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Question #3036: What is you people opinion on suicide

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Since life keeps kicking me more and more down and has taken all good things away from me ,what is even the point of living
 
AskSatanOperator said:
Since life keeps kicking me more and more down and has taken all good things away from me ,what is even the point of living
You are not facing a brick wall. You are not imprisoned, perhaps tortured, and facing a certain death. A certain death includes so traumatizing experience that choosing a slightly less traumatizing (yet, still traumatizing!) experience of suicide becomes a viable option.

Make no mistake. You are not going to escape the hardship by killing yourself. Even in the best-case scenario, you need to work through whatever you are now avoiding. And worst case... You would add more workload through the trauma of self-inflicted death. So really, it is very counterproductive to even contemplate suicide given your current stance of avoidance of work on your soul as you would need to work even more then! A suicide would only delay the inevitable. You are here and now for a purpose! Use it!!!

You are in luck as the tools for betterment are provided by JoS. As an extension, this forum contains a trove of useful information, as well. The responsibility lies on your shoulders to make something out of this. No one said it was going to be easy. But remember, the alternative is even harder.


AskSatanOperator said:
The best way to commit suicide
You are not going to find that here.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
It is not an infrequent phenomenon that many people come to Satan to be saved from disastrous circumstances related to the beliefs, empty faith in, and imposed mental problems by the enemy. This relationship with these bad entities and people wallowing in ignorance and lack of any spiritual understanding, creates a situation where life can become really miserable, to the point one is also unable to escape from this misery, and it just keeps stacking up. This is not everyone of course, but many people are in this particular situation.

Everyone in this world goes, and will go hard times, despite of their level of power, great fortune, or spiritual power or any other form of power involved. To give one example here, everyone in this world thinks that money is the solution to all problems, and indeed, money solves a lot of problems, if not extremely many problems, but not all problems. There are endless amounts of other problems which especially have deeper roots and are not solvable by money.

To name one example one Gentile European billionaire, I believe from Norway, his children went into vacation at Sri Lanka, and they 'happened' to be in the blast radius that was created by the Jews through the "ISIS" terrorists. We all know that the jews created this organization but that is besides the point. The man lost three of his four children in the blast. As it should be understood from such events, "money" is not the universal solution to all problems, and can also create further problems if mismanaged. He can't pay anyone to bring him his children back, and this is a tragedy.

This is an example of the brutality of life and how everything cannot be just 'solved' by merely a single tool such as money, wealth, fame, or other things. Definitely, every tool helps. However Gentiles are only told that everything is solely a financial problem, in which many cases it's not. Many people have solved this problem and they are plagued by an array of other problems, and some of which many of you here who are "poor blokes" may not even experience. These problems can be mental, emotional, faith based, loneliness, depression, and all sorts of other woes.

To put this very simply, we need our Gods in our life, and in a sense, they also enjoy our attention and our friendship. We are their students, and we grow through their teaching. In the same way one who goes into a school and simply fails or gets very low grades, but is in this school for a reason, so do people here have to understand that underperformance or negative circumstances, can be turned around.

However, I never sugar coat anything personally and you have to know, the more things are against you, and the more things out of control, the more effort you will have to put into them, and nothing will come for free. Of course many people may choose the lazy way out and to consider that there is no solution to their problems, but everyone knows this is a lie. While perfection may be utopian and more of a 'light in the dark' to follow, life can become very good, especially if one puts their devotion into fixing themselves.

Another thing I wanted to bring to everyone's attention is that our "Life", when we are a Satanist, is a life with meaning. Very deep and profound meaning. Meaning that other people will never have, and also it's a life of prospects, where one can advance, evolve, and fix things that others may never have the chance to fix. The opportunities that lay in front of loyal and practising Satanists, both to relate themselves to our Great Gods, and to fix their own soul until they seize and master it, are extreme. To not get very sob, yes, the Gods love us, and also, the Gods invest on us their time, attention, energy, and help.

There are many people in this life who are beaten down and I understand people taking the way out with suicide, but most of the time, people haven't wronged anyone else but themselves. Most people who contemplate about suicide only do so about "Themselves" and lack of perceived expectations or experience into life. The perception is stuck in a very individualistic and egotistic mode.

