Satan, Magic, Demons

[Rone]

Hello, continuing the dialogue about magic, you suggested that I try it myself. Well, what did I notice? Magic is consciousness. Every meditation is my mind and nothing more. If there are feelings after meditations, it is an inspired visualization state, and I don't see anything else in it. Unfortunately, even physical sensations are few. The maximum time you can really feel something is after meditating on the 6th chakra. So please tell me, how am I supposed to believe in something so incomprehensible? It's very difficult. I'm not a religious person and I don't want to be one. I'm not going to believe in Demons and Satan just because someone writes about it. You say you have the facts. Can you provide them? Thank you. All the best! Happy New Year!

 

[Rone]

Hello again. I have some huge doubts. To begin with, I'm not privy. I am not a Jew, I am not a religious fanatic of Lavey's Satanism and other delusional ideas. I'm guessing there's a Devil, I'm not sure what he's like. I'm not making an enemy of him or anyone else. I don't worship him. I don't want to be a Nazi, because the ideas of Nazism are alien to me, they are absolutely not interesting to me. You told me that you don't have to be a Nazi, but it all comes down to Nazism. In one article from the High Priestess, there is a phrase from Lilith where she says "We are Nazis." If it's not important, then why would the Gods put such emphasis on it? I will not accept this position, no matter who believes in it. My second main problem is: I'm not going to make an idol out of Satan. I don't want to make him the center of my life. I don't want to be like a Christian who owes something to someone. I want to develop. I have my own life, it seems to be a good one. And one more problem: I absolutely question everything. I don't fully believe in Satan, I don't believe in anything. Everything supernatural is too ambivalent. Everything can be refuted. Everything can be destroyed. This causes difficulties. Thank you for reading it. All the best. Sincerely, Ronе

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Hello, continuing the dialogue about magic, you suggested that I try it myself. Well, what did I notice? Magic is consciousness. Every meditation is my mind and nothing more. If there are feelings after meditations, it is an inspired visualization state, and I don't see anything else in it. Unfortunately, even physical sensations are few. The maximum time you can really feel something is after meditating on the 6th chakra. So please tell me, how am I supposed to believe in something so incomprehensible? It's very difficult. I'm not a religious person and I don't want to be one. I'm not going to believe in Demons and Satan just because someone writes about it. You say you have the facts. Can you provide them? Thank you. All the best! Happy New Year!

So what is wrong here? This sounds like an appropriate observation for someone who is new. You had even made the discovery of how to improve upon this, which is by working on your 6th chakra. You have already defined a path here, yet are also feeling it is incomprehensible.

Yes, some aspect of this can alter your world view, but at the same time, you proceed slowly and your soul transforms over time, which then supports or maintains your ability to integrate these ideas into your mind. Other people who profess strong experiences are either very experienced or very sensitive to energy; if you had just started, there is nothing wrong with operating with a more limited "inspired visualization" state, as this is still a connecting with the energy around you or in your soul.

Hello again. I have some huge doubts. To begin with, I'm not privy. I am not a Jew, I am not a religious fanatic of Lavey's Satanism and other delusional ideas. I'm guessing there's a Devil, I'm not sure what he's like. I'm not making an enemy of him or anyone else. I don't worship him. I don't want to be a Nazi, because the ideas of Nazism are alien to me, they are absolutely not interesting to me. You told me that you don't have to be a Nazi, but it all comes down to Nazism. In one article from the High Priestess, there is a phrase from Lilith where she says "We are Nazis." If it's not important, then why would the Gods put such emphasis on it? I will not accept this position, no matter who believes in it. My second main problem is: I'm not going to make an idol out of Satan. I don't want to make him the center of my life. I don't want to be like a Christian who owes something to someone. I want to develop. I have my own life, it seems to be a good one. And one more problem: I absolutely question everything. I don't fully believe in Satan, I don't believe in anything. Everything supernatural is too ambivalent. Everything can be refuted. Everything can be destroyed. This causes difficulties. Thank you for reading it. All the best. Sincerely, Ronе

There is an association with Satanism and Nazism because they had fought against the Jews, and also because they supported some tenets or ethics that we also align with. However, there is no need to identify or even think about that or them, or feel like you are forced to align, etc.

Free will is extremely important to us and the Gods, and this applies to both of your concerns about Satan and Lilith. This is because if you are tricked somehow into something, then this will cause resentment or feelings of betrayal, as well as a destruction of trust, which undermines the entire establishment of any order, whether Satanic or not. So if your desire is to proceed at your own pace and development, then this is no real concern here.

If you have concerns towards Satan himself, you can meditate on his sigil and mentally voice these concerns. Ask him to guide you to understand the answer to your questions. They already see and know your questions, and further, they see into your soul itself and what you desire, need, how you react or think, etc. If you give them and opportunity to answer and build a relationship with you, this will occur in a mutually beneficial way, and not one where you feel like you are at a loss somehow.

 

[Homer]

You told me that you don't have to be a Nazi, but it all comes down to Nazism. In one article from the High Priestess, there is a phrase from Lilith where she says "We are Nazis." If it's not important, then why would the Gods put such emphasis on it?

You are confusing 2 things: What the Gods ordain and what is required or not. The Gods support National Socialism and Hitler was a Satanist doing Satanic work and he was lied about and slandered by the jews, so you probably believe the jewish lies about him. This is all true. But it's also true that you don't have to be a National Socialist yourself. This isn't required as a new person, obviously.

Now if you grow spiritually and work with the Gods by yourself, you may change your view and turn towards National Socialism yourself after you learn the truth. You may do that, but it's not required for now. It's not required for anyone to believe anything they haven't experienced because this isn't about belief.

Unfortunately, even physical sensations are few. The maximum time you can really feel something is after meditating on the 6th chakra. So please tell me, how am I supposed to believe in something so incomprehensible?

I think you misunderstood that. Nobody said that you have to believe. It's about practice consistent practice. Magick is something that you practice, not something that you believe.

Not to put you down or something, but you really didn't expect to feel anything "supernatural" or "extraordinary" just in your first try, did you? This is like not having played the piano before and expecting to play Beethoven's Symphony No 5 perfectly in your first try and then get disappointed and say "well playing the piano doesn't work. I want to believe in playing the piano, but I can't".

The same is with anything spiritual. People don't expect to do these things in their first try, yet they somehow they expect to do extraordinary things in their first try. Everything takes time and practice, including spiritual things.

 

[Magmapoolsweet]

why not learning about Duaat in this world maybe in future can change u're perception and can believe Satan and Demons so you can't get confused or blindness.

 

[Rone]

So what is wrong here? This sounds like an appropriate observation for someone who is new. You had even made the discovery of how to improve upon this, which is by working on your 6th chakra. You have already defined a path here, yet are also feeling it is incomprehensible.

Yes, some aspect of this can alter your world view, but at the same time, you proceed slowly and your soul transforms over time, which then supports or maintains your ability to integrate these ideas into your mind. Other people who profess strong experiences are either very experienced or very sensitive to energy; if you had just started, there is nothing wrong with operating with a more limited "inspired visualization" state, as this is still a connecting with the energy around you or in your soul.



There is an association with Satanism and Nazism because they had fought against the Jews, and also because they supported some tenets or ethics that we also align with. However, there is no need to identify or even think about that or them, or feel like you are forced to align, etc.

Free will is extremely important to us and the Gods, and this applies to both of your concerns about Satan and Lilith. This is because if you are tricked somehow into something, then this will cause resentment or feelings of betrayal, as well as a destruction of trust, which undermines the entire establishment of any order, whether Satanic or not. So if your desire is to proceed at your own pace and development, then this is no real concern here.

If you have concerns towards Satan himself, you can meditate on his sigil and mentally voice these concerns. Ask him to guide you to understand the answer to your questions. They already see and know your questions, and further, they see into your soul itself and what you desire, need, how you react or think, etc. If you give them and opportunity to answer and build a relationship with you, this will occur in a mutually beneficial way, and not one where you feel like you are at a loss somehow.

It looks so strange. Do I have to sit and look at the symbol of Satan? Or what?

Thank