Question #3767: How soon can one who is "talented" start doing squares?

[AskSatanOperator]

How soon can one who is "talented" start doing squares? Assuming there is very little negative karma and psychological inhibitions with a good degree of psychological maturity? And the natal chart pertains to natural concentration ability & imagination + strong occult powers.

 

[CrimsonMonarch]

I am not sure you need to be "talented" to do them. Things like natal chart, natural inclinations and natural occult powers will most likely influence the outcome of the working or how easy it is for you to do them, but they are not prerequisites to doing them. These tools are meant to make us grow, growing before doing them would kind of defeat their purpose. Find out how comfortable or how ready you feel to do them. For reference, as talentless as I consider myself when it comes to meditations, I'm doing a Mars Square, and I dedicated 4 months ago. You're the judge here, in the end.

 

[Henu the Great]

I am not sure you need to be "talented" to do them. Things like natal chart, natural inclinations and natural occult powers will most likely influence the outcome of the working or how easy it is for you to do them, but they are not prerequisites to doing them. These tools are meant to make us grow, growing before doing them would kind of defeat their purpose. Find out how comfortable or how ready you feel to do them. For reference, as talentless as I consider myself when it comes to meditations, I'm doing a Mars Square, and I dedicated 4 months ago. You're the judge here, in the end.

Ability to generate and handle energy are required for decent results. One can't except to get results with closed chakras, or with untrained mind, for example.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

If your goal is to use a square, this is coming from the wrong intentions and it will not end well.

The squares are a tool. Just like all of the other tools, this tool needs to be used responsibly and for the correct purposes.

The correct thing is to say what do you actually want to accomplish? What are you trying to do? The square may or may not be the correct tool, and there may be better ways to accomplish your goal by using a different tool.

 

[AristocraticDragon666]

How soon can one who is "talented" start doing squares? Assuming there is very little negative karma and psychological inhibitions with a good degree of psychological maturity? And the natal chart pertains to natural concentration ability & imagination + strong occult powers.

Planetary squares are used for specific purposes.
Of course, it is always better to do an affirmation when using the planetary square, but if you do not do it, the results will also be, but not necessarily the ones you need, because affirmation helps to direct energy to achieve the desired goal.

I am now actively performing planetary squares for specific purposes (using specific affirmations), including for the moon square.

Initially, I did not use any affirmations for the square of the moon, but two weeks later (when I had not yet used affirmations), my relationship with my mother improved dramatically, I want to say that they were not bad.
I didn't do anything, but my mother began to treat me very well, as she had never treated me before.

Also, the attitude of several girls around me at work has changed dramatically in a very positive way, before I was treated very negatively (one girl and her friend (girl)).

Also recently at work (as part of an agreement with our partners), we were treated to elite, craft ice cream for free, everyone was in line, but I was in a mess to stand and I decided to come later (when the crowd leaves), there was a lot of ice cream, there were mostly female colleagues in the queue and they saw my obvious irritation (I was very angry and annoyed that day) and that I was not in the mood, as a result, when the girls returned, ice cream was brought for me and offered to choose which one I like from all possible options (I am not friends with these girls), although I never ask anyone for such requests (although I can ask as others do), because I am guided by the principle: "If you want to do something, do it yourself!".

Of course, I chose my favorite ice cream, I was very pleased and I thanked these girls.

I also noticed that women whom I do not know began to pay attention to me, including turning around and staring at me when I walk down the street, although my appearance has not changed at all.

 

[AskSatanOperator]

I am not sure you need to be "talented" to do them. Things like natal chart, natural inclinations and natural occult powers will most likely influence the outcome of the working or how easy it is for you to do them, but they are not prerequisites to doing them. These tools are meant to make us grow, growing before doing them would kind of defeat their purpose. Find out how comfortable or how ready you feel to do them. For reference, as talentless as I consider myself when it comes to meditations, I'm doing a Mars Square, and I dedicated 4 months ago. You're the judge here, in the end.

Alright, that's all I needed to hear, thanks.

Ability to generate and handle energy are required for decent results. One can't except to get results with closed chakras, or with untrained mind, for example.

Is that all? In order to avoid unnecessary backlash?

If your goal is to use a square, this is coming from the wrong intentions and it will not end well.

The squares are a tool. Just like all of the other tools, this tool needs to be used responsibly and for the correct purposes.

The correct thing is to say what do you actually want to accomplish? What are you trying to do? The square may or may not be the correct tool, and there may be better ways to accomplish your goal by using a different tool.

This is worthless semantics. You don't know anything about me, and so you're just grasping at straws here. It would make sense if I provided information pertaining to an idiotic goal, but I did no such thing.

I want to advance my soul and remove hindrances towards my physical, spiritual and psychological development as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Some very eager lecturers on this forum.
I guess I need an autobiography as necessary context to ask a legitimate question now or something?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You don't believe yourself to be ready to do a square, or else you wouldn't be asking. But you are certain that a square is the correct way to solve the problem?

Actually completing a square is far easier than being able to properly diagnose when a square is the correct thing to do. Anybody is able to read the mantra a set number of times per day, this takes no skill or knowledge to follow those simple instructions. What does take knowledge and experience to do is knowing what the best action is to accomplish a goal.

I've seen many times people make their problems worse by doing the wrong thing when they thought it was doing the right thing. This is something to be careful about.

 

[Henu the Great]

Is that all? In order to avoid unnecessary backlash?

No, I just brought some examples up which is why I used the wording for example at the end of the sentence.

To avoid backlash one has to do more things, and even then in some cases, it is not realistic to completely avoid backlashes. When practitioner does certain things, such as paving the way with a freeing of the soul working beforehand they can make progressing easier, but I would not want to say one would be able to completely avoid this aspect as that would lead to unrealistic expectations. If anything, these backlashes will happen (to varying degrees), but after them, it will be smooth sailing. We must be able to handle such events might they occur in our lives.

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Inspiring!

 

[AskSatanOperator]

No, I just brought some examples up which is why I used the wording for example at the end of the sentence.

To avoid backlash one has to do more things, and even then in some cases, it is not realistic to completely avoid backlashes. When practitioner does certain things, such as paving the way with a freeing of the soul working beforehand they can make progressing easier, but I would not want to say one would be able to completely avoid this aspect as that would lead to unrealistic expectations. If anything, these backlashes will happen (to varying degrees), but after them, it will be smooth sailing. We must be able to handle such events might they occur in our lives.


Inspiring!

Sorry, I was referring to the first sentence, "the ability to generate and handle energy are required for decent results".

The backlash is mostly just the resurfacing of psychological filth, correct? So, I'm assuming it won't apply as much to my situation?

Planetary squares are used for specific purposes.
Of course, it is always better to do an affirmation when using the planetary square, but if you do not do it, the results will also be, but not necessarily the ones you need, because affirmation helps to direct energy to achieve the desired goal.

I am now actively performing planetary squares for specific purposes (using specific affirmations), including for the moon square.

Initially, I did not use any affirmations for the square of the moon, but two weeks later (when I had not yet used affirmations), my relationship with my mother improved dramatically, I want to say that they were not bad.
I didn't do anything, but my mother began to treat me very well, as she had never treated me before.

Also, the attitude of several girls around me at work has changed dramatically in a very positive way, before I was treated very negatively (one girl and her friend (girl)).

Also recently at work (as part of an agreement with our partners), we were treated to elite, craft ice cream for free, everyone was in line, but I was in a mess to stand and I decided to come later (when the crowd leaves), there was a lot of ice cream, there were mostly female colleagues in the queue and they saw my obvious irritation (I was very angry and annoyed that day) and that I was not in the mood, as a result, when the girls returned, ice cream was brought for me and offered to choose which one I like from all possible options (I am not friends with these girls), although I never ask anyone for such requests (although I can ask as others do), because I am guided by the principle: "If you want to do something, do it yourself!".

Of course, I chose my favorite ice cream, I was very pleased and I thanked these girls.

I also noticed that women whom I do not know began to pay attention to me, including turning around and staring at me when I walk down the street, although my appearance has not changed at all.

Congratulations, brother! Pretty cool story.

 

[AskSatanOperator]

You don't believe yourself to be ready to do a square, or else you wouldn't be asking. But you are certain that a square is the correct way to solve the problem?

Actually completing a square is far easier than being able to properly diagnose when a square is the correct thing to do. Anybody is able to read the mantra a set number of times per day, this takes no skill or knowledge to follow those simple instructions. What does take knowledge and experience to do is knowing what the best action is to accomplish a goal.

I've seen many times people make their problems worse by doing the wrong thing when they thought it was doing the right thing. This is something to be careful about.

I don't know why people struggle to provide PURE INFORMATION without including their unwarranted assumptions. Not everyone who uses the Anon-Operator is a 90 IQ down syndrome patient.

I do "believe myself to be ready", which is why I am actually asking. To make sure I am correct in my judgement. And I've already taken into consideration everything you've said here.

Stop projecting. Be useful and answer the question properly, or just ignore it instead of being condescending.

 

[Henu the Great]

The backlash is mostly just the resurfacing of psychological filth, correct? So, I'm assuming it won't apply as much to my situation?

It is related to the removal of negative karmic imprints. During this process, which is not centered around a single issue, events relating to resurfacing can happen. I would not assume things around this subject and play it safe.

 

[AskSatanOperator]

It is related to the removal of negative karmic imprints. During this process, which is not centered around a single issue, events relating to resurfacing can happen. I would not assume things around this subject and play it safe.

Fair enough, but by the sounds of most people's experience it's just minor stuff that I could easily brush off and continue. I've gotten "used to" psychic attacks since I was a child, and I barely give a shit now when I have negative experiences like this. It just feels, at most, mildly disturbing... But I'm just trying to find out if anyone can give me info that would suggest otherwise; whether it can have actually serious and lasting consequences.

 

[AskSatanOperator]

It is related to the removal of negative karmic imprints. During this process, which is not centered around a single issue, events relating to resurfacing can happen. I would not assume things around this subject and play it safe.

So I can NEVER do Sun squares? Even if I remove all negative karma?

What should I do instead then? My Venus is also in its sign of fall...

I was thinking maybe a Freeing the Soul towards my self-image and then afterwards a Mars square, and/or self-hypnosis?

How can I get a good astrologist to take a look at my chart and tell me what type of squares are a good/bad idea? Not a full analysis, but just this one thing.

 

[Henu the Great]

All of what I mentioned is because it is better to know what you are doing and prepare to do something that is not advisable to do at the beginning than to do it in the beginning. In my experience, the results are more favorable and there would be less confusion and other problems occurring. But ultimately you are free to do whatever you want whenever you want. And I said nothing about never being able to do squares. Just saying that one should prepare oneself.