Question #4462: Satan

[AskSatanOperator]

why we are so sure about Satan being the first one who completes magnum opus? He is 500.000 years old but the universe is 13 billion years old and very huge. 13 billion years... what if there are other gods maybe more powerful, somewhere so far away from us?

 

[Phaethon]

We're not sure that He was the first person who completed the Magnum Opus or that He is the most powerful being and it doesn't matter anyway. We only look to Satan because He and His faction are the only ones who are willing to help humanity.

Satanism isn't a religion that looks to the most powerful being in order to blindly worship it like in Christianity. That's not how it works at all. The purpose of Satanism is to make humanity into Gods and only Satan and the Demons of Orion are the ones willing to help us with that, so we don't care what other beings do.

Also, the universe existed forever, it's not just 13 billion years old. The mainstream opinion on it and the big bang are lies.

 

[AFODO]

The truth about how old or powerful or anything is Satan is much more complicated.

 

[Fate Serpent]

Our beloved Father and his Demons are the only ones who wants humanity to shine so if there is another being that completed Magnum Opus before our beloved Father (I don't think there is one before him) you don't need to care that much for example think about a being who completed Magnum Opus way before than our Father Where is he ? Is he the one who helping us ? Why he isn't helping us to advance ? Is he created us ? No, but our Father did created us did give his knowledge to us did shown himself to us and continues to teach, help, and show his presence to us so the only thing you have to do is trusting our Father and follow his path and apply his teachings with pure heart the other things are not important at all because he is the all knowing and knows whats best for us.

I wish the best for you brother!

Hail Satan!
Hail Beelzebub!
Hail Astaroth!
Hail Azazel!

 

[Onbael_]

Having reached that level of advancement you become the incarnation of Satya, and what you were before no longer matters.

With this title you become "he who is, he who always was, and he who always will be", you become that which is manifested, that which is unmanifested, and that which can be manifested.

Satan is also the Kundalini Serpent, and he is the number 1 and 2 simultaneously.
Look at the meaning of the numbers to understand.

The fact that he was physically born 500000 years ago becomes completely irrelevant. Personally I think these 500000 years are just the period of human history on Earth.

I have no proof of this but just a feeling. The 'birth' of Satan in this case would be our creation.

For the rest the universe is ageless, it has always existed, to reach Satan's level is to create order out of chaos.
The Greek myths of creation and the war of the Titans explain this new created order in an allegorical way.

But personally I still have much to understand.

 

[WiseDragon]

why we are so sure about Satan being the first one who completes magnum opus? He is 500.000 years old but the universe is 13 billion years old and very huge. 13 billion years... what if there are other gods maybe more powerful, somewhere so far away from us?

Satan literally tells you that there are no other Gods but Him. This other "Gods above Satan" thing is nonsense. Also, Satan's Soul is much older than that. Satan is the Supreme God of this Universe. Time is a very complex concept in the Universe and in the higher levels/dimensions. It works in complex ways is all I can say. I go out of my body, I have a ton of experiences and I'm sure 5 hours went by, but then I go back to my body and I see that only 10 minutes passed. This is an example. These are all very complex subjects that only when one will be extremely advanced will fully understand. Asking these questions as a beginner will only create confusion.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

why we are so sure about Satan being the first one who completes magnum opus? He is 500.000 years old but the universe is 13 billion years old and very huge. 13 billion years... what if there are other gods maybe more powerful, somewhere so far away from us?

Someone out there is a billionaire, but a child still loves their father who provided, instead of the "billionaire" that was wasting it on blow or is just sitting there looking at an LCD panel all day.

The 500,000 years old figures, are just children explanations for the utmost basic level that is presented in some parts of the JoS, to just give a perspective. 1 year in the developmental cycle of the Gods, can equal a million in our own, based on our present scale of evolutionary process.

6 weeks on the level of the Gods, would equate millions of years versus monkey level based evolution. Time is analogous and a metric for input, not for development. There is not even a comparison to compare to. The 500,000 years of an incarnated deity, are not 500,000 years of weed, netflix and limited perceptions.

In human terms, one might now be incarnated and be 50 years old. However, as a spiritual entity, they might be around for 3000 years. Given reincarnation exists in our case, this creates a gap between it all, but the Gods do not have that gap, since they are above the evolutionary level of having to reincarnate.

A virus, might be existing somewhere, for even thousands of years. It can be hundreds of years old, but that does not mean it surpasses an evolving human on earth for the same time scale. The 80 years of a virus and the 80 year cycle for a human are drastically different.

500,000 years for a God should be compared to the highest AI technology that has increased it's existence exponentially over a figure they just give us for linear referrence, ie, 500,000 years old. Granted our present day AI can absorb knowledge that a billion years of monkey time, wouldn't be able to do in 1 day of human time, that should give some perspective.

Lastly, the universe has no beginning or end, it's just the present "saga" as we materially recognize it that has an X amount of time, which is a form of speculation on our behalf, based on our limited means of scientific observation. The theory of the age of the universe is based on present day observation of the material universe, the stars and the cycle of the objects in the heavens, what we can see either with a telescope or speculate based on what we observe.

Everything I write above will become clearer to everyone as they meditate and expand their consciousness. Eventually in that context 500,000 years can be beyond imagination past a point, so numbers become irrelevant.

Some Eastern texts like those in Hinduism, mention things that the Gods are like 126,000,000,000,000 years old in "years". These extreme numbers are to show the impossible to comprehend level of difference. These are to expand the mind and make us understand that there are many more things in existence than what we see.

A human in the present day development cycle on earth, could live for 2 million years and still be nothing compared to another level of scale of evolution. It's all about how this relative form of time is used.

 

[sinbad]

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I wish I could "retweet" this to my profile or something, lol.

Very enlightening, it reminds me of a baby using crayons vs. a master artist.

Even their 100 hours of practice there is a monumental difference in progress, rate of development, "exponential growth" etc., where at the highest levels of a craft such as Chess everyone is basically a God, so even a single speck of dust worth of a difference between no.1 and no.2 is enough of an advantage for one to obtain victory over the other.

Essentially a fundamental inequality of value attributed to time when it comes to the God's vs the Ape-ish level of humans currently.

 

[Pls Delete My Account]

Someone out there is a billionaire, but a child still loves their father who provided, instead of the "billionaire" that was wasting it on blow or is just sitting there looking at an LCD panel all day.

The 500,000 years old figures, are just children explanations for the utmost basic level that is presented in some parts of the JoS, to just give a perspective. 1 year in the developmental cycle of the Gods, can equal a million in our own, based on our present scale of evolutionary process.

6 weeks on the level of the Gods, would equate millions of years versus monkey level based evolution. Time is analogous and a metric for input, not for development. There is not even a comparison to compare to. The 500,000 years of an incarnated deity, are not 500,000 years of weed, netflix and limited perceptions.

In human terms, one might now be incarnated and be 50 years old. However, as a spiritual entity, they might be around for 3000 years. Given reincarnation exists in our case, this creates a gap between it all, but the Gods do not have that gap, since they are above the evolutionary level of having to reincarnate.

A virus, might be existing somewhere, for even thousands of years. It can be hundreds of years old, but that does not mean it surpasses an evolving human on earth for the same time scale. The 80 years of a virus and the 80 year cycle for a human are drastically different.

500,000 years for a God should be compared to the highest AI technology that has increased it's existence exponentially over a figure they just give us for linear referrence, ie, 500,000 years old. Granted our present day AI can absorb knowledge that a billion years of monkey time, wouldn't be able to do in 1 day of human time, that should give some perspective.

Lastly, the universe has no beginning or end, it's just the present "saga" as we materially recognize it that has an X amount of time, which is a form of speculation on our behalf, based on our limited means of scientific observation. The theory of the age of the universe is based on present day observation of the material universe, the stars and the cycle of the objects in the heavens, what we can see either with a telescope or speculate based on what we observe.

Everything I write above will become clearer to everyone as they meditate and expand their consciousness. Eventually in that context 500,000 years can be beyond imagination past a point, so numbers become irrelevant.

Some Eastern texts like those in Hinduism, mention things that the Gods are like 126,000,000,000,000 years old in "years". These extreme numbers are to show the impossible to comprehend level of difference. These are to expand the mind and make us understand that there are many more things in existence than what we see.

A human in the present day development cycle on earth, could live for 2 million years and still be nothing compared to another level of scale of evolution. It's all about how this relative form of time is used.

I read that Lady Lilith told Hps Maxine that time is not linear. Now I can understand a little bit what she meant, at least I can guess.

 

[sublimesatanist]

Lastly, the universe has no beginning or end, it's just the present "saga" as we materially recognize it that has an X amount of time, which is a form of speculation on our behalf, based on our limited means of scientific observation. The theory of the age of the universe is based on present day observation of the material universe, the stars and the cycle of the objects in the heavens, what we can see either with a telescope or speculate based on what we observe.

I've heard of something like this before somewhere; that there is no real past or future but only present moments at different spaces in the space-time continuum. Does this mean that time-travel is not possible? Ideas like this are confusing and fascinating to me... physics, the universe, etc.

 

[Dragonheart666]

I believe that Satan is god! And I think that he was the first. And that there was no other before him. He did create Us in his own likeness, and wants us to be God's and Godesses. And with all of his gods and demons out there helping us. I think it is an honor and a blessing to be a part of his lineage. I think Satan is more complicated than we think and we have lots to learn about him and his gods and demons and we have a lot to learn about ourselves as well.

 

[Henu the Great]

I've heard of something like this before somewhere; that there is no real past or future but only present moments at different spaces in the space-time continuum. Does this mean that time-travel is not possible? Ideas like this are confusing and fascinating to me... physics, the universe, etc.

In the physical world, you can not go back, only being present, which inevitably and infinitely moves forward. In astral world it is possible to have sight of past and of possible future outcomes.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

why we are so sure about Satan being the first one who completes magnum opus? He is 500.000 years old but the universe is 13 billion years old and very huge. 13 billion years... what if there are other gods maybe more powerful, somewhere so far away from us?

Another thing that may seem obvious but is actually relevant is the fact that Satan and our Gods are the entities that are most similar to us and also most likely to help us. Similar to how HPHC described the development cycle of another species, even if we found a "highly advanced" frog-like entity, how much could we learn from it? There could be some learning, but nothing like you can learn from the Gods.

The same applies even to humans and how we help each other. We may pray to Satan for money or something, but unless we create this ourselves, it must come from that which exists on this realm. From an energy perspective, it makes more sense for the Gods to influence our world to accomplish their goals, rather than try to directly synthesize things from "nothing". All of this has to do with the relevance of our material situation, I believe, which includes not just one's dimension, but also race.