Questions about power

[Eli]

Hello,

It has been a while since I last asked a question. I am not sure if
anybody here can help me, but I will give you a brief run-down of my
situation.

If you don't remember, I wanted a bit of evidence before I dedicated. I
asked if I would be safe in summoning a Demon so I could ask my
questions directly; the answer came back that it was not a good idea to
summon without being dedicated, and instead I should do some
meditations, etc. I have been trying those, but with little result
(although I think I'm getting the hang of going into a trance finally).
But I am starting to think that it is not a lack of spiritual awareness
that is my problem here.

I am living with my Xian parents. My mom, especially, has been praying
for me and says she can feel a great negative energy around me. She says
she can see there is a battle, and much turmoil, inside and around me.
She is right. The last few weeks I have definitely felt a big change in
the energies around me, even though I have not summoned a Demon or
dedicated myself to Satan.

Now here's the first question. What gives my mom the ability to sense
the energies around me? Since she has this spiritual ability, it shows
me there must be some kind of power there. It's just that I experience
her energy as bad, and she experiences mine as bad.

My next question may present itself as thinly disguised impatience - and
I'll admit there is a bit of that involved. I am well-aware of the
spiritual battleground that is now my entire existence. I am tired of
the uncertainty and the tension. I do hate everything about Xianity, I
recognize it is full of lies and it's gotta be the most negative
influence ever to sully my life. I feel a strong kinship with Satanism
and I dream about the day I have power through Satan to take charge of
my own destiny without spiritual interference.

My problem is that I am so objective and un-biased in my search for
truth that I cannot put my trust in Satan without proof. My spiritual
sensitivity is not the issue - I know there is positive and negative
power all around me. I can feel them. Again, though, I am so un-biased
that I cannot identify which ones are positive and which ones are
negative! It's as if I am color-blinded. I would ask Satan for only a
small, paltry demonstration of his power. Would it be offensive to ask
him to give me a sign? I think that might be the only way I can have
knowledge. I want to see something happen - levitation, a piece of paper
burning, something! I want to ask Satan to prove his power to me so that
I can know what I am dedicating myself to. Surely he couldn't be
offended by my desire to be sincere in his service?

If this is a bad idea, is there a high priest or priestess that can
demonstrate their supernatural abilities? I'm asking somebody - whether
it is Satan himself or one of his children - to do what the Xians
cannot. My Xian parents believe a book that tells them they have the
power to eat poison and not die, walk through fires and not be burned,
etc etc etc. I don't believe in their book because they do not have that
power. But because I am un-biased, in my search for truth I hold
Satanism to the same standards. It is said on the JoS site that advanced
Satanists have telekinetic abilities and the ability to burn/freeze
objects.

I know Satan, his Demons, and his High Priests and Priestesses have
better things to do with their time than to indulge a skeptic's need for
proof. I'm very aware of that and that is why I am asking humbly for
this indulgence. I might add, though, that if I do get the proof I ask
for, I would be a great asset. And while I know Satan doesn't "need" me,
I think he would find me quite useful... I'd like to think of it as an
investment on your part to be patient with me and show me the proof I
ask for.

So what should I do? May I ask one of you High Priests/Priestesses to
demonstrate your power? Can/should I ask Satan directly?

Thanks for reading.

 

[Eli]

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[djrizt22]

You don't have to put trust in Satan without proof. Do meditate and spiritual workings for some months and you'll have the proof and psychic powers you need (those come from your personal spiritual development like meditation and yoga)!!Just try it on your own, you can do that before dedicating!!And you can even try to contact and ask that yourself when you are open and advanced enough.

Since Satanism is about independance, its definition also involves getting proof on your own through research and experimentation. This is the true scientific method to work with (google up scientific method). Seriously dude don't ask such things to waste other ppl's (and Satan's) energies just because you are lazy to try this on your own. If i remember correctly you asked about this some two or three weeks ago, and your results you had (change in energies e.t.c.) are great for that little time!!

There's a difference in what you said about the xians and their "miracles", in what an enemy entity puts a show to convince the sheep to have faith. However in Satanism there's no such thing, you try it on your own and ask the Demons on your own (after you're advanced) instead of being swayed of others actions.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Eli" <rjedars@... wrote:

Hello,

It has been a while since I last asked a question. I am not sure if
anybody here can help me, but I will give you a brief run-down of my
situation.

If you don't remember, I wanted a bit of evidence before I dedicated. I
asked if I would be safe in summoning a Demon so I could ask my
questions directly; the answer came back that it was not a good idea to
summon without being dedicated, and instead I should do some
meditations, etc. I have been trying those, but with little result
(although I think I'm getting the hang of going into a trance finally).
But I am starting to think that it is not a lack of spiritual awareness
that is my problem here.

I am living with my Xian parents. My mom, especially, has been praying
for me and says she can feel a great negative energy around me. She says
she can see there is a battle, and much turmoil, inside and around me.
She is right. The last few weeks I have definitely felt a big change in
the energies around me, even though I have not summoned a Demon or
dedicated myself to Satan.

Now here's the first question. What gives my mom the ability to sense
the energies around me? Since she has this spiritual ability, it shows
me there must be some kind of power there. It's just that I experience
her energy as bad, and she experiences mine as bad.

My next question may present itself as thinly disguised impatience - and
I'll admit there is a bit of that involved. I am well-aware of the
spiritual battleground that is now my entire existence. I am tired of
the uncertainty and the tension. I do hate everything about Xianity, I
recognize it is full of lies and it's gotta be the most negative
influence ever to sully my life. I feel a strong kinship with Satanism
and I dream about the day I have power through Satan to take charge of
my own destiny without spiritual interference.

My problem is that I am so objective and un-biased in my search for
truth that I cannot put my trust in Satan without proof. My spiritual
sensitivity is not the issue - I know there is positive and negative
power all around me. I can feel them. Again, though, I am so un-biased
that I cannot identify which ones are positive and which ones are
negative! It's as if I am color-blinded. I would ask Satan for only a
small, paltry demonstration of his power. Would it be offensive to ask
him to give me a sign? I think that might be the only way I can have
knowledge. I want to see something happen - levitation, a piece of paper
burning, something! I want to ask Satan to prove his power to me so that
I can know what I am dedicating myself to. Surely he couldn't be
offended by my desire to be sincere in his service?

If this is a bad idea, is there a high priest or priestess that can
demonstrate their supernatural abilities? I'm asking somebody - whether
it is Satan himself or one of his children - to do what the Xians
cannot. My Xian parents believe a book that tells them they have the
power to eat poison and not die, walk through fires and not be burned,
etc etc etc. I don't believe in their book because they do not have that
power. But because I am un-biased, in my search for truth I hold
Satanism to the same standards. It is said on the JoS site that advanced
Satanists have telekinetic abilities and the ability to burn/freeze
objects.

I know Satan, his Demons, and his High Priests and Priestesses have
better things to do with their time than to indulge a skeptic's need for
proof. I'm very aware of that and that is why I am asking humbly for
this indulgence. I might add, though, that if I do get the proof I ask
for, I would be a great asset. And while I know Satan doesn't "need" me,
I think he would find me quite useful... I'd like to think of it as an
investment on your part to be patient with me and show me the proof I
ask for.

So what should I do? May I ask one of you High Priests/Priestesses to
demonstrate your power? Can/should I ask Satan directly?

Thanks for reading.

 

[djrizt22]

The reason the same standards can't be applied to Satanism is because this isn't a faith do-nothing religion, but the things you acquire are the fruits of your own spiritual workings and efforts. Say, would you ask a advanced bodybuilder to have a car pass over him to see if he won't get hurt, in order to consider if you want to start doing workouts or bodybuilding? I would think its offensive to waste the bodybuilder's time for such petty thing. Its the same thing here, telekinesis and other things come from your practice, yoga, meditations e.t.c. and you can experience those on your own.

In xianity and other religions, about eating poisons and not dying e.t.c, they don't tell you how to do or experience those on your own but just its a matter of "faith", which is something abstract. Here you practice meditations or yoga and those things are the Siddhis mentioned in many yoga books, which are the results of spiritual workings. You don't even need to dedicate in order to do those things.

Satan mostly teaches us the TECHNIQUES to unlock those, he doesn't demand "faith" and gives them as free gifts, like I said they are our own workings. Like the bodybuilding example I mentioned. The difference here between doing those before you're dedicated and having Satan to guide you is learning on your own vs. having a teacher. Otherwise its the same, there are no free gifts.

You can find a lot of telekinesis videos of YOUTUBE though, if you doubt this thing exists.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Eli" <rjedars@... wrote:

Hello,

It has been a while since I last asked a question. I am not sure if
anybody here can help me, but I will give you a brief run-down of my
situation.

If you don't remember, I wanted a bit of evidence before I dedicated. I
asked if I would be safe in summoning a Demon so I could ask my
questions directly; the answer came back that it was not a good idea to
summon without being dedicated, and instead I should do some
meditations, etc. I have been trying those, but with little result
(although I think I'm getting the hang of going into a trance finally).
But I am starting to think that it is not a lack of spiritual awareness
that is my problem here.

I am living with my Xian parents. My mom, especially, has been praying
for me and says she can feel a great negative energy around me. She says
she can see there is a battle, and much turmoil, inside and around me.
She is right. The last few weeks I have definitely felt a big change in
the energies around me, even though I have not summoned a Demon or
dedicated myself to Satan.

Now here's the first question. What gives my mom the ability to sense
the energies around me? Since she has this spiritual ability, it shows
me there must be some kind of power there. It's just that I experience
her energy as bad, and she experiences mine as bad.

My next question may present itself as thinly disguised impatience - and
I'll admit there is a bit of that involved. I am well-aware of the
spiritual battleground that is now my entire existence. I am tired of
the uncertainty and the tension. I do hate everything about Xianity, I
recognize it is full of lies and it's gotta be the most negative
influence ever to sully my life. I feel a strong kinship with Satanism
and I dream about the day I have power through Satan to take charge of
my own destiny without spiritual interference.

My problem is that I am so objective and un-biased in my search for
truth that I cannot put my trust in Satan without proof. My spiritual
sensitivity is not the issue - I know there is positive and negative
power all around me. I can feel them. Again, though, I am so un-biased
that I cannot identify which ones are positive and which ones are
negative! It's as if I am color-blinded. I would ask Satan for only a
small, paltry demonstration of his power. Would it be offensive to ask
him to give me a sign? I think that might be the only way I can have
knowledge. I want to see something happen - levitation, a piece of paper
burning, something! I want to ask Satan to prove his power to me so that
I can know what I am dedicating myself to. Surely he couldn't be
offended by my desire to be sincere in his service?

If this is a bad idea, is there a high priest or priestess that can
demonstrate their supernatural abilities? I'm asking somebody - whether
it is Satan himself or one of his children - to do what the Xians
cannot. My Xian parents believe a book that tells them they have the
power to eat poison and not die, walk through fires and not be burned,
etc etc etc. I don't believe in their book because they do not have that
power. But because I am un-biased, in my search for truth I hold
Satanism to the same standards. It is said on the JoS site that advanced
Satanists have telekinetic abilities and the ability to burn/freeze
objects.

I know Satan, his Demons, and his High Priests and Priestesses have
better things to do with their time than to indulge a skeptic's need for
proof. I'm very aware of that and that is why I am asking humbly for
this indulgence. I might add, though, that if I do get the proof I ask
for, I would be a great asset. And while I know Satan doesn't "need" me,
I think he would find me quite useful... I'd like to think of it as an
investment on your part to be patient with me and show me the proof I
ask for.

So what should I do? May I ask one of you High Priests/Priestesses to
demonstrate your power? Can/should I ask Satan directly?

Thanks for reading.

 

[[email protected]]

Have no fear my friend, Father will be there when you're ready in yourself, the meditations are there to help you be ready to open up to him. They're hard to begin with but with time and patience you will succeed.
Your mother can sense "darkness" around you because After an intense study of the Xian text and its effects is the magick, yes magick, used in its original creation. its a nasty working of magick one that gives the compulsion there preachers radiate, and the reason for 2000 years of persecution, hidden within its weaves are discord and malice for those not effected by its spell, she sees darkness because it tells her too, she's merely a slave to its wishes.

HAIL SATAN!

XM

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Eli" <rjedars@... wrote:

Hello,

It has been a while since I last asked a question. I am not sure if
anybody here can help me, but I will give you a brief run-down of my
situation.

If you don't remember, I wanted a bit of evidence before I dedicated. I
asked if I would be safe in summoning a Demon so I could ask my
questions directly; the answer came back that it was not a good idea to
summon without being dedicated, and instead I should do some
meditations, etc. I have been trying those, but with little result
(although I think I'm getting the hang of going into a trance finally).
But I am starting to think that it is not a lack of spiritual awareness
that is my problem here.

I am living with my Xian parents. My mom, especially, has been praying
for me and says she can feel a great negative energy around me. She says
she can see there is a battle, and much turmoil, inside and around me.
She is right. The last few weeks I have definitely felt a big change in
the energies around me, even though I have not summoned a Demon or
dedicated myself to Satan.

Now here's the first question. What gives my mom the ability to sense
the energies around me? Since she has this spiritual ability, it shows
me there must be some kind of power there. It's just that I experience
her energy as bad, and she experiences mine as bad.

My next question may present itself as thinly disguised impatience - and
I'll admit there is a bit of that involved. I am well-aware of the
spiritual battleground that is now my entire existence. I am tired of
the uncertainty and the tension. I do hate everything about Xianity, I
recognize it is full of lies and it's gotta be the most negative
influence ever to sully my life. I feel a strong kinship with Satanism
and I dream about the day I have power through Satan to take charge of
my own destiny without spiritual interference.

My problem is that I am so objective and un-biased in my search for
truth that I cannot put my trust in Satan without proof. My spiritual
sensitivity is not the issue - I know there is positive and negative
power all around me. I can feel them. Again, though, I am so un-biased
that I cannot identify which ones are positive and which ones are
negative! It's as if I am color-blinded. I would ask Satan for only a
small, paltry demonstration of his power. Would it be offensive to ask
him to give me a sign? I think that might be the only way I can have
knowledge. I want to see something happen - levitation, a piece of paper
burning, something! I want to ask Satan to prove his power to me so that
I can know what I am dedicating myself to. Surely he couldn't be
offended by my desire to be sincere in his service?

If this is a bad idea, is there a high priest or priestess that can
demonstrate their supernatural abilities? I'm asking somebody - whether
it is Satan himself or one of his children - to do what the Xians
cannot. My Xian parents believe a book that tells them they have the
power to eat poison and not die, walk through fires and not be burned,
etc etc etc. I don't believe in their book because they do not have that
power. But because I am un-biased, in my search for truth I hold
Satanism to the same standards. It is said on the JoS site that advanced
Satanists have telekinetic abilities and the ability to burn/freeze
objects.

I know Satan, his Demons, and his High Priests and Priestesses have
better things to do with their time than to indulge a skeptic's need for
proof. I'm very aware of that and that is why I am asking humbly for
this indulgence. I might add, though, that if I do get the proof I ask
for, I would be a great asset. And while I know Satan doesn't "need" me,
I think he would find me quite useful... I'd like to think of it as an
investment on your part to be patient with me and show me the proof I
ask for.

So what should I do? May I ask one of you High Priests/Priestesses to
demonstrate your power? Can/should I ask Satan directly?

Thanks for reading.

 

[Eli A]

First, thank you djrizt22.

Second, can I get an answer from a high Priest/ess on this? Meaning no disrespect, of course; but if I'm denied my request I'd like it to be denied by a High Priest/ess.

Third, I am NOT requesting help out of laziness. I live in a household filled with Xian energy, which I oppose. I want to use Satan's energy to keep myself from being harmed by it, as it can be very oppressive... but I cannot do so without sincerity, and I cannot have sincerity without knowledge, and I cannot have knowledge without evidence.

Last night when I tried to meditate/practice going into the trance (still in days 1-7 of the Spiritual Warfare for Satanists program), I definitely felt a presence. It didn't feel malicious or friendly; just served to distract me from practicing the trance. My mom and I had had a conversation earlier in which she told me she is aware there is "bad energy" around me and she's praying as hard as she can against it.

The reason I'm asking for an act of generosity with your energy is that there is spiritual warfare in this house and I do not know what's true. Hence, I am stuck. I really feel I'm not asking too terribly much... with Satan's guidance I know I could make a huge impact on this world.

As far as the body-builder analogy, I don't view things that way. My analogy is that I'm meeting somebody online who says they are a body builder, but won't send me pictures of his muscles. See, everybody claims power but I've not met anybody who actually HAS it.

Anyway, like I said, there is spiritual warfare going on here and I think I want to join you guys in it. I'm just asking you to help me join, when it comes down to it.

I'll tell you what - whenever the next time is anybody summons a Demon, take just a moment to ask about me and if there is anything the Demon can do for me. I'm leaving a cup out on my table overnight... all I would want is to find it turned upside-down in the morning.

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[djrizt22]

Sorry i didn't see that before, but i have to reply:

"meaning no disrespect, of course; but if I'm denied my request I'd like it to be denied by a High Priest/ess."
--HPS aren't everything here, there are lots of knowledgeable people. There are no mediators in Satanism, its even in the site.

" I want to use Satan's energy to keep myself from being harmed by it, as it can be

very oppressive... "

--This is something you do on your own, magick or banishing ritual. Just by your wording here "i want to use..." its very offensive, since you don't seem to realize that they're Gods and you can't make demands, even to Satan who is the most busiest and high ranking of them all. Plus like I said Satanism is about independance, and if thats your reason for dedicating, then it seems its not for you.

"but I cannot do so without sincerity, and I cannot have sincerity without

knowledge, and I cannot have knowledge without evidence."

