Question #2940: Is visiting satanic joy without a VPN dangerous?

[AskSatanOperator]

Sometimes I meet people who do not use the internet safely and therefore I am afraid to tell them about the joy of Satan, tell me they will not be detected by the special services?

 

[AFODO]

They will be and just a VPN is not enough. The hardware, the Operating System, the browser, the internet configuration, the website you are visiting, the applications that are running (or is running a task) these are all matters.

I actually never thought about how this should be done and I don't think there is a reasonably safe solution. The only thing is to show it on your device, or before anything, make them use secure things.

Make them use Linux, and from there, the Linux community will make him use secure things anyways. A linux with chromium with a riseup vpn is good enough.

 

[Satanic Avenger 666]

I have been reading the JoS site for more than 15 years and never used a VPN. I have given the JoS site to others who have no idea what a VPN is. I haven't had anything bad happen to me in all those years, nor did I hear anything bad from others.

It all depends on which country you live. AFAIK, the JoS site isn't illegal in any country. The countries or places (like schools or libraries) that don't allow the JoS site simply censor it and you will not be able to access it without a VPN.

There are people in Australia who got a notice from their ISP when they were caught torrenting movies, but I've never heard of anyone getting a similar notice if they simply visited the JoS. Unless they change something, it's safe for now.

 

[Henu the Great]

The best solution is to blend into the masses. In the cases where there are government-backed firewalls such as in China and Iran a TOR bridge is the best or one of the best ways to get around, but other than that I would like to point out that if you use for example VPN + TOR to conceal your data then you will stick out like a sore thumb and be an actual target much, much more easily for eavesdropping.

Some level of obfuscation of data, such as VPN only, or TOR only, plus aura of protection goes a long way.

Lastly, to answer the question, no, unless you are in a Muslim country, or perhaps in China or something along the lines. In which case using TOR is a pretty good option. I would not use any VPN in such countries as those would most likely be compromised much easier than in other cases, and would also attract too much attention.

When you use TOR it is also a good practice to set up your own TOR relay to increase the overall integrity of the network. Governments and other large-scale players are also in the game making massive efforts to deanonymize traffic with a large amount of relays. There have been instances where the above efforts have been successful. But practical dangers to someone like us browsing JoS are small.

 

[Xenophon]

The best solution is to blend into the masses. In the cases where there are government-backed firewalls such as in China and Iran a TOR bridge is the best or one of the best ways to get around, but other than that I would like to point out that if you use for example VPN + TOR to conceal your data then you will stick out like a sore thumb and be an actual target much, much more easily for eavesdropping.

Some level of obfuscation of data, such as VPN only, or TOR only, plus aura of protection goes a long way.

Lastly, to answer the question, no, unless you are in a Muslim country, or perhaps in China or something along the lines. In which case using TOR is a pretty good option. I would not use any VPN in such countries as those would most likely be compromised much easier than in other cases, and would also attract too much attention.

When you use TOR it is also a good practice to set up your own TOR relay to increase the overall integrity of the network. Governments and other large-scale players are also in the game making massive efforts to deanonymize traffic with a large amount of relays. There have been instances where the above efforts have been successful. But practical dangers to someone like us browsing JoS are small.

In China, Joy of Satan is not firewalled. I'm sitting there typing this now. If the authorities are interested, they doubtless can know what I'm doing. Apparently they don't worry much about Satanism. (Yet.) The last time I tried to download Tor, though, it was firewalled.

 

[Xenophon]

The best solution is to blend into the masses. In the cases where there are government-backed firewalls such as in China and Iran a TOR bridge is the best or one of the best ways to get around, but other than that I would like to point out that if you use for example VPN + TOR to conceal your data then you will stick out like a sore thumb and be an actual target much, much more easily for eavesdropping.

Some level of obfuscation of data, such as VPN only, or TOR only, plus aura of protection goes a long way.

Lastly, to answer the question, no, unless you are in a Muslim country, or perhaps in China or something along the lines. In which case using TOR is a pretty good option. I would not use any VPN in such countries as those would most likely be compromised much easier than in other cases, and would also attract too much attention.

When you use TOR it is also a good practice to set up your own TOR relay to increase the overall integrity of the network. Governments and other large-scale players are also in the game making massive efforts to deanonymize traffic with a large amount of relays. There have been instances where the above efforts have been successful. But practical dangers to someone like us browsing JoS are small.

The best solution is to blend into the masses. In the cases where there are government-backed firewalls such as in China and Iran a TOR bridge is the best or one of the best ways to get around, but other than that I would like to point out that if you use for example VPN + TOR to conceal your data then you will stick out like a sore thumb and be an actual target much, much more easily for eavesdropping.

Some level of obfuscation of data, such as VPN only, or TOR only, plus aura of protection goes a long way.

Lastly, to answer the question, no, unless you are in a Muslim country, or perhaps in China or something along the lines. In which case using TOR is a pretty good option. I would not use any VPN in such countries as those would most likely be compromised much easier than in other cases, and would also attract too much attention.

