Question about psychic powers

[ghost kid]

I heard that your brain can channel the energy of the universe.And help you literally make things happen just by thinking about them.Is this true?

 

[Ad Victoriam]

I heard that your brain can channel the energy of the universe.And help you literally make things happen just by thinking about them.Is this true?

"The energy of the universe", that's quite vague but in the literal sense yes, because all forms of energy would be "of the universe". Eventually you may be able to manifest things with your mind effortlessly, but at first and in most cases this requires power accumulated via meditation and the application of some variation of a ritual.

For example, if you wanted to have sex with a celebrity crush, you'd be energetically competing with every other person who wanted the same thing. Your circumstances will determine how efficient your energy is, for example if you're an ugly duckling then you'll have to work extra hard to compensate for the outcome to happen, compared to a Giga Chad with chiseled abs who may not even have to meditate a single day for it to come true.

When you're advanced, and by that I don't mean meditating for 30 minutes a day but instead more like 5 hours a day, you'll likely realize that you can achieve pretty much anything with effort.

I have a feeling you won't read this, and if you did you wouldn't understand what I meant... whatever I have a short amount of time to kill rn.

HS

 

[Sakra]

Have you ever seen those number ball lotto machines and wondered why they break down from time to time? There's an insane vortex of energy that goes towards them that is continously trying to manipulate or alter the outcomes. Energy goes wherever it is directed and its effectiveness is determined by the spiritual power of its sender, For some who transcend to higher states of existence, the veil between reality can be pierced easily which enables such things as electrokinesis, pyrokinesis etc...

 

[AFODO]

I heard that your brain can channel the energy of the universe.And help you literally make things happen just by thinking about them.Is this true?

It's not that simple.
I higly recomend you to learn form the JoS site and from this forum, rather than just asking some very beginner stuff, and make us answer these stupid questions. -oOOOOoooOh yeah there is no stupid question, sorry :lol: -
satanisgod.org
joyofsatan.org
https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Meditation.html
https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Sermons.html
https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Witchcraft_Index.html

When you're advanced, and by that I don't mean meditating for 30 minutes a day but instead more like 5 hours a day, you'll likely realize that you can achieve pretty much anything with effort.

Advanced ones won't meditate for that long. Advancement doesn't come with long period meditations.
Nearly nobody meditating for 5 hours a day. If you are advanced you can do workings in a relatively short time.

 

[ScarletStar]

I heard that your brain can channel the energy of the universe.And help you literally make things happen just by thinking about them.Is this true?

Our minds and thoughts generate energy on the astral/4th dimension which interacts with and manipulates the physical world around us to manifest the things we think about and desire into reality.
'Normal' human thoughts these days are pathetically weak and just fizzle out on the astral and don't do much of anything because humanity has been stripped of occult practices and teachings. Our enemies have tried to make humans no different than animals and also are trying to turn us into a slave race entirely and keep all occult teachings and power to themselves.

Through power meditation we empower our souls which also increases the power of our thoughts which makes it easier to manifest our desires into reality.

 

[Ad Victoriam]

I heard that your brain can channel the energy of the universe.And help you literally make things happen just by thinking about them.Is this true?

It's not that simple.
I higly recomend you to learn form the JoS site and from this forum, rather than just asking some very beginner stuff, and make us answer these stupid questions. -oOOOOoooOh yeah there is no stupid question, sorry :lol: -
satanisgod.org
joyofsatan.org
https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Meditation.html
https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Sermons.html
https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Witchcraft_Index.html

When you're advanced, and by that I don't mean meditating for 30 minutes a day but instead more like 5 hours a day, you'll likely realize that you can achieve pretty much anything with effort.

Advanced ones won't meditate for that long. Advancement doesn't come with long period meditations.
Nearly nobody meditating for 5 hours a day. If you are advanced you can do workings in a relatively short time.

I recommend you don't speak about things as if you understand them perfectly. People who meditate for 5 hours a day, such as ancient Tibetans, would be on an entirely different league than what you probably think "advanced" means. Yes, meditating to that level isn't required to get you a minimum wage job or a half decent girlfriend. If you want to be a millionaire and would rather not get screwed over by the enemy every xian holiday, you'll be spending at least an hour or two on an aura of protection alone.

HS.

 

[AFODO]

I recommend you don't speak about things as if you understand them perfectly. People who meditate for 5 hours a day, such as ancient Tibetans, would be on an entirely different league than what you probably think "advanced" means. Yes, meditating to that level isn't required to get you a minimum wage job or a half decent girlfriend. If you want to be a millionaire and would rather not get screwed over by the enemy every xian holiday, you'll be spending at least an hour or two on an aura of protection alone.

