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if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@... wrote:
if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
It's probably the source, and you know what?
I think the source is the universe itself. I think the cosmos is sentient. I also think that our beloved earth and other planets are also sentient up to some point. Probably there was this BIG BANG, and there it was - the universe.
 
Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@... wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
 
The concept of a god creating everything is 1)JEWISH/XIAN 2)STOLEN FROM SATANIC ALCHEMICAL CONCEPTS 3)IMPOSSIBLE. If sb created the universe then this entity MUST have been created from something else so the whole creation thing is impossible. Besides that, an extraterrestrial being can't create something a lot higher than himself nor a spiritual being can create something material. And Enki used genetic engineering which is a perfect scientifically explainable and provable method, not some ambiguous tricks in which xians say their "god" created the universe. Which makes Satanism a scientific and rational religion and leaves stupid xian-style creationism out.

My take on this, the universe ALWAYS existed. I will continue to believe that until a scientific theory comes about the creation of the universe that is proved to be true. But like I said, one thing is for sure. AN ENTITY *DIDN'T* CREATE THE WORLD.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@... wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
 
To ask "Who created the universe" implies that there is some being capable of such a task. But then you must ask, who created that being? And that one? It's a cycle that doesn't have an answer. But if you can believe that the universe is creatable, why not believe that it created itself? I don't know what Enki has to say about this, but I do believe that it's most likely that the universe exists, the universe destroys itself, and the universe creates itself, forever.

I'm sort of paraphrasing/adding to some quote I heard once but I can't remember it or who said it...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@... wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
 
I think you have to go through THE LOST BOOK OF ENKI..It has all the details of father enki and how cosmos created?



HAIL SATAN
HAIL ENKI
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@... wrote:
Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "acid312" <acid312@... wrote:
The concept of a god creating everything is 1)JEWISH/XIAN 2)STOLEN FROM SATANIC ALCHEMICAL CONCEPTS 3)IMPOSSIBLE. If sb created the universe then this entity MUST have been created from something else so the whole creation thing is impossible. Besides that, an extraterrestrial being can't create something a lot higher than himself nor a spiritual being can create something material. And Enki used genetic engineering which is a perfect scientifically explainable and provable method, not some ambiguous tricks in which xians say their "god" created the universe. Which makes Satanism a scientific and rational religion and leaves stupid xian-style creationism out.

My take on this, the universe ALWAYS existed. I will continue to believe that until a scientific theory comes about the creation of the universe that is proved to be true. But like I said, one thing is for sure. AN ENTITY *DIDN'T* CREATE THE WORLD.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
awww come on even science can prove this universe has a age calculable by a number it is has not always been around for all eternity
 
I think the universe has always been here I like this idea but if i'm wrong feel free to correct me.
I don't think there is a creator of the universe I think the creator is the universe.
The Native Americans talked of the great spirit that is everything that exists.



 
The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
 
No ,god. created universe. theres a new theory called multiverse theory where there more universes that this one (not talking about astral realm). theres 4 large universes and the universe is like a bubble. in the 2 multiverse is where universes are created from nothing. How? we dont know because other multi or universes have diffrrent laws of physics. but the amout of universe are infiniate meaning there can even be a universe that is an exact copy of our universe. scientist are expermenting right now with unstable atoms to try to get the chance of dark matter (I dont remember what the experment exactly is but theyre trying to get something.). they also say the universe can be created by other universes as well. they theories our universe is a break off of another universe.

theres just so much more i could get into but point is, it doesnt matter who or what a real god is. what matters is if a god exists (enki) the universe will go on without them. the multiverses are independant.

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------Original Message------
From: acid312 <acid312@...
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 04:55 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be

The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "dr_coatlicue" <dasune_sensei@... wrote:
To ask "Who created the universe" implies that there is some being capable of such a task. But then you must ask, who created that being? And that one? It's a cycle that doesn't have an answer. But if you can believe that the universe is creatable, why not believe that it created itself? I don't know what Enki has to say about this, but I do believe that it's most likely that the universe exists, the universe destroys itself, and the universe creates itself, forever.

I'm sort of paraphrasing/adding to some quote I heard once but I can't remember it or who said it...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
ok so maybe i should have not asked who started it all but what started it all

the universe may go on and on forever

but science has proven it had a birth

they also think it can have a death some date far into the future

im not worried about the death date

i want to know how the creation of this universe really occured

wether or not its infinite it had a birth or creation point

i have read up on certain theorys

it could have been just like the classic big bang theory
or a white hole from another universe
or spawned from another parent universe

the gods all had physical bodies in this universe right

if they did then what was it all like before this universe or the world they came from existed

what was before the gods of old
or at least before the bodies of the gods of old

btw id enjoy personally thanking azazel some time

i finally realized he is a major reason why some of the info (if not most or all of it) on jos is so detailed

its about time some smart powerful spirit went to a human and got that human to post alot of occult info in one spot for all to see

i still a jos noob btw

about how long has this site existed (i am beginning to wonder if it was around when i was younger)

hail enki restorer of mankind
 
Well that's the bubble multiverse theory. Basically our universe is contained in a bubble and it floats around. There are an infinite amount of bubbles/"universes" btw. When two bubbles collide they can create a new universe which is a mix between the two. The whole atom thing is based off of another theory which states that there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them.

but anyways i feel i'm off topic lol
I've heard mention of something called "the source". You could try investigating that if you really feel intrigued about it. Just look for the answers and eventually you'll find them. But do keep in mind that the finite cannot grasp the infinite.










--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "James Rich" <rimpytipy2@... wrote:

No ,god. created universe. theres a new theory called multiverse theory where there more universes that this one (not talking about astral realm). theres 4 large universes and the universe is like a bubble. in the 2 multiverse is where universes are created from nothing. How? we dont know because other multi or universes have diffrrent laws of physics. but the amout of universe are infiniate meaning there can even be a universe that is an exact copy of our universe. scientist are expermenting right now with unstable atoms to try to get the chance of dark matter (I dont remember what the experment exactly is but theyre trying to get something.). they also say the universe can be created by other universes as well. they theories our universe is a break off of another universe.

theres just so much more i could get into but point is, it doesnt matter who or what a real god is. what matters is if a god exists (enki) the universe will go on without them. the multiverses are independant.

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------Original Message------
From: acid312 <acid312@...
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 04:55 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be

The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "acid312" <acid312@... wrote:
The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
acid plz attempt to calculate the odds of chance for all of the following to happen individually and you will possibly understand my point

the right kind of galaxy to form
the right kind of star to form
the right location of the star
the right location of the galaxy
the right kind of materails to orbit the star in order to create planets
the right kind of distance between each planet
the many many variables go on and on

orbit velocity, galaxy type, planet location, star location, star type
orbit degrees,
the are over 20 to maybe even more then 100 different separate variables for just one single planet to be able to harbor life
all of them have to line up just right or it wont work

BY CHANCE?!

yes chance can make impossible things but the universe is guided by some kind of force

whatever it is prob exists to ensure certain things happen certain ways

if such a force did not exist
the universe truly would run on pure chaos

it does run on chaos but some kind of will manipulates the chaos here and there when necessary

trust me the universe has some kind of force helping it stay on track so it can maximize its own potential

a super genius like enki prob would understand my point

there is some kind of force in the universe manipulating chance in attempt to increase the chance more successful life will develop
also if the gods are just mere evolved aliens then ....what about beings who came from other universes and other worlds

are the gods really gods or just aliens arranged to evolve by another mysterious force

when they had bodys they may have been just aleins but i assume as they may exist outside the materail world now they may transcend the limits of the universe itself right?