When you use TOR it is also a good practice to set up your own TOR relay to increase the overall integrity of the network. Governments and other large-scale players are also in the game making massive efforts to deanonymize traffic with a large amount of relays. There have been instances where the above efforts have been successful. But practical dangers to someone like us browsing JoS are small.

Update: I just successfully downloaded Tor. Thanks for the suggestion. I had forgotten the thing even existed, it being unavailable before.

 

[satanachia]

The best solution is to blend into the masses. In the cases where there are government-backed firewalls such as in China and Iran a TOR bridge is the best or one of the best ways to get around, but other than that I would like to point out that if you use for example VPN + TOR to conceal your data then you will stick out like a sore thumb and be an actual target much, much more easily for eavesdropping.

Some level of obfuscation of data, such as VPN only, or TOR only, plus aura of protection goes a long way.

Lastly, to answer the question, no, unless you are in a Muslim country, or perhaps in China or something along the lines. In which case using TOR is a pretty good option. I would not use any VPN in such countries as those would most likely be compromised much easier than in other cases, and would also attract too much attention.

When you use TOR it is also a good practice to set up your own TOR relay to increase the overall integrity of the network. Governments and other large-scale players are also in the game making massive efforts to deanonymize traffic with a large amount of relays. There have been instances where the above efforts have been successful. But practical dangers to someone like us browsing JoS are small.

I browse Jos in normal browser ..what is the big deal in that though?

 

[AFODO]

When you use TOR it is also a good practice to set up your own TOR relay to increase the overall integrity of the network. Governments and other large-scale players are also in the game making massive efforts to de-anonymise traffic with a large amount of relays. There have been instances where the above efforts have been successful. But practical dangers to someone like us browsing JoS are small.

Because of this, it is worth to use I2P insted. It's much less popular, and as I know it had no such problems.

I browse Jos in normal browser ..what is the big deal in that though?

The big deal is that Jews hate us, and they do everything to stop us.

Now, do you think it would be safe to go to israel, and shout out loud that you are an SS, and than tell your birthday, with your adress? because it has no much difference, they can know this all about you with a few clicks.

It is very dangerous especially for members who actually doing something here, like advancing our cause.

If they would have a picture of HPHC, all rabbis and above would curse him weekly if not daily. That would be hard to conquer.

 

[Henu the Great]

I browse Jos in normal browser ..what is the big deal in that though?

Maybe there is no big deal at all. But you do leave open traces of your online behavior for all to see. This could potentially lead to "big deal", as you put it.

 

[satanachia]

When you use TOR it is also a good practice to set up your own TOR relay to increase the overall integrity of the network. Governments and other large-scale players are also in the game making massive efforts to de-anonymise traffic with a large amount of relays. There have been instances where the above efforts have been successful. But practical dangers to someone like us browsing JoS are small.

Because of this, it is worth to use I2P insted. It's much less popular, and as I know it had no such problems.

I browse Jos in normal browser ..what is the big deal in that though?

The big deal is that Jews hate us, and they do everything to stop us.

Now, do you think it would be safe to go to israel, and shout out loud that you are an SS, and than tell your birthday, with your adress? because it has no much difference, they can know this all about you with a few clicks.

It is very dangerous especially for members who actually doing something here, like advancing our cause.

If they would have a picture of HPHC, all rabbis and above would curse him weekly if not daily. That would be hard to conquer.

I really do not understand,why would I even go to Israel and shout out my real name and my Dob to them ..I have been using only normal Google browser for JOS ...what issue u think I may face ???I do not live in any communist country where people will catch for me seeing JOS

 

[BrightSpace666]

Sometimes I meet people who do not use the internet safely and therefore I am afraid to tell them about the joy of Satan, tell me they will not be detected by the special services?

Using one VPN [or more] is important not only for browsing JoS sites, but also for everyday, basic browsing [for example, if you just want to read something]. It's matter that which VPN you choose - RiseupVPN has the most transparent policies and is highly encrypted and security-oriented.

Mullvad is similar, but it's paid. ProtonVPN is better used through WireGuard or OpenVPN if you choose this. Changing your DNS address is also essential, because if you use a VPN but your DNS address is the same, you are not safe from your ISP.

Since DNS addresses are generated by default by your ISP in [/etc/resolv.conf], you will know exactly what pages you are visiting. Kundalini-Tool includes Dns-Changer, so it is very important that you use it.

WebRTC, if not disabled, will open the door to your real IP address, even if you are using a VPN. Your IP address can be read if WebRTC is not disabled. You can change this in about:config in Firefox-based browsers. In Chromium-based browsers, you can change it with extensions like WebRTC Leak Shield.

Also disable cookies, JavaScript globally for everyday web browsing, as they can track you. JavaScript is an attack surface on sites, plus they can track you. If a site uses JavaScript, that site is crap. There must be an important reason for a page to use JS.

