Saturn Square

[Elite]

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I don't understand what you mean by it hasn't "worked for you". You should not expect any "fireworks" to happen the first time you clean your aura and so forth. This holds true especially for a beginner who may have a harder time generating and directing energy.

However, there are also plenty of ways for a beginner to test if these exercises work: Have you tried the chakra openings? Do double or triple the opening vibrations of what HPS Maxine has written; it will probably make the chakra very sore and sensitive. Impossible to deny it then.

The same goes for inhaling lots of an element. Inhale lot 10 big breaths of earth energy and you will feel like a rock for some amount of hours after. Yes, it will be probably unpleasant or weird, but if you are trying to prove the existence of energy work, then just do it.

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I can understand what you mean about mental curiosity and also having your head in the clouds. I have a decent amount of air and water, plus a weaker Saturn in my chart. So I love to think and dream and so forth, but one can only do this for so long before it becomes boring. I don't want to just read what others say about energy. I want to SEE the energy myself. I want to study everything firsthand.

And beyond that, I want all the siddhis and I want to interact with the Gods, and every other reward of this path. So it was not initially easy for me to sit and meditate, but I kept doing it until I became powerful enough to permanently gain more fire and earth characteristics. And no, it did not go perfectly or smoothly, but the point is just not giving up.

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No offense but I think you are expecting some crazy reaction to happen from the first meditation exercise. That is not the reality of it, and it is why HPHC makes posts about this path being an arduous one every month it seems. At the same time, the gains become exponential over time, so you will definitely get your rewards.

Before one can expect results with something like the Merkaba or other advanced exercise, they must first be proficient with the basics, including a trained mind and ability to apply/manipulate energy. If you just try it from the start, of course it will feel like nothing is happening. The same occurs if you try to push a boulder when you have never physically exercised.

Again, no offense, but I think you are seriously shooting yourself in the foot by giving up advancement. If I were you, I would give it another try, and ask the Gods to please help you understand what has been getting in your way. Otherwise, it would be a real shame to let this mental obstacle rob you of 20, 30, 40 or more years of advancement time.

Your words and tenacity are giving people motivation. Thanks for everything.

 

[darkmonkey666]

You can make your affirmation simple like "I am centered and grounded in reality" something like that.

Isn't this incorrect?

Yes, include your positive clause. I think Slyscorpion was just writing to you briefly. Some people can also intend the energy to be positive while they are programming it, even if they didn't actually write that down.

If anyone could tell that a working was negatively impacting him, it is probably Slyscorpion anyway. So I would trust his judgement with this sort of stuff.

Whether or not you make the affirmation past or present tense depends on the context of what you are trying to achieve. Also, affirmations are merely mental guides and don't have to be exact on grammar or whatever. It is more important that the affirmation makes sense in your head, allowing you to focus on what you are trying to do.

So you could imagine the end state, where the energy has [now] grounded you, or you could think of what the energy is actively doing, which is (present-tense) pushing your body towards a more grounded state, which would then inevitably result in being more grounded from the previous moment, as a result of the energy's actions.

In my mind this is intended as positive and the present that actually is a lot of it so it works. This is one that could be past but is more likely to mean the present and now. If you don't like affirmation try another.

 

[Power of Justice [JG]]

its too hard, I tried once and nothing happened

Listen here, instead of writing whole essays on why you cant meditate, why dont you spend that same time meditating instead?

You've been here for 20 years? I wish I could say that. 20 years ago i was learning how to walk. 20 years and you have nothing to show for it, why is that? Did you apply yourself, or did you half ass it because you didnt feel anything the first time?

When I started out I didnt feel anything either, but I realized that only I had the power to save myself, and no one in this universe would save me but myself.

Dont you want to break the accursed cycle of reincarnation? Having to relearn the basics every time, wasting away, stagnating?

I wake up every morning at 4:30 so I can meditate and do yoga before anyone in my household wakes up, it wasnt easy the first few times, it felt unnatural and I will admit the pit in my stomach felt so deep, I was afraid. No more. I WAKE UP EVERY MORNING AND IM HUNGRY, MY SOUL IS HUNGRY AND IT BEGS ME TO FEED IT. I wish I had the privacy to do RTRs or vibrations whenever I wanted to, I have to work around that.

I do all that because I know there is something more, because I dont want to ever reincarnate and have to spend another 20 years doing nothing again.

Get your shit together.

You dare call yourself a dedicated Satanist? Prove it. Every day of your life.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

Get your shit together.

You dare call yourself a dedicated Satanist? Prove it. Every day of your life.

Well said.

The person who doesn't meditate, is not dedicated to this cause.

Spiritual advancement is the primary goal of Satan and the Gods for us here on Earth, as it has been since they first arrived here, and it always will be.

Destroying the enemy is equally important, however this is only a temporary necessity due to their interference and toxic existence.

If one is truly dedicated, they live their lives like an SS and seek advancement above all else.

The one who doesn't meditate and makes no progress after decades, may as well be in the trash heap outside next to the failures who flaunt their imaginary dedication and only waste themselves on this path, waste their dedication to do nothing.

If one does the RTR's at least, it amounts to something. However, without meditation, ones contribution will be minimal.

100 RTR's from the fool who never advanced, is worth less than a single RTR from a dedicated, hard working SS that empowers their soul on the daily. Let alone 100 RTR's of the dedicated and empowered SS.

Those who never meditate cannot compare, and calling themselves dedicated is frankly a grave insult to us who work hard on this path, and to the Gods whom you ignore and disregard with such conduct.

 

[BlackOnyx8 [JG]]

This is not possible. Even the basic exercises awaken the soul. Even if you don't apply consistently you will definitely feel something. But as said above, to achieve actual goals you must start with the basics and stick with it every single day until you master it. Just like with anything in life.

You must be consistent and meditate every single day. And that is not random stuff you take from the site. There is an order. Start with the 40 day program from HP HC and do it exactly as it is there.
The only way this doesn't work is if you are not doing it properly simple as that, and even then, you would definitely at least feel something for good or for worse.

I really don't get it, why are you here in the first place then? You claim meditation may not be real, but you learn for the sake of learning, however, then all of this knowledge may not be real at all, on top of that you blaspheme Satan in claiming he may or may not be real either. Since you have been here for so long, then you know that historically speaking there is no possible way to deny the existence of Satan and the Gods and the ways they have helped humanity throughout the ages, and that is through spirituality. In contrast to the enemy religions or even the atheism you are passively promoting here, that serve only the jews and the degeneration of humanity as a whole. While also passively admitting you may be a troll. I don't know if this is the case or not, but either way you could change today. It is possible. Start now in this very moment.

If you are here in this group for other reasons other than trolling then you must have something that drives you , some lust for power, for elevation, for happiness, for becoming the best you can be in all of your potential, achieving spiritual and material goals. If that is true, then hold on to that. Shift your mindset today, right now. Grab your warrior mindset that brought you here all those years ago and never let it go. If you fail, learn why you failed, read on, meditate on it, practice self consciousness and awareness, be humble and learn from your mistakes. If you fall a million times, rise a million times, if that's what it takes. No one had it easy. And you'll be surprised to know that others have been through the same difficulties and managed to overcome. Possibly others who were experiencing a lot of suffering on top of that. No one ever said it would be easy. But it will be worth. Specially if you have such Saturnian influence then you should know that nothing in your life will come without HARD WORK. Don't take this lightly, and think it's some sort of allegory, it is actual hard work, possibly painful. Now you can be strong as Saturn and work to get those rewards that are your birthright or you can rot. There is no midterm. Not one that lasts anyway.

Holding on to the judeo-christian idea that maybe next life will be better, is also delusional. You should have known this after 20 years. Salvation comes now, not upon death. If you don't meditate and work on yourself, your next lives will be exponentially worse until your soul eventually dissipates into the aether.

If you allow yourself to be this weak you are only serving your enemy who is laughing at you, who claim to be so smart, yet you refuse to acknowledge your own power and your GOD who is SATAN.

 

[Deleted member 19274]

A strong Saturn keeps someone centered in reality a lot of the time. You can make your affirmation simple like "I am centered and grounded in reality" something like that. There really isn't any way to maximize the power of a square other than maybe being nit picky and looking up at Saturn hour on something like astro.com or the JOS astrology thing where Saturn is. 10th 7th or 11th house are good for it. 1st house or conjunct Ascendant or conjunct chart ruler would increase power or it being chart ruler/co ruler. But this is totally Virgo like no real need to do it.

why having Saturn in 10th, 7th or 11th house is good?

 

[darkmonkey666]

A strong Saturn keeps someone centered in reality a lot of the time. You can make your affirmation simple like "I am centered and grounded in reality" something like that. There really isn't any way to maximize the power of a square other than maybe being nit picky and looking up at Saturn hour on something like astro.com or the JOS astrology thing where Saturn is. 10th 7th or 11th house are good for it. 1st house or conjunct Ascendant or conjunct chart ruler would increase power or it being chart ruler/co ruler. But this is totally Virgo like no real need to do it.

why having Saturn in 10th, 7th or 11th house is good?

Cause this is its home and exaltation house. 10th and 11th home 7th Exaltation. Now note this isn't as powerful as home or exalt sign and probably won't take anything out of debility but it does make it easier for a weak planet to operate in a person's life.

Example Jupiter Virgo 4th 9th or 12th house while it's in debility the area of life it rules would be familiar to Jupiter and it can work better in the areas of life these houses rule and themes of these houses.

Another example: Sun Libra 5Th house or 1st house. Again won't take it out of debility but makes it eaiser for the planet to do the correct thing it likes this area of life and theme and general energies of this house.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I actually have one of these in my own chart. Mars Libra 8th house. While yeah debilitated it's in a place it likes this helps. On the other side if it's home or exalted it might even add more power too it. Saturn Aquarius 10th house it likes this a lot. It may add more power to a neutral sign and make it easier to work.

Example Saturn Gemini 11th house. It's in an area it likes so adds a little power to it and makes it easier for the planet to work in a way familiar to it.

 

[Viego]

100 RTR's from the fool who never advanced, is worth less than a single RTR from a dedicated, hard working SS that empowers their soul on the daily. Let alone 100 RTR's of the dedicated and empowered SS.

You are 100% right about this.

I've seen some other "SS" or who knows if they really were indeed or if they will ever be .
But I've seen people doing loads of RTR's and avoiding meditating. They've also doing it quick and wrong.
I've tried to push them to actually meditate and grow their power but nobody listen ,well happens. A fool is a fool.