if a god is within a universe within material form is it not subject to the very laws that govern that same universe

since they may be subject to such universal laws then how are they gods

sure they made mankind but im pretty sure many others races could pull off a similar thing

i know this is disrespectful but im trying to prove point
in spirit they are gods while not limited by space and time in body they are probably subject to the very same laws mankind itself is subject to

i heard a tale of ancient aleins races among the first races to every exist

so far my sources tells me there were once four major races who came into the universe first

the furfur
the asgard
the ancients
and some other race i forgot the name of it

if these are the first aliens who if still alive most likely have the most power and wisdom of all life in the universe (this universe)
my point is

what if our gods are just arranged creations or aliens who are although superior to us maybe inferior to an older race that been around even longer and if that race has been around that long then what was around before them

there has got to be some kind of force that is able to transcend multiple universes

i already found out about at least five alternate universes in existence i have managed to identify (with help)

there could be hundreds upon thousands of others

and our universe is the one that has these gods who live IN this universe and if within bodies may be subject to the universes own rules

if our gods material gods subject to the universe itself while in body
exist mainly in this universe

then if there are other universes that means existence if far bigger then just the range of our gods

if this is true

how can the other universes exist and do they have their own gods just like us

or is there an even higher entity of intesne power that keeps an eye on many universe at once
for that matter
what is in between these universes how do they connect

where does it lead back to

if there exists many universes there must be something kind of fabric in between them all preventing them from running into each other
above this fabric must be some kind of strange plane where it is possible to craft a entire universe based on certain target specifications by assigning certain laws to it

if anyone knows how to contact Lucifer himself he should know about the universal laws of this universe and how other universes have their own laws too each in which all inhabitants of each universe are subject to

does anybody have any ideas or comments on this new addition to this topic
 
accually they are useing the hadron collider at cern labs in switzerland.its currently off line.due to the em.explosion that destroyed two of there magconductors.other then that your pretty spot on.good  job. 

From: James Rich <rimpytipy2@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:15:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be

  No ,god. created universe. theres a new theory called multiverse theory where there more universes that this one (not talking about astral realm). theres 4 large universes and the universe is like a bubble. in the 2 multiverse is where universes are created from nothing. How? we dont know because other multi or universes have diffrrent laws of physics. but the amout of universe are infiniate meaning there can even be a universe that is an exact copy of our universe. scientist are expermenting right now with unstable atoms to try to get the chance of dark matter (I dont remember what the experment exactly is but theyre trying to get something.). they also say the universe can be created by other universes as well. they theories our universe is a break off of another universe.

theres just so much more i could get into but point is, it doesnt matter who or what a real god is. what matters is if a god exists (enki) the universe will go on without them. the multiverses are independant.

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From: acid312 <acid312@yahoo. com
To: <JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 04:55 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be

The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ ... wrote:

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
 
<td val[/IMG]"there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them".   My question is: do these other universes notice us? And: What can we expect if our universe collides with another bubble "I mean universe"? Do they form a new universe, new creatures with different characteristics? And the most important question is: can we still have sex after the collision? 


--- On Sun, 9/13/09, twilight_of_abyss <twilight_of_abyss@... wrote:
From: twilight_of_abyss <twilight_of_abyss@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 5:03 AM

  Well that's the bubble multiverse theory. Basically our universe is contained in a bubble and it floats around. There are an infinite amount of bubbles/"universes" btw. When two bubbles collide they can create a new universe which is a mix between the two. The whole atom thing is based off of another theory which states that there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them.

but anyways i feel i'm off topic lol
I've heard mention of something called "the source". You could try investigating that if you really feel intrigued about it. Just look for the answers and eventually you'll find them. But do keep in mind that the finite cannot grasp the infinite.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "James Rich" <rimpytipy2@ ... wrote:

No ,god. created universe. theres a new theory called multiverse theory where there more universes that this one (not talking about astral realm). theres 4 large universes and the universe is like a bubble. in the 2 multiverse is where universes are created from nothing. How? we dont know because other multi or universes have diffrrent laws of physics. but the amout of universe are infiniate meaning there can even be a universe that is an exact copy of our universe. scientist are expermenting right now with unstable atoms to try to get the chance of dark matter (I dont remember what the experment exactly is but theyre trying to get something.). they also say the universe can be created by other universes as well. they theories our universe is a break off of another universe.

theres just so much more i could get into but point is, it doesnt matter who or what a real god is. what matters is if a god exists (enki) the universe will go on without them. the multiverses are independant.