If one expands past this thought, and they understand themselves as a living being that also belongs in a communion with the Gods, our people, our race, our mission in general, then one should understand that one is obligated to make the best use of life possible about themselves. And a chain cannot last if pieces choose to cut. However a chain becomes stronger when each piece of it helps the piece next to it with support, and this is why community is here. You don't even have to give a real name here, and you can explain to other brothers and sisters what is very wrong with your life, and they can help you...

...Provided you also want to help yourself.

When one becomes a Satanist, one is taken and lifted from the literal spiritual, mental, and in many cases physical swamp. If the swamp is not physical, then it's most of the times guaranteed to be a swamp in the two other levels. Even if one is really good and clear, they still have a lot of climbing to do.

People frequently come and say that they believe 'suicide' will solve anything. On inspection, for a person to be lead to the situation to be confronted with the choice of suicide, there is either fear, or mass problems, or both. If one has gotten 50 years in prison, or if one is absolutely on a situation where they are 200% stuck, maybe suicide can be a viable option. In Satanism, one will not get punished further as in Christianity if they "Suicide", but that doesn't mean this doesn't come coupled by a natural problem which is related to suicide.

Lack of understanding of spiritual laws makes many think that "suicide" will solve their problems and put them on a blank state. But that is absolutely wrong. By the laws of the universe such as the laws of the invisible light, beyond our basic perception, we have our mental, spiritual body. This unit just dislocates from the body after death. In this case, you will be the same as you are today, but on another 'dimension'. Many people upon death or when close to death they experience this 'drawing out' of the body, and those who suicide, just see their dead body there. And there comes the greatest regret from an action one cannot go back to.

However, when this is done, there is no going back, and one has to stay in the astral, potentially suffer or be lost, and cause further damnation to come unto themselves. This has nothing to do with external punishment, it's that one's constitution, even in astral form, will draw them to sources of negativity, self wallowing, and many ugly things. In many cases it can take decades until the planetary alignments, viable bodies, and so forth, become available, for one to reincarnate. One will be therefore stuck in this wallowing state which increases itself, and then one will reincarnate, and his life will merely "replay" over for better or for worse due to karmic flaws inherent in his spirit. Then, one may be locked in a situation where they again find themselves in the same loop.

To give a rough estimate of how long the above can take, it can be from any to 10, to 25 to 70 years, to a century. I know this may sound like too much, but yes, sometimes, conditions for reincarnation may take that long, and this is highly dependable on circumstances. The loop of these events in itself can last potentially hundreds of years throughout reincarnations. Now this is one path one can take with suicide. It's a really wasting process. Plus, you learn nothing from it at all. If anything it brings the soul closer to death. And despite of people who brush this off, nobody really wants 'death' for themselves in a full sense of the word.

One has to remember that keeping yourself alive is not only for your own sake, but also for the sake of higher goals and objectives that are shared with others. It's really disgraceful to abandon post when there are no real missiles coming in. You got to love yourself and your life, and if you do not love yourself, consider then others who are tied to you.

Most problems that people have can be solved within a span of 2 or 3 years, and we are talking to a very considerable extent. This includes lack of employment, job problems, lack of school or teaching experience, and all sorts of problems which most of the time get people under. During this time of 2 to 3 years, one can do workings to free the soul and proceed with these things.If you take in perspective the years it leads to get to total failure, 2-3 years of effort to advance is nothing. Then, you gain momentum and you can advance more and more. Think of this paralleled to meditation in a sense.

In extremely stubborn cases, these may need to be repeated for years, while also physical effort is maintained. The trick here is however that most people get depressed and more depressed by lack of growth, and this growth if it happens is quite motivational. At the end of this, one's confidence will be far more bolstered in their ability to survive, and potentially under any circumstances. Even if you believe there is no way out of most problems, there definitely is, but for some of these you will need to consult your GD (you do not need to hear them, just open your head up to the possibility of things being better and do your part to seek solutions).