--I fail to see how those three relate with each other, and to having Him move random things for you. Like I said, you can simply open your astral senses and feel His energy or contact Him directly, and by the energy reading you get you can understand if someone is sincere or not. If even we assume that it isn't insulting what you're asking, why don't you just ask to cleanse the xian energy and you'll feel it gone therefore you'll have the "evidence" you need? Why ask random, more offensive things like moving cups which insult the God's intelligence (and waste more energy of them). Even if you have Him move random things it still doesn't prove the sincerity, just that He moved random things once. So what you're gonna do, have him do something else in order to be convinced that He can move random things, and then have him move random things? LOL.

Again, like I said, you need to have more respect, since they're Gods not toys to make demands, even more a more insulting demand in order to be convinced if to make a demand or not.

"The reason I'm asking for an act of generosity with your energy is that there is spiritual warfare
in this house and I do not know what's true.
--Again, how does knowing all that relates to have one of us move random things using telekinesis?

" As far as the body-builder analogy, I don't view things that way. My analogy is that I'm meeting somebody online who says they are a body builder, but won't send me pictures of his muscles. See, everybody claims power but I've not met anybody who actually HAS it."
--But the body builder also has a book that he gives for FREE, and tells everyone to try the methods inside the book and see if they work for them. He doesn't have the need to show any pics because its not important to show off for him, but instead have people TRY this ON THEIR OWN. See, he's not charging any money for it, nor does he force anyone to come to him, so he doesn't have the need to show his muscles. No one is forced to do anything, they can simply ignore him and live their lives or try the methods in his book.

"I'm just asking you to help me join, when it comes down to it."
--I'm gonna be an asshole I think now, but *AGAIN* WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH MOVING RANDOM THINGS??You're not even dedicated in the first place Dedicate first, and THEN consider joining the Spiritual Warfare.
--If you were genuinely interested in spiritual warfare, you would also not have weird expectations or make demands thinking of the Gods as toys or something. Please read Petra's testimony, its in a recent message, to see a person who is genuinely interested and got the proof she needs on her own without requesting weird things.


"I'll tell you what - whenever the next time is anybody summons a Demon, take just a moment to ask about me and if there is anything the Demon can do for me. I'm leaving a cup out on my table overnight... all I would want is to find it turned upside-down in the morning."
--HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!I laughed so hard when I read about this!!LOL. Actually, it is disrespectful to the Gods but its funny at the same time thinking that you would ask someone to ask a God to do petty things on someone who he doesn't know and hasn't even dedicated yet.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Eli A <rjedars@... wrote:

First, thank you djrizt22.

Second, can I get an answer from a high Priest/ess on this? Meaning no disrespect, of course; but if
I'm denied my request I'd like it to be denied by a High Priest/ess.

Third, I am NOT requesting help out of laziness. I live in a household filled with Xian energy,
which I oppose. I want to use Satan's energy to keep myself from being harmed by it, as it can be
very oppressive... but I cannot do so without sincerity, and I cannot have sincerity without
knowledge, and I cannot have knowledge without evidence.

Last night when I tried to meditate/practice going into the trance (still in days 1-7 of the
Spiritual Warfare for Satanists program), I definitely felt a presence. It didn't feel malicious or
friendly; just served to distract me from practicing the trance. My mom and I had had a conversation
earlier in which she told me she is aware there is "bad energy" around me and she's praying as hard
as she can against it.

The reason I'm asking for an act of generosity with your energy is that there is spiritual warfare
in this house and I do not know what's true. Hence, I am stuck. I really feel I'm not asking too
terribly much... with Satan's guidance I know I could make a huge impact on this world.

As far as the body-builder analogy, I don't view things that way. My analogy is that I'm meeting
somebody online who says they are a body builder, but won't send me pictures of his muscles. See,
everybody claims power but I've not met anybody who actually HAS it.

Anyway, like I said, there is spiritual warfare going on here and I think I want to join you guys in
it. I'm just asking you to help me join, when it comes down to it.

I'll tell you what - whenever the next time is anybody summons a Demon, take just a moment to ask
about me and if there is anything the Demon can do for me. I'm leaving a cup out on my table
overnight... all I would want is to find it turned upside-down in the morning.

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[Merr]

Some of my proof came from doing research on JoS. There were many little "coincidences" in my life that when I applied the knowledge I gained on JoS became much more than that. Meditation like the others have suggested I think will help you. Sometimes we look for signs on the outside for verification, but many signs are on the inside are proof too. I hope this helps.

 

[Eli A]

Thank you, Mary. I'll continue to explore and meditate.

