Romania referendum for heterosexual marriage

[EasternFireLion666]

Hello brothers and sisters. I need some advice on this matter.

There are two main political factions factions here.
1. A socialist party which is mostly conservative but with heavy ties to israel. They rarely invest in projects and always attempt all sorts of legislations to save them from jail. They make all sorts of salaries and pension rises that are artificial and based on credits.
2. A couple of liberal parties that are close to the EU and often advocate western multiculturalism.

This weekend the socialist party in power is organising a referendum to change the constitution and only allow heterosexual marriage. It was not possible anyway due to the civil code but this is much easier to be changed than the constitution.

The socialist fans want to vote YES while the anti socialists want to boicot it to invalidate it due to a lack of numbers.

What i know so far is that the referendum was a moneywashing method but the money spending of 40 plus million euros cannot be undone now. The ones that wanna vote Yes are mostly just xian fanatics. I do not have anything against homosexuals just agains lgbt because they exagerate in many areas and it s a marxist organisation. The liberals don t mind same sex marriage. Marriage is a stupid xian church formality anyway best idea would be to have social contracts for everyone.

I for one do not want the country to start liberalizing but also hate the socialist party considering who their allies are. What are your opinions? Does the boycot help the homosexuals in any way? Does voting YES help the society?

If any romanians have additional information it would help. I am uncertain about this vote.

 

[Luna Black]

Doesn't matter focus on important things.

 

[bloodyteo]

Hello brothers and sisters. I need some advice on this matter.

There are two main political factions factions here.
1. A socialist party which is mostly conservative but with heavy ties to israel. They rarely invest in projects and always attempt all sorts of legislations to save them from jail. They make all sorts of salaries and pension rises that are artificial and based on credits.
2. A couple of liberal parties that are close to the EU and often advocate western multiculturalism.

This weekend the socialist party in power is organising a referendum to change the constitution and only allow heterosexual marriage. It was not possible anyway due to the civil code but this is much easier to be changed than the constitution.

The socialist fans want to vote YES while the anti socialists want to boicot it to invalidate it due to a lack of numbers.

What i know so far is that the referendum was a moneywashing method but the money spending of 40 plus million euros cannot be undone now. The ones that wanna vote Yes are mostly just xian fanatics. I do not have anything against homosexuals just agains lgbt because they exagerate in many areas and it s a marxist organisation. The liberals don t mind same sex marriage. Marriage is a stupid xian church formality anyway best idea would be to have social contracts for everyone.

I for one do not want the country to start liberalizing but also hate the socialist party considering who their allies are. What are your opinions? Does the boycot help the homosexuals in any way? Does voting YES help the society?

If any romanians have additional information it would help. I am uncertain about this vote.

Do like me brother, just don't go to the stupid vote. I have read somewhere they need like 5.000.000 people to go to make the referendum eligible or something like that. So the best option is not to go.

Offtopic: What is your take on our orto-xians, they don't seem as bad as the catholics or other sects.

Hail Satan!

 

[EasternFireLion666]

Hello brothers and sisters. I need some advice on this matter.

There are two main political factions factions here.
1. A socialist party which is mostly conservative but with heavy ties to israel. They rarely invest in projects and always attempt all sorts of legislations to save them from jail. They make all sorts of salaries and pension rises that are artificial and based on credits.
2. A couple of liberal parties that are close to the EU and often advocate western multiculturalism.

This weekend the socialist party in power is organising a referendum to change the constitution and only allow heterosexual marriage. It was not possible anyway due to the civil code but this is much easier to be changed than the constitution.

The socialist fans want to vote YES while the anti socialists want to boicot it to invalidate it due to a lack of numbers.

What i know so far is that the referendum was a moneywashing method but the money spending of 40 plus million euros cannot be undone now. The ones that wanna vote Yes are mostly just xian fanatics. I do not have anything against homosexuals just agains lgbt because they exagerate in many areas and it s a marxist organisation. The liberals don t mind same sex marriage. Marriage is a stupid xian church formality anyway best idea would be to have social contracts for everyone.

I for one do not want the country to start liberalizing but also hate the socialist party considering who their allies are. What are your opinions? Does the boycot help the homosexuals in any way? Does voting YES help the society?

If any romanians have additional information it would help. I am uncertain about this vote.

Do like me brother, just don't go to the stupid vote. I have read somewhere they need like 5.000.000 people to go to make the referendum eligible or something like that. So the best option is not to go.

Offtopic: What is your take on our orto-xians, they don't seem as bad as the catholics or other sects.

Hail Satan!

Still xian so does not really matter i guess.
Also lots of corruption in the church. It was made for this purpose just like communism. I believe xianity will dissapear slowly from our country but i just hope it does not get replaced with cultural marxism. Right now we don t have a political faction that is at least moderate...

 

[Edelwise]

There's also the rumor that they intend to amend more than just the definition of marriage. The current legal form of addressing the populace through referendum does not include the relevant clauses on the ballot itself. So in essence, it's blind voting.

I do not know how real this rumor is. I tried looking over the Official Monitor, but the information is behind a paywall. Even so, the state corruption makes this tool questionable at best.

I personally find it absurd that you cannot read what you are voting for, but maybe that's why the Socialist government went forward with the referendum idea. I used to think it was just a populist trick to regain public support, but now I'm doubting everything.

 

[EasternFireLion666]

There's also the rumor that they intend to amend more than just the definition of marriage. The current legal form of addressing the populace through referendum does not include the relevant clauses on the ballot itself. So in essence, it's blind voting.

I do not know how real this rumor is. I tried looking over the Official Monitor, but the information is behind a paywall. Even so, the state corruption makes this tool questionable at best.

I personally find it absurd that you cannot read what you are voting for, but maybe that's why the Socialist government went forward with the referendum idea. I used to think it was just a populist trick to regain public support, but now I'm doubting everything.

It can be read. I did and the legislation seems just for the first paragraph.
I will show you:

Go to this link: http://www.monitoruloficial.ro/article--e-Monitor--339.html
Go to 18th sep on the calendar and select 798.

it's the new paragraph and the whole dossier with many other reports from NGOs and EU organs.

 

[bloodyteo]

There's also the rumor that they intend to amend more than just the definition of marriage. The current legal form of addressing the populace through referendum does not include the relevant clauses on the ballot itself. So in essence, it's blind voting.

I do not know how real this rumor is. I tried looking over the Official Monitor, but the information is behind a paywall. Even so, the state corruption makes this tool questionable at best.

I personally find it absurd that you cannot read what you are voting for, but maybe that's why the Socialist government went forward with the referendum idea. I used to think it was just a populist trick to regain public support, but now I'm doubting everything.

It can be read. I did and the legislation seems just for the first paragraph.
I will show you:

Go to this link: http://www.monitoruloficial.ro/article--e-Monitor--339.html
Go to 18th sep on the calendar and select 798.

it's the new paragraph and the whole dossier with many other reports from NGOs and EU organs.

Hmm, I have read the paragraphs that talk about the change and I understand now.

I am just curious from an SS point of view if gay marriages should be legal or not? Isn't the jew who want to create this multicultural lgbt movement in all of Western civilization so there will be more things that will differentiate people, and if let's say that it will not be approved and in the future the gays will be able to marry they will not be able to have children.

And if more and more are becoming gay and won't have children won't the populace of country become smaller and thus extinction, in which case the kikes won. Stupid goyim, kill yourselves. I am thinking plus all the hatred that will come from the xians or homophobs and more dividing of the country and the people.

Plus there are rumors that it would happen like in Sweden where Child Protection services if noted will come and take the children from a heterosexual married couple and it will give the children to a gay married couple.

Again, this all rumors, if a Swedish person knows more on this subject it would be highly appreciated to shed some light on this rumor, or any other person who lives in a country where gay marriages are legal and if they have heard of such sort of problem.

On the other side of coin, if gay marriages will be approved, couples would be able to adopt from the orphanage. Note: It is hard even for heterosexual couples to adopt and I think it will be much harder for gay couples to do that.

Anyway this is my 2 cents on the subject. As I stated above I won't be going to the vote, because I have other pressing matters like developing myself, doing RTR ( by the way this is my second RTR and it feels good to know I'm attacking the enemy :twisted: )

 

[EasternFireLion666]

There's also the rumor that they intend to amend more than just the definition of marriage. The current legal form of addressing the populace through referendum does not include the relevant clauses on the ballot itself. So in essence, it's blind voting.

I do not know how real this rumor is. I tried looking over the Official Monitor, but the information is behind a paywall. Even so, the state corruption makes this tool questionable at best.

I personally find it absurd that you cannot read what you are voting for, but maybe that's why the Socialist government went forward with the referendum idea. I used to think it was just a populist trick to regain public support, but now I'm doubting everything.

It can be read. I did and the legislation seems just for the first paragraph.
I will show you:

Go to this link: http://www.monitoruloficial.ro/article--e-Monitor--339.html
Go to 18th sep on the calendar and select 798.

it's the new paragraph and the whole dossier with many other reports from NGOs and EU organs.

