Question #4554: summoning demons while intoxicated?

[AskSatanOperator]

What happens when you summon a demon when you’re intoxicated? Does the Demon scare you away?

 

[SSinHeartandSoul]

Depends, It would be fine to get into contact with your GD when you are intoxicated. Trying this with any other God / Demon would be very rude though, its up to you to choose how you act in front of the Gods & Demons.

I do not know if the Demon in question would scare you away or not since i have never tried to contact them while intoxicated, if you would try to contact them unknowingly and out of ignorance i doubt they would lash out at you if you are a Spiritual Satanist.

 

[Rocca]

why on earth would you do that?
being intoxicated at the moment you need to be at your clearest state of mind!
also you better worry about enemy psychic attacks in such situation not the demon you're trying to communicate.

 

[Stormblood]

What's the point of this question? Do you think a higher being would be happy to see you like to partake in poisons? If anything, it only speak of a low quality soul. They won't show up. If it's actually needed they will send a thoughtform servitor or some lower being from their legion. Low quality souls are not very important.

 

[Hellenic SS]

Drugs, smoking, alcohol, etc, are all devices that reduce our consciousness. Therefore, they are all un-Satanic.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Imagine yourself as someone as wise as Aristotle and fit as an Olympic gymnast who is also 40+ years and a late teen to early 20s year old initiate calls you over for some advice on his life but he's drunk/high.

Would you really see this person in the right state to listen to your words? How do you expect anything you say to stick? How much would they even remember? Why wouldn't they rather call on you when sober?

There should be some humility and respect taken into consideration, even moreso, when contacting the Gods.

 

[SSinHeartandSoul]

While alcohol and the like can be very damaging and soul destroying, i think the reactions of my fellow brothers & sisters are a bit to lopsided. My experience with the gods has never been one where i was forced into a certain way of thinking, or risk the gods not showing up / sending ''lesser'' beings or thought-forms. Nor did they ever dictate to never indulge yourself in alcohol or the like.

If you are an SS and you find yourself in need of contacting your GD while you are intoxicated, go for it, they will be there!

 

[Stormblood]

While alcohol and the like can be very damaging and soul destroying, i think the reactions of my fellow brothers & sisters are a bit to lopsided. My experience with the gods has never been one where i was forced into a certain way of thinking, or risk the gods not showing up / sending ''lesser'' beings or thought-forms. Nor did they ever dictate to never indulge yourself in alcohol or the like.

If you are an SS and you find yourself in need of contacting your GD while you are intoxicated, go for it, they will be there!

There are Gods who actively encourage you to stop smoking and vaping. One example here is Baalzevulon, one of the highest Gods. Why would you think it's any different for those who indulge in any other recreational drugs such as alcohol and mj, to name a few?

The Gods are also not butlers and not everyone is equally important to them. There's ranks, hierarchy in everything. You don't expect a king to suddenly grant you audience and discuss the price of cheese with you, when you're calling his public phone line and you're in a filthy state, right?

Being intoxicated and calling on a God is the same as showing up at the King's audience hall covered in mud, having not washed yourself for months, and expecting they not only let you in but also let you see the King.

It's not going to happen. You learn respect first and gain the King's favour, then maybe you'll be lucky enough to be granted an audience with them and have a life-changing experience.

You can sure try to call on them. You will just reach a voicemail encouraging you to take care better care of yourself. And an "attendant" may come to you if there's a real need.

This is the damage excessive freedom has done nowadays. Everyone, no matter what the quality of your soul and level of contribution to your kin, thinks they're equally as important as people much higher than them in the hierarchy of life, and delude themselves they're actually meeting someone of importance when they make these summonings.

I suggest reread the sermon from HP Hooded Cobra about the various levels of experiences with the Gods.

And remember that, whether there is a law to be healthy or not, choosing to be unhealthy keeps your soul at a lower level in the hierarchy of life. "Arogya", as they call it in Sanskrit, is the pursuit of health, one of the 5 aims of life in Sanatana Dharma, which is our path.

As a final note, please remember to write "Gods" in upper case. It's not respectful to put it lower case on this forum.

 

[Recycler1337]

I support an extremely negative attitude towards alcohol (especially hard alcohol)

But if, say, you have a critical situation that requires help, no one will put you on the answering machine if you have drunk alcohol....

If for fun you get drunk to the state of cattle and disturb for the sake of your whim and the fun of the Gods, nothing good will come out of it, a bad idea.

 

[SSinHeartandSoul]

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You are very much misunderstanding my words, but that's alright this isn't the first time that happened and won't be the last, anyways this is what i said:

Trying this with any other God / Demon would be very rude though, its up to you to choose how you act in front of the Gods & Demons.

My experience with the gods has never been one where i was forced into a certain way of thinking

I never stated one should indulge in any of the above, you know just as well as me that we are here to advance ourselves. There are plenty of SS that are living on a lower plane of existence (for example new people) that are indulging or even over-indulging themselves in alcohol and the like (Even SS on a higher plane of existence may indulge themselves in alcohol once in a while). What message do you want to give them? don't bother contacting the gods because they are not there for you? That would be completely false, as most of us me included were in a very bad state before coming to Satan, its through working on yourself, with the assistance of the Gods, that we get to a higher plane of existence. Once you have advanced to a certain extent it becomes second nature (Maybe not to everyone) to do away with substances like alcohol and drugs.

When it comes to bad habits etc. The Gods do not force you to change, they gently push you into the right direction, they will be there to assist you through those changes, but you have to walk and do the work yourself. If you indulge yourself here and there in alcohol for whatever reason, the gods will still be there to assist you. Calling them butlers simply for asking help is a real stretch though, with that logic how many of us could have walked this path?

My experience with the Gods have always been pleasant, i have never been put on ''hold'' for any reason. The thing that you are most likely referring to when you talk about ''various levels of experiences with the Gods.'' is the amount of effort the gods put into you, as this is the same principle like ''you reap what you sow'', the gods will not put you down simply because you indulge yourself in alcohol, there are a lot more factors in play here.

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Also my deepest apologies for missing a capital G once.

 

[Onbael_]

There are Gods who actively encourage you to stop smoking and vaping. One example here is Baalzevulon, one of the highest Gods. Why would you think it's any different for those who indulge in any other recreational drugs such as alcohol and mj, to name a few?

The Gods are also not butlers and not everyone is equally important to them. There's ranks, hierarchy in everything. You don't expect a king to suddenly grant you audience and discuss the price of cheese with you, when you're calling his public phone line and you're in a filthy state, right?

Being intoxicated and calling on a God is the same as showing up at the King's audience hall covered in mud, having not washed yourself for months, and expecting they not only let you in but also let you see the King.

It's not going to happen. You learn respect first and gain the King's favour, then maybe you'll be lucky enough to be granted an audience with them and have a life-changing experience.

You can sure try to call on them. You will just reach a voicemail encouraging you to take care better care of yourself. And an "attendant" may come to you if there's a real need.

This is the damage excessive freedom has done nowadays. Everyone, no matter what the quality of your soul and level of contribution to your kin, thinks they're equally as important as people much higher than them in the hierarchy of life, and delude themselves they're actually meeting someone of importance when they make these summonings.

I suggest reread the sermon from HP Hooded Cobra about the various levels of experiences with the Gods.

And remember that, whether there is a law to be healthy or not, choosing to be unhealthy keeps your soul at a lower level in the hierarchy of life. "Arogya", as they call it in Sanskrit, is the pursuit of health, one of the 5 aims of life in Sanatana Dharma, which is our path.

As a final note, please remember to write "Gods" in upper case. It's not respectful to put it lower case on this forum.

If a translator is used, it may happen that the word 'Gods' can be translated with a lower case letter, even if it is capitalised in the original text.

If the post contains this word many times, it may happen that you forget to capitalise all the words.

It is equally encouraged and much appreciated to review the post and correct all these small mistakes.
Yes, they are mistakes.

 

[Stormblood]

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What I'm doing is called managing expectations and teaching manners when it comes to approaching the Gods. That's all.

 

[Rocca]

What I'm doing is called managing expectations and teaching manners when it comes to approaching the Gods. That's all.

relax some of the question may be coming from someone who's not advanced enough,
or a very young individual who thinks this's a game
we are here to help after all.
besides each Guardian have His/Her perfect way to discipline their owns!

Low quality souls are not very important.

i also think that disagree with the alchemy process! of turning the low to precious.

 

[serpentwalker666]

Typically you want to summon and talk to the Gods clear headed. They prefer this and don't like their people having indulged in harmful substances and then trying to communicate and summon them. It definitely is seen as a bit rude and dishonorable.

However, I do know from experience if one is struggling with alcoholism, they will come and try to guide you to better decisions. I remember when I was younger I was drinking heavily and partying a lot the Gods were very much involved in communicating with me, and guided me to stop drinking like a fool. This occurred even at times when I was very intoxicated and was very stern guidance and deep caring advice.

However, I want to advise you to think twice about drinking and then talking to Demons. Might be a good idea to cut this out all together if it is that much of a problem.