And thanks for the reply, djrizt22. Of course I meant absolutely no disrespect toward you or the gods. This is why I spoke of my humility, ignorance, and sincerity; and it's why I asked for generosity. I'm pretty sure I didn't come across as an asshole. =/

Though I'm sure you won't help me, let me just explain myself on those points you said were so ridiculous.

My parents believe in the Buy-Bull. I find that book to be disgusting and downright evil sometimes... but I could forgive all that if it were TRUE. I, however, know it's not true. How do I know it's not? Because at the end of Mark, it says "and these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they case out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." My parents are "those that believe," and they can't do any of those things (including "casting out devils"... LOL!). What's happening? I wasn't the one that made a claim - the "good book" made the claim, and it turned out to be a big fat lie. Is it arrogant of me to want to see a claim substantiated?

With respect, again, I am approaching my search with the only tool I have at my disposal: my brain. Using my brain necessitates evidence. Therefore I am looking at a claim made by Satanists - the ability to use telekinesis - and asking for the claim to be substantiated. My parents tell me they can't show me because "it was only for the apostles," etc, etc... and you're telling me you WON'T show me because "it's a waste of Satan's energy." In the end, it all looks the same to me - a claim has been made, and nobody will substantiate that claim. That is not arrogance, no matter how disrespectful that sounds. I have absolutely NO interest in disrespecting Satan! I'm just a guy looking sincerely for the truth.

As far as the sincerity/knowledge/evidence thing, and dedicating, I'm talking about a catch-22. I can't dedicate if I don't mean it (sincerity); I can't be sincere unless I have a reason to be (knowledge); and I can't have knowledge without evidence. I found what I think is a great way to find the evidence. A claim has been made (you guys can move cups), and all I ask is simply to see that claim substantiated (move a cup). Doesn't that make sense? I don't see anything wrong with that...

But I guess I forgot Satanism is not an "evangelical" affair where Satan has any interest whatsoever in getting me to join his fold. I was thinking that Satan and his Demons want people to join them and would be overjoyed to "help along" a recruit. That was stupid of me to assume... I must have gotten that from my Xian days. =/

As far as proof by a feeling goes, it's not good enough for me. Sorry, but that's the same way Xians and Muslims become convinced. Being overcome with peace and security and feelings of power happen to people of all religions because it's what happens when you stimulate your right temporal lobe. If I "banish" the Xian energy in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I believe in it sincerely, I'll probably feel results - because peace is a by-product of faith. My physical senses, on the other hand, are as objective as I can get. A change in a feeling can be in your head or just due to faith; it's very subjective and not good proof for me. Seeing a cup flip over "on its own", on the other hand, is objective.

As far as this:

"I'm just asking you to help me join, when it comes down to it."
--I'm gonna be an asshole I think now, but *AGAIN* WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH MOVING RANDOM THINGS??You're not even dedicated in the first place Dedicate first, and THEN consider joining the Spiritual Warfare.

I think you misunderstand me. I'm already involved in "spiritual" warfare against religion, especially Xianity. I am constantly on a soap-box against it and what it does to society. And I'm starting to think that Satan is the true ruler... I'd just like to know that for sure before I dedicate myself to Him! Otherwise I'm just as blind as the Xian sheep I mock.

Is there NO physical evidence anyone is willing to give me? I feel like I'm trying to go to college - I'd do all the work on my own - but I don't have a car and nobody will give me a ride. I feel like I'm hanging on the edge of a cliff trying to get up to safety, but nobody on the top of the cliff will give me their hand and pull me up. Is Satanism that closed? I understand the purpose of it is independence and self-determination. I do rely on myself, and will continue to do so after I dedicate. But every now and then, everybody needs a hand. That's all I'm asking for.... just for somebody to help me join you guys. I want to, but I can't yet.

Well, that's all I have to say. I hope I didn't say anything else too terribly disrespectful. If I did, please know that's because I am ignorant - not because I am arrogant.

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[openstrife2]

You should always want proof, that is good as that is how we learn.

Telekinesis isn't just an ability of the advanced. We all have these abilities deep in our brain, they are just neglected from birth and so underdeveloped they are practically useless until we practices them lots.

Telekinesis on a PSI wheel was actually the first 'Psychic' Ability I was able to accomplish. EVERYONE has the ability to do them. At the time I was able to accomplish the Telekinesis on the psiwheel, I was a foolish xian who believed that Jehovah was the alien god the sumerians worship... I have seen through evidence that that is completely false and the bible is full of twisted fact that's been turned into bullshit.

