what I once thought of as the cold, impersonal, indifferent universe thanks to mainstream scientists - the universe itself in a sense actually does love me and care about me, and supports my existence, all through Father as the face of it. I'm talking about the sermon by HPHC where he said that Father is like the face of the Aether, and without him then it really would be cold and indifferent like the scientists said.

^ If I'm off-base with what I said about Father, then I apologize. That's just how I came to think of it all after that sermon.

 

[NinRick]

You guys really need to read Rupert Sheldrakes book "Morphic Resonance".
https://2lib.org/book/1310887/70702e
All this dichotomy between Sheep - Shepherd or Conscious and Unconscious people is just running in circles. This is just an artificial distinction. The truth is that both kinds of people need each other.


The truth is that special people (philosophers, Leaders etc) need un - special people (common people in society without any self identity a.k.a NPCs) to feel special.

If everyone was special, then the title "special" would not exist. Every living being is connected to each other through the Superconciousness field. Humans especially are connected to each other. And in a society special people born with astrological connections are nexus points for the Expansion of the species, driven by nature.

A philosopher must opine, come to certain conclusions and then explain these in an easily digestible format of "Ideology " to common people who are unable to be Philosophical in nature. And that drives society to whatever the Philosopher's conclusions are.

These bonds that are in concentric circles with the leader in the center. And all these circles make up a bigger circle and all these bigger circles make up a nation. We are all bound to each other through the essence of life.

We have forgotten to acknowledge these bonds due to digital fake realities that are preventing us to live and experience our own bodies and minds and see the sync we have with other people.

This actually makes a lot of sense.

However, even normal people should think for themselves, act in their best and own interest, be individual and so on. You can not call people who behave like this „sheep“.

Well yes, we need a clear hierarchy, you are perfectly right.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

........

Don't worry about Aldrick. He does have good intentions, but he is a clown. You will get used to him and see that he really means no harm.

He suppresses his emotions so badly until he is not able to suppress any more and then his emotions explode out of him. Then it is like some pressure has been relieved and he is a good happy person again for a while. This cycle of badly suppressing his emotions, then releasing them in an uncontrolled and bad way, has been going on with him for many years now. But he is a good man, and he does have good intentions.

 

[Wayofthegods]

... are you kidding me?

Well let's just look at the facts here. Some random person finds us back in Novemeber. Makes an account, puts up an Anime pic, almost like he knew people did that here. But whatever, joins a Satanic Nazi organization, a few months later follows around a username trying to prove we are all sheep.

Now you tell me. What am I suppose to think? You joined a Satanic Nazi group....to espouse that we are sheep? What's next? We are all Gods Children. Now maybe, someone who's been here for years, might be bored enough and deprogramned enough to randomly think this.

It is also funny to me, that the account you are teaming up with, has not been here a year either. There are many people that have been here well over a Decade. 15 years for me...

November just happened for me. It's funny that very rarely the old true usernames come up with such nonsense games. I could make a fake account right now, and 6 months would go by in a flash, and start some kinda Drama.

So why dont you sit back, and in 3 years, will see if you are even relevant. Then when you do something stupid or get banned, it took years to build up some kinda trust that you are even a person. But no, you want to tell us all how we will think. Just a few months in the door.

March 2020, you were not even here. Much less how about when the final RTR came out? Next you will tell me you have been here for years, but new name. Well one anyone can claim that and two, why? What happened to the old name you went by?

Even Don Danko played this game, and I thought I was crazy for thinking certain accounts were him. It's just so easy to see through anymore for everyone.

If you are new, then how about you sit back and try to learn something?

She is learning. But everyone from all walks of life can usually find something to teach as well. Tabby knows a lot about animals. She also knows a lot about sewing and seamstress work. And a wide variety of other topics too. Sometimes I'm surprised by the breadth of knowledge she has about different topics.

Why is relevance an important thing here? We're not trying to take over the forums or anything. If we have relevance right now it's because people are engaging with our topics, and we've made a name for ourselves.

If we got banned for any reason then I don't plan on making another account. I don't like to be where I'm not welcome or wanted. I would continue doing the RTR's because I have an interest in saving my race, my world, and all of humanity for that matter, and also because I'm loyal to Satan and I want to keep doing spiritual warfare for him as one of his warriors. I don't know what else I could possibly do with my life right now as a higher cause. This is where I belong, it's what I'm meant to do.

As a side note, we've learned so much about the Occult in the last 10 months or so since finding the JoS, that it's felt like much longer to us. So much has happened. We saw in real time the election playing out and confirming what the HP was saying sermon to sermon. We watched the vote get stolen on live television. We've had spiritual experiences which would shock the average person in society. Learning and feeling that everything is real, and that even something as seemingly outrageous as aliens are real... and that there's this whole wide universe out there waiting to be explored, and is teeming with other advanced life forms on other planets and galaxies - it's all breathtaking when I think about it. And realizing that what I once thought of as the cold, impersonal, indifferent universe thanks to mainstream scientists - the universe itself in a sense actually does love me and care about me, and supports my existence, all through Father as the face of it. I'm talking about the sermon by HPHC where he said that Father is like the face of the Aether, and without him then it really would be cold and indifferent like the scientists said.

^ If I'm off-base with what I said about Father, then I apologize. That's just how I came to think of it all after that sermon.

Oh so now you two know each other?

 

[Wayofthegods]

... are you kidding me?

Well let's just look at the facts here. Some random person finds us back in Novemeber. Makes an account, puts up an Anime pic, almost like he knew people did that here. But whatever, joins a Satanic Nazi organization, a few months later follows around a username trying to prove we are all sheep.

Now you tell me. What am I suppose to think? You joined a Satanic Nazi group....to espouse that we are sheep? What's next? We are all Gods Children. Now maybe, someone who's been here for years, might be bored enough and deprogramned enough to randomly think this.

It is also funny to me, that the account you are teaming up with, has not been here a year either. There are many people that have been here well over a Decade. 15 years for me...

November just happened for me. It's funny that very rarely the old true usernames come up with such nonsense games. I could make a fake account right now, and 6 months would go by in a flash, and start some kinda Drama.

So why dont you sit back, and in 3 years, will see if you are even relevant. Then when you do something stupid or get banned, it took years to build up some kinda trust that you are even a person. But no, you want to tell us all how we will think. Just a few months in the door.

March 2020, you were not even here. Much less how about when the final RTR came out? Next you will tell me you have been here for years, but new name. Well one anyone can claim that and two, why? What happened to the old name you went by?

Even Don Danko played this game, and I thought I was crazy for thinking certain accounts were him. It's just so easy to see through anymore for everyone.

If you are new, then how about you sit back and try to learn something?

*sighs* you really have a way of making people feel welcome and like family. If I have to give the High Priest a photo of myself and my natal chart just to get ones like you off my back and actually let me be myself around here then I will do so.

Firstly I’m not a dude. Secondly, I came to JoS in September/October 2020, and was too nervous to make an account until November. I was very brainwashed, in a lot of pain, and my social skills were and still are practically zero.

I follow jrvan around because I feel safe with him and I trust him. JoS may be an online forum, but to my mind it’s no different to walking into a room full of strangers and people I don’t know and have never spoken to. Being introverted and a lot of the time asocial, I stay with the ones I’m comfortable with until I can gain some personal confidence. But that really isn’t working out too well because I either get put down or told I don’t exist.

I never said anything about SS being sheep, or that they should be. Neither did jrvan. I was only very literally defending an animal that people commonly think of as dumb.

My first experience here socially was getting called an alternate account all because I didn’t understand what the hang ups were about with generalising men and women. That resulted in drama with SWG because he insulted my partner and I wanted to defend him since SWG didn’t know him or our situation at all. I was still carrying a shit tonne of trauma from people never letting me defend the ones I care about. I hate it when people look down at me and say “go sit over there and let the men work.” I hate being told to be useless and I hate feeling useless. Naturally that hate and trauma bled out into my comments and I lost control of my emotions.

I’m still learning to gain control because I can be explosive and violent whenever things get too much. I remember something HP Maxine said in an article that as you grow in advancement and increase your personal power, negative emotions directed at others can cause misfortune and harm to them. But not letting those emotions out is also bad for yourself too.

jrvan is much more comfortable being social than I am. So he talks more than I do. He also has more knowledge than I do. And when I feel up to it, I go through spouts of talking a lot and not talking at all. I don’t know how to convey my views without it appearing like I’m trying to shove it all down a persons throat, and thanks to HPHC I’m even aware that that’s how it seemed to others. I never intended to come across like that, and I spoke with my Demon last night and he told me ways I can better communicate without getting myself or others hurt over misunderstandings.

I don’t care if you don’t trust me or believe what I say. I don’t expect you too because how can you? I don’t know your face and you don’t know mine. I could spill my whole life here on JoS, and you would never believe me.

Regardless, I say this honestly under Father Satan, this is my one and only account I have ever created for JoS. I have not been here longer than September 2020. I dedicated with my name in blood to Satan and I do cleaning and AoP everyday. I try my best during RTR schedules, I’ve had a few speed wobbles, even crashed sometimes, but I still try.

All I have done for the past few months is “sit back” and learn and meditate. I have taken shit and been slandered at times, but here I am still trying. This entire comment section these last couple days have been nothing but me trying to learn and understand.

I’m not going to be sorry for thinking differently and being different and abnormal. I’m not going to lower my head just because you said so. I’m me, and if you hate that so be it. I will try my best to learn better social skills. I’m here for my people, and Satan. I’m here because I finally found a way to bring justice to those who harm animals, children, and nature, and heal myself from those who hurt me in the past.

At the end of the day this is all meaningless without you being able to see my face though, isn’t it? All anyone can do here is take a person for their word, maybe tap into their energies, and hope they’re not an enemy.

So nothing I say would be “proof” to you that I am a person, a human, someone who doesn’t deserve the treatment you have given me and jrvan today. But that’s not what matters to me.

It’s not you I have to prove myself to at the end of the day. Only Satan.

Hmmm. You twos connection is strange. That two new accounts just know everything about each other. This was written well...a little too well.

It's like it was meant for a tear jerk reaction, but no real emotion behind it. The best thing you can do, is just to wait till you have more time here. Being controversial is one thing, but drop the whole sheep thing. Theres a lot of back peddling, but at the end of the day, there was alot of talk about us calling ourselves sheep. Call yourself one.

Outside of that time will tell.

 

[tabby]

Well let's just look at the facts here. Some random person finds us back in Novemeber. Makes an account, puts up an Anime pic, almost like he knew people did that here. But whatever, joins a Satanic Nazi organization, a few months later follows around a username trying to prove we are all sheep.

Now you tell me. What am I suppose to think? You joined a Satanic Nazi group....to espouse that we are sheep? What's next? We are all Gods Children. Now maybe, someone who's been here for years, might be bored enough and deprogramned enough to randomly think this.

It is also funny to me, that the account you are teaming up with, has not been here a year either. There are many people that have been here well over a Decade. 15 years for me...

November just happened for me. It's funny that very rarely the old true usernames come up with such nonsense games. I could make a fake account right now, and 6 months would go by in a flash, and start some kinda Drama.

So why dont you sit back, and in 3 years, will see if you are even relevant. Then when you do something stupid or get banned, it took years to build up some kinda trust that you are even a person. But no, you want to tell us all how we will think. Just a few months in the door.

March 2020, you were not even here. Much less how about when the final RTR came out? Next you will tell me you have been here for years, but new name. Well one anyone can claim that and two, why? What happened to the old name you went by?

Even Don Danko played this game, and I thought I was crazy for thinking certain accounts were him. It's just so easy to see through anymore for everyone.

If you are new, then how about you sit back and try to learn something?