Hmm, I have read the paragraphs that talk about the change and I understand now.

I am just curious from an SS point of view if gay marriages should be legal or not? Isn't the jew who want to create this multicultural lgbt movement in all of Western civilization so there will be more things that will differentiate people, and if let's say that it will not be approved and in the future the gays will be able to marry they will not be able to have children.

And if more and more are becoming gay and won't have children won't the populace of country become smaller and thus extinction, in which case the kikes won. Stupid goyim, kill yourselves. I am thinking plus all the hatred that will come from the xians or homophobs and more dividing of the country and the people.

Plus there are rumors that it would happen like in Sweden where Child Protection services if noted will come and take the children from a heterosexual married couple and it will give the children to a gay married couple.

Again, this all rumors, if a Swedish person knows more on this subject it would be highly appreciated to shed some light on this rumor, or any other person who lives in a country where gay marriages are legal and if they have heard of such sort of problem.

On the other side of coin, if gay marriages will be approved, couples would be able to adopt from the orphanage. Note: It is hard even for heterosexual couples to adopt and I think it will be much harder for gay couples to do that.

Anyway this is my 2 cents on the subject. As I stated above I won't be going to the vote, because I have other pressing matters like developing myself, doing RTR ( by the way this is my second RTR and it feels good to know I'm attacking the enemy :twisted: )

What you say are valid possibilities. If i vote it is for this reason tot because i am against homosexuals but against lgbt which only made them look bad unfortunately. Few saw the deception.

There is an even simpler reason. Logic! There is no logic for a homosexual couple to want marriage when this is a church formality which they reject. Why ask for a right from the one you fight against? What they should request is social or civil contracts with the state to give them inheritance rights.

 

[bloodyteo]

It can be read. I did and the legislation seems just for the first paragraph.
I will show you:

Go to this link: http://www.monitoruloficial.ro/article--e-Monitor--339.html
Go to 18th sep on the calendar and select 798.

it's the new paragraph and the whole dossier with many other reports from NGOs and EU organs.

Hmm, I have read the paragraphs that talk about the change and I understand now.

I am just curious from an SS point of view if gay marriages should be legal or not? Isn't the jew who want to create this multicultural lgbt movement in all of Western civilization so there will be more things that will differentiate people, and if let's say that it will not be approved and in the future the gays will be able to marry they will not be able to have children.

And if more and more are becoming gay and won't have children won't the populace of country become smaller and thus extinction, in which case the kikes won. Stupid goyim, kill yourselves. I am thinking plus all the hatred that will come from the xians or homophobs and more dividing of the country and the people.

Plus there are rumors that it would happen like in Sweden where Child Protection services if noted will come and take the children from a heterosexual married couple and it will give the children to a gay married couple.

Again, this all rumors, if a Swedish person knows more on this subject it would be highly appreciated to shed some light on this rumor, or any other person who lives in a country where gay marriages are legal and if they have heard of such sort of problem.

On the other side of coin, if gay marriages will be approved, couples would be able to adopt from the orphanage. Note: It is hard even for heterosexual couples to adopt and I think it will be much harder for gay couples to do that.

Anyway this is my 2 cents on the subject. As I stated above I won't be going to the vote, because I have other pressing matters like developing myself, doing RTR ( by the way this is my second RTR and it feels good to know I'm attacking the enemy :twisted: )

What you say are valid possibilities. If i vote it is for this reason tot because i am against homosexuals but against lgbt which only made them look bad unfortunately. Few saw the deception.

There is an even simpler reason. Logic! There is no logic for a homosexual couple to want marriage when this is a church formality which they reject. Why ask for a right from the one you fight against? What they should request is social or civil contracts with the state to give them inheritance rights.

Well of course the church won't approve and never marry a homosexual couple in the church. By this I mean the church formality. And I don't even think that these couples are really xian, if they were, they would be in contradiction with the church from the start.

Anyway, I think what the homosexuals want is that the social marriage to be valid so they can share taxes, be eligible for inheritance in case one of them dies and all other advantages of being formarly married and not in a social contract (parteneriat) or what that thing is called.

 

[darkmonkey666]

As a bisexual I am not sure I want marriage gay or straight depending on which way I go (I'm more attracted to the soul and depth of the person and intelligence and ability to go against the norm etc than superficial gender people from both can be materialistic and thus boring) I mean its mainly been in the church plus do I want the government to recognize or approve anything I do at least in it's current state. That's my opinion.