Meaning you do not have to be a Satanist to accomplish these ability, though the advantage of being a satanist is that you can obtain help from demons when trying to accomplish certain psychic feats.

The site I used originally is http://psionix.forumcircle.com/index.php

The site is 100% unbiased in terms of religion, it is strictly based off scientific fact, almost all of which is mentioned also on the JoS site. I just found those other tutorials more clear.

Just fair warning, it originally took me 2-3 weeks of 1 hour aday practice to even get the PSI wheel to nudge a little bit, if you don't know what a PSI wheel is, it's a folded peice of paper balanced on a sharp object to allow for minimum friction, which makes it VERY easy to spin. Which is why you must be careful not to create air currents. It is very important you have 100% knowledge that you can move it. All thoughts are energy, and when the mind is worked out enough it becomes stronger and so do specific abilities.

--Also, a comment on your 'Freezing/Burning' thing.... That's a very highly skilled technique. It's very possible for beginners to learn how to manipulate energy in terms of changing it's temperature, but being able to freeze or burn something in an instant would probably take 20-30+ years of constant practice, unless you got extreme aid from a demon. When practicing these things, it's very key to keep perseverance...

Probably the most easiest method of PROVING to yourself that your mind can manipulate energy to your will is to create a PSI ball in your hand and feel it pushing your hands apart. I was able to do this within the first hour of practicing. There is guides on the http://psionix.forumcircle.com/index.php on how to do it and why it works.

Knowledge is key, and so is understanding. Remember the best teacher when it comes to mental abilities is yourself(or a demon if you have one helping you :S).

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Eli" <rjedars@... wrote:

Hello,

It has been a while since I last asked a question. I am not sure if
anybody here can help me, but I will give you a brief run-down of my
situation.

If you don't remember, I wanted a bit of evidence before I dedicated. I
asked if I would be safe in summoning a Demon so I could ask my
questions directly; the answer came back that it was not a good idea to
summon without being dedicated, and instead I should do some
meditations, etc. I have been trying those, but with little result
(although I think I'm getting the hang of going into a trance finally).
But I am starting to think that it is not a lack of spiritual awareness
that is my problem here.

I am living with my Xian parents. My mom, especially, has been praying
for me and says she can feel a great negative energy around me. She says
she can see there is a battle, and much turmoil, inside and around me.
She is right. The last few weeks I have definitely felt a big change in
the energies around me, even though I have not summoned a Demon or
dedicated myself to Satan.

Now here's the first question. What gives my mom the ability to sense
the energies around me? Since she has this spiritual ability, it shows
me there must be some kind of power there. It's just that I experience
her energy as bad, and she experiences mine as bad.

My next question may present itself as thinly disguised impatience - and
I'll admit there is a bit of that involved. I am well-aware of the
spiritual battleground that is now my entire existence. I am tired of
the uncertainty and the tension. I do hate everything about Xianity, I
recognize it is full of lies and it's gotta be the most negative
influence ever to sully my life. I feel a strong kinship with Satanism
and I dream about the day I have power through Satan to take charge of
my own destiny without spiritual interference.

My problem is that I am so objective and un-biased in my search for
truth that I cannot put my trust in Satan without proof. My spiritual
sensitivity is not the issue - I know there is positive and negative
power all around me. I can feel them. Again, though, I am so un-biased
that I cannot identify which ones are positive and which ones are
negative! It's as if I am color-blinded. I would ask Satan for only a
small, paltry demonstration of his power. Would it be offensive to ask
him to give me a sign? I think that might be the only way I can have
knowledge. I want to see something happen - levitation, a piece of paper
burning, something! I want to ask Satan to prove his power to me so that
I can know what I am dedicating myself to. Surely he couldn't be
offended by my desire to be sincere in his service?

If this is a bad idea, is there a high priest or priestess that can
demonstrate their supernatural abilities? I'm asking somebody - whether
it is Satan himself or one of his children - to do what the Xians
cannot. My Xian parents believe a book that tells them they have the
power to eat poison and not die, walk through fires and not be burned,
etc etc etc. I don't believe in their book because they do not have that
power. But because I am un-biased, in my search for truth I hold
Satanism to the same standards. It is said on the JoS site that advanced
Satanists have telekinetic abilities and the ability to burn/freeze
objects.

I know Satan, his Demons, and his High Priests and Priestesses have
better things to do with their time than to indulge a skeptic's need for
proof. I'm very aware of that and that is why I am asking humbly for
this indulgence. I might add, though, that if I do get the proof I ask
for, I would be a great asset. And while I know Satan doesn't "need" me,
I think he would find me quite useful... I'd like to think of it as an
investment on your part to be patient with me and show me the proof I
ask for.