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From: acid312 <acid312@...
To: <JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 04:55 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be

The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
[/TD]
 
Right, because any physical or metaphysical entity that created the universe or multiverse would have, at some indeterminate "beginning" point, had to have created itself unless you use the argument that he/she/it has simply "always been". In which case, what's the real difference between the "god" having "always been" and the multiverse itself continuously collapsing and reforming? It's a toss-up, and something you can't really know within the confines of mortality. And as far as the argument of "it can't be by chance cause it's too complex so it's not likely" think about this: It happened, right? Can't be too unlikely if it happened. And one of the rules of a random or chaotic system is that at some point the system will eventually form easily measurable patterns of behavior. This is because the system sets itself into actions and reactions based on the laws given to that system. So while it seems unlikely for the universe to be formed by atoms forming into molecules, molecules collapsing into stars, stars exploding to leave the building blocks for planets, and then everything coalescing into solar systems which group up and make galaxies, It's really perfectly within the laws of nature and physics given to the universe to do so. It only seems like there must be some kind of divine intervention because you don't well enough understand the intricacies of physics, gravity, inertia and the like to see WHY the universe acts in such a way as it does.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "dr_coatlicue" <dasune_sensei@... wrote:

To ask "Who created the universe" implies that there is some being capable of such a task. But then you must ask, who created that being? And that one? It's a cycle that doesn't have an answer. But if you can believe that the universe is creatable, why not believe that it created itself? I don't know what Enki has to say about this, but I do believe that it's most likely that the universe exists, the universe destroys itself, and the universe creates itself, forever.

I'm sort of paraphrasing/adding to some quote I heard once but I can't remember it or who said it...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
 
1.We are all oblivious from one another based on my understanding. It is possible to view other universes but we lack the knowledge(that part is just a guess.)

*Please also keep in mind this is all scientific theory as well.

2.When the bubbles collide it'll form a combination between the two universes. I don't know what it would form honestly. Sex is a way for reproduction so I'd say it'd still be there unless they had another way to reproduce lol

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Max Valmer <maxvalmer@... wrote:

"there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them".
 
My question is: do these other universes notice us? And: What can we expect if our universe collides with another bubble "I mean universe"? Do they form a new universe, new creatures with different characteristics? And the most important question is: can we still have sex after the collision? 


--- On Sun, 9/13/09, twilight_of_abyss <twilight_of_abyss@... wrote:


From: twilight_of_abyss <twilight_of_abyss@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 5:03 AM


 



Well that's the bubble multiverse theory. Basically our universe is contained in a bubble and it floats around. There are an infinite amount of bubbles/"universes" btw. When two bubbles collide they can create a new universe which is a mix between the two. The whole atom thing is based off of another theory which states that there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them.

but anyways i feel i'm off topic lol
I've heard mention of something called "the source". You could try investigating that if you really feel intrigued about it. Just look for the answers and eventually you'll find them. But do keep in mind that the finite cannot grasp the infinite.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "James Rich" <rimpytipy2@ ... wrote:

No ,god. created universe. theres a new theory called multiverse theory where there more universes that this one (not talking about astral realm). theres 4 large universes and the universe is like a bubble. in the 2 multiverse is where universes are created from nothing. How? we dont know because other multi or universes have diffrrent laws of physics. but the amout of universe are infiniate meaning there can even be a universe that is an exact copy of our universe. scientist are expermenting right now with unstable atoms to try to get the chance of dark matter (I dont remember what the experment exactly is but theyre trying to get something.). they also say the universe can be created by other universes as well. they theories our universe is a break off of another universe.

theres just so much more i could get into but point is, it doesnt matter who or what a real god is. what matters is if a god exists (enki) the universe will go on without them. the multiverses are independant.