*sighs* you really have a way of making people feel welcome and like family. If I have to give the High Priest a photo of myself and my natal chart just to get ones like you off my back and actually let me be myself around here then I will do so.

Firstly I’m not a dude. Secondly, I came to JoS in September/October 2020, and was too nervous to make an account until November. I was very brainwashed, in a lot of pain, and my social skills were and still are practically zero.

I follow jrvan around because I feel safe with him and I trust him. JoS may be an online forum, but to my mind it’s no different to walking into a room full of strangers and people I don’t know and have never spoken to. Being introverted and a lot of the time asocial, I stay with the ones I’m comfortable with until I can gain some personal confidence. But that really isn’t working out too well because I either get put down or told I don’t exist.

I never said anything about SS being sheep, or that they should be. Neither did jrvan. I was only very literally defending an animal that people commonly think of as dumb.

My first experience here socially was getting called an alternate account all because I didn’t understand what the hang ups were about with generalising men and women. That resulted in drama with SWG because he insulted my partner and I wanted to defend him since SWG didn’t know him or our situation at all. I was still carrying a shit tonne of trauma from people never letting me defend the ones I care about. I hate it when people look down at me and say “go sit over there and let the men work.” I hate being told to be useless and I hate feeling useless. Naturally that hate and trauma bled out into my comments and I lost control of my emotions.

I’m still learning to gain control because I can be explosive and violent whenever things get too much. I remember something HP Maxine said in an article that as you grow in advancement and increase your personal power, negative emotions directed at others can cause misfortune and harm to them. But not letting those emotions out is also bad for yourself too.

jrvan is much more comfortable being social than I am. So he talks more than I do. He also has more knowledge than I do. And when I feel up to it, I go through spouts of talking a lot and not talking at all. I don’t know how to convey my views without it appearing like I’m trying to shove it all down a persons throat, and thanks to HPHC I’m even aware that that’s how it seemed to others. I never intended to come across like that, and I spoke with my Demon last night and he told me ways I can better communicate without getting myself or others hurt over misunderstandings.

I don’t care if you don’t trust me or believe what I say. I don’t expect you too because how can you? I don’t know your face and you don’t know mine. I could spill my whole life here on JoS, and you would never believe me.

Regardless, I say this honestly under Father Satan, this is my one and only account I have ever created for JoS. I have not been here longer than September 2020. I dedicated with my name in blood to Satan and I do cleaning and AoP everyday. I try my best during RTR schedules, I’ve had a few speed wobbles, even crashed sometimes, but I still try.

All I have done for the past few months is “sit back” and learn and meditate. I have taken shit and been slandered at times, but here I am still trying. This entire comment section these last couple days have been nothing but me trying to learn and understand.

I’m not going to be sorry for thinking differently and being different and abnormal. I’m not going to lower my head just because you said so. I’m me, and if you hate that so be it. I will try my best to learn better social skills. I’m here for my people, and Satan. I’m here because I finally found a way to bring justice to those who harm animals, children, and nature, and heal myself from those who hurt me in the past.

At the end of the day this is all meaningless without you being able to see my face though, isn’t it? All anyone can do here is take a person for their word, maybe tap into their energies, and hope they’re not an enemy.

So nothing I say would be “proof” to you that I am a person, a human, someone who doesn’t deserve the treatment you have given me and jrvan today. But that’s not what matters to me.

It’s not you I have to prove myself to at the end of the day. Only Satan.

Hmmm. You twos connection is strange. That two new accounts just know everything about each other. This was written well...a little too well.

It's like it was meant for a tear jerk reaction, but no real emotion behind it. The best thing you can do, is just to wait till you have more time here. Being controversial is one thing, but drop the whole sheep thing. Theres a lot of back peddling, but at the end of the day, there was alot of talk about us calling ourselves sheep. Call yourself one.

Outside of that time will tell.

1) He’s my partner so no shit.

2) If I wanted tears I would go to a funeral. This is JoS. I didn’t just magickally forget that overnight.

3) I don’t like you nor do I trust you. I think we can both agree we’re in the same boat on that, but you don’t see me attacking your place here regardless of your years and post count. Since when was that such a factor anyway? Whoever the kikeson guy was, he had how many posts and whatever insights and you found out he was a jew. So this has nothing to do with post count and how long someone has been with JoS.

4) You are the first to say in this thread that an SS should call themselves a sheep.

 

[Jrvan]

Well let's just look at the facts here. Some random person finds us back in Novemeber. Makes an account, puts up an Anime pic, almost like he knew people did that here. But whatever, joins a Satanic Nazi organization, a few months later follows around a username trying to prove we are all sheep.

Now you tell me. What am I suppose to think? You joined a Satanic Nazi group....to espouse that we are sheep? What's next? We are all Gods Children. Now maybe, someone who's been here for years, might be bored enough and deprogramned enough to randomly think this.

It is also funny to me, that the account you are teaming up with, has not been here a year either. There are many people that have been here well over a Decade. 15 years for me...

November just happened for me. It's funny that very rarely the old true usernames come up with such nonsense games. I could make a fake account right now, and 6 months would go by in a flash, and start some kinda Drama.

So why dont you sit back, and in 3 years, will see if you are even relevant. Then when you do something stupid or get banned, it took years to build up some kinda trust that you are even a person. But no, you want to tell us all how we will think. Just a few months in the door.

March 2020, you were not even here. Much less how about when the final RTR came out? Next you will tell me you have been here for years, but new name. Well one anyone can claim that and two, why? What happened to the old name you went by?

Even Don Danko played this game, and I thought I was crazy for thinking certain accounts were him. It's just so easy to see through anymore for everyone.

If you are new, then how about you sit back and try to learn something?

*sighs* you really have a way of making people feel welcome and like family. If I have to give the High Priest a photo of myself and my natal chart just to get ones like you off my back and actually let me be myself around here then I will do so.

Firstly I’m not a dude. Secondly, I came to JoS in September/October 2020, and was too nervous to make an account until November. I was very brainwashed, in a lot of pain, and my social skills were and still are practically zero.

I follow jrvan around because I feel safe with him and I trust him. JoS may be an online forum, but to my mind it’s no different to walking into a room full of strangers and people I don’t know and have never spoken to. Being introverted and a lot of the time asocial, I stay with the ones I’m comfortable with until I can gain some personal confidence. But that really isn’t working out too well because I either get put down or told I don’t exist.

I never said anything about SS being sheep, or that they should be. Neither did jrvan. I was only very literally defending an animal that people commonly think of as dumb.

My first experience here socially was getting called an alternate account all because I didn’t understand what the hang ups were about with generalising men and women. That resulted in drama with SWG because he insulted my partner and I wanted to defend him since SWG didn’t know him or our situation at all. I was still carrying a shit tonne of trauma from people never letting me defend the ones I care about. I hate it when people look down at me and say “go sit over there and let the men work.” I hate being told to be useless and I hate feeling useless. Naturally that hate and trauma bled out into my comments and I lost control of my emotions.

I’m still learning to gain control because I can be explosive and violent whenever things get too much. I remember something HP Maxine said in an article that as you grow in advancement and increase your personal power, negative emotions directed at others can cause misfortune and harm to them. But not letting those emotions out is also bad for yourself too.

jrvan is much more comfortable being social than I am. So he talks more than I do. He also has more knowledge than I do. And when I feel up to it, I go through spouts of talking a lot and not talking at all. I don’t know how to convey my views without it appearing like I’m trying to shove it all down a persons throat, and thanks to HPHC I’m even aware that that’s how it seemed to others. I never intended to come across like that, and I spoke with my Demon last night and he told me ways I can better communicate without getting myself or others hurt over misunderstandings.

I don’t care if you don’t trust me or believe what I say. I don’t expect you too because how can you? I don’t know your face and you don’t know mine. I could spill my whole life here on JoS, and you would never believe me.

Regardless, I say this honestly under Father Satan, this is my one and only account I have ever created for JoS. I have not been here longer than September 2020. I dedicated with my name in blood to Satan and I do cleaning and AoP everyday. I try my best during RTR schedules, I’ve had a few speed wobbles, even crashed sometimes, but I still try.

All I have done for the past few months is “sit back” and learn and meditate. I have taken shit and been slandered at times, but here I am still trying. This entire comment section these last couple days have been nothing but me trying to learn and understand.

I’m not going to be sorry for thinking differently and being different and abnormal. I’m not going to lower my head just because you said so. I’m me, and if you hate that so be it. I will try my best to learn better social skills. I’m here for my people, and Satan. I’m here because I finally found a way to bring justice to those who harm animals, children, and nature, and heal myself from those who hurt me in the past.

At the end of the day this is all meaningless without you being able to see my face though, isn’t it? All anyone can do here is take a person for their word, maybe tap into their energies, and hope they’re not an enemy.

So nothing I say would be “proof” to you that I am a person, a human, someone who doesn’t deserve the treatment you have given me and jrvan today. But that’s not what matters to me.

It’s not you I have to prove myself to at the end of the day. Only Satan.

Hmmm. You twos connection is strange. That two new accounts just know everything about each other. This was written well...a little too well.

It's like it was meant for a tear jerk reaction, but no real emotion behind it. The best thing you can do, is just to wait till you have more time here. Being controversial is one thing, but drop the whole sheep thing. Theres a lot of back peddling, but at the end of the day, there was alot of talk about us calling ourselves sheep. Call yourself one.

Outside of that time will tell.

Goodness gracious. We live together. Of course we know each other well.

You're not going for the greatest detective award, are you? I think you might be disappointed. Anyone with a bit of clarity and fresh eyes can see that we're not the same person. We have different energies, different vibes, different personalities. It's plain to see to any psychically sensitive person that Tabby is a female. Past accusations of me being a woman aside, I can assure you I am male. Anyone who isn't wearing their ultra skepticism helmet can see clearly that we aren't the same person. FUCK, I thought I was jewphobic! I really did. I was going crazy the past few months wondering how many people in society around me were jews. You've got issues dude. Even I'm not that bad.

I even shared relevant details of our natal charts early on as a gesture of goodwill since certain people were doubting us back then too. I didn't have to do that, and I knew how risky it was in principle. Apparently that means nothing to you either. You'll never be satisfied, but you don't have grounds to call our identities into question over your silly and empty theories about our alleged lack of emotion behind our words. You're nuts.

What backpeddling? How are we backpeddling? How is it backpeddling to explain our points which you misunderstood?

And how many fucking times do I have to tell you that I wasn't telling people to call themselves sheep? Did you even read my last messages to you addressing that? You lazy prick.

IN CASE YOU FUCKING MISSED IT!!!!!!

I also don't think it's a good idea to go around calling people sheep. Even if we thought of the term in a positive sense. Even if everyone in society tomorrow was suddenly okay with the term, and all of the negative connotations of the term were removed in peoples' minds... it would still be a bizarre and asinine thing to just randomly call someone a sheep, like just because. It would be weird. I can't imagine anyone with a sane mind would do such a thing. Metaphors have a time and place, I believe.

As an add on to what I said before: of course it's abusive for xian pastors to constantly refer to everyone as sheep every morning at gathering, and especially in a demeaning way like they do mean it. That's fucked up. It of course makes no sense to constantly refer to anyone as your animals like that. There's no justifiable reason for it, and it doesn't make sense under any context whatsoever, no matter how you try to fly it or justify it.

I highly doubt the ancients ever spoke to people like that in Pagan Temples, saying strange things like "Now gather 'round, my flock." What self-respecting person would ever go for that? Of course no one would accept it. It's strange, absurd, and can't be considered anything but abusive.

Nor did the Pharaohs constantly reaffirm to everyone around them like "You are my sheep. I am your shepherd." That would be crazy.

Go play bouncer to the jews somewhere else. It's not your fucking job.