So what should I do? May I ask one of you High Priests/Priestesses to
demonstrate your power? Can/should I ask Satan directly?

Thanks for reading.

 

[Eli A]

OMG... I just tried the PSI wheel... at first I realized I was moving it only because I was creating air currents by trying too vigorously. Then I slowed down and lifted my hands together, feeling the energy between them, and it worked. I can get the paper to budge. No spinning yet, but definitely feel the energy.

Excellent. The Xians say that telekinesis comes only from Satan, that those types of power are unnatural. I just did so on my own. This definitely changes how I'll search for truth!

Thanks for your patience, everybody! I'm feeling terrific! Soon I'll be able to stop asking stupid questions. =)

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You don't have to summon a demon to get some interaction you know. You could actually just sit in front of a candle, meditate for a few minutes and ask Satan to reveal himself to you. A friend of mine who was interested in Satanism took my advice on that, I was really surprised because Satan actually did reveal himself to him. Not that I don't trust Father, or think he would not reveal himself to him..It was just that, my friend was kind of a dumbass and I was surprised at the speed and clarity of the "sign" he received from the gods. Certainly Satan doesn't need any of us, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want us

HAIL SATAN, FUCK GOD

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Eli" <rjedars@... wrote:

Hello,

It has been a while since I last asked a question. I am not sure if
anybody here can help me, but I will give you a brief run-down of my
situation.

If you don't remember, I wanted a bit of evidence before I dedicated. I
asked if I would be safe in summoning a Demon so I could ask my
questions directly; the answer came back that it was not a good idea to
summon without being dedicated, and instead I should do some
meditations, etc. I have been trying those, but with little result
(although I think I'm getting the hang of going into a trance finally).
But I am starting to think that it is not a lack of spiritual awareness
that is my problem here.

I am living with my Xian parents. My mom, especially, has been praying
for me and says she can feel a great negative energy around me. She says
she can see there is a battle, and much turmoil, inside and around me.
She is right. The last few weeks I have definitely felt a big change in
the energies around me, even though I have not summoned a Demon or
dedicated myself to Satan.

Now here's the first question. What gives my mom the ability to sense
the energies around me? Since she has this spiritual ability, it shows
me there must be some kind of power there. It's just that I experience
her energy as bad, and she experiences mine as bad.

My next question may present itself as thinly disguised impatience - and
I'll admit there is a bit of that involved. I am well-aware of the
spiritual battleground that is now my entire existence. I am tired of
the uncertainty and the tension. I do hate everything about Xianity, I
recognize it is full of lies and it's gotta be the most negative
influence ever to sully my life. I feel a strong kinship with Satanism
and I dream about the day I have power through Satan to take charge of
my own destiny without spiritual interference.

My problem is that I am so objective and un-biased in my search for
truth that I cannot put my trust in Satan without proof. My spiritual
sensitivity is not the issue - I know there is positive and negative
power all around me. I can feel them. Again, though, I am so un-biased
that I cannot identify which ones are positive and which ones are
negative! It's as if I am color-blinded. I would ask Satan for only a
small, paltry demonstration of his power. Would it be offensive to ask
him to give me a sign? I think that might be the only way I can have
knowledge. I want to see something happen - levitation, a piece of paper
burning, something! I want to ask Satan to prove his power to me so that
I can know what I am dedicating myself to. Surely he couldn't be
offended by my desire to be sincere in his service?

If this is a bad idea, is there a high priest or priestess that can
demonstrate their supernatural abilities? I'm asking somebody - whether
it is Satan himself or one of his children - to do what the Xians
cannot. My Xian parents believe a book that tells them they have the
power to eat poison and not die, walk through fires and not be burned,
etc etc etc. I don't believe in their book because they do not have that
power. But because I am un-biased, in my search for truth I hold
Satanism to the same standards. It is said on the JoS site that advanced
Satanists have telekinetic abilities and the ability to burn/freeze
objects.

I know Satan, his Demons, and his High Priests and Priestesses have
better things to do with their time than to indulge a skeptic's need for
proof. I'm very aware of that and that is why I am asking humbly for
this indulgence. I might add, though, that if I do get the proof I ask
for, I would be a great asset. And while I know Satan doesn't "need" me,
I think he would find me quite useful... I'd like to think of it as an
investment on your part to be patient with me and show me the proof I
ask for.

So what should I do? May I ask one of you High Priests/Priestesses to
demonstrate your power? Can/should I ask Satan directly?

Thanks for reading.