Retrograde Natal

[Anubis Rising]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

 

[GoldenxChild1]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

Saturn makes his return every 28-30 years, you feel it 2 years before. He slows your right down.

 

[Anubis Rising]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

Saturn makes his return every 28-30 years, you feel it 2 years before. He slows your right down.

Uhhh yeahhh. Mercury retro lol.
I said retro not return.

 

[darkmonkey666]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

You may be helped by the Saturn working (don't do it when it's retrograde) think about what Saturn does when transitting if a lot of problems then don't do the working but if more positive or little happens feel free to do the working it will possibly benifit you. Direct Saturn energy is by far better than Retrograde. I do tell people to be cautious but it will activate Saturn like you want. That is pretty much the only meditation we have on there that will activate Saturn like you want.

Just stop the working if things start to happen you don't want and be sure to cleanse.

https://joyofsatan.fandom.com/wiki/Saturn_Square

Also if there are any other planets in your chart that have squares that are retrograde do those squares too of course when the planet is direct and in a good place to start the working it says on the square where to start the working at.

This should help in these retrogrades. Outer planets you will just have to deal with though as there are no squares or safe mantas for them. I know some people have posted mantras for the outer planets before but I don't feel that it's safe. I had a lot of problems after trying the Neptune one. So I don't think these are safe. Wouldn't even want to know what pluto would do :lol: I luckily was scared to try it.

 

[Anubis Rising]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

You may be helped by the Saturn working (don't do it when it's retrograde) think about what Saturn does when transitting if a lot of problems then don't do the working but if more positive or little happens feel free to do the working it will possibly benifit you. Direct Saturn energy is by far better than Retrograde. I do tell people to be cautious but it will activate Saturn like you want. That is pretty much the only meditation we have on there that will activate Saturn like you want.

Just stop the working if things start to happen you don't want and be sure to cleanse.

https://joyofsatan.fandom.com/wiki/Saturn_Square

Also if there are any other planets in your chart that have squares that are retrograde do those squares too of course when the planet is direct and in a good place to start the working it says on the square where to start the working at.

This should help in these retrogrades. Outer planets you will just have to deal with though as there are no squares or safe mantas for them. I know some people have posted mantras for the outer planets before but I don't feel that it's safe. I had a lot of problems after trying the Neptune one. So I don't think these are safe. Wouldn't even want to know what pluto would do :lol: I luckily was scared to try it.

Hmm I dunno if I want to do that. But there has to be like a time it works for you. LikeHitlers venus was retro. But he became the greatest speaker ever.

 

[darkmonkey666]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

You may be helped by the Saturn working (don't do it when it's retrograde) think about what Saturn does when transitting if a lot of problems then don't do the working but if more positive or little happens feel free to do the working it will possibly benifit you. Direct Saturn energy is by far better than Retrograde. I do tell people to be cautious but it will activate Saturn like you want. That is pretty much the only meditation we have on there that will activate Saturn like you want.

Just stop the working if things start to happen you don't want and be sure to cleanse.

https://joyofsatan.fandom.com/wiki/Saturn_Square

Also if there are any other planets in your chart that have squares that are retrograde do those squares too of course when the planet is direct and in a good place to start the working it says on the square where to start the working at.

This should help in these retrogrades. Outer planets you will just have to deal with though as there are no squares or safe mantas for them. I know some people have posted mantras for the outer planets before but I don't feel that it's safe. I had a lot of problems after trying the Neptune one. So I don't think these are safe. Wouldn't even want to know what pluto would do :lol: I luckily was scared to try it.

Hmm I dunno if I want to do that. But there has to be like a time it works for you. LikeHitlers venus was retro. But he became the greatest speaker ever.

Venus really doesn't have anything to do with someone's speaking ability. That would be Mercury even if it rules his Ascendant. His venus is in Aries Conjunct his sun not in a bad place. That seems like it would create a pretty good speaking ability.

 

[Anubis Rising]

You may be helped by the Saturn working (don't do it when it's retrograde) think about what Saturn does when transitting if a lot of problems then don't do the working but if more positive or little happens feel free to do the working it will possibly benifit you. Direct Saturn energy is by far better than Retrograde. I do tell people to be cautious but it will activate Saturn like you want. That is pretty much the only meditation we have on there that will activate Saturn like you want.

Just stop the working if things start to happen you don't want and be sure to cleanse.

https://joyofsatan.fandom.com/wiki/Saturn_Square

Also if there are any other planets in your chart that have squares that are retrograde do those squares too of course when the planet is direct and in a good place to start the working it says on the square where to start the working at.

This should help in these retrogrades. Outer planets you will just have to deal with though as there are no squares or safe mantas for them. I know some people have posted mantras for the outer planets before but I don't feel that it's safe. I had a lot of problems after trying the Neptune one. So I don't think these are safe. Wouldn't even want to know what pluto would do :lol: I luckily was scared to try it.

Hmm I dunno if I want to do that. But there has to be like a time it works for you. LikeHitlers venus was retro. But he became the greatest speaker ever.

Venus really doesn't have anything to do with someone's speaking ability. That would be Mercury even if it rules his Ascendant. His venus is in Aries Conjunct his sun not in a bad place. That seems like it would create a pretty good speaking ability.

Sorry completely wrong. Venus, mars and mercury all have to do with speaking ability. Also hitler was Taurus sun and venus.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Hmm I dunno if I want to do that. But there has to be like a time it works for you. LikeHitlers venus was retro. But he became the greatest speaker ever.

Venus really doesn't have anything to do with someone's speaking ability. That would be Mercury even if it rules his Ascendant. His venus is in Aries Conjunct his sun not in a bad place. That seems like it would create a pretty good speaking ability.

Sorry completely wrong. Venus, mars and mercury all have to do with speaking ability. Also hitler was Taurus sun and venus.

His sun is Taurus I saw that I just said Mercury was in Aries Conjunct his sun not that his sun was in Aries I should have specified more. But venus is in Home sign despite being retrograde that would help a little. It is very likely he knew about workings to remove bad karma like the squares and even stuff we don't know about now as he was very advanced compared to most if not all people here. Anyways Mercury mainly rules speaking and writing it is stated on the page about it.

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/PlanetMercury.html

I would think a powerful venus and Mars would really help in this especially since his Mercury is in Aries so Mars could help a little. In Taurus venus and Mars it's likely he had a lot of creative ability and a deep mind for lack of a better word. He would have a good artistic imagination. Which he did do artwork so that makes sense.

Mars would not be that strong in this chart. Naturally here it should be quite weak Venus should weaken Mars and it's already in Debility in Taurus.

However he likely knew about the Squares or how to strengthen stuff. So it doesn't matter a lot to begin with. We need to learn for really advanced people they are not a slave to fate and planitary placements and the stars etc. He could really do whatever he wanted if he worked hard on it and practiced. He has a lot of talent and creative ability.

 

[13th_Wolf]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

Check your progressions and try and see which year your Saturn goes direct by progression. Before then with your Saturn returns at age 30, 60, 90 etc. You will still have some let up from the retrograde, but you can know by progressions when this will be proper. If the planet in question has gone direct in the progressions + had a return, that will more than likely indicate coming into ones own fully.

You may be helped by the Saturn working (don't do it when it's retrograde) think about what Saturn does when transitting if a lot of problems then don't do the working but if more positive or little happens feel free to do the working it will possibly benifit you. Direct Saturn energy is by far better than Retrograde. I do tell people to be cautious but it will activate Saturn like you want. That is pretty much the only meditation we have on there that will activate Saturn like you want.

Just stop the working if things start to happen you don't want and be sure to cleanse.

https://joyofsatan.fandom.com/wiki/Saturn_Square

Also if there are any other planets in your chart that have squares that are retrograde do those squares too of course when the planet is direct and in a good place to start the working it says on the square where to start the working at.