The fundamental thing however that will keep your life in place is this: To have a hold of your mind, your thoughts, and your soul energies. Through this beginning you can achieve and correct 99% of problems that go on your way, merely through self realization and self control. If one attains this, then most problems you will be able to also solve if you put your mind to them. Most people also do not suffer so much from tragic external circumstances, just hard circumstances which have a very powerful effect on them because they do not silence their mind. This allows the growth of fear and insecurity. You are capable of solving your problems, and you can do it. What is necessary first is to set yourself in order.

Think of this like being very drunk and drinking some very powerful coffee, confusion to a wake up call. When you are in the mode of drunkenness, it may appear as if your life it gone and that you can only drink more. Drunkenness here can be made parallel to confusion. The more confusion goes, the more able you will be to lay down your plans and contain yourself in order to move forward. This is your black coffee here.

Satan values people who have resolve, and if you show this resolve, or at least try to summon it, he will help you. People who evoke the mercy of others as a habit, only to parasitize, or ask for a helping hand to draw others down, in the satisfaction of the rising of misery, are detestable.

Lastly, do not forget that the community is here to help with problems and support one another. We are a family for a very deep reason. Consult those who have move knowledge here in the forums, and those of you who are advancing and have moved past problems, turn back and extend your hand as the hand of the Gods was extended to you. This way everyone rises and we are empowering ourselves and our shared existence.

it's normal for sheep to endlessly cry, never fix anything, pointlessly wallow in the misery of their own choice to be sheep.

But as far as we are concerned, we can only get up, pack up as wolves and keep going. Your life can be improved, be in knowledge of that, and work towards this end. You have to initiate this by moving and getting up first and foremost. And keeping on the good track despite worry of failures.

And remember: You are a Satanist . One must keep this tightly in their mind. Satan helps his own.

-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
AskSatanOperator said:
What do the Gods think about Satanists who are just fucked by fate and doomed astrologically? Are they left to die and to never advance? What if an SS has such a bad Birth Chart that they aren't able to escape or fix their fate or energies of their soul? What if life is so brutal to them that they just give up and suicide? Is there any hope for these types?

There is maximum hope for this type of people as the better you are at dealing with a harder hand, the stronger you will be compared to anyone else.

There is no chart in this world that totally disallows evolution. You can thwart anything "fate" has given you if you advance spiritually as the whole point of everyone is to rise above these influences. A Spiritual Satanist has many things in his arsenal to use.

There is no "better" or "perfect" chart in anyway, shape or form, and everyone has brutalizer aspects and bad aspects, if not natally, then through transits.

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https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=417329#p417329

One must also trust in their journey: We are here to stop being automatons of fate and slaves, and to eventually learn through the application of the divine knowledge to become masterful of ourselves to the extent that it is possible.

That's the study and school of what we call "life". If one wasn't to learn from this, one wouldn't be here, let alone "return" again and again through reincarnation.

As far as life is concerned, we are all students until we move on. The reason one must never give up is that the Spiritual Satanist is the person who lends an ear to listen to life, and therefore, the more one tries to listen, eventually they will understand the music one needs to dance to in order to navigate their life in an ever advancing way.

Suicide, giving up, blowing one's self, victimhood status, perpetual fear, and all of these negative things, ought to be for the people who deny listening.

These are things for outsiders and those who do not understand the fundamental microcosmic and macrocosmic connection. For those who know, then you know, that you can fix your environment and your inner self, and transform.

They have nobody to go to, but you do, the Gods and the community. They have no knowledge, but you do, the JoS knowledge. They have no inner resolve, but you do, because you have your soul. One could go on and on.

NONE OF THIS IS FOR GRANTED! ITS A VERY, VERY RARE BLESSING! DO NOT FORGET THIS! MAKE USE OF THIS!

To any Satanist, these "giving up" types of events should constitute transient changes where one pleasantly goes from being ignorant of life and overcoming it, to attaining the light of Lucifer and highlighting their own eternal path in which one walks.
 
"Spiritual Satanism: On Suicide":
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=19218

"Why You Must Never Give Up In Life As A Spiritual Satanist":
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=417329#p417329

"For Those Considering Suicide - You Matter - You Are Never Alone, Never!":
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=68155
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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