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------Original Message----- -
From: acid312 <acid312@
To: <JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 04:55 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be

The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Max Valmer <maxvalmer@... wrote:
"there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them".
 
My question is: do these other universes notice us? And: What can we expect if our universe collides with another bubble "I mean universe"? Do they form a new universe, new creatures with different characteristics? And the most important question is: can we still have sex after the collision? 


--- On Sun, 9/13/09, twilight_of_abyss <twilight_of_abyss@... wrote:


From: twilight_of_abyss <twilight_of_abyss@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 5:03 AM


 



Well that's the bubble multiverse theory. Basically our universe is contained in a bubble and it floats around. There are an infinite amount of bubbles/"universes" btw. When two bubbles collide they can create a new universe which is a mix between the two. The whole atom thing is based off of another theory which states that there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them.

but anyways i feel i'm off topic lol
I've heard mention of something called "the source". You could try investigating that if you really feel intrigued about it. Just look for the answers and eventually you'll find them. But do keep in mind that the finite cannot grasp the infinite.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "James Rich" <rimpytipy2@ ... wrote:

No ,god. created universe. theres a new theory called multiverse theory where there more universes that this one (not talking about astral realm). theres 4 large universes and the universe is like a bubble. in the 2 multiverse is where universes are created from nothing. How? we dont know because other multi or universes have diffrrent laws of physics. but the amout of universe are infiniate meaning there can even be a universe that is an exact copy of our universe. scientist are expermenting right now with unstable atoms to try to get the chance of dark matter (I dont remember what the experment exactly is but theyre trying to get something.). they also say the universe can be created by other universes as well. they theories our universe is a break off of another universe.

theres just so much more i could get into but point is, it doesnt matter who or what a real god is. what matters is if a god exists (enki) the universe will go on without them. the multiverses are independant.

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------Original Message----- -
From: acid312 <acid312@
To: <JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 04:55 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be

The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture
so thats how it really works that helped alot
now im beginning to understand things btw everyone i finally am getting serious about studying the jos material i finally got ahold of the blacksun 666 pdf book containing all the names of the replaced gods and explaining everything
some of these names i seem to know from when i was young somehow (well younger)

btw as for my spelling i still lack the good skills i should have learned in school i never really was big on spelling or grammar but ill try to improve over time i can however space things out to make them more readable

oh btw enki or something claiming to be enki visited me recently and following this meeting alot of others beings have been coming in frequently checking on me one of them kept poking me which pissed me off then it finally stopped when asked

anyway ill prob behave alot smarter and respectful in the coming days
so sorry if i upset anyone

so every universe vibrates just like spirits vibrate
that brings another question

how many damn frequences in existence are there

theres gotta be tons of frequences just for entire universes AND entire populations of both spirits gods aliens demons who knows what else out there
to vibrate freely

then ya got atoms that vibrate and all that stuff

just what would be the biggest vibrational spectrum that could support all the other vibrations including vibrations in other universes and around and outside other universes including these multi verse bubbles
there has got to be some kind of master vibration that helps keep stuff from bashing into each other or creating a vibrational energy train wreck
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vorpulor" <vorpulor@... wrote:
Right, because any physical or metaphysical entity that created the universe or multiverse would have, at some indeterminate "beginning" point, had to have created itself unless you use the argument that he/she/it has simply "always been". In which case, what's the real difference between the "god" having "always been" and the multiverse itself continuously collapsing and reforming? It's a toss-up, and something you can't really know within the confines of mortality. And as far as the argument of "it can't be by chance cause it's too complex so it's not likely" think about this: It happened, right? Can't be too unlikely if it happened. And one of the rules of a random or chaotic system is that at some point the system will eventually form easily measurable patterns of behavior. This is because the system sets itself into actions and reactions based on the laws given to that system. So while it seems unlikely for the universe to be formed by atoms forming into molecules, molecules collapsing into stars, stars exploding to leave the building blocks for planets, and then everything coalescing into solar systems which group up and make galaxies, It's really perfectly within the laws of nature and physics given to the universe to do so. It only seems like there must be some kind of divine intervention because you don't well enough understand the intricacies of physics, gravity, inertia and the like to see WHY the universe acts in such a way as it does.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "dr_coatlicue" <dasune_sensei@ wrote:

To ask "Who created the universe" implies that there is some being capable of such a task. But then you must ask, who created that being? And that one? It's a cycle that doesn't have an answer. But if you can believe that the universe is creatable, why not believe that it created itself? I don't know what Enki has to say about this, but I do believe that it's most likely that the universe exists, the universe destroys itself, and the universe creates itself, forever.

I'm sort of paraphrasing/adding to some quote I heard once but I can't remember it or who said it...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance
well i gonna just go with this answer i know that all the gods are evolved beings now and the last time i heard the old thought form yahweh is only 6000 years old or 6 years or whatever i don't really know i just know hes not what everyone claims
and the universe is far older then the age i gotten from the info i have obtained

anyway im siding all the way with enki now aside from trying to protect some friends who may not fully understand and get hurt because of it

i gotta go take my shower now bye i am aware that a chaotic system can produce alot of stuff in fact i had to learn that the hard way it seems being exposed to so much chaotic energy during my life somehow gave me a gift of taking advantage of some form of loose effect that comes from chaos

my mind tells me this if chaos can bring forth order and creation out of nothing then that means pure creation can literally come from nothing or just chaos which answers almost everything
 
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@... wrote:
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Max Valmer <maxvalmer@ wrote:

"there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them".
 
My question is: do these other universes notice us? And: What can we expect if our universe collides with another bubble "I mean universe"? Do they form a new universe, new creatures with different characteristics? And the most important question is: can we still have sex after the collision? 


--- On Sun, 9/13/09, twilight_of_abyss <twilight_of_abyss@ wrote:


From: twilight_of_abyss <twilight_of_abyss@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 5:03 AM


 



Well that's the bubble multiverse theory. Basically our universe is contained in a bubble and it floats around. There are an infinite amount of bubbles/"universes" btw. When two bubbles collide they can create a new universe which is a mix between the two. The whole atom thing is based off of another theory which states that there are an infinite amount of universes contained in the same spot.. they each just vibrate at different frequencies so we don't notice them.

but anyways i feel i'm off topic lol
I've heard mention of something called "the source". You could try investigating that if you really feel intrigued about it. Just look for the answers and eventually you'll find them. But do keep in mind that the finite cannot grasp the infinite.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "James Rich" <rimpytipy2@ ... wrote:

No ,god. created universe. theres a new theory called multiverse theory where there more universes that this one (not talking about astral realm). theres 4 large universes and the universe is like a bubble. in the 2 multiverse is where universes are created from nothing. How? we dont know because other multi or universes have diffrrent laws of physics. but the amout of universe are infiniate meaning there can even be a universe that is an exact copy of our universe. scientist are expermenting right now with unstable atoms to try to get the chance of dark matter (I dont remember what the experment exactly is but theyre trying to get something.). they also say the universe can be created by other universes as well. they theories our universe is a break off of another universe.

theres just so much more i could get into but point is, it doesnt matter who or what a real god is. what matters is if a god exists (enki) the universe will go on without them. the multiverses are independant.

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From: acid312 <acid312@
To: <JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 04:55 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: question according to enki what started it all how did the cosmos come to be

The Gods evolved like all animals do, from "lesser" species. Don't forget that they are real physical beings like us. Only humanity did not evolve naturally, we were "genetically engineered" by the Gods. And guess what, we probably won't know what happened to the universe and I believe that Satan could be as knowledgeable as us in this matter. But like I said surely a being *didn't* create it. And a last thing, how do you know it isn't by chance?Chance can create the most impossible things sometimes, like many beings evolve BY CHANCE into better beings. It COULD be by chance.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "whatshisface1117" <whatshisface1117@ wrote:

Perhaps its always existed.


Only thing I know is that its infinite.





--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "deathkillxx" <deathkillxx@ wrote:

if the xian god truly is a big fat lie then who really did create this material world

all i got for possible choices are ymil, odin, khronos of the greek gods, some female alien goddess type being, zues, the source, jesus and Yahweh

jesus and Yahweh are out so

next best choice is a being known as the source

but really who started the creation of the cosmos according to enki
what is the origin of existence itself the true source of all creations material and immaterial

i really want to know who really created everything cause enki created mankind somebody had to create this universe itself for enki to put mankind inside of

it had to come from somewhere and it is not by pure chance


maybe this universe is the offspring of another universe
but that still dont answer who created all the gods
all everything is made of energy right
cosmic energy satanic energy demonic energy alien energy elemental
types of energy i do not even know about yet
atomic energy makes up nearly everything in this material world
there has got to be some kind of origin of all for everything i mean for something to exist it must either be created or always been around
if the universe truly if infinite and sentient it should know every single thing about everything
you me enki i don't know maybe president bush lol know what i mean

theres gotta be some super know all conscious mind out there that is the true head of everything able to get involved when things get messed up and it can't be a xian god and enki only made mankind and as far as i know did not create everything

so somebody else enki may know may have all the answers im looking for

i really want to know how i got here i got ppl telling i been reincarnated so many damn times its retarded

i do not even remember a single past life and so far some have read me and think i been around 2000 lifetimes

i already found out about alternate universes alternate material realms
and i keep asking myself how did all of this stuff get into existence in the first place

enkis powerful he made mankind it would prob take an entire generation of geniuses to pull off what he did but it still don't give an answer to how i got here and why everything happened the way it did

so there has got to be somebody or something else that ensured this universe came out the way it did cause it cant be by just pure chance there are too many variables and odds for it to be just chance

anybody have any ideas
so far zidar the universe being infinite and always was around is not enough i already found out from a freind this universe is not a universe it is part of a multiverse created by a certain being to solve a certain problem

(this being claims to be much older and much more authentic and powerful then the xian god teachings claim to be)

this may not be true or it might be true

either way i still got only pieces of answers from different people and not a full truth to the big picture



so thats how it really works that helped alot
now im beginning to understand things btw everyone i finally am getting serious about studying the jos material i finally got ahold of the blacksun 666 pdf book containing all the names of the replaced gods and explaining everything
some of these names i seem to know from when i was young somehow (well younger)

btw as for my spelling i still lack the good skills i should have learned in school i never really was big on spelling or grammar but ill try to improve over time i can however space things out to make them more readable

oh btw enki or something claiming to be enki visited me recently and following this meeting alot of others beings have been coming in frequently checking on me one of them kept poking me which pissed me off then it finally stopped when asked

anyway ill prob behave alot smarter and respectful in the coming days
so sorry if i upset anyone

so every universe vibrates just like spirits vibrate
that brings another question

how many damn frequences in existence are there

theres gotta be tons of frequences just for entire universes AND entire populations of both spirits gods aliens demons who knows what else out there
to vibrate freely

then ya got atoms that vibrate and all that stuff

just what would be the biggest vibrational spectrum that could support all the other vibrations including vibrations in other universes and around and outside other universes including these multi verse bubbles
there has got to be some kind of master vibration that helps keep stuff from bashing into each other or creating a vibrational energy train wreck
Well.. who's to say that there aren't vibrational train wrecks lol
As for the vibrational spectrum.. it could be that there are an infinite amount of vibrations. Here's a theory, maybe we all have our own vibrations, BUT maybe, we all have an underlying vibration. Like a level beneath our own normal vibrations. This "lower level" could hold us to our own universe. Just a theory. I'm still a beginner myself so i can't see if this holds true yet lol.

Hail Father Enki!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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