You don't even need JavaScript for a forum because you can write code in safe PHP [experience].

It's not enough to have a secure Linux distribution, VPN and Tor at the same time. The Tor browser without configuration adds nothing to security except anonymity. The right browser choice, configuration and accessories are essential.

Without add-ons like uMatrix, Adnauseam [Adnauseam includes uBlock Origin], Decentraleyes, ClearURL's and User-Agent Switcher I would never go online. You can track web traffic if you don't disable cookies, JS, jewgle/jewcrosoft/cockflare sites.

One bad thing about JavaScript is that you don't know what it's doing in the background. Because [unless it's in public source] you can't read the code, so you have no idea what it's doing. Also, Xhr is tied to JavaScript, which is also bad.

While using uMatrix, watch a video on jewtube and see how many unsolicited requests uMatrix makes in a single video. If you want to be sure, choose a proper Linux distribution, run the whole system through Tor [Kundalini-Tool - Torify], connect to the Tor browser, configure, add extensions.

Or better yet, while using Torify, you can start a Whonix in VirtualBox and do your thing through that.

 

[AFODO]

I really do not understand,why would I even go to Israel and shout out my real name and my Dob to them ..I have been using only normal Google browser for JOS ...what issue u think I may face ???I do not live in any communist country where people will catch for me seeing JOS

It doesn't even matter if you are a Satanist or not, nobody should ever use these big companies services. First and foremost, you are giving all your data to the Jews, free, so that they can sell it. You are literally advancing the Jewish cause.

Nobody should use these services because they are aiming towards a Jewish cyberpunk dystopia.

If that's not enough, they know that you are a Satanist and can easily target you with their curses or any corruptness. For example they might rise your internet fee for no reason, or whatever, this is just an example.

You don't have to live in a communist country.

 

[satanachia]

I really do not understand,why would I even go to Israel and shout out my real name and my Dob to them ..I have been using only normal Google browser for JOS ...what issue u think I may face ???I do not live in any communist country where people will catch for me seeing JOS

It doesn't even matter if you are a Satanist or not, nobody should ever use these big companies services. First and foremost, you are giving all your data to the Jews, free, so that they can sell it. You are literally advancing the Jewish cause.

Nobody should use these services because they are aiming towards a Jewish cyberpunk dystopia.

If that's not enough, they know that you are a Satanist and can easily target you with their curses or any corruptness. For example they might rise your internet fee for no reason, or whatever, this is just an example.

You don't have to live in a communist country.

So now what should I do and what do you mean by cyber punk dystopia ??what exactly does this term mean ??

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

If we placed limits on the people who can view the site based on these concerns, we wouldn't be able to grow properly. This situation with internet security is unfortunate, but has to be balanced with other concerns. At the end of the day, it is their personal responsibility to take protective steps, not yours.

Imagining the future, would any advertisements towards JoS also come with a label that says "Please use a VPN"? If this causes people to avoid the site, then which fate is worse: Viewing JoS with possible detection, or never viewing JoS, but being "safe"?

Remember that someone who properly reads and integrates JoS material also gains access to the AOP, protection from the Gods, and so on. So it is a tradeoff that is still worthwhile.

 

[Fuchs]

I really do not understand,why would I even go to Israel and shout out my real name and my Dob to them ..I have been using only normal Google browser for JOS ...what issue u think I may face ???I do not live in any communist country where people will catch for me seeing JOS

It doesn't even matter if you are a Satanist or not, nobody should ever use these big companies services. First and foremost, you are giving all your data to the Jews, free, so that they can sell it. You are literally advancing the Jewish cause.

Nobody should use these services because they are aiming towards a Jewish cyberpunk dystopia.

If that's not enough, they know that you are a Satanist and can easily target you with their curses or any corruptness. For example they might rise your internet fee for no reason, or whatever, this is just an example.

You don't have to live in a communist country.

So now what should I do and what do you mean by cyber punk dystopia ??what exactly does this term mean ??

Just continue advancing/meditating as best as possibel, when you have free time you can look into i-net safety. Every lost day, is as long you don´t live in a country you could go to jail or be killed for visiting not worth to not visit and meditating.

About giving it to friends, be sure you don´t regret sharing this information. Like they betray you somehow.

 

[AFODO]

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Since they have no idea, and they had no chance to even know about it, of what dangers they are put to, I would feel like that it is my responsibility.

I did not used any protection in the beginning, and unfortunately, I did got mislead. Maybe it does not have to do anything with that, but other negative things happened too. I don't know how all things would have happened if I would have used protection, and I will probably never know, but anyways, I know unfortunate things happen naturally.

I would not advertise the JoS by putting everything beside it what that they should use, but I would be more careful with my relatives or friends. Hopefully more and more people will use sever services and this won't be a problem. Until that, Newcomers do take the risk without them knowing it.

I would make a cyber security section on the JoS main, and put it on the top, or include in the "Welcome" section.