This should help in these retrogrades. Outer planets you will just have to deal with though as there are no squares or safe mantas for them. I know some people have posted mantras for the outer planets before but I don't feel that it's safe. I had a lot of problems after trying the Neptune one. So I don't think these are safe. Wouldn't even want to know what pluto would do :lol: I luckily was scared to try it.

Hmm I dunno if I want to do that. But there has to be like a time it works for you. LikeHitlers venus was retro. But he became the greatest speaker ever.

Venus really doesn't have anything to do with someone's speaking ability. That would be Mercury even if it rules his Ascendant. His venus is in Aries Conjunct his sun not in a bad place. That seems like it would create a pretty good speaking ability.

Mercury rules a lesser function of speech but Venus and Mars rule primary functions. Mercury is the logical portion whereas the other 2 seem to be moreso the vibration and power portion. Mars is Diaphragmatic and Venus is Laryngopharyngeal, in correspondence with the sacral and throat regions respectively, which are a chakra pair. Mercury has no such connection to any chakra pairs, only the neuter heart chakra.

Also Anubis Rising is right Hitler had Sun in 0' Taurus conjunct the star Mirach and Mars+Venus at 16' Taurus conjunct the star Almach. Venus rules his ascendant not Mercury, and its placed in the more benefic 7th house for it, and retrograde with that tight Mars conjunction, indicating personal strength. His CR Venus was retrograde and it gave him the late blooming effect, but the Mars acted to make His for a powerful voice working in tandem with His Mercury being in Aries.

We have to remember as well that Taurus is the sign of the Throat and neck area so this further reinforces the indications of strong voice by natural expression and articulation about life. The Venus and Mars add on top of the Taurus expression there if anything.

His progressed Venus went direct some point around the early 1920's coinciding with that important period of his life coming home from the war and fighting the Bavarian communists with the Freikorps, and working with the early NS organizations. This was when he was around 32-34 so near his first Saturn return, and when his political career was set in motion. At that point he became a political orator.
This progressed Venus, now direct, was also conjunct his anaretic 0' Taurus Sun which highlights the power of this fate set into motion.

 

[Taurus]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

Check your progressions and try and see which year your Saturn goes direct by progression. Before then with your Saturn returns at age 30, 60, 90 etc. You will still have some let up from the retrograde, but you can know by progressions when this will be proper. If the planet in question has gone direct in the progressions + had a return, that will more than likely indicate coming into ones own fully.

Hmm I dunno if I want to do that. But there has to be like a time it works for you. LikeHitlers venus was retro. But he became the greatest speaker ever.

Venus really doesn't have anything to do with someone's speaking ability. That would be Mercury even if it rules his Ascendant. His venus is in Aries Conjunct his sun not in a bad place. That seems like it would create a pretty good speaking ability.

Mercury rules a lesser function of speech but Venus and Mars rule primary functions. Mercury is the logical portion whereas the other 2 seem to be moreso the vibration and power portion. Mars is Diaphragmatic and Venus is Laryngopharyngeal, in correspondence with the sacral and throat regions respectively, which are a chakra pair. Mercury has no such connection to any chakra pairs, only the neuter heart chakra.

Also Anubis Rising is right Hitler had Sun in 0' Taurus conjunct the star Mirach and Mars+Venus at 16' Taurus conjunct the star Almach. Venus rules his ascendant not Mercury, and its placed in the more benefic 7th house for it, and retrograde with that tight Mars conjunction, indicating personal strength. His CR Venus was retrograde and it gave him the late blooming effect, but the Mars acted to make His for a powerful voice working in tandem with His Mercury being in Aries.

We have to remember as well that Taurus is the sign of the Throat and neck area so this further reinforces the indications of strong voice by natural expression and articulation about life. The Venus and Mars add on top of the Taurus expression there if anything.

His progressed Venus went direct some point around the early 1920's coinciding with that important period of his life coming home from the war and fighting the Bavarian communists with the Freikorps, and working with the early NS organizations. This was when he was around 32-34 so near his first Saturn return, and when his political career was set in motion. At that point he became a political orator.
This progressed Venus, now direct, was also conjunct his anaretic 0' Taurus Sun which highlights the power of this fate set into motion.

Hey Wolf, do you see anything in Hitlers chart that connects him to Spirituality or Satanism?

 

[13th_Wolf]

Hey Wolf, do you see anything in Hitlers chart that connects him to Spirituality or Satanism?

For spirituality, His Uranus placement in the 12th house is mostly isolated with only a single minor aspect and a opposition from the planet Mercury (which Uranus works with) on the wider side. This unaspected Uranus is also in the 2nd Decan of Libra which is the Aquarius decan and significant to naturalizing the functions of Uranus and making the expression of Uranus in the 12th house more straightforward and less blended with say, an irrelevant sign placement. It's stronger that way, to put it simply. Uranus being an Angular ruler (4th house) gives emphasis on the spiritual by this important ruler being in the spiritual 12th house there too. His Uranus along with His Mars/Venus conjunction also ties in to the fateful Lunar Nodes.

He also has a Pluto and Neptune conjunction in the 8th house, with Neptune on the anaretic 0 degree and Pluto in the special 4 degrees of Gemini which even alone is a Satanic indication. This on top of his ascendant being in 26 degrees Libra which is also a Satanic degree(206'), Saturn minor aspects this 26 degree AC-DC in a loose Quintile from 13 degrees of Leo (133')which is a further indication on top of that.
His Pluto at 4' of Gemini also aspects his IC-MC axis bang on in a sextile/trine format. This alone can indicate power and leadership careers, especially with Saturn also in the 10th house, but both Saturn and Pluto here being on Satanic degrees indicates this additionally along Satanic lines.

The thing with Almach and Mirach being important stars in his chart and both having the "ch" ending is synchronicity which is a general indication of power, spiritual for both instances here.

I think Venus and Uranus being Satan's planets are important indications also for judging whether one is of Satan. You would also look at the relevant houses (2nd/7th and 11th) and over presence of planets in their signs (Taurus/Libra and Aquarius) to judge this. Hitler had a strong 7th house emphasis with not just those planets being there in Taurus with the stars, but also for the fact that the MC and DC ruler are in there too. The 7th house being an Angular house also indicates strength of all the planets in there.

Not much is known about Lilith so I'm not sure if this counts the same as above but additionally, His Lilith being at 19 degrees of Gemini aspects Uranus dead on in a trine. The Lilith point supposedly has a gravitational pull which scientists are unsure where it comes from (perhaps something to do with Phaeton?) but that might be some bullshit I caught. That would suggest it is important. If its true, it would definitely be indicative of spiritual things in charts, generally speaking.

Anyway, thank you for asking me that Taurus! I hope people find this helpful for their self understanding.

Hail Hitler!

 

[Taurus]

Hey Wolf, do you see anything in Hitlers chart that connects him to Spirituality or Satanism?

For spirituality, His Uranus placement in the 12th house is mostly isolated with only a single minor aspect and a opposition from the planet Mercury (which Uranus works with) on the wider side. This unaspected Uranus is also in the 2nd Decan of Libra which is the Aquarius decan and significant to naturalizing the functions of Uranus and making the expression of Uranus in the 12th house more straightforward and less blended with say, an irrelevant sign placement. It's stronger that way, to put it simply. Uranus being an Angular ruler (4th house) gives emphasis on the spiritual by this important ruler being in the spiritual 12th house there too. His Uranus along with His Mars/Venus conjunction also ties in to the fateful Lunar Nodes.

He also has a Pluto and Neptune conjunction in the 8th house, with Neptune on the anaretic 0 degree and Pluto in the special 4 degrees of Gemini which even alone is a Satanic indication. This on top of his ascendant being in 26 degrees Libra which is also a Satanic degree(206'), Saturn minor aspects this 26 degree AC-DC in a loose Quintile from 13 degrees of Leo (133')which is a further indication on top of that.
His Pluto at 4' of Gemini also aspects his IC-MC axis bang on in a sextile/trine format. This alone can indicate power and leadership careers, especially with Saturn also in the 10th house, but both Saturn and Pluto here being on Satanic degrees indicates this additionally along Satanic lines.

The thing with Almach and Mirach being important stars in his chart and both having the "ch" ending is synchronicity which is a general indication of power, spiritual for both instances here.

I think Venus and Uranus being Satan's planets are important indications also for judging whether one is of Satan. You would also look at the relevant houses (2nd/7th and 11th) and over presence of planets in their signs (Taurus/Libra and Aquarius) to judge this. Hitler had a strong 7th house emphasis with not just those planets being there in Taurus with the stars, but also for the fact that the MC and DC ruler are in there too. The 7th house being an Angular house also indicates strength of all the planets in there.

Not much is known about Lilith so I'm not sure if this counts the same as above but additionally, His Lilith being at 19 degrees of Gemini aspects Uranus dead on in a trine. The Lilith point supposedly has a gravitational pull which scientists are unsure where it comes from (perhaps something to do with Phaeton?) but that might be some bullshit I caught. That would suggest it is important. If its true, it would definitely be indicative of spiritual things in charts, generally speaking.

Anyway, thank you for asking me that Taurus! I hope people find this helpful for their self understanding.

Hail Hitler!

wow thanks, your a real value here for astrology. i didnt know Venus or Uranus were indications for Satan.

 

[13th_Wolf]

Hey Wolf, do you see anything in Hitlers chart that connects him to Spirituality or Satanism?

For spirituality, His Uranus placement in the 12th house is mostly isolated with only a single minor aspect and a opposition from the planet Mercury (which Uranus works with) on the wider side. This unaspected Uranus is also in the 2nd Decan of Libra which is the Aquarius decan and significant to naturalizing the functions of Uranus and making the expression of Uranus in the 12th house more straightforward and less blended with say, an irrelevant sign placement. It's stronger that way, to put it simply. Uranus being an Angular ruler (4th house) gives emphasis on the spiritual by this important ruler being in the spiritual 12th house there too. His Uranus along with His Mars/Venus conjunction also ties in to the fateful Lunar Nodes.

He also has a Pluto and Neptune conjunction in the 8th house, with Neptune on the anaretic 0 degree and Pluto in the special 4 degrees of Gemini which even alone is a Satanic indication. This on top of his ascendant being in 26 degrees Libra which is also a Satanic degree(206'), Saturn minor aspects this 26 degree AC-DC in a loose Quintile from 13 degrees of Leo (133')which is a further indication on top of that.
His Pluto at 4' of Gemini also aspects his IC-MC axis bang on in a sextile/trine format. This alone can indicate power and leadership careers, especially with Saturn also in the 10th house, but both Saturn and Pluto here being on Satanic degrees indicates this additionally along Satanic lines.

The thing with Almach and Mirach being important stars in his chart and both having the "ch" ending is synchronicity which is a general indication of power, spiritual for both instances here.

I think Venus and Uranus being Satan's planets are important indications also for judging whether one is of Satan. You would also look at the relevant houses (2nd/7th and 11th) and over presence of planets in their signs (Taurus/Libra and Aquarius) to judge this. Hitler had a strong 7th house emphasis with not just those planets being there in Taurus with the stars, but also for the fact that the MC and DC ruler are in there too. The 7th house being an Angular house also indicates strength of all the planets in there.

Not much is known about Lilith so I'm not sure if this counts the same as above but additionally, His Lilith being at 19 degrees of Gemini aspects Uranus dead on in a trine. The Lilith point supposedly has a gravitational pull which scientists are unsure where it comes from (perhaps something to do with Phaeton?) but that might be some bullshit I caught. That would suggest it is important. If its true, it would definitely be indicative of spiritual things in charts, generally speaking.

Anyway, thank you for asking me that Taurus! I hope people find this helpful for their self understanding.

Hail Hitler!

wow thanks, your a real value here for astrology. i didnt know Venus or Uranus were indications for Satan.

Thank you, that means a lot to me. I spend a lot of time writing these things, sometimes I think I worry because no one responds usually, or challenging what I say.

When it comes to it I only put two and two together from Satan's page. If Venus and Uranus are Satan's planets then anything serious about them in a chart would mean that type of thing. Also he rules Capricorn and Aquarius too, so maybe you would also consider Saturn(which is Azazel's planet on his page)

When it comes to most things I'm asking the same questions as anyone would really, and probably should be more often than absolutely not at all or on the rare occasion. It'll take us forever to get anywhere if we don't.

Thank you Taurus, I'll keep on writing what I can.

Hail the Shining Ones!

 

[Taurus]

For spirituality, His Uranus placement in the 12th house is mostly isolated with only a single minor aspect and a opposition from the planet Mercury (which Uranus works with) on the wider side. This unaspected Uranus is also in the 2nd Decan of Libra which is the Aquarius decan and significant to naturalizing the functions of Uranus and making the expression of Uranus in the 12th house more straightforward and less blended with say, an irrelevant sign placement. It's stronger that way, to put it simply. Uranus being an Angular ruler (4th house) gives emphasis on the spiritual by this important ruler being in the spiritual 12th house there too. His Uranus along with His Mars/Venus conjunction also ties in to the fateful Lunar Nodes.

He also has a Pluto and Neptune conjunction in the 8th house, with Neptune on the anaretic 0 degree and Pluto in the special 4 degrees of Gemini which even alone is a Satanic indication. This on top of his ascendant being in 26 degrees Libra which is also a Satanic degree(206'), Saturn minor aspects this 26 degree AC-DC in a loose Quintile from 13 degrees of Leo (133')which is a further indication on top of that.
His Pluto at 4' of Gemini also aspects his IC-MC axis bang on in a sextile/trine format. This alone can indicate power and leadership careers, especially with Saturn also in the 10th house, but both Saturn and Pluto here being on Satanic degrees indicates this additionally along Satanic lines.

The thing with Almach and Mirach being important stars in his chart and both having the "ch" ending is synchronicity which is a general indication of power, spiritual for both instances here.

I think Venus and Uranus being Satan's planets are important indications also for judging whether one is of Satan. You would also look at the relevant houses (2nd/7th and 11th) and over presence of planets in their signs (Taurus/Libra and Aquarius) to judge this. Hitler had a strong 7th house emphasis with not just those planets being there in Taurus with the stars, but also for the fact that the MC and DC ruler are in there too. The 7th house being an Angular house also indicates strength of all the planets in there.

Not much is known about Lilith so I'm not sure if this counts the same as above but additionally, His Lilith being at 19 degrees of Gemini aspects Uranus dead on in a trine. The Lilith point supposedly has a gravitational pull which scientists are unsure where it comes from (perhaps something to do with Phaeton?) but that might be some bullshit I caught. That would suggest it is important. If its true, it would definitely be indicative of spiritual things in charts, generally speaking.

Anyway, thank you for asking me that Taurus! I hope people find this helpful for their self understanding.

Hail Hitler!

wow thanks, your a real value here for astrology. i didnt know Venus or Uranus were indications for Satan.

Thank you, that means a lot to me. I spend a lot of time writing these things, sometimes I think I worry because no one responds usually, or challenging what I say.

When it comes to it I only put two and two together from Satan's page. If Venus and Uranus are Satan's planets then anything serious about them in a chart would mean that type of thing. Also he rules Capricorn and Aquarius too, so maybe you would also consider Saturn(which is Azazel's planet on his page)

When it comes to most things I'm asking the same questions as anyone would really, and probably should be more often than absolutely not at all or on the rare occasion. It'll take us forever to get anywhere if we don't.

Thank you Taurus, I'll keep on writing what I can.

Hail the Shining Ones!

please do, i always read them and im sure all the many lurkers read them aswell.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

Check your progressions and try and see which year your Saturn goes direct by progression. Before then with your Saturn returns at age 30, 60, 90 etc. You will still have some let up from the retrograde, but you can know by progressions when this will be proper. If the planet in question has gone direct in the progressions + had a return, that will more than likely indicate coming into ones own fully.

Thank you for this 13th_wolf. I have a lot of retrogrades. I checked my progressions now I have two out of five retrogrades direct. I also checked when the rest of my planets will go direct. So thank you for this valuable info bro. You are a gem in this forums as you helped me understand my Neptune a bit too.

 

[Anubis Rising]

What age does a retrograde Saturn begin to work for you? How does this work? If you have 4 retros and one of them your ruler, when do you come into your own? 30? 35?

Will Saturn retro ever work for you? Or is it like you have no Saturn in your chart?

Check your progressions and try and see which year your Saturn goes direct by progression. Before then with your Saturn returns at age 30, 60, 90 etc. You will still have some let up from the retrograde, but you can know by progressions when this will be proper. If the planet in question has gone direct in the progressions + had a return, that will more than likely indicate coming into ones own fully.

Hmm I dunno if I want to do that. But there has to be like a time it works for you. LikeHitlers venus was retro. But he became the greatest speaker ever.

Venus really doesn't have anything to do with someone's speaking ability. That would be Mercury even if it rules his Ascendant. His venus is in Aries Conjunct his sun not in a bad place. That seems like it would create a pretty good speaking ability.

Mercury rules a lesser function of speech but Venus and Mars rule primary functions. Mercury is the logical portion whereas the other 2 seem to be moreso the vibration and power portion. Mars is Diaphragmatic and Venus is Laryngopharyngeal, in correspondence with the sacral and throat regions respectively, which are a chakra pair. Mercury has no such connection to any chakra pairs, only the neuter heart chakra.

Also Anubis Rising is right Hitler had Sun in 0' Taurus conjunct the star Mirach and Mars+Venus at 16' Taurus conjunct the star Almach. Venus rules his ascendant not Mercury, and its placed in the more benefic 7th house for it, and retrograde with that tight Mars conjunction, indicating personal strength. His CR Venus was retrograde and it gave him the late blooming effect, but the Mars acted to make His for a powerful voice working in tandem with His Mercury being in Aries.

We have to remember as well that Taurus is the sign of the Throat and neck area so this further reinforces the indications of strong voice by natural expression and articulation about life. The Venus and Mars add on top of the Taurus expression there if anything.

His progressed Venus went direct some point around the early 1920's coinciding with that important period of his life coming home from the war and fighting the Bavarian communists with the Freikorps, and working with the early NS organizations. This was when he was around 32-34 so near his first Saturn return, and when his political career was set in motion. At that point he became a political orator.
This progressed Venus, now direct, was also conjunct his anaretic 0' Taurus Sun which highlights the power of this fate set into motion.

So when I'm 60.....great.

 

[Sundara]

You may be helped by the Saturn working (don't do it when it's retrograde) think about what Saturn does when transitting if a lot of problems then don't do the working but if more positive or little happens feel free to do the working it will possibly benifit you. Direct Saturn energy is by far better than Retrograde. I do tell people to be cautious but it will activate Saturn like you want. That is pretty much the only meditation we have on there that will activate Saturn like you want.

Just stop the working if things start to happen you don't want and be sure to cleanse.

https://joyofsatan.fandom.com/wiki/Saturn_Square

Also if there are any other planets in your chart that have squares that are retrograde do those squares too of course when the planet is direct and in a good place to start the working it says on the square where to start the working at.

This should help in these retrogrades. Outer planets you will just have to deal with though as there are no squares or safe mantas for them. I know some people have posted mantras for the outer planets before but I don't feel that it's safe. I had a lot of problems after trying the Neptune one. So I don't think these are safe. Wouldn't even want to know what pluto would do :lol: I luckily was scared to try it.

Hmm I dunno if I want to do that. But there has to be like a time it works for you. LikeHitlers venus was retro. But he became the greatest speaker ever.

Venus really doesn't have anything to do with someone's speaking ability. That would be Mercury even if it rules his Ascendant. His venus is in Aries Conjunct his sun not in a bad place. That seems like it would create a pretty good speaking ability.

This may have something to do with fame and attracting a lot of attention. Venus conjunct sun.

 

[Kavya Shukra]

Hey Wolf, do you see anything in Hitlers chart that connects him to Spirituality or Satanism?

For spirituality, His Uranus placement in the 12th house is mostly isolated with only a single minor aspect and a opposition from the planet Mercury (which Uranus works with) on the wider side. This unaspected Uranus is also in the 2nd Decan of Libra which is the Aquarius decan and significant to naturalizing the functions of Uranus and making the expression of Uranus in the 12th house more straightforward and less blended with say, an irrelevant sign placement. It's stronger that way, to put it simply. Uranus being an Angular ruler (4th house) gives emphasis on the spiritual by this important ruler being in the spiritual 12th house there too. His Uranus along with His Mars/Venus conjunction also ties in to the fateful Lunar Nodes.

He also has a Pluto and Neptune conjunction in the 8th house, with Neptune on the anaretic 0 degree and Pluto in the special 4 degrees of Gemini which even alone is a Satanic indication. This on top of his ascendant being in 26 degrees Libra which is also a Satanic degree(206'), Saturn minor aspects this 26 degree AC-DC in a loose Quintile from 13 degrees of Leo (133')which is a further indication on top of that.
His Pluto at 4' of Gemini also aspects his IC-MC axis bang on in a sextile/trine format. This alone can indicate power and leadership careers, especially with Saturn also in the 10th house, but both Saturn and Pluto here being on Satanic degrees indicates this additionally along Satanic lines.

The thing with Almach and Mirach being important stars in his chart and both having the "ch" ending is synchronicity which is a general indication of power, spiritual for both instances here.

I think Venus and Uranus being Satan's planets are important indications also for judging whether one is of Satan. You would also look at the relevant houses (2nd/7th and 11th) and over presence of planets in their signs (Taurus/Libra and Aquarius) to judge this. Hitler had a strong 7th house emphasis with not just those planets being there in Taurus with the stars, but also for the fact that the MC and DC ruler are in there too. The 7th house being an Angular house also indicates strength of all the planets in there.

Not much is known about Lilith so I'm not sure if this counts the same as above but additionally, His Lilith being at 19 degrees of Gemini aspects Uranus dead on in a trine. The Lilith point supposedly has a gravitational pull which scientists are unsure where it comes from (perhaps something to do with Phaeton?) but that might be some bullshit I caught. That would suggest it is important. If its true, it would definitely be indicative of spiritual things in charts, generally speaking.

Anyway, thank you for asking me that Taurus! I hope people find this helpful for their self understanding.

Hail Hitler!

On the topic of Venus and Uranus and Houses being an indicator of one is of Satan or not, what would happen if both Venus and Uranus are in their home signs? For example, I have Uranus in 3rd and Venus in 11th houses. Tropical chart wise, those are the only ones that are in their home signs. And then my DC and AC rulers are in the 10th and 11th house.

 

[NinRick]

Check your progressions and try and see which year your Saturn goes direct by progression. Before then with your Saturn returns at age 30, 60, 90 etc. You will still have some let up from the retrograde, but you can know by progressions when this will be proper. If the planet in question has gone direct in the progressions + had a return, that will more than likely indicate coming into ones own fully.

From my own experience, I partially agree with you.

When one of my progressed planets went from retrograde to direct, it manifested the represented qualities of said planet in a good way, however, it didn’t affect the houses which are ruled by this planet.
(Just my observation, after you mentioned this, thank you btw I learned something new here.)

Wouldn’t this in turn also mean that, if a progressed planet goes retrograde, that this is affecting said planet in a bad/restricting way?