HS.

I still don't agree.
It seems, in your perspective, the longer you meditate the better things you can manifest.
which in a way could be true but not how you say it.
with corrupted informations as it is in Buddhism, and nearly in every spiritual religion, you may have to meditate for 2 hours a day in order to advance.
There are just a few has 2-5hours to meditate, and it is not necesary to meditate for that long to become a god which I call a league of super-advanced.


Yes there are people here meditating a lot, because there is a spiritual warfare schedule, and these rituals together may take up a hour or more, besides that if one do a full chakra meditation, twin serpent meditation, and a AoP, then it will be 2-2,5 hours.

But 2 hours for only AoP is extreme. Maybe for one-one day, and if you are in real danger.

Yes I don't know everything, and don't understand everything, but you should understand that these sentences are wrong:

Yes, meditating to that level isn't required to get you a minimum wage job or a half decent girlfriend. If you want to be a millionaire and would rather not get screwed over by the enemy every xian holiday, you'll be spending at least an hour or two on an aura of protection alone.

 

[Ad Victoriam]

I recommend you don't speak about things as if you understand them perfectly. People who meditate for 5 hours a day, such as ancient Tibetans, would be on an entirely different league than what you probably think "advanced" means. Yes, meditating to that level isn't required to get you a minimum wage job or a half decent girlfriend. If you want to be a millionaire and would rather not get screwed over by the enemy every xian holiday, you'll be spending at least an hour or two on an aura of protection alone.

HS.

I still don't agree.
It seems, in your perspective, the longer you meditate the better things you can manifest.
which in a way could be true but not how you say it.
with corrupted informations as it is in Buddhism, and nearly in every spiritual religion, you may have to meditate for 2 hours a day in order to advance.
There are just a few has 2-5hours to meditate, and it is not necesary to meditate for that long to become a god which I call a league of super-advanced.


Yes there are people here meditating a lot, because there is a spiritual warfare schedule, and these rituals together may take up a hour or more, besides that if one do a full chakra meditation, twin serpent meditation, and a AoP, then it will be 2-2,5 hours.

But 2 hours for only AoP is extreme. Maybe for one-one day, and if you are in real danger.

Yes I don't know everything, and don't understand everything, but you should understand that these sentences are wrong:

Yes, meditating to that level isn't required to get you a minimum wage job or a half decent girlfriend. If you want to be a millionaire and would rather not get screwed over by the enemy every xian holiday, you'll be spending at least an hour or two on an aura of protection alone.

On what basis would you understand what it takes to become a "God"?

2 hours of meditation is pretty much the minimum time where you'll achieve anything substantial. Substantial in this context meaning the accomplishment of anything very abnormal that a person doesn't naturally have the capacity of achieving. If you meditated on your chakras and general power for an hour, then defenses and cleaning for the last hour you'll probably be fine. But for me and others who aren't satisfied with "fine", it's never going to be enough. At this amount of meditation you'll likely have to pair it with a lot of physical hard work and discipline towards your intentions anyway.

When you become powerful you'll most definitely stand out to predatory entities that will fuck you up just to keep you down. If they see a weak aop or other weaknesses they'll exploit it.

How is what I said wrong? How would you know whether it was wrong if you haven't experienced the difference? You are wrong and your expectations of what meditating for less than 2 hours is very delusional.

I have experienced the difference. I was going to explain in more detail but it came off as bragging.

HS

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

Everyone has different volumes and needs, so any specific timeframe of meditation for anything will be always suited by the individual. Fulfillment and reach of this fulfillment or almost excess is a good indicator, as everyday can be different in terms of openness, capacity etc.

It is definitely true that you need to dedicate time, and for exceptional things you need to do exceptional actions. It is also underestimated the time and effort required for true manifestations and clearings in life, but regardless an organic approach must take place as well, as the meditation and workings in themselves open dimensions within all realms to deal with and there's work there too, depending on the level. Mental, emotional, spiritual and material, all of these are affected and must be resolved by the other pole too, such as living it and seeking the manifestations out.

For that reason one can understand cycles of deep and long spiritual workings and cycles of easier approach and outward resolve. Knowing oneself, you can suit this very easily.

On what basis would you understand what it takes to become a "God"?

2 hours of meditation is pretty much the minimum time where you'll achieve anything substantial. Substantial in this context meaning the accomplishment of anything very abnormal that a person doesn't naturally have the capacity of achieving. If you meditated on your chakras and general power for an hour, then defenses and cleaning for the last hour you'll probably be fine. But for me and others who aren't satisfied with "fine", it's never going to be enough. At this amount of meditation you'll likely have to pair it with a lot of physical hard work and discipline towards your intentions anyway.

When you become powerful you'll most definitely stand out to predatory entities that will fuck you up just to keep you down. If they see a weak aop or other weaknesses they'll exploit it.

How is what I said wrong? How would you know whether it was wrong if you haven't experienced the difference? You are wrong and your expectations of what meditating for less than 2 hours is very delusional.

I have experienced the difference. I was going to explain in more detail but it came off as bragging.

HS

I agree about the missing awareness of the required effort and time needed for some things in life.

2 hours is probably a suitable frame for you, and can be understood as so, yet not all people have the ability or time to do that only for meditation, and if they do, they don't have the ability to sustain it. So, this is not a rule but more of an observation of your own ability and effect and also psychological and disciplinary structure you instate, which is very fine and great.

In time all people should develop and want to do this, as this is a very serious thing. Some can meditate for a lot of hours on end for years, exclusively, in deep meditative work. But one needs to reach this, otherwise it creates a great imbalance in the body and mind.

The meditative practical aspects tend to go the opposite way, which is to gather efficiency and less time to be able to be done truly.

If anyone is satisfied or exhausted after 20 minutes of meditation, this is very fine. Do not force from 20 minutes to 2 hours just because another can. Rather do it incrementally in time.

 

[AFODO]

You have experienced the difference it is no question, obviously the more you meditate the faster you will advance, but that does not mean a person who meditate a lot less is not going to advance, they will advance but slower and can advance to the point where the person who meditate for a very long period.

The term advanced includes a strong aura, and people with strong aura does not get fucked by weak parasites.
If you are advanced you have strong aura, the strong protective aura not just came from the AoP meditation, but obviously the AoP meditation is very important.

You can't be advanced without strong aura. Advanced meditations, works require strong aura like telekinesis.
So if you put that in that case, If you can do telekinesis effectivelly, you are advanced, and you probably have a strong aura which protects you. The Aop is for to program your aura that protects you and give more reflective energy to your aura so it can protects you more effectively.

If you open your chakras your soul will have more energy, and the AoP meditation will have more sense to do because if your chakras are closed your soul probably not so strong, and the AoP meditation has no much effect.
As you opened your chakras your souls energy will rise, your aura will be more powerfull, and now the AoP will make sense because you can program that "strong" aura to protect you.

As you are advancing you can advance your self more effectivelly, because your soul will have more energy, you can visualize better, your soul will get used to your workings and so on.. So it means you don't have to meditate more only because you are advanced.

There is a temporary status where you are not so advanced but entities migh see you more astrally then other people, and in this status AoP is very important to do. Still, 2 hour of AoP is ridiculously lot, and if you do it with mantras, runes, and invoking to much energy it is very dangerous

 

[Ad Victoriam]

Everyone has different volumes and needs, so any specific timeframe of meditation for anything will be always suited by the individual. Fulfillment and reach of this fulfillment or almost excess is a good indicator, as everyday can be different in terms of openness, capacity etc.

It is definitely true that you need to dedicate time, and for exceptional things you need to do exceptional actions. It is also underestimated the time and effort required for true manifestations and clearings in life, but regardless an organic approach must take place as well, as the meditation and workings in themselves open dimensions within all realms to deal with and there's work there too, depending on the level. Mental, emotional, spiritual and material, all of these are affected and must be resolved by the other pole too, such as living it and seeking the manifestations out.

For that reason one can understand cycles of deep and long spiritual workings and cycles of easier approach and outward resolve. Knowing oneself, you can suit this very easily.

On what basis would you understand what it takes to become a "God"?

2 hours of meditation is pretty much the minimum time where you'll achieve anything substantial. Substantial in this context meaning the accomplishment of anything very abnormal that a person doesn't naturally have the capacity of achieving. If you meditated on your chakras and general power for an hour, then defenses and cleaning for the last hour you'll probably be fine. But for me and others who aren't satisfied with "fine", it's never going to be enough. At this amount of meditation you'll likely have to pair it with a lot of physical hard work and discipline towards your intentions anyway.

When you become powerful you'll most definitely stand out to predatory entities that will fuck you up just to keep you down. If they see a weak aop or other weaknesses they'll exploit it.

How is what I said wrong? How would you know whether it was wrong if you haven't experienced the difference? You are wrong and your expectations of what meditating for less than 2 hours is very delusional.

I have experienced the difference. I was going to explain in more detail but it came off as bragging.

HS

I agree about the missing awareness of the required effort and time needed for some things in life.

2 hours is probably a suitable frame for you, and can be understood as so, yet not all people have the ability or time to do that only for meditation, and if they do, they don't have the ability to sustain it. So, this is not a rule but more of an observation of your own ability and effect and also psychological and disciplinary structure you instate, which is very fine and great.

In time all people should develop and want to do this, as this is a very serious thing. Some can meditate for a lot of hours on end for years, exclusively, in deep meditative work. But one needs to reach this, otherwise it creates a great imbalance in the body and mind.

The meditative practical aspects tend to go the opposite way, which is to gather efficiency and less time to be able to be done truly.

If anyone is satisfied or exhausted after 20 minutes of meditation, this is very fine. Do not force from 20 minutes to 2 hours just because another can. Rather do it incrementally in time.

Yes.

What else was I going to base this information on? Spirituality in most cases is anecdotal and it can be difficult to argue otherwise, even if evidence is presentable. For example, I could say I base my observations on my ability to life cars with telekinesis, which isn't true but even if it was nobody would believe it anyway. Likewise, if I said I doubled my income each month for the past three months nobody would believe it either.

If meditating for 30 minutes makes a difference, then it's only common sense to see that meditating for 2+ hours makes a bigger difference, simple as the difference of 1+1=2 and 1+4=5.

The person I was speaking with formed their opinions based on nothing but their own personal delusional theories, while they likely meditate for a small amount of time and accomplish little for themselves or anyone else. This isn't an insult just the normal circumstances, and "everyone starts somewhere" as they say. I draw the line however when someone tries to overextend themselves and try to define things they couldn't have the possibility of knowing, such as what is required for anyone to become a "God".

HS

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

Yes.

What else was I going to base this information on? Spirituality in most cases is anecdotal and it can be difficult to argue otherwise, even if evidence is presentable. For example, I could say I base my observations on my ability to life cars with telekinesis, which isn't true but even if it was nobody would believe it anyway. Likewise, if I said I doubled my income each month for the past three months nobody would believe it either.

If meditating for 30 minutes makes a difference, then it's only common sense to see that meditating for 2+ hours makes a bigger difference, simple as the difference of 1+1=2 and 1+4=5.

The person I was speaking with formed their opinions based on nothing but their own personal delusional theories, while they likely meditate for a small amount of time and accomplish little for themselves or anyone else. This isn't an insult just the normal circumstances, and "everyone starts somewhere" as they say. I draw the line however when someone tries to overextend themselves and try to define things they couldn't have the possibility of knowing, such as what is required for anyone to become a "God".

HS

Almost all have no idea what really a God means in true form, and the highness of them. Of course there's going to be lack of appreciation and measure of things in general. There are ways to know factually and also doubling your income exponentially is actually expected and natural, when one is actually doing what needs to be done. This needs to be done by all. So congratulations, I am sure you help also on our advancement here in donations.

However, meditating in itself means a spiritual action or immersion, this is based on advancement and it is something that advances. Your hours spent on meditation is only but a part of becoming a God. Things are much more complex, workings, study and specific periods of advancement must happen, minimally. SO, If one is already advanced by past lives, his 20 minutes of meditation will be yours of 10 hours per day for a week. Same as workings.

Regardless, I do hope more people actually put more effort into meditation as it is extremely important. There are many paths towards what we aim for. All need to be done, yet every individual has a certain key path and ways.

 

[AFODO]

Yes.

What else was I going to base this information on? Spirituality in most cases is anecdotal and it can be difficult to argue otherwise, even if evidence is presentable. For example, I could say I base my observations on my ability to life cars with telekinesis, which isn't true but even if it was nobody would believe it anyway. Likewise, if I said I doubled my income each month for the past three months nobody would believe it either.

If meditating for 30 minutes makes a difference, then it's only common sense to see that meditating for 2+ hours makes a bigger difference, simple as the difference of 1+1=2 and 1+4=5.

The person I was speaking with formed their opinions based on nothing but their own personal delusional theories, while they likely meditate for a small amount of time and accomplish little for themselves or anyone else. This isn't an insult just the normal circumstances, and "everyone starts somewhere" as they say. I draw the line however when someone tries to overextend themselves and try to define things they couldn't have the possibility of knowing, such as what is required for anyone to become a "God".

HS

I do want to apologize if I looked stupid.

What I said is not based upon my own delusional theories, but you all perfectly right about spiritual advancing do requires a lot of time, and it is should taken seriously.

I disagreed with that you said that "30 minutes meditations maybe enaugh to get a minimum wage job." Or somthing like that you said.
I would not say that meditating for 1 hours is double that good or powerfull than 30minutes. It is realy based upon personal things, and what you realy do in that 1 or half an hour.

There are absulutelly advanced people who do not have the 3 hours time to meditate this is why I said advancement doesn't came with longer periods of time meditations, but yes it is very good to meditate that long, and care about yourseld and your advancement so much.

I also point out that meditating 3 hours might be dangerous if you invoke too much energy, but yes you can long meditate without invoking too much energy, but you just have the time to vibrate RAUM 1000 times and burn down your nervous system.

I also understand how un-understandable being a godlike. I was foolish to throwing out these words.

My freetime is around 6 hours, nobody should expect me to meditate for 3 hours but I never said that meditating for 3 hours do not have the advantages.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

I am sure you help also on our advancement here in donations.

I never donated to the Joy of Satan, and likely won't. There's many reasons for this, but I'll keep my explanation short. I'm not necessarily trying to "justify" myself not donating, as I'm not obligated to do so in the first place.

Of course. We are aware of the enemy thoughtforms destroying the clear understanding of positive acts in this world. One of the most positive acts, being donating to the Joy Of Satan, it is absolutely expected for beginner occultists to be confused by small enemy forces.

When I was first introduced to the Joy of Satan, the rhetoric regarding donations was nowhere near as loud as it is recently. I don't recall Maxine ever speaking about any obligation to donate to the Joy of Satan. When I joined, the Joy of Satan was free and given for the betterment of mankind in the name of Satan, and that was the end of it. I never made any oaths or signed any contracts that stated that if I should ever benefit from being introduced to the website that I should donate regularly to an amount that the clergy finds appropriate. It's not as if the Gods told me to either.

Joy of Satan is free and is the betterment of humanity manifested, one of the proof being that it is free for you, at the expense of other peoples whole existences. Yes. HPS** Maxine definitely abhors cowardice, as all Gods do and high advanced beings, surely it is understood by normal people that survival is needed in a material existence, the difference of time being now that we are flourishing in this survival and non functional people cannot disallow this by crying or not understanding the reality of existence. So yes, HPs Maxine at the time was empathic to hurting the false matrix in the peoples minds, so they don't die with it all together. Periods of existence and growth exists, and thanks to the HP Hoodedcobra grace we are allowed to flourish and advance in this way.

The last time I visited this forum there wasn't any personal benefits to donating. I saw there's donation tiers but I suspect that they aren't of much value in my position. I may look into it further, but I'm in no rush to.

Your position should allow also common sense and disallow passive aggressive rhetoric used by powerless beings of no influence in this world. Therefore, your position is a zero sum game for you and for all. But yes, no one should rush too much to advance and must keep climbing steady and slowing, from a worm to something more.

Also, there's an issue regarding transparency. Should the Joy of Satan be considered a nonprofit charity? If so, there's no measures of accountability that I'm aware of. If I dumped 10k USD on HP Hooded Cobra's lap, I might as well have thrown it into the ether. Where would the money go exactly, and could the Joy of Satan really have used it better than I could have? Even for a smaller amount such as 50 USD, the same questions apply. It's not as if my options are "donate to the Joy of Satan" or "hire a hooker and snort drugs off her butt"; more like "put liquid funds towards my own ideas that I have control over and an understanding of" or "give this money to someone I don't know in order work on things I'm not aware of".

Master mind, see that on the donations page it is clearly stated what one does with the donated money. More than this is also due to hard reality slaps, as one cannot behave and claim more than what one is. Here is an aspect of understanding hierarchy and having respect of one extensions of claims. When one does not donate one cannot get to know as he isn't due to knowing.

You can dump yourself free of idiotic thoughts first, and not on HP lap, like you are someone interesting or important, because you are not. Some irony simply revealed that your are flexing on nothing basically with no valuable actions or anything, and more than this exposes your traits and truth, which is to be a vicious fool with claims in face of HP.

These things do not work, don't know why you bother to try. From what world you thought this was going to fly?

I've promoted the Joy of Satan for years, I've recruited over a dozen people and I wrote a 100+ page tutorial based on my experiences and research on the general Occult. I've paid my dues a long time ago, just not in a financial capacity.

HS

A 10 year old spends more effort on a videogame. All you did was to your benefit and interest, yet when your interest and effort doesn't align with the actual reality, one cannot be guilt tripped by these things. No one is able to pay their dues to the Joy Of Satan ever, because the value exceeds worlds apart your small mind measure of things.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

You remind me of the reasons I left this place so many times before. I presented my opinions in the most humble and polite way I was able. Speaking honestly here often causes such arguments, as if I had to entirely conform to your mode of thinking or be "passive aggressive" and/or not rational. I said how I felt about these things, that's the end of it. There's no need to divulge into "passive aggression". What you're doing is an attempt of "guilt tripping", I think you know that and are attempting to gas light me. I don't care enough for that to work, my position on this isn't wavering a millimeter.

Reality is unbendable by delusions and you will find out the same reasons will persist extremely in time. Glad I could be of help, as a strong reality check.

I smell perversion even in its subconscious forms, so yes there is a reply to that, whether you can handle it or not as you lack the understanding of your position to any of your claims and sentences.

You are not honest, honest is to reveal the position you are in, which is one of many starting with arrogance and using it in a form that is against, in itself, and not me trying to work it out for your benefit by exposing it.

Others do not need to hear worthless behaviour and planted thoughtforms here along with disrespect upon the clergy which was seen from a mile away by me.

I wasn't aware HP Maxine was still part of the Clergy, she hasn't been here in awhile.

The truth scares many jews and enemies. One chooses a side while we are in perfect harmony.

Yes, it was my benefit and interest to spend years here without gaining anything personal at all from any of it. I don't have to justify myself to you or be an indentured slave indefinitely to the JoS clergy, even most jews aren't that greedy.

HS

If you gained nothing why would you spend years here? All the knowledge, wisdom and magical apparatus, blessings. Maybe one is stupid then. To do something purposeless.

We must give you medals and especially now after all of this behaviour to kiss your ass, bend a knee.

But reality is the one I am stating and you cannot bend that regardless.

Likewise we are not slaves to personalities based on wannabe cult leaders and defunct rationalities that smear and pollute at every break of a sentence.

Your remark about greediness is extremely defunct and based on nothing but you trying to insult. Jews have billions and trillions and most jews are extremely rich while we are getting insulted by a bitch brat for asking the secrets of the Universe for 10 dollars, generally, which then 10 dollars are not even donated.

You are getting destroyed by all realities and therefore unable to produce a single actual argument in any kind of world by this.

Worthless in my face, worthless in many other faces.

This behaviour breeds weakness, nothingness in life and shows you do nothing worthwhile. The problem is the attacks and the pollution upon the others of which you are not allowed to do here.

Everytime you and others weaponize your stupidity you'll definitely find a response.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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NakedPluto may be showing his anger, but I never found him to lack in any desire to be truthful or understanding, including towards yourself. I wouldn't distance yourself from him just because he is expressing himself in a stern way. He is being this way to uphold the reality of important matters, which includes the monetary position of JoS.

Your past contributions are not worthless, but they also do not fulfill the current needs of JoS. As you questioned what the money is used for, this includes server costs, creative programs/licenses, and advertisement, which is anything necessary for us to expand. This is a situation in which JoS needs funds to manifest the very proof that you require to invest in the first place.

As for what you owe, it makes sense to me that if your life has drastically improved from JoS, that you should feel obligated to support it, as a reflection of your own growth, but also as an investment into the growth of humanity as a whole.

I hope you are not in this position, but there are others who will spends lots of money on other worthless luxuries, yet they may scoff at being asked to provide $20 for educational materials that provided them with much prosperity. In the past, JoS was not ready for the same degree of expansion as it is now, so that is why HPHC is pushing to dispel the reality that all is fine if JoS goes financially unsupported, in stark contrast to the past fundraising of the enemy.

This is far beyond being an indentured slave. Without work, then we have nothing. What HPS Maxine had provided to you was the result of her own time and effort, but relationships cannot just be a one-way street, especially those which seek to continue to expand and prosper.

Just because you are not contractually obligated, does not mean you are not morally obligated, or obligated by duty in regards to seeing Satanism expand further into the world. You recognize JoS as being given for the betterment of mankind, but how is it ok for this be done at the expense of HPHC and HPS Maxine, but not through others.

I appreciate your prior support, but money is what JoS needs, simply due to reality. We cannot get around this.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

I'm busy so I'll keep this brief. Fuck you. I don't owe you or anyone here anything.

You poorly represent the Joy of Satan. I tried to be reasonable with you, but you've gone entirely out of bounds. You speak as if your subjective understanding and reality, ie your opinions and personal awareness, to be the only "true" reality. This speaks volumes of how far you've advanced, not to mention your lack of emotional control. You've only managed to further distance myself from this community, especially further from the amount of intimacy necessary for donating any amount. If your views are the views of the Clergy, which unfortunately I'm lead to believe, then I would definitely choose not to associate with you.

I was asking questions which you interpreted as attacks, and then followed with ad hominems towards a person you couldn't possibly know. You're a manipulative piece of shit, but these things only work on people lesser in value than you are yourself.

You've created paradoxes that I don't care to define as you're presenting yourself to be far too delusional to consider anything other than your current views and values.

I saw one of my posts were censored, but I can't tell which it was. If this was an attempt of censorship, that's disgraceful.

HS

1. Stating that you outgrew this place well before this exchange is telling enough in itself on where you are and what your values are projecting onto the community.

Inferring worthless behaviour with disrespectful elements upon the subject is in itself the "paradox" you get conflited on in to your mind.

2. Stating worthless opinions on very important subjects such as donations, perverting and insulting, is obviously not an attack, of course, it is a compliment to the whole.

You have been received with soft approach and given discussion before of this as well by me and others, yet the permeating tension in you and the conflict within was and is seen, therefore do not pretend any other way.

3. No one censors anyone here. If you posted something against the rules it can be disapproved. I am thinking that you are simply confused about this.


About the "fuck you" and "piece of shit", these do not impress me and neither anyone. If you'd take and put more effort in your communication, thought process and expositions, maybe there won't be any reason for hard reality wake ups and not position yourself in a position that you don't understand.

No one here is deserving of second hand opinions made on the spot by no effort and thought process, in a fuck you attitude regarding very important topics, like the donations, where there is a war against everyone gentile.

One is to ask and the other is to infer worthless behaviour with detached forms to attack and pervert.

All the talk about advanced that advanced this is simply code for "I cannot explain" therefore "I am superior" based on nothing.

Stating that donating money to JoS is putting money into ether is unacceptable to any giving of fuck to self individual. One does not partake on the affairs of the JoS, therefore uneducated. One must get educated and destroy worthless and school brating.

Having further claims on transparency like we are in an equal position of obligation to one another, escaping also the natural order and ethical steps, insinuating other seeds upon this, is again an attempt to cluster your main position that you project here.

Which is one of a conflictual ultra "individualism" that disallows any unitary growth and vision, therefore a disrupting element in your mind. Disallowing you to ask, and perceive clearly. You need to change the position of conflict and understand the dynamics of this.

Throwing 10k on the lap of HP is another epitome of worthlessness and exposition of nothingness in the world. Is HP someone you can throw money at? Like a hooker? Like a dog?

My friend you are severely mistaken that you will fly on with this bullshit, because there is strong reply to this.

No one asked you shit, no one told you that you owe anything. This is simply your enunciated conflict of "you vs anything" that drives only this dumb understanding.

When you enunciated a certain reality, such as "I haven't benefited personally" you get the natural response to this and it reveals only that.

If you want to live in a conflict non stop, such as this, you are on the path of destruction.

The path of creation is one that owing=giving in freedom and not restriction, and a moral duty that is flourishing on giving and receiving.

You thinking on the conflictual restrictive aspects only gives out stupid statements.

Slaves are those blinded by the brainwashing. The brainwashing that they are important while they are not. Self imposed worthlessness, not understanding the natural existence and the WAR in life and in every aspect.

Slave is reacting and not understanding your own self, enunciating enemy thoughtforms in a heartbeat, being conflictual to what is only positive.

Slave is defending stupidity.

In the same manner you are slave to your own body, goy, you have to eat everyday like a slave. Your parents were slaves, they fed you and helped you when young. Everybody is a slave then.

If you want to espouse buzz words in this context, feel free to understand the slavery on this.

This pattern of thinking produces nothing for you or anyone.

I wholly glad that I could act as a element of barrier for what pertains the weak, bullshit thought in you. I hope you overcome these and get to be purposefull even in anonymous interactions on this forum.

I could dive in harder into the sacredness and the highest degrees of necessity to destroy and be harsh on these front line ideas, but you'll have to suffice yourself on the basic common sense now.

 

[The light of the sun ☀️ with heagy gravity of ear]

Yes.

What else was I going to base this information on? Spirituality in most cases is anecdotal and it can be difficult to argue otherwise, even if evidence is presentable. For example, I could say I base my observations on my ability to life cars with telekinesis, which isn't true but even if it was nobody would believe it anyway. Likewise, if I said I doubled my income each month for the past three months nobody would believe it either.

If meditating for 30 minutes makes a difference, then it's only common sense to see that meditating for 2+ hours makes a bigger difference, simple as the difference of 1+1=2 and 1+4=5.

The person I was speaking with formed their opinions based on nothing but their own personal delusional theories, while they likely meditate for a small amount of time and accomplish little for themselves or anyone else. This isn't an insult just the normal circumstances, and "everyone starts somewhere" as they say. I draw the line however when someone tries to overextend themselves and try to define things they couldn't have the possibility of knowing, such as what is required for anyone to become a "God".

HS

Almost all have no idea what really a God means in true form, and the highness of them. Of course there's going to be lack of appreciation and measure of things in general. There are ways to know factually and also doubling your income exponentially is actually expected and natural, when one is actually doing what needs to be done. This needs to be done by all. So congratulations, I am sure you help also on our advancement here in donations.

However, meditating in itself means a spiritual action or immersion, this is based on advancement and it is something that advances. Your hours spent on meditation is only but a part of becoming a God. Things are much more complex, workings, study and specific periods of advancement must happen, minimally. SO, If one is already advanced by past lives, his 20 minutes of meditation will be yours of 10 hours per day for a week. Same as workings.

Regardless, I do hope more people actually put more effort into meditation as it is extremely important. There are many paths towards what we aim for. All need to be done, yet every individual has a certain key path and ways.

I am sure you help also on our advancement here in donations.

I never donated to the Joy of Satan, and likely won't. There's many reasons for this, but I'll keep my explanation short. I'm not necessarily trying to "justify" myself not donating, as I'm not obligated to do so in the first place.

When I was first introduced to the Joy of Satan, the rhetoric regarding donations was nowhere near as loud as it is recently. I don't recall Maxine ever speaking about any obligation to donate to the Joy of Satan. When I joined, the Joy of Satan was free and given for the betterment of mankind in the name of Satan, and that was the end of it. I never made any oaths or signed any contracts that stated that if I should ever benefit from being introduced to the website that I should donate regularly to an amount that the clergy finds appropriate. It's not as if the Gods told me to either.

The last time I visited this forum there wasn't any personal benefits to donating. I saw there's donation tiers but I suspect that they aren't of much value in my position. I may look into it further, but I'm in no rush to.

Also, there's an issue regarding transparency. Should the Joy of Satan be considered a nonprofit charity? If so, there's no measures of accountability that I'm aware of. If I dumped 10k USD on HP Hooded Cobra's lap, I might as well have thrown it into the ether. Where would the money go exactly, and could the Joy of Satan really have used it better than I could have? Even for a smaller amount such as 50 USD, the same questions apply. It's not as if my options are "donate to the Joy of Satan" or "hire a hooker and snort drugs off her butt"; more like "put liquid funds towards my own ideas that I have control over and an understanding of" or "give this money to someone I don't know in order work on things I'm not aware of".

I've promoted the Joy of Satan for years, I've recruited over a dozen people and I wrote a 100+ page tutorial based on my experiences and research on the general Occult. I've paid my dues a long time ago, just not in a financial capacity.

HS

Since we're talking about cash if you had an opportunity to have a car like a decent actually like a nice truck like a badass one or sell it and move and visit Ukraine visit old friends from ukrania? Or maybe Tampalipas.. where I'm from (border town for the European union.)(Spain, Italy, France
... And use my work skills to go work at Russia...and cross back once in a while?

 

[AFODO]

It is funny how this little question made a fully offtopic brawl.

I want to note that, firstly to advictorian, that HPHC organized these tiers because that if you donate you will get something back instantly and not only you invest into JoS future.

It is may seem like that it is a trick so that HPHC will get rich but since JoS is nonprofit organization, they can't do that.
If they do, don't you think the enemy working relentlessly to expose that? Well they can't because JoS don't uses the donated money to personal uses.

Lastly everything that is in these tiers, you can learn them from the demons if you are advanced enough. FOR. FREEEEEEEEEEEE